Please explain the difference between these options:
"Restore missing apps with data" (I assume this restores all the apps and the information within them. It should restore apps and they should act just like they did before I wiped, correct?)
"Restore all system data" (Exactly what data does this restore?)
"Restore missing apps + all system data" (this is obviously both of from above)
Here is my situation: I am installing a ROM (Synergy) and there are some small issues going on once I use Titanium to restore my apps and data. I played with the ROM before the restore and everything that was acting wierd is fine. These issues don't exsist until I restore. It must be some system settings. Mainly I have password information in my "Mail" app that only my IT guy has and getting it again is going to be a pain in the ass so I dont want to lose that data.
Any help is appreciated
Blipstein said:
Please explain the difference between these options:
"Restore missing apps with data" (I assume this restores all the apps and the information within them. It should restore apps and they should act just like they did before I wiped, correct?)
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That's correct.
It's not a good idea to restore system data across different ROMs as it can cause problems.
System data can be anything from apps that are in /system to the data that comes with them.
The problem is, that system data can conflict with your current ROMs system data.
And then you get weird issues like you are having.
mattykinsx said:
That's correct.
It's not a good idea to restore system data across different ROMs as it can cause problems.
System data can be anything from apps that are in /system to the data that comes with them.
The problem is, that system data can conflict with your current ROMs system data.
And then you get weird issues like you are having.
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So basically I should only restore "missing apps with data" ....and not "Restore system apps+ all system data" ????
Blipstein said:
So basically I should only restore "missing apps with data" ....and not "Restore system apps+ all system data" ????
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If you're switching ROMs, you absolutely should not.
Even if you're not I wouldn't restore system data unless you have a specifc reason to.
Text messages and call logs can be backed up via apps and most of the other system data is just settings that can be easily set again.
Plus, if you're changing ROMs those settings may not exist...causing issues.
mattykinsx said:
If you're switching ROMs, you absolutely should not.
Even if you're not I wouldn't restore system data unless you have a specifc reason to.
Text messages and call logs can be backed up via apps and most of the other system data is just settings that can be easily set again.
Plus, if you're changing ROMs those settings may not exist...causing issues.
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Ok...understood.
Through all of this reflashing and restoring I've been able to retain the account/password info in the "Mail"app. Hopefully it will still be there after this. I'll let you know.
Thanks
Blipstein said:
Ok...understood.
Through all of this reflashing and restoring I've been able to retain the account/password info in the "Mail"app. Hopefully it will still be there after this. I'll let you know.
Thanks
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Hey, before you do anything, you have to back up both the mail app settings and the accounts and sync settings...otherwise it won't have the information to sync.
Go into Titanium backup, select the mail app and back up data. Select the Accounts and sync settings and back up data as well.
Hopefully you get this before you do anything.
Sorry, I missed the part about your mail credentials in the OP.
When you backup or restore, use App + Data., and only backup and restore the apps you have d/l'd to your phone. They'd be the ones that are white. Can't get much easier.
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Hey, before you do anything, you have to back up both the mail app settings and the accounts and sync settings...otherwise it won't have the information to sync.
Go into Titanium backup, select the mail app and back up data. Select the Accounts and sync settings and back up data as well.
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So I just select the mail app in Titanium and select backup? Where is account and sync settings in Titanium to backup?
When I restore apps + data after I reflash, am I going to have to restore the mail app data separately?
Blipstein said:
So I just select the mail app in Titanium and select backup? Where is account and sync settings in Titanium to backup?
When I restore apps + data after I reflash, am I going to have to restore the mail app data separately?
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Open Titanium back up.
Click backup/restore
Click on "Account and Sync settings" and choose back up.
Scroll down to your email app.
Click it and choose back up as well.
Flash whatever ROM.
Restore those two apps data. [not the apps themselves, just data]
mattykinsx said:
Open Titanium back up.
Click backup/restore
Click on "Account and Sync settings" and choose back up.
Scroll down to your email app.
Click it and choose back up as well.
Flash whatever ROM.
Restore those two apps data. [not the apps themselves, just data]
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I somehow lost the info during all this. Can I reload a previous nandroid back up that I put on my pc? (i dont really even know what nandroid backs up....lol)
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Blipstein said:
I somehow lost the info during all this. Can I reload a previous nandroid back up that I put on my pc? (i dont really even know what nandroid backs up....lol)
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Yes. Just put it back on your sdcard, go into the recovery and choose restore.
mattykinsx said:
Yes. Just put it back on your sdcard, go into the recovery and choose restore.
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Ok. Am I going thru the reflashing process our just restore and reboot? Thanks so much.
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Blipstein said:
Ok. Am I going thru the reflashing process our just restore and reboot? Thanks so much.
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You just restore, it will recopy your old setup. All IMGs that were backed up.
mattykinsx said:
You just restore, it will recopy your old setup. All IMGs that were backed up.
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Wipe first?
Blipstein said:
Wipe first?
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I'm 99.99% positive that it wipes first but I don't nandroid much.
You can, it's not like it will take you more than a few extra seconds.
Lots of useful information in the Titanium Backup Wiki.
Titanium Backup
I have done all the steps for Titanium backup to restore mail settings, etc. Eventually I came the realization that not worth trying to save 15 minutes of time of entering in 8-10 account’s info. Most of the roms have issues, eliminating the issue where Titanium backup caused a problem across roms is worth a few minutes of additional setup. My process is run Full Titanium backup, full nandroid backup, copy to PC, VR Superwipe, re-partition SD (complete wipe), copy back the Titanium backup folder and new rom as well as superwipe, run superwipe, flash new rom. I never have any of the issues that many people report, then I restore apps, some with data from Titanium (eg. Games, etc. with saved data.) Bottom line I use Titanium to backup and restore user installed apps only, though I take a full backup.
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Here is my situation: I am installing a ROM (Synergy) and there are some small issues going on once I use Titanium to restore my apps and data. I played with the ROM before the restore and everything that was acting wierd is fine. These issues don't exsist until I restore. It must be some system settings. Mainly I have password information in my "Mail" app that only my IT guy has and getting it again is going to be a pain in the ass so I dont want to lose that data.
Any help is appreciated
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Here is something that might help. Are you trying to preserve the email account setup for an Exchange server? Or is this another email account type (pop/imap)?
I looked at my backups from Titanium, figuring that the server setup for my Exchange mail must be in there somewhere. After some poking around I found the file that contains everything including the password in clear-text. I know this is the password because I know my password.
I was able to find this in the file:
com.htc.android.mail-20110816-035214.tar.gz
Look for a similar file... the numbers are the date and time of the backup so they will be different for you.
I browsed the file with WinRAR (you can use any program that can open a tar) and found the file:
\data\data\com.htc.android.mail\.\shared_prefs\EASSetupWizard.xml
In this file I see something like:
<string name="password">
xxxyyyzzz
</string>
Where xxxyyyzzz is my exchange email password.
I found that the passwords for all accounts (including POP, IMAP, etc are in /data/data/com.htc.android.mail/databases/mail.db in the accounts table but the passwords are not clear-text. I think it just happens to be in the EASSetupWizard.xml file for the Exchange setup due to some sloppy programming on the part of HTC.
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Ok when I flash a new ROM and want to do so with a clean slate/wipe, I have titanium backup to back up all my apps, but I'm still kinda unsure of the full procedure as obvious as it may seem... When I did my first wipe, I had to go back and redo all of my information for everything on the phone. Is this typical? What I mean by that is I had to input all my google account info, set up my home screens, set up my facebook app...and turn off all of my sync's...
if you don't wipe, do you have to do all of that? Does a titanium backup on apps/system data allow you to not have to do this?
is this the proper step by step:
1.Titanium backup - apps/system data
2. Rom manager -download rom w/ wipe and back up
3. load rom
4. titanium restore - apps/system data?
Just apps or apps+user data. System data varies from ROM to ROM. Plus, you have no need of multiple copies of system data.
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when i flashed to virtuous and did a wipe, i did a backup before of just apps and when i restored apps+user data, it really didn't do anything. I still had to change all the configurations for everything to not sync and to put in username/password...
smtom said:
Just apps or apps+user data. System data varies from ROM to ROM. Plus, you have no need of multiple copies of system data.
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was shaky on this as well....what is the difference between user and system data? Just would be a pain to lose all layouts and wifi passwords.
I've been doing apps+system data each time and havn't really had any major problems to speak of
my titanium backup doesnt have an option to back up apps+user data... just apps and apps+system data
My bad on an unclear response.. When restoring from TB, it's apps+ user data. You do not want to restore system apps from a different rom. In the scheduling section of TB, There are different configurations you can choose.
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any way to keep home screens and such in place?
Should be the restore desktop htc sense in TB/Restore missing apps+ all system data. That's the only 1 you should pull from there for this.
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I just did a restore myself with user apps+data and it had me click 'install' for every app, pain in the ass, anyway to click and go?
Thanks
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SR3TLAW said:
I just did a restore myself with user apps+data and it had me click 'install' for every app, pain in the ass, anyway to click and go?
Thanks
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Get the paid version.
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I have a quesition about TB Pro. Today I flashed the CM6 ROM onto my DINC. When I reinstalled the TB Pro app onto the phone from my appmonster folder on the SD Card and opened it up to restore my apps in batch mode, TB Pro would FC whether I was trying to restore apps only, apps+data or even individual apps (not batch mode). Am I doing something wrong, am I misunderstanding how TB Pro is supposed to function, is there an incompatibility?
Try the problems button in titanium and clear its data in the application menu.
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Ok so, I'm looking to change my Google account, right after a full wipe and everything. But i want to keep all my apps and their data. So my question is...what do I need to select in Titanium to do this? I tried not restoring system data, but that didn't work. So i guess I'm wondering if there's some way I can still get most of my stuff back without getting the Google account settings back.
Aerodynamix said:
Ok so, I'm looking to change my Google account, right after a full wipe and everything. But i want to keep all my apps and their data. So my question is...what do I need to select in Titanium to do this? I tried not restoring system data, but that didn't work. So i guess I'm wondering if there's some way I can still get most of my stuff back without getting the Google account settings back.
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You go into titanium backup press menu/batch then pick the second option backup all user apps.
After you are backup after your wipe open titanium backup press menu/batch then pick the 9th option, restore missing apps with data then you should be good to go
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roscoenr said:
You go into titanium backup press menu/batch then pick the second option backup all user apps.
After you are backup after your wipe open titanium backup press menu/batch then pick the 9th option, restore missing apps with data then you should be good to go
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worked like a charm! thanks!
Aerodynamix said:
worked like a charm! thanks!
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Not a problem
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Hey
Whats a "general guide" when changing ROMS? I Have titanium backup installed on my Android. I wouldnt like to go thru configuring everything again and most importantly would like to keep my applications, settings, sync, calanadar, contacts, messages, etc....
These are the steps that I usually take when flashing a new rom.
1. NANDroid backup of the current running ROM
2. Complete flash (Data, Davlik, Battery, Cache)
3. Flash new ROM and boot
4. Go through the configuration screens (if any) and land on the homescreen
5. Perform a complete reboot (no fastboot from HTC, make sure it's a complete shut down and reboot)
6. Sync contacts and calendar from Gmail
7. Sync Facebook (if applicable)
8. Redownload apps and reconfigure
I am not a fan of Titanium for restoring settings and configuration if going to another dev or another ROM. It's fine if you are reflashing the same ROM, but I find stories of people who have tried to restore their configuration settings with Titanium and have headaches. Better to just take the time to reconfigure manually than to cut corners. I do, however, use Titanium to give me a good and complete list of the apps I have installed so that I can go and redownload them from market.
Have fun!
I still think its a waste of time to do a nandroid before every flash..
Nandroid the original stock(duh)
If you are on a rom u like nandroid before trying another
But if you don't like the rom and are going to flash something else then what's the point to back it up? Plus they will start filling up your sd card
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Spastic909 said:
I still think its a waste of time to do a nandroid before every flash..
Nandroid the original stock(duh)
If you are on a rom u like nandroid before trying another
But if you don't like the rom and are going to flash something else then what's the point to back it up? Plus they will start filling up your sd card
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You back it up incase the new rom does not work, so you have something to fall back to! I only keep my backups for a day then there deleted (Apart from the stock rom)
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Spastic909 said:
I still think its a waste of time to do a nandroid before every flash..
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Well, my belief is that you should always backup before flashing just so you can always get back where you started. I can see your point if you use a rom for just a few hours and then go to something else, but anything more than that... It's only a few minutes wait.
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tronmech said:
Well, my belief is that you should always backup before flashing just so you can always get back where you started. I can see your point if you use a rom for just a few hours and then go to something else, but anything more than that... It's only a few minutes wait.
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Yep, totally agree. Also, I only keep 1 nandroid or so on my SD, and move others to my PC.
Athrun88 said:
I do, however, use Titanium to give me a good and complete list of the apps I have installed so that I can go and redownload them from market.
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Is there a way to generate this list?
riahc3 said:
Is there a way to generate this list?
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I use titanium backup (free version) and have never had a problem. Just backup your apps and there is your list when you flash a new rom and redownload titanium. Then you can choose which apps you want to reload by choosing "batch" which makes it easier to reinstall all the apps quickly.
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Spastic909 said:
I still think its a waste of time to do a nandroid before every flash..
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Seems like a waste of time till you have a botched flash. It takes 5 min to backup, and saves you a TON of time if something messes up.
For OP:
1) Go to Titanium Backup, backup all apps (not system data, unless moving from one ROM to a fresh version of the same ROM).
2) Enter recovery
3) Make Nandroid backup. It will automatically be given a date and generic name (rename when you get back into ROM Manager)
4) Wipe cache/dalvik data/Factory reset
5) Flash new ROM, applicable kernels you want, etc.
6) Boot, install TB, restore apps (NOT system data!)
7) Fix permissions with ROM Manager, Reboot, etc. as the ROM requires.
Like I said, the only way you can keep your settings, etc. is if you're backing up from a ROM and returning to the same ROM. Don't try to backup system data from a Sense build and restoring it to an AOSP build. Just gonna have to deal with reconfiguring your system it'll save you hassles of incompatibility. Contacts should be syncing to your main Gmail account, so once you add that to the new ROM everything will be imported back. As far as saving SMS and MMS, there are different apps for that.
Brother has a Evo on 2.3.3 and receiving the install error with space on the phone. I figure just wipe it but not sure if the apps will be restored if I did. Can anyone verify if it does?
Unless you have selected the option to backup apps in the settings menu, then no, they will not restore. Thats the whole point of a reset, it wipes everything clean.
sitlet said:
Unless you have selected the option to backup apps in the settings menu, then no, they will not restore. Thats the whole point of a reset, it wipes everything clean.
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download titanium backup or mybackup pro(root), there is a version for non rooted phones as well and backup your apps.. restore when you get everything back up and running.
My suggestion is that you may want to restore all apps from market just incase one of your apps was causing the issue. Go to market.android.com and you can see all your apps in the upper right under I believe my market apps and will be able to click on each one and restore from there...
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Brother has a Evo on 2.3.3 and receiving the install error with space on the phone. I figure just wipe it but not sure if the apps will be restored if I did. Can anyone verify if it does?
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Try clearing cache to all his apps to free up space and maybe data to once he doesn't need it on.
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I just came from a jelly bean from. I did nandroid restore to go to cm9. Im back on cm9 but None of my apps are on my phone. What did i do wrong? Any suggestions? I have twrp recovery.
hotboyray said:
I just came from a jelly bean from. I did nandroid restore to go to cm9. Im back on cm9 but None of my apps are on my phone. What did i do wrong? Any suggestions? I have twrp recovery.
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sounds like before you made the nandroid backup you didnt checkmark to backup the data partion. it wont back it up unless you tell it to. whats the size of your backup?
simms22 said:
sounds like before you made the nandroid backup you didnt checkmark to backup the data partion. it wont back it up unless you tell it to. whats the size of your backup?
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the size of the back up is 4.71 GB... I dont know what the problem is. I dont remember clicking or unclicking backup data partion. I was just so used to using cwm recovery.
hotboyray said:
the size of the back up is 4.71 GB... I dont know what the problem is. I dont remember clicking or unclicking backup data partion. I was just so used to using cwm recovery.
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at 4.71gb(that is huge!), your apps should be there, with their data too. you try restoring it again? watch the restore, see if there is an error when on the data part.
simms22 said:
at 4.71gb(that is huge!), your apps should be there, with their data too. you try restoring it again? watch the restore, see if there is an error when on the data part.
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I just restored this back up for the like the 3rd time today. I tried my other back ups also and none of them restored my apps and data. It said the restore was successful. there were no errors when restoring the data. this is what it said
[DAta]
skipping md5 based on user setting.
wiping data without wiping /data/media
...restoring data
... done restoring...
[data done(386 seconds)]
I didnt see any error messages on the log.
when the phone came on i didnt have my background. I have the stock live wall paper showing. google was asking for location consent again. Disabled apps were enabled again. Its like i didnt even have a backup. Its kind of just like stock. only certain things actually backed up. (for example lockscreen settings, (but no lock code just the options i set it as), it still has the message i set for the lockscreen,) My phone is not even logged in to my google account which is werid.
hotboyray said:
I just restored this back up for the like the 3rd time today. I tried my other back ups also and none of them restored my apps and data. It said the restore was successful. there were no errors when restoring the data. this is what it said
[DAta]
skipping md5 based on user setting.
wiping data without wiping /data/media
...restoring data
... done restoring...
[data done(386 seconds)]
I didnt see any error messages on the log.
when the phone came on i didnt have my background. I have the stock live wall paper showing. google was asking for location consent again. Disabled apps were enabled again. Its like i didnt even have a backup. Its kind of just like stock. only certain things actually backed up. (for example lockscreen settings, (but no lock code just the options i set it as), it still has the message i set for the lockscreen,) My phone is not even logged in to my google account which is werid.
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that backup is huge. i have a lot of apps, a lot! and lots of big games with lots of data, and my biggest nandroid took only 2gb. when you made the backup, was it with cwm recovery or twrp? my only other guess is that there is a corruption somewhere, or its too big to fit in the right partitions.
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that backup is huge. i have a lot of apps, a lot! and lots of big games with lots of data, and my biggest nandroid took only 2gb. when you made the backup, was it with cwm recovery or twrp? my only other guess is that there is a corruption somewhere, or its too big to fit in the right partitions.
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I made the back up with twrp. I think i do have a back up with cwm but its very old. I didnt see any error messages so maybe it is too big. i do only have like 10gb of free space. maybe the reason my nandroid was so big is because of my google play music? (isnt the offline music saved as data for the app?)
Should i delete everything and try to restore the nandroid?
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I made the back up with twrp. I think i do have a back up with cwm but its very old. I didnt see any error messages so maybe it is too big. i do only have like 10gb of free space. maybe the reason my nandroid was so big is because of my google play music? (isnt the offline music saved as data for the app?)
Should i delete everything and try to restore the nandroid?
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ahh.. google music, makes sense. it could possibly be that you dont have enough space.
simms22 said:
ahh.. google music, makes sense. it could possibly be that you dont have enough space.
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Do you have a galaxy nexus also? what should i delete to free up some space?
I think the offline music is saved in the "sdcard" location that isn't normally part of a nandroid backup. Clean that up for sure.
Try cleaning up as much space as possible on the internal while leaving the backup intact. If you have at least 6 GB free the restore should go fine.
Plan B: Titanium Backup Pro allows you to open a nandroid backup and restore apps with app data.
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cmstlist said:
I think the offline music is saved in the "sdcard" location that isn't normally part of a nandroid backup. Clean that up for sure.
Try cleaning up as much space as possible on the internal while leaving the backup intact. If you have at least 6 GB free the restore should go fine.
Plan B: Titanium Backup Pro allows you to open a nandroid backup and restore apps with app data.
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I currently have about 14.51GB of space free out of 28.13GB. the backup still didnt restore my data. I guess im going to have to try the titanium back up pro. which sucks because i dont want to really buy the pro version.
simms22 said:
sounds like before you made the nandroid backup you didnt checkmark to backup the data partion. it wont back it up unless you tell it to. whats the size of your backup?
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Should cache be selected too when making nandroid backups?
hotboyray said:
Should cache be selected too when making nandroid backups?
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No, cache has nothing to do with restoring apps+data.