Hey Folks, Just wondering if there are any other G2 users out there that have experienced this. For some time, I haven't been able to get my phone charges fully, and by fully, I mean something close to the reported norm of 97%-100%.
The hightest I got my phone was to 81% and that with a new battery, recalibration, and bump charging. In fact, I've had the phone powered off over night and upon restarting it, it was at 71%.
I've watched logcat to see if anything could be an issue there, I've installed ZDBox, (cool app, btw), and Battery Dr. The good news, is that after uninstalling a few apps and widgets, my battery life seems prolonged, (relatively speaking).
I'm running CM-7.1.0-RC1, 2.6.32.41-cyangenmod pershoot, and using the 26.06.2.27_M radio.
Since I couldn't get a full charge with it powered off, I'm thinking it might be a hardware issue or maybe the radio since so I might try 26.08.04.30 radio. Googling other forums, people were able to get a replacement phone from T-Mobile and some others said their motherboard needed to be replaced.
Any other ideas before I call T-Mobile?
Thanks!
Did you try clearing battery stats?
redpoint73 said:
Did you try clearing battery stats?
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Yes, several times. Good call, though! By clearing the stats, I was able to get to the 81%.
Thanks!
Have you tried reflashing the rom? Maybe trying a different rom? Clear caches? I dunno I'm shooting for broke i guess....is it an aftermarket battery or stock?
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Have you tried reflashing the rom? Maybe trying a different rom? Clear caches? I dunno I'm shooting for broke i guess....is it an aftermarket battery or stock?
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Thanks, killj0y. Yes. I did that after posting. I did a Titanium Backup, then Nandroid backup, then wipe, superwipe, then flashed the CM7 nightly, (which is very slick, i might add). After bump charging I was able to get it up to 71%. I let it go down to 0% overnight and now I'm letting it recharge fully.
In about an hour, I'm going to call T-mobile and see if they have any other ideas.
It is an aftermarket battery but it behaves just like the OEM/stock.
You shouldn't ever drain your battery to 0% on purpose. You run the risk of the battery not being able to take a charge. Draining to 20% for battery meter calibration purposes is more than sufficient.
Yea plus aftermarket batteries can and do fail more often than stock. What brands is it?
Do you still have your stock battery? Try using that one and see how it acts. I'm willing to bet it's the battery.
The OEM battery I could never get above 71% and the new battery I have it up to 94% now and it isn't charging any higher.
I've had it plugged in for two hours. I have read the warnings about letting the battery drop to 0% and I agree, but I figure one time wouldn't hurt it. I got the second battery, thinking it was a problem with the OEM battery.
Ah! This happened as I was typing this. For the first time in a long time, the LED is green but the battery is at 94%, which I think might be okay.
Maybe the wipe/superwipe/reflash helped? I will keep you all updated and I sincerely appreciate the help and advice.
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I have read the warnings about letting the battery drop to 0% and I agree, but I figure one time wouldn't hurt it.
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If that one time results in a battery that won't take a charge, then it hurts. Full discharge is also not good for the long term life of Li ion batteries. And it certainly doesn't help anything to run the battery to empty.
Yea I don't know how many times I've corrected people still quoting NiCd rules for Lithium ion batteries phone or otherwise lol. Anyways if the stock does the same thing it is probably the phone. Especially after a wipe, was it a clean reflash of the rom? Maybe that would work.
Here's my update. Kind of interesting.
So, by evening, my phone got down to 4% left of the battery. I plugged it in, (with my factory charger), and ZDBox said it would be 2 hours, 44 minutes until fully charged. Three hours later, it was at 45% full. I rebooted the phone and when it came up, it said it was at 86% full. Then I left it plugged in over night.
This morning, it was still at 86% and I rebooted it again, and then when it came back up it was 93% and within a couple of minutes, the LED turned green.
So, with this new batter, it *seems* slightly better, but I don't understand what's going on. This is weird, if you ask me.
The other bit of info is that at 7AM it was 93% and right now, (9AM, two hours later), my phone is at 72% with the majority of it being consumed by "Cell Standby."
I guess, since this is a new battery, there still might be some calibration/conditioning going on. I am still unsure if this points to a hardware issue with the phone.
Thanks again, for the help guys! I really wonder if I am the only person who is experiencing something like this.
Update: 19.09
Things have been a little better, but still not perfect.
I flashed CM7 Nightly, pershoot kernel, and 4.30 radio.
I have only been plugging in the charger when the phone drops below 20%. The phone only charges to 45% - 51%, then I reboot, and when it comes back up, the battery will read anywhere from 88% - 93%.
Once unplugged the batter rapidly drops down to the low 80's - mid 70 percentile and it stays in that range for a much longer time. Then once the battery drops below 40% is drains rapidly.
So, for example it says right now, "7h 54m 58s on Battery" and I'm at 20%. The breakdown is as follows:
Android system: 57%
Cell Standby: 12%
Wi-Fi: 12%
Phone Idle: 11%
Voice Calls: 9%
I'm really frustrated with having to reboot the phone to get seemingly get a full charge.
I think I am going to flash the latest nightly and then reflash the pershoot kernel and see where we are at that point. I still haven't decided if I need to call T-mobile since it could be a hardware issue.
It really sounds like a hardware issue to me. especially after several so many flashes and batteries...
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It really sounds like a hardware issue to me. especially after several so many flashes and batteries...
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Indeed. I called T-Mobile this morning and they are sending me a new phone. The guy asked me to inspect the battery, contacts, etc. He did ask me if I had put any "modified" software on it.
He also said, if they found modified software on it when they received it back at the shop, I would be charged a $108 restocking fee.
Quick, where's that downgrade guide!
Thanks for your help, everyone!
Update!
After I talked to T-Mobile, I downgraded my phone to the OTA Gingerbread and unrooted it, and turned S-ON. I admit, I was impressed with the OTA update since I had been running cooked roms since I got the think back in November 2010.
My new phone came today. Immediately, the battery behavior is completely different. I took out my battery from my old phone that said it was at 51% and put in the new phone and it said it was 80%. That's a good sign!
While we were at dinner, I got all the OTA updates, which really meant when I got home I had to downgrade it, but the guides here were really great, and I was back in business in no time.
I went with the latest CM7 nightly, the LEAK radio, and the latest pershoot kernel. I can tell already that battery behavior is much better.
Interestingly enough, on the stock gingerbread ROM, the DISPLAY was the major consumer of battery. Now on the stack I described, "Cell Phone Idle" is the biggest consumer. Maybe the stock T-MOUS radio is the best!?!? Who knows.
I hope this helps others who might be having weird battery problems. Have a great weekend!
I'm having this exact behavior where I can't get past ~73% without rebooting, then it goes to ~93%, which is about as high as I can get it. Guess I'll call T-Mo, I've seen it with different ROMs to I figured it was probably hardware as well.
Hey Thermalx, I hear you! The replacement phone I got from T-Mobile is behaves completely different. I have kept a charge +26 hours. I never thought I'd see the day!
Let us know how it works out.
Thanks!
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Hello people, after having used my Touch pro 2's GPS function extensively one day on battery, I have realized that the battery's life has shortened by huge amounts of time. It lasts for less than 24 hours now, so I was wondering if I needed a new battery or is there something I can do to restore it back to the previous state. Thanks!
I don't think using the GPS should ruin your battery, just doesn't make sense! Are you sure you shut off the GPS after using it? Are you running any other programmes in the background? Did you flash a new ROM?
My battery started going down twice as fast after swapping to the new "official" Sense 2.5 ROM.
you can try a couple of things that may extend your battery life. try first turning off the auto speakerphone when the phone is face down. i just did this and i can tell a marked difference in just a couple of days. also search battery life reg edits. theres a ton out there here and on ppcgeeks that will definetly help. in general i noticed that when I use GPS the battery drain is pretty high. hope that helps
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Hello people, after having used my Touch pro 2's GPS function extensively one day on battery, I have realized that the battery's life has shortened by huge amounts of time. It lasts for less than 24 hours now, so I was wondering if I needed a new battery or is there something I can do to restore it back to the previous state. Thanks!
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Using the GPS all day will def drain your battery much faster, especially if you're using aGPS and/or an app that also downloads data to compliment the location info (like google maps). The GPS radio isn't 2-way like the phone or 3G or wifi, but it's still a radio and will give a noticible hit on your batt life when used even moderately, let alone all day.
If you're going to be using GPS a lot, you might want to try different radio roms to see if any of them make a difference in the batt life for you, but I don't know that will make as much of a difference as it does for the phone reception, etc. I would also suggest evaluating various GPS apps, with an eye on relative battery drain
Well guys, thanks for the answers, but that still doesn't solve my problem because I don't use the GPS function often at all, but the battery still drains quickly. Also, there are no programs running in the background. There is however a data connection that is always on and the mail checks for mail every hour. But the thing is I don't want to change any settings to enhance battery life, If it worked fine with the same settings before, why wont it do the same now? Do I need a new battery? Thanks!
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Well guys, thanks for the answers, but that still doesn't solve my problem because I don't use the GPS function often at all, but the battery still drains quickly. Also, there are no programs running in the background. There is however a data connection that is always on and the mail checks for mail every hour. But the thing is I don't want to change any settings to enhance battery life, If it worked fine with the same settings before, why wont it do the same now? Do I need a new battery? Thanks!
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Ahhh sorry, I misunderstood, I thought you were just saying it drains faster while you use the GPS like that, not since you used it...I get it now.
That one day of heavy use shouldn't have killed your battery, take a look at THIS thread, others with the same issue/question have posted different things that have worked for them...you might want to give the steps in post #31 a try before thinking about buying a new batt.
Dimitri Stephan said:
Well guys, thanks for the answers, but that still doesn't solve my problem because I don't use the GPS function often at all, but the battery still drains quickly. Also, there are no programs running in the background. There is however a data connection that is always on and the mail checks for mail every hour. But the thing is I don't want to change any settings to enhance battery life, If it worked fine with the same settings before, why wont it do the same now? Do I need a new battery? Thanks!
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You can install " battclock " and you can continuously see what the battery drain actually is during different functions.
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You can install " battclock " and you can continuously see what the battery drain actually is during different functions.
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Yes, great recommendation! (why didn't I think of that? lol)
And with battclock you can now see your CPU usage in real-time, which is probably one of the best coincidental indicators of battery drain (much more so than memory load, in my opinion)
Hi Dimitri,
I experienced the same problem where my battery life suddenly "shifted" from 48 hours to 12 hours on regular use..
I thought the problem was the battery and I replaced it, this did not help at all..
The only cause of this problem that I can think was loading the official HTC UK 6.5 ROM (1.86.401.0)..
hilt49 said:
Hi Dimitri,
I experienced the same problem where my battery life suddenly "shifted" from 48 hours to 12 hours on regular use..
I thought the problem was the battery and I replaced it, this did not help at all..
The only cause of this problem that I can think was loading the official HTC UK 6.5 ROM (1.86.401.0)..
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This is exactly what I am experiencing. (This together with not being able to connect the device to PC)
Installed several 6.5 ROMs and suddenly the battery lasts only half a night.
My question is: When the battery is full, when you turn the device off (completely off, not in standby mode!) does the battery drain then?
As far as I see, the battery has only 50% left after a night rest while it is off. So, the only way to keep the battery full is to remove it from the device.
What are your experiences with this?
Bright.Light said:
This is exactly what I am experiencing. (This together with not being able to connect the device to PC)
Installed several 6.5 ROMs and suddenly the battery lasts only half a night.
My question is: When the battery is full, when you turn the device off (completely off, not in standby mode!) does the battery drain then?
As far as I see, the battery has only 50% left after a night rest while it is off. So, the only way to keep the battery full is to remove it from the device.
What are your experiences with this?
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If you are truely turning it completely off, the battery should NOT drain at all. Have you tried a new battery? I bought a pair of batteries and an external charger on flEabay for like $12. The batteries are good as originals as far as I can tell.
worwig said:
If you are truely turning it completely off, the battery should NOT drain at all. Have you tried a new battery? I bought a pair of batteries and an external charger on flEabay for like $12. The batteries are good as originals as far as I can tell.
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Yes, I have two batteries, even an external charger.
Even when a battery is charged with the external charger, then put in the phone it drains the battery
hey guys can anyone link any of the forum topics to tweak battery life? the only things I have done is the general setting on the phone and the power management options with advance config are there more options and tweaks available?
thanks for all help!
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If you are truely turning it completely off, the battery should NOT drain at all. Have you tried a new battery? I bought a pair of batteries and an external charger on flEabay for like $12. The batteries are good as originals as far as I can tell.
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I will test this (again) tomorrow night.
Bright.Light said:
This is exactly what I am experiencing. (This together with not being able to connect the device to PC)
Installed several 6.5 ROMs and suddenly the battery lasts only half a night.
My question is: When the battery is full, when you turn the device off (completely off, not in standby mode!) does the battery drain then?
As far as I see, the battery has only 50% left after a night rest while it is off. So, the only way to keep the battery full is to remove it from the device.
What are your experiences with this?
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Bright light...I'm also having BOTH of those problems...stock ATT rom. Within the past week my battery life has dropped exponentially, and when I went to sync last night, had not done so in a week or so, I get nothing...none of my PC's will recognize the phone as even being plugged in, let alone sync. I'm thinking maybe an ATT botched update?
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Bright light...I'm also having BOTH of those problems...stock ATT rom. Within the past week my battery life has dropped exponentially, and when I went to sync last night, had not done so in a week or so, I get nothing...none of my PC's will recognize the phone as even being plugged in, let alone sync. I'm thinking maybe an ATT botched update?
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So it seems I'm not alone.
Mine is a universal one, no brand whatsoever. I will try to reflash the original (6.1) stock ROM, including radio.
Have you flashed yours already?
@Bright.light @VirtualHomer:
I have the crap battery + no activesync issue.
I'm on the Josh's Black 1.7 ROM. I tried hard reseting, reflashing, going back to the stock ROM, but no improvement.
I have heard that removing the battery overnight is a possible fix for the USB issue (maybe for both?), but I haven't tried yet, will try tonight.
If anyone out there has any potential soultions here... would be great. Right now, I only get 1/2 a day (~6 hours) out of the battery & no hotsync at all (other than BT).
One thing I am pretty sure of: The bad battery life and the activesync issue came up around the same time. Wierd.
Cheers
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@Bright.light @VirtualHomer:
I have the crap battery + no activesync issue.
I'm on the Josh's Black 1.7 ROM. I tried hard reseting, reflashing, going back to the stock ROM, but no improvement.
I have heard that removing the battery overnight is a possible fix for the USB issue (maybe for both?), but I haven't tried yet, will try tonight.
If anyone out there has any potential soultions here... would be great. Right now, I only get 1/2 a day (~6 hours) out of the battery & no hotsync at all (other than BT).
One thing I am pretty sure of: The bad battery life and the activesync issue came up around the same time. Wierd.
Cheers
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You are right in assuming that battery life and connectivity issues came at the same time.
I was assuming this was because of a (bad?) flash, or maybe a bad ROM which changed something in a position that should not be changed and which is not restored by flashing another ROM.
A night without battery won't help, I think, because my device has been numerous times without any power and without any battery. However, I will try it again.
Could this be a faulty device? Or a design error?
@Bright.Light
I confirm that a night without the battery solved nothing. I have had my phone on for 5 hours now, taken 5 calls, none of them too long, checked email every 10 minutes (automagically) and I am down to 27% battery.
Also, I confirm that a replacement battery solves nothing, as I have also tried this.
I am planning on returning my device to an ATT store next week for a replacement... We'll see how it goes.
Cheers,
Matt
I'm in the same boat with mine. About two weeks ago the battery just started draining fast. Fast enough that it wouldn't make it to 4-5 hours without being charged. You could watch the battery meter drain. And what was weird was that there was no ROM change or anything that started this. Came out of the blue. Calling Spring tomorrow and getting a replacement is the best solution I can think of.
I've had my new desire z about 2 weeks now, and am utterly dissapointed by a frankly dreadful battery life.
It's my second DZ, given the original was nicked, but (kicks self) wasn't insured, so was purchased from a supplier that shipped my phone from Hong Kong (I live in UK, and the new phone is an identical model, except for a slight difference in key layout - A2727 I think is model number)
The original phone would give me over two days life with very low use, which i considered to be fair for a decent smart phone.
The new phone barely gives me 10 hours with no use. I've done a couple of tests - unplugged it at 2am, but 8am it's at 30% or lower. This was done with all data connections turned off.
If i leave the new phone to go dead then that's it - it won't charge. The only way i've found to get juice back into the battery is to hold it in my old touch-pro 2 until it's charged enough to charge from the desire.
Last night was the clincher. I've gone out with some friends to the pub. I had a conversation over it, and checked my battery life - 42%. As a last dith effort i factory reset the phone at that point to rule out a mischevious app, and checked - 39%
Within 2 hours, and with no use at all that was down at 8%. In order to avoid the charge issue i cut my losses and turned it off at that point. Once home (oh, about 4 hours later maybe) I was unable to turn it back on. I then left it plugged in overnight, and was still unable to turn it on this morning until i'd done my cross-phone charging trick.
I'm now entirely convinced there's some form of hardware issue at fault here, so i'm wondering if anyone else has had the same problem with this phone before? I see lots of thread regarding poor battery life, but most seem to be solved by turning data off or some rouge app, neither of which are an issue in this case. Also, any hints for making my life easier when I phone HTC tomorrow? I've read elsewhere their support might not be all it should be.
Thanks in advance for any help! I've ready to pull my hair out as what is a fantastic phone otherwise has been completely ruined by this battery issue.
I think you should get a new battery to rule out that the battery itself isn't a problem. I had similar issues with my G1 a while back and it solved a lot of wierd, seemingly unrelated problems. Batteries are pretty cheap online, $15 or so and some are free shipping.
The way that I figured out my battery was toast was by comparing it to other batteries. it had a bulge in the center where it should have been flat. Fingers crossed it isn't hardware.
had already tried a diff battery (did you know you can chew a corner off a touch pro 2 battery and make it fit??) Which i know worked fine in the old nicked dz and imo as i was getting same issue ruled out battery problem.
anyway... phone has now been returned and i'm waiting 2-3 weeks to get it repaired under warranty (though am hoping for complete replacement obviously)
Chewing on batteries has got to get you extra xda brownie points. I'll remember that
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I'd like to think there was some techincal or engineering skill in there somewhere.
but it was mostly "Well, apart form this nugget of plastic they're the same shape..."
I'm having the exact same problem... When you take you shutdown to recharge a dead battery, does it sometimes try to turn back on? I left my apartment like 30m ago with 100% battery, and I'm at 84% and declining. There's nothing running. And I've replaced the battery, same issue.
I think I might just RMA this one.. seems like an engineering issues.
Edit: I'm the 40 seconds it took me to type this, battery dropped to 82%.
Wanted to bump this post. I've since wiped / reloaded and wiped battery stats. It's still jacked. I think it's an internal electrical thing. Reason is: I'll power down to take the battery out. When I put the other one in, it'll turn back on. Or if I power down to charge, it'll turn back on - plugged in or not. I don't want to deal with the RMA process again, but I think it's my only choice. I've taken two phone calls this AM @ 100%, and it's at 96% now. Drives me insane. Ugh... I'll call TMO. Anyone know if the replacements are still rootable?
So... I had my phone replaced, and it's still doing the horrid battery thing. Flashed CM 7.1 RC3 or w/e the latest is, cycled one battery - and it drops like a stone. I have two chargers (one at work, one at home) and they both charge the phone up to 100%. But it's still losing battery life quicker than I'd like. I used to be able to get a good 18 hours out of this phone. Even with a new battery and a new phone, it's acting up. I'll try to flash an older ROM and see if it's the same thing. I updated to #130 nightly from 7/10. We'll see how it lasts today. But I do remember I had horrible luck with CM's ROM's on my G1. Battery would just drain for no reason. The main process taking up the most battery life is "Cell standby" so I changed to the latest radio - and it still drops. OP - have you figured out your problem? I've removed a ton of apps, and it's still messing up. I listen to music for... 45m in the AM, and I get down to 54%. I've formatted my SD Card as well.. it's driving me insane.
I just flashed CM 7.1 a few days ago and while the ROM is great, it does seem to be a litter harder on my battery than 6.1 was. With light/moderate usage yesterday, I got about 16 hours and that was running the battery almost completely dead. With heavy usage, I get about 10 hours and need a bump charge in the afternoon.
You might want to look into getting a Mugen 1800mah battery. You can get them on Ebay from 35-40 dollars. The seller 'nakedcellphone' is based out of Southern California and another user has confirmed ordering from them and getting a legitimate battery (lots of fakes on Ebay). Either that, or carry a charger with you...
Have you tried using Watchdog to see if there are any 'rogue' apps that are causing the drain by running in the background? What about going to spare parts > battery history > Partial Wake usage? There it will show apps that are draining your battery when you're not 'actively' using your phone. For me, the Android System is the highest drain in that menu. Good luck! Hope some of this helps!
I just checked spare parts, and there's nothing too odd in there. Just my music app. And I've changed that too - thought Winamp was killing me. I'll check Watchdog. This is a brand new OEM battery along with an RMA'd G2. It has to be the OS / Radio or something. I've stripped like every non-essential app too.
ROM : Cyanogenmod 7.1.0.1 Android 2.3.7 <<< Doubt this is important
Kernel: 2.6.35.14-nFinity [email protected] #1 <<< Might be important
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Okay so my Battery meter is definitely acting up. After charging the battery overnight it only charges to about 89%, maybe 91% if I'm lucky.
If I unplug and immediately reboot the device the battery meter says 98% or 97% at startup. Right now I have a reboot scheduler app that restarts my phone every morning at 4AM so that it's accurate-ish in the morning.
But that's not the only issue...
When I use my phone during the day, maybe making a call or two, on a 2G network to save battery, no Wifi or Bluetooth use and phone not overclocked, my battery drains incredibly fast. It goes down 15%-20% per hour! By about 3PM the phone says 15% left and then slowly drains down to 3% battery life. This is when it gets real weird... The battery level stays on 3% for about 6-8 hours, then finally goes to 2,1 and then dies. I got 3.5-4 hours on 3% with max overclock (768mhz on performance setting), maximum brightness, screen doesn't turn off, playing music while on HSDPA network, bluetooth on... So the battery doesn't seem to be the problem, only the battery reading that is displayed.
I tried going back to the default software that came with the phone, Android 2.1 with Sense and original kernel. The battery drain was a little slower but same effect, staying forever on 3%.
Can someone please explain to me why the phone does this? It's not a trainsmash, at least the phone isn't really draining as fast as it looks, but I effectively have no idea how much time the battery has left, which isn't ideal. It still lasts me the day and I charge it every night but I'd like to have this solved, it wasn't always like this. The phone is now 10 months old.
Any help at all will be greatly appreciated.
Defective "chipset"? (This i what HTC says, not me)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236844
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1252687
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1280396
I sent in my Wildfire for repair. Got it back and it's not the chipset.
Its something to do with clockwork or Cyanogen.
The battery was fine until I re-flashed them.
Now it's back to the same ****ty battery life before I sent it.
Soon as I get home. I am going to flash a new rom. Possibly an older clockwork and flash a new radio.
Will post results.
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I sent in my Wildfire for repair. Got it back and it's not the chipset.
Its something to do with clockwork or Cyanogen.
The battery was fine until I re-flashed them.
Now it's back to the same ****ty battery life before I sent it.
Soon as I get home. I am going to flash a new rom. Possibly an older clockwork and flash a new radio.
Will post results.
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If you notice the first thread, people who have never rooted/modded are also experiencing this. But, in either case, do post your results.
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If you notice the first thread, people who have never rooted/modded are also experiencing this. But, in either case, do post your results.
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True, but in my case I know the problem to an extent.
I remember now that the battery starting acting up after updating to newest Clockwork recovery.
So I will flash that first. Run tests.
Flash Radio. Run tests.
Flash Rom (non-cyanogen). Run tests.
I shall do tests 1 day at a time maybe if tests prove a posotive results then I will do 2 on the same day.
Don't forget to re-calibrate the battery before your tests. It's a major cause of battery drain on Custom ROMs.
Ah, yes. Almost forgot :3
So, my battery is wack... and I think it's only been acting like this since I went to a KK ROM? Maybe? Feels like it...
I've had this tablet since it was released last fall, and this behavior is very recent.
Anyways, it dies FAST. Like nose dives in a matter of 5-15 minutes. What's even weirder, is that sometimes, if I power cycle the device, it'll jump up by 30-60%. But then just dies again in another 5-15 minutes.
And there's a screenshot after I just power-cycled.
It jumped from 11% to 71%!!
Crazy!
I've also tried letting it get to 5% then charging it to 100%, done that twice. No luck. I don't know if this is related, but if I power it completely off, and plug it in, it turns on... kinda weird. My Note 3 doesn't do that, it just stays off and shows the battery charge indicator.
NaxIonz said:
So, my battery is wack... and I think it's only been acting like this since I went to a KK ROM? Maybe? Feels like it...
I've had this tablet since it was released last fall, and this behavior is very recent.
Anyways, it dies FAST. Like nose dives in a matter of 5-15 minutes. What's even weirder, is that sometimes, if I power cycle the device, it'll jump up by 30-60%. But then just dies again in another 5-15 minutes.
And there's a screenshot after I just power-cycled.
It jumped from 11% to 71%!!
Crazy!
I've also tried letting it get to 5% then charging it to 100%, done that twice. No luck. I don't know if this is related, but if I power it completely off, and plug it in, it turns on... kinda weird. My Note 3 doesn't do that, it just stays off and shows the battery charge indicator.
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Hi, I have similar problem and I am with 4.3 android. I have battery loss when I play games. It drops to 2-3% really fast and after reboot it goes up to 35-40%. Once I fully depleted my battery and charge it. This time there were no battery lost. After the second charging problem persists.
If you manage to fixed it please tell us how.
Rupar4o said:
Hi, I have similar problem and I am with 4.3 android. I have battery loss when I play games. It drops to 2-3% really fast and after reboot it goes up to 35-40%. Once I fully depleted my battery and charge it. This time there were no battery lost. After the second charging problem persists.
If you manage to fixed it please tell us how.
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No fix yet... still looking for a solution
NaxIonz said:
No fix yet... still looking for a solution
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In other thread one guy says that he has the same problem and he just go to the store and they change his battery.
Rupar4o said:
In other thread one guy says that he has the same problem and he just go to the store and they change his battery.
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Well, I doubt that I can do that since I have a Custom ROM on my tablet
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same here
I have a similar problem with my p600. the tablet is new, got it since a month or less.
at first i was amazed of the battery life i use it a lot for work writing documents and sheets on excel, battery used to perfom quite well giving me more than 5 hours of screen on, but recently the battery starts to drop very fast, now i can barely get around 2 hours of screen on.
i've already done 2 cycles of full discharge and then charge it completely with the tablet turned off. but the problem stills.
also sometimes when i reboot the tablet the battery goes from i.e 20% to 40% after the reboot.
im still looking for a fix or solution, today i found a new official firmware for my model (4.4 firmware for telcel mexico). going to wait until the tablet is fully charged and then flash the new firmware. I dont know if its going to help but i got nothing to lose.
by the way, sending it to semsung is not an option because of knox 0x1
vashminted said:
I have a similar problem with my p600. the tablet is new, got it since a month or less.
at first i was amazed of the battery life i use it a lot for work writing documents and sheets on excel, battery used to perfom quite well giving me more than 5 hours of screen on, but recently the battery starts to drop very fast, now i can barely get around 2 hours of screen on.
i've already done 2 cycles of full discharge and then charge it completely with the tablet turned off. but the problem stills.
also sometimes when i reboot the tablet the battery goes from i.e 20% to 40% after the reboot.
im still looking for a fix or solution, today i found a new official firmware for my model (4.4 firmware for telcel mexico). going to wait until the tablet is fully charged and then flash the new firmware. I dont know if its going to help but i got nothing to lose.
by the way, sending it to semsung is not an option because of knox 0x1
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sorry to revive an old thread. I have this exact issue! it's driving me bonkers! Any fixes?
brett_day said:
sorry to revive an old thread. I have this exact issue! it's driving me bonkers! Any fixes?
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try this, bring life back to battery. If you use the trial version, keep exit and redo it until all cells are done.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.BoshBashStudios.batterydoctorrepair
buhohitr said:
try this, bring life back to battery. If you use the trial version, keep exit and redo it until all cells are done.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.BoshBashStudios.batterydoctorrepair
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perfect thanks. I will def give this a try.
brett_day said:
perfect thanks. I will def give this a try.
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Well unfortunately this has not worked....battery is still tanking. last night i played plague for 30 minutes....in 30 mins battery went from 90% to 25%. I think i will try reflashing KitKat....maybe my original update was screwy. If that does not fix it then I guess I will have to call Sammy.
Man i ha e exactly the same problem. I calibrated it some months ago and it seemed to work fine. Now the problem is back.... Dont know what to do... I have tried several apps, though i read google doesn't recomend to use any app to fix the battery... we really need help here
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vashminted said:
I have a similar problem with my p600. the tablet is new, got it since a month or less.
at first i was amazed of the battery life i use it a lot for work writing documents and sheets on excel, battery used to perfom quite well giving me more than 5 hours of screen on, but recently the battery starts to drop very fast, now i can barely get around 2 hours of screen on.
i've already done 2 cycles of full discharge and then charge it completely with the tablet turned off. but the problem stills.
also sometimes when i reboot the tablet the battery goes from i.e 20% to 40% after the reboot.
im still looking for a fix or solution, today i found a new official firmware for my model (4.4 firmware for telcel mexico). going to wait until the tablet is fully charged and then flash the new firmware. I dont know if its going to help but i got nothing to lose.
by the way, sending it to semsung is not an option because of knox 0x1
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Bumping up I have the same exact problem... any fixes?
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Sorry to bump this, has anyone found a solution yet.
I've replaced the battery 3 times in about 9 months, but had this issue about a yr, was sent back to Samsung who changed the battery and supposedly updated the fw 4.4.2, I have since replaced the battery another 3 times every 3 months, each time either factory resetting or flashing a new rom, currently on official Smp600 5.1.1 BTU rom, today my battery was on 47%, I plugged in charger and was watching/streaming a movie on it, about 80 minutes later the tablet shut off, which was odd it's never powered off while on charge, powered it back on and battery said 19%, my previous issues has been the same as others, it can be on 100%, play a game, or stream a movie,or watch youtube etc and it will nosedive dramatically 20/30% at a time, sometimes within 10 mins it's gone from 100% to less than 30%, it's clear there's some sort of issue if others have it, I was wondering if a thread should be made to list ppl with this issue to see how many there are and go from there.
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Sorry to bump this, has anyone found a solution yet.
I've replaced the battery 3 times in about 9 months, but had this issue about a yr, was sent back to Samsung who changed the battery and supposedly updated the fw 4.4.2, I have since replaced the battery another 3 times every 3 months, each time either factory resetting or flashing a new rom, currently on official Smp600 5.1.1 BTU rom, today my battery was on 47%, I plugged in charger and was watching/streaming a movie on it, about 80 minutes later the tablet shut off, which was odd it's never powered off while on charge, powered it back on and battery said 19%, my previous issues has been the same as others, it can be on 100%, play a game, or stream a movie,or watch youtube etc and it will nosedive dramatically 20/30% at a time, sometimes within 10 mins it's gone from 100% to less than 30%, it's clear there's some sort of issue if others have it, I was wondering if a thread should be made to list ppl with this issue to see how many there are and go from there.
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I've been having the same issue for some time now. Calibrating the battery does help, I don't experience the problem nearly as much after calibrating it. But it'll still nosedive on occasion, maybe once a week. This is the app I use to calibrate it https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
I will start out by saying I have ALMOST tried every trick or hack or mod software related to attempt and resolve this issue.
I will let the screenshots speak for themselves.
I am starting to think there is something physically wrong with this device which is odd because when I opened it up to take the plastic cover off to expose the boards I found no evidence of any liquid intrusion at all.
Only one of the pictures is from a different charge cycle maybe a day or two after the others.
To be specific I am trying to eliminate deep sleep battery drain as much as possible. my htc one x does not drain anywhere near what this galaxy s3 does even though everything is disabled. I've tried different rom / kernel / settings / screen / leds / sync / etc.
Wondering if someone might notice something I've missed here.
thanks!
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I will start out by saying I have ALMOST tried every trick or hack or mod software related to attempt and resolve this issue.
I will let the screenshots speak for themselves.
I am starting to think there is something physically wrong with this device which is odd because when I opened it up to take the plastic cover off to expose the boards I found no evidence of any liquid intrusion at all.
Only one of the pictures is from a different charge cycle maybe a day or two after the others.
To be specific I am trying to eliminate deep sleep battery drain as much as possible. my htc one x does not drain anywhere near what this galaxy s3 does even though everything is disabled. I've tried different rom / kernel / settings / screen / leds / sync / etc.
Wondering if someone might notice something I've missed here.
thanks!
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It could be app updates. There was an update to Google drive just a couple days ago and that night after I updated it my battery died overnight when it was nearly fully charged. I cleared the app cache and data and the phone is back to normal. I've seen this happen with a few app updates lately.
Hope this helps.
It could be, and quite possibly is something like what jack man said above. But it could also have to do with the battery itself getting old. Many of these devices have been running for over 2 years now, and the batteries do go bad.
If you really think its a hardware issue though, the only way to know for sure is to flash stock firmware via Odin, factory reset with stock recovery (wipes ALL your apos and data), then test it out over a couple of full cycles without restoring any old data. If you are running anything custom, or restoring backup data, you have way to many "unknowns" to make a call on whether or not it has anything to do with hardware.
BBS is great, but unless you use and post its logs (including kernel wakelocks), it won't really tell you much more than you already know and the logs are much more helpful to us than screenshots.
Mine started doing that a couple weeks ago, for like two days the battery drained like crazy even though it was deep sleeping fine with no wake locks, 16% loss per hour ... I replaced the usb cable I was using to charge it, as it was going bad to where you couldn't touch the phone without hearing the connect/disconnect sounds cycling rapidly, bought a ventev 2.1 amp charger to replace the 0.8 I was using, and did a battery recalibration, now all is well, draining less than 1% per hour with screen off, averaging 1.5% during the day with occasional usage. And that's with the stock battery that's been in it for 18mos.
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brand new OEM battery from amazon.com - I got the phone stock w/ original battery and noticed the drain issue, first thing I did was order a new battery and flashed CM11 to see what would happen.
drain exists all across the board with this one.
I've also tried different chargers and cables, and even the charging dock on my radio.
what re-calibration method did you use?
I let it run dead till it shut itself off, charged to full while powered off, booted back up and wiped the batterystats.bin, then let it drain all the way again before going back to normal charging cycles.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445335
What is the date on the new oem battery? There are still places with "new" batteries that were actually manufactured 2 years ago. Leaving them shelved for that long they can still go bad. Probably not the caes but figured id mention it anyway.
I will check on that date. I bought an oem samsung charger from bestbuy last night to do a full charge with the phone off. I let it drain down to about 40% from idling and light usage. I've read of people getting better life after using an official charger after several charge cycles.
Ive heard that too. Definitely worth a try, though Ive always thought what matters is the output be the same, but I could be wrong. Never really looked into it.
While trying the new charger for a few cycles you should also set BBS to start monitoring and logging your wakelocks. (Dont forget to tell it to include kernel wakelocks)
This way if you are still having problems youll already have the logs we would end up asking for anyway.
will it save the logs if the phone auto shuts off due to low battery?
I think it should
looks like the logs reset because I have to plug in the phone to get it to boot back up.
either way, the new samsung brand charger doesn't make a bit of difference in terms of battery life, but it does charge the phone a hell of a lot faster haha!
I even did an advance wipe in twrp so I was left with just recovery and download mode so I sideloaded yesterday's CM11 nightly and left it bare with no gapps. also flashed BMS kernel through sideload.
turned everything off (location/wifi) put in airplane mode, and still loosing about 8% an hour with no suspicious wakelocks or "alarms".
what is the difference between the two?
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looks like the logs reset because I have to plug in the phone to get it to boot back up.
either way, the new samsung brand charger doesn't make a bit of difference in terms of battery life, but it does charge the phone a hell of a lot faster haha!
I even did an advance wipe in twrp so I was left with just recovery and download mode so I sideloaded yesterday's CM11 nightly and left it bare with no gapps. also flashed BMS kernel through sideload.
turned everything off (location/wifi) put in airplane mode, and still loosing about 8% an hour with no suspicious wakelocks or "alarms".
what is the difference between the two?
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I'm having the same issue.. Pain in the ass.
I've factory reset, clear cache then flashed with Odin the stock 4.4.2 firmwares for Bell, Rogers and Telus, all have the same drain. When I add my google account I get Google play service keep awake issues.
Phone doesn't last 1/2 a day. From 100% it drops about 10%/hour when in airplane mode and 15%/hour is play service is enabled.
I'm blown away by this. The battery isn't the issue, I pulled it and swapped with a known good s3, the drain did not occur on the other s3.
I'd love to get this resolved.. If I can't, on to ebay it goes.
Yeah I'm with you on the eBay thing. At&t maxes trade in at 55 bucks in mint condition. I have to recoup the cost of this new battery from amazon !
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Iz3man said:
I'm having the same issue.. Pain in the ass.
I've factory reset, clear cache then flashed with Odin the stock 4.4.2 firmwares for Bell, Rogers and Telus, all have the same drain. When I add my google account I get Google play service keep awake issues.
Phone doesn't last 1/2 a day. From 100% it drops about 10%/hour when in airplane mode and 15%/hour is play service is enabled.
I'm blown away by this. The battery isn't the issue, I pulled it and swapped with a known good s3, the drain did not occur on the other s3.
I'd love to get this resolved.. If I can't, on to ebay it goes.
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Yeah I'm with you on the eBay thing. At&t maxes trade in at 55 bucks in mint condition. I have to recoup the cost of this new battery from amazon !
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As is in perfect condition unlocked $175.00 buy it now... Should work fine
Try ininstalling updates for google play services. I know ive seen it reported before, i just cant recall if that was the fix. I knoe it was simple though.
undivide said:
looks like the logs reset because I have to plug in the phone to get it to boot back up.
either way, the new samsung brand charger doesn't make a bit of difference in terms of battery life, but it does charge the phone a hell of a lot faster haha!
I even did an advance wipe in twrp so I was left with just recovery and download mode so I sideloaded yesterday's CM11 nightly and left it bare with no gapps. also flashed BMS kernel through sideload.
turned everything off (location/wifi) put in airplane mode, and still loosing about 8% an hour with no suspicious wakelocks or "alarms".
what is the difference between the two?
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Can you get logs of this situation? In your previous case you had an apparent problem with Google Play Services where it would wake your phone up to 32 times per hour. That said, if you still get battery drain like that, after full wipe w/o anything waking your phone up or any wakelock then something is definitely wrong with either your battery or your device.
Iz3man said:
I'm having the same issue.. Pain in the ass.
I've factory reset, clear cache then flashed with Odin the stock 4.4.2 firmwares for Bell, Rogers and Telus, all have the same drain. When I add my google account I get Google play service keep awake issues.
Phone doesn't last 1/2 a day. From 100% it drops about 10%/hour when in airplane mode and 15%/hour is play service is enabled.
I'm blown away by this. The battery isn't the issue, I pulled it and swapped with a known good s3, the drain did not occur on the other s3.
I'd love to get this resolved.. If I can't, on to ebay it goes.
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No BBS = no troubleshooting. From your screenshots one can see you have something keeping your phone awake, but we can't guess what it is.
polobunny said:
Can you get logs of this situation? In your previous case you had an apparent problem with Google Play Services where it would wake your phone up to 32 times per hour. That said, if you still get battery drain like that, after full wipe w/o anything waking your phone up or any wakelock then something is definitely wrong with either your battery or your device.
No BBS = no troubleshooting. From your screenshots one can see you have something keeping your phone awake, but we can't guess what it is.
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What is BBS?
Iz3man said:
What is BBS?
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BetterBatteryStats. It's pretty much the number 1 tool to diagnose battery issues.