Hey all,
Recently the 'y' key on my physical keyboard hasn't been working properly. If I haven't pushed it within the last few minutes I have to push it several times before I can start typing y's. I've tried this on CM7 #186, MIUI 1.9.9, and Virtuous 2.0.0, and they all have the same problem. This would seem to suggest that the kernel and ROM isn't the problem?
Might it fix it by flashing another radio? (I'm on the one that came with the gingerbread desire z update at the moment).
Else, do I need to reset my phone to stock and go for warranty?
Thanks.
Atomcracker said:
Hey all,
Recently the 'y' key on my physical keyboard hasn't been working properly. If I haven't pushed it within the last few minutes I have to push it several times before I can start typing y's. I've tried this on CM7 #186, MIUI 1.9.9, and Virtuous 2.0.0, and they all have the same problem. This would seem to suggest that the kernel and ROM isn't the problem?
Might it fix it by flashing another radio? (I'm on the one that came with the gingerbread desire z update at the moment).
Else, do I need to reset my phone to stock and go for warranty?
Thanks.
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No flashing a radio has nothing to do with it. It is probably a hardware problem then.
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evilcuber said:
No flashing a radio has nothing to do with it. It is probably a hardware problem then.
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Yup, on further inspection you're right. The 'y' key needs a little more travel than just the "click" of the key when you push it. So if I push harder it works 100%. Which is why it works after several presses. I guess I get annoyed and subconsciously push harder.
Think this is reparable somehow?
Thanks.
I have a similar issue with my spacebar. I have to press alittle harder than i would like and its annoying, but i dont think its repairable without ripping your phone apart.
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Fair enough. Good to know I'm not the only one.
I'll probably just teach myself to type by pushing harder, and hopefully that'll stop it being a problem.
Well repairing any hardware problem means taking it apart lol.
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every other time my phone rings I cant answer it. The accept button just wont move?? is it just me or have anyone else had this error I have a dezire z
Do you have set CPU set to 245MHz @ screen off?
no i dont, why?
Well that could be one cause, maybe it's a bad app causing your phone to temporarily freeze? Can you slide it the other way and ignore the call?
Did you try flashing a different kernel?
Sent from my CyanogenMod powered G2.
Utorrent76 said:
Did you try flashing a different kernel?
Sent from my CyanogenMod powered G2.
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why do you suggest this? how do you know hes using kernels? im just trying to see what your connection to the solution is -its quite a specific answer to a problem that hasnt really been examined. what rom is he on, etc before you can start talking about kernels -- so can you clarify?
accept button - do you mean the slider? if you have cmod - just activate settings to disable lock menu/trackball/ whatever --also you could try the no-lock unless you have security issues.
if no cmod -- theres apps to reduce the lockage -- that may help you get your phone calls but still doesnt fix the problem? you could try enomther's and his awesome extra ssettings app has all those options
Thanks for your help, well it is my wifes phone and it is fresh from the store, just a bunch of apps installed.
I will try some things and see if i can figure it out. And yes it is the slide button, can that be switched for a push button, Is it theme based or in the dialer?? hope you understand what i say.
jaypeg123 said:
Thanks for your help, well it is my wifes phone and it is fresh from the store, just a bunch of apps installed.
I will try some things and see if i can figure it out. And yes it is the slide button, can that be switched for a push button, Is it theme based or in the dialer?? hope you understand what i say.
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If its a stock DESIRE Z and not a G2 then I think it's safe to assume its got sense on it and not AOSP. Did you try hard resetting it? (power down and pulling the battery for at least 30 sec) other than that id check for any OTA updates in the settings menu. OR if you're willing/know how, you can root it and run CM or virtuous. Both ROMs are excellent. If you do that and the problem persists, it could very well be a faulty unit. You have a lot of options!
I found I had problems answering calls when I had a specific make of screen protector on the phone. As soon as I took that off and went back to a previous one I'd used then it was fine again ! It's a long shot, but I thought I'd throw it in there.
Problem solved, An update did the trick, thanks for helping out my friends,
same problem , cannot answer with swipe keys
I have the same problem, which update did you use
same problem , cannot answer with swipe keys
I have the same problem, which update did you use
Hi,
sometimes the touchscreen of my defy stops working (but the phone is not frozen)
and the only way to fix it is to lock/unlock the screen...
does anyone have the same problem (and can help me)?
thanks
P.S
i've had the problem both with stock rom (2.2) and with cyanogenmod rc 1.5
When this happens, do the 4 buttons below your display still give you haptic feedback (little vibration) or do they react not at all?
Also, does this only happen when there's the normal launcher/standby screen active or when there's an other app active too ?
Did you undervolt ?
Edit: Also, this seems to be a hardware problem which seems to be well known in a certain German android forum but I cannot find much about it in here. In short, the digitizer unit seems to be broken for some people and locking/unlocking helps because it disconnects and connects power for the digitizer. The people there fixed the problem by replacing the digitizer (which isn't easy at all!).
It would be nice to have someone from XDA who had this problem before too, to confirm this problem!
First of all, thank you for the answer
When I have the problem, 4 buttons stop working too.
It usually happens after a period of stand-by, i don't undervolt or have some other application running than the launcher (ADWlauncher).
I bought the phone one week ago, if it is an HW problem, i can't repair it by myself...
I'd recommend to wait and see whether xda has other suggestions for you and if not, just check the Motorola hotline and ask whether they know something and if they do change it for free.
Also, what you describe fits perfectly to what I've read elsewhere (don't know whether I'm allowed to post a link here or if it were useful at all because it is in German). So it sounds like your digitizer could really be defect.
ok, even if i hope to solve the problem by myself...
News: They've changed the touch screen, but the problem is still present...
Can it be a sw problem??
Keep sending it back, they will replace it in the end.
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the whole phone?
Yes, the whole phone. They have two year warranties, but don't put up or make do, you should have a phone that works right
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I use to get that problem on stock and some versions of CM.
Was definitely a software problem for me, havent had that problem since I'm on nightlies.
I wonder when it happens ,are you charging?
nameite said:
I use to get that problem on stock and some versions of CM.
Was definitely a software problem for me, havent had that problem since I'm on nightlies.
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What nightly version are you using?
The problem happens even if i'm not charging...
I wanted to get the opinion of the devs who make all of the ROMS for this device. Below is my experience and my theory:
I have had the phantom soft key issue on every incarnation of the GSII software. I un rooted and went all the way back to the beginning. I used each rom version till the issue occurred, then I let the phone update to the next ROM version and repeated the process. Every single un rooted update had the same issue and then every single Rooted ROM all ROMS for the ET4G were tried and the issue occurred.
Strange part is it came out of nowhere. I have had and have been flashing for an entire year without issue and one day all of a sudden... BOOM. I don't think it is as simple as the signal issue. I think it has to do with flashing as well. Unless this is happening to someone who has never rooted their device, I think something in the roms we flash trigger the issue which is related to signal.
Has anyone known anyone who has never rooted their device and has had the issue? By the way, the store gave me a brand new factory OEM screen and the issue still occurs.
Gorguts said:
I wanted to get the opinion of the devs who make all of the ROMS for this device. Below is my experience and my theory:
I have had the phantom soft key issue on every incarnation of the GSII software. I un rooted and went all the way back to the beginning. I used each rom version till the issue occurred, then I let the phone update to the next ROM version and repeated the process. Every single un rooted update had the same issue and then every single Rooted ROM all ROMS for the ET4G were tried and the issue occurred.
Strange part is it came out of nowhere. I have had and have been flashing for an entire year without issue and one day all of a sudden... BOOM. I don't think it is as simple as the signal issue. I think it has to do with flashing as well. Unless this is happening to someone who has never rooted their device, I think something in the roms we flash trigger the issue which is related to signal.
Has anyone known anyone who has never rooted their device and has had the issue? By the way, the store gave me a brand new factory OEM screen and the issue still occurs.
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I had the issue straight out of the box when we still had gingerbread. I hardly get it anymore besides on occasion
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Elw00d said:
I had the issue straight out of the box when we still had gingerbread. I hardly get it anymore besides on occasion
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Right outta the box before rooting it?
I personally think its hardware related with, either over time the screen moving and the heating up of the device causing phantom button presses... this only recently started happening to me and after i wipe screen with cloth while its turned off it goes away. for awhile... idk haha
I disabled the hardware capacitive keys and use the software on screen buttons. Problem solved
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As said above, I had this issue on Gingerbread..out the box, no root. It'd press menu by itself lol, always gave me WTF moments. I'm on ICS now, and no problems at all.
Crazy, ok. Well I got the answers I was looking for. Thank you everyone for your info. Note 2, here I come.
Yup, happens here too. Menu key goes nuts when charging.
FYI just cause you want to get a developers opinion does not give you permission to ask a question in the development section.
Papa Smurf151 said:
FYI just cause you want to get a developers opinion does not give you permission to ask a question in the development section.
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I will begin chastising myself at once....
Gorguts said:
I will begin chastising myself at once....
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Picture please ^^^^^^^^^
I have this issue on out of box uprooted and other sget4g were okay for some time after rooting and flashing custom made roms... They too fell prey to the mysterious phantom presses... Ahhh the horror.
My fix was....... To
I have had this issue several months and now have a good solution. Use this info posted by elijahbrown on Page 464 in PA thread I believe. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34125394
" Disables menu key!
Ooookay..
Go to system/usr/keylayout
Select sec_touchkey. kl and edit as text. You'll see key 217 is search. Delete that line of code or put a "#" in front of it to turn it into a comment. Save the file.
Re boot and let meet know.
Just curious as to why you want to do this so bad? "
# comment out menu and search keys. Save file and Set permissions.
Then head over to the play store and get Button Savior. I paid for the advanced features and am very happy. Have to keep the phone until may 2013, sprint claims liquid damage so no replacement.
Button Savior on screen hidden pop up menu buttons works great and no more phantom presses menu or search pop ups ever again! 
PLEASE SEE BOTTOM OF OP FOR UPDATES
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Greetings all,
[Backstory]
I've been flashing ROMs for about a year now. I started off with Virtuous Team Gingerbread and the Sense 3.x ROMS. I had no issues.
Then I moved to CM7, and MIUI, also on Gingerbread. No problems.
I've been using the CM9/CM10 ROMs since they appeared for the Incredible 2, from AOKP and Aeroevan, respectively.
Here is where the problems start.
[Problem]
On ICS and JB ROMs, I get what I have dubbed (there is probably a better name for it) "Phantom Touch Input".
At first I thought this was caused by normal bugs and glitches in the ROM. I did my best to deal with it. Usually a simple lock/unlock would solve the issue, temporarily.
So what would happen? Without touching the screen, I would get the long press menu to show up, and then the screen and capacitive buttons would freeze. Or the screen would start to slowly half scroll to the side, and again, freeze.
The most annoying part is when I am typing on the phone. I have tried other keyboards, be it from the MIUIv4, or the default keyboards of 4.0.x, 4.1, or 4.2. All the sudden random keys are pressed, and continue to be pressed, even when my fingers are nowhere near the screen.
However, no one else seems to have this issue, so it looks like I am the lone wolf here with this problem.
Can anyone provide insight? A possible fix? Or am I forced to deal with this on all 4.x ROMs?
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UPDATE 1: Issues also occurred on CM7.2, so I may be facing a hardware issue.
UPDATE 2: Issues occurred in 4ext Touch. Looking around on YouTube, others (Incredible S users) have similar issues.
Nearly confirmed as a hardware issue.
Check Page 2 for video links.
[::AP::] said:
Greetings all,
[Backstory]
I've been flashing ROMs for about a year now. I started off with Virtuous Team Gingerbread and the Sense 3.x ROMS. I had no issues.
Then I moved to CM7, and MIUI, also on Gingerbread. No problems.
I've been using the CM9/CM10 ROMs since they appeared for the Incredible 2, from AOKP and Aeroevan, respectively.
Here is where the problems start.
[Problem]
On ICS and JB ROMs, I get what I have dubbed (there is probably a better name for it) "Phantom Touch Input".
At first I thought this was caused by normal bugs and glitches in the ROM. I did my best to deal with it. Usually a simple lock/unlock would solve the issue, temporarily.
So what would happen? Without touching the screen, I would get the long press menu to show up, and then the screen and capacitive buttons would freeze. Or the screen would start to slowly half scroll to the side, and again, freeze.
The most annoying part is when I am typing on the phone. I have tried other keyboards, be it from the MIUIv4, or the default keyboards of 4.0.x, 4.1, or 4.2. All the sudden random keys are pressed, and continue to be pressed, even when my fingers are nowhere near the screen.
However, no one else seems to have this issue, so it looks like I am the lone wolf here with this problem.
Can anyone provide insight? A possible fix? Or am I forced to deal with this on all 4.x ROMs?
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Not exactly sure, I would say its hardware if it happens on all the roms. Have you went back to CM7 or MIUI since this problem started? I would revert back to one of them and test for a couple of days to see if the problem continues. If the problem is only active in ICS or JB then someone else will have to give you a hand on a resolution.
ThePhantom97 said:
Not exactly sure, I would say its hardware if it happens on all the roms. Have you went back to CM7 or MIUI since this problem started? I would revert back to one of them and test for a couple of days to see if the problem continues. If the problem is only active in ICS or JB then someone else will have to give you a hand on a resolution.
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Ok will do when I have the chance.
Thanks for the speedy reply.
But let's say it is a hardware issue...
Do I unroot/restore/whatever and bring it back to Verizon?
Thanks.
[::AP::] said:
Ok will do when I have the chance.
Thanks for the speedy reply.
But let's say it is a hardware issue...
Do I unroot/restore/whatever and bring it back to Verizon?
Thanks.
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Yes if the phone is still under warranty
I'm so fresh you can suck my nits...
Flashed CM 7.2
My home button didn't work, but that doesn't really matter.
I still experienced the same issues.
On a side note, wow CM7.2/Gingerbread is smooth....damn kernel. But stock 2.3.x is so ugly
Anyways, it seems like I should just "start clean".
I'm not sure what that entails - not just a full wipe...something more...tips?
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Flashed CM 7.2
My home button didn't work, but that doesn't really matter.
I still experienced the same issues.
On a side note, wow CM7.2/Gingerbread is smooth....damn kernel. But stock 2.3.x is so ugly
Anyways, it seems like I should just "start clean".
I'm not sure what that entails - not just a full wipe...something more...tips?
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I use 4ext recovery myself, and I do a "full wipe" by format all partitions/factory data reset, then I see a lot of people also say wipe cache and dalvik so I throw that in as well, it don't take long but just in case a factory reset don't get them I just do it...lol. Hope that helps, and that may clear up some bugs with ICS and JB roms if you weren't doing that before. Just make sure you do a backup before wiping everything. Wouldn't want you to be without a phone if some process hiccups.
Thanks for the info.
Should I do anything with my SD card? It shouldn't affect ROM performance, but a wipe wouldn't be a bad idea, yes?
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Thanks for the info.
Should I do anything with my SD card? It shouldn't affect ROM performance, but a wipe wouldn't be a bad idea, yes?
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I doubt that the SD card would affect the performance, but as long as you have backups of everything you can do as you please, backup backup backup. You don't want to lose everything, trust me I have seen bad things happen to guys that don't backup, and I have learned from experience as well.
Right right I know.
I'll try 4ext on a fresh ROM and see how things go.
Not a good idea to flash the touch version of 4ext in light of my issues.
Did a Nandroid, hit back, then screen input froze. The on-screen time is updating, but are the capacitive buttons are lit up but do not respond/give haptic feedback, let alone the touch screen itself. Power button just moves to the power menu, where I again cannot select anything.
Pulling battery :/
This is why I will never (want to) purchase a phone without a removable battery.
So looks like my issue isn't software related. (This issue can in no way be software related [or even caused by], right?)
I've had the phone for over a year...but I guess I'll try with Verizon.
*sigh*
What a pain.
Looks like I am certainly not alone.
(Better video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25CaiveQoQg
(Similar) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kANVkc-Sk74&feature=related
I'm just really pissed off. And there isn't a phone in the market that I want.
That looks like possibly a bad digitizer, you can replace that fairly cheaply if you are out of warranty. That would be my best guess, and keep in mind I am no expert. Here is a link so you can see the process:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQL9gakQyuI
ThePhantom97 said:
That looks like possibly a bad digitizer, you can replace that fairly cheaply if you are out of warranty. That would be my best guess, and keep in mind I am no expert. Here is a link so you can see the process:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQL9gakQyuI
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That is what I was thinking.
I'll also see if I can milk anything out of Verizon. I'm already an unhappy customer, given the lack of ICS, especially when promised.
Yep, digitizer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399085
Good luck with Big Red, and let us know if you get it resolved.
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Good luck with Big Red, and let us know if you get it resolved.
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Thanks, I'll keep everyone updated.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who has had issues. Hopefully word spreads, especially to those still under warranty who are suffering from a faulty digitizer.
The phone reacts on its own from time to time. When you're in a menu it opens sub menus and starts to turn things on and off in a really fast way. I don't know what to do. It just happens sometimes but then its really annoying. I had this problem with the latest HTC GB and now with the latest official CM 7.2. So I don't think it's a software problem but hardware problem? It just startet to do that one day. I already cleaned the mouse button with an air-spray but it didn't help. Or maybe its a touchdisplay problem?
Any suggestions? Did anyone ever had something like that?
Cheers 41
41.kretschi said:
The phone reacts on its own from time to time. When you're in a menu it opens sub menus and starts to turn things on and off in a really fast way. I don't know what to do. It just happens sometimes but then its really annoying. I had this problem with the latest HTC GB and now with the latest official CM 7.2. So I don't think it's a software problem but hardware problem? It just startet to do that one day. I already cleaned the mouse button with an air-spray but it didn't help. Or maybe its a touchdisplay problem?
Any suggestions? Did anyone ever had something like that?
Cheers 41
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digitizer problem i think. its the touch section above the LCD which is responsible for detecting touch. its very cheap to get replaced. but i am not sure.
41.kretschi said:
The phone reacts on its own from time to time. When you're in a menu it opens sub menus and starts to turn things on and off in a really fast way. I don't know what to do. It just happens sometimes but then its really annoying. I had this problem with the latest HTC GB and now with the latest official CM 7.2. So I don't think it's a software problem but hardware problem? It just startet to do that one day. I already cleaned the mouse button with an air-spray but it didn't help. Or maybe its a touchdisplay problem?
Any suggestions? Did anyone ever had something like that?
Cheers 41
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Phantom touches are a digitizer issue usually. There should be a setting in cm7 to show on screen touches. If its showing you touches and your not pushing then replacing the digitizer is your best bet
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Well i mean i was right
heavy_metal_man said:
Phantom touches are a digitizer issue usually. There should be a setting in cm7 to show on screen touches. If its showing you touches and your not pushing then replacing the digitizer is your best bet
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so you got your answer..just get it replaced
This can be a rom problem too it happened with me on wpremix
Just change the rom.
Or try wiping everything :thumbup:
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I changed from original to CM
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