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Need Help Setting the EVO 3D Folks Straight!

So as a prior EVO 3D owner as well as owning only HTC smartphones since the PPC-6600 I was convinced that HTC made the best devices around. One thing that convinced me this was all the HTC fanboys I guess. They were always the first to say Samsung phones suck, they are cheap, they break, you never want to own a Samsung.
Well after about 7 or 8 years I decided to try a Samsung device, the E4GT and by far this device has better build quality then any HTC phone I have ever owned. The best thing I ever did was give this phone a shot and it has turned me into an Samsung fan and made me realize that it is HTC devices that have the terrible build quality.
So as a former EVO 3D owner I like to visit that section of XDA and see what people say, it is also a great section to find out what new things are coming out, lol. So once again there is a thread comparing the E4GT to the EVO 3D and of course the HTC fanboys are always trash talking our device and how it is cheap and Samsung sucks, blah blah blah...
The reason why this bothers me is because people who are on the fence or thinking about switching to a Samsung device might not because of all the lies that HTC fanboys spread and unfortunelty a lot of people will follow what others say in those threads. So maybe some of us who know the truth can spill it over there and help some of those people branch out.
The best thing I ever did was purchase the E4GT because now I realize how a phone should be made and perform.
The thread is below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472380
Let's get some truth in it!

I sold my EVO 3D that I bought on launch date and switch to the E4GT and I could not be happier. My reason for switching was that the camera on EVO 3D sucked big time and I was also getting tired of the brick weight feel in my pocket. Also no matter what rom or kernel I put on it always felt somewhat laggy compared to a stock E4GT.
The only thing I miss a little is the massive community support that the EVO series phones have and seeing new roms posted like everyday.
Other than that, I'm extremely happy with my E4GT and in my my honest opinion its simply a better phone!

If someone is only looking in that particular thread, then they probably was leaning more toward an HTC device than any other anyways. It's just opinions really. I'm sure if that same thread was here but HTC vs Samsung, then people here would be biased against HTC phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22000316&postcount=19

AngelMayLaugh said:
If someone is only looking in that particular thread, then they probably was leaning more toward an HTC device than any other anyways. It's just opinions really. I'm sure if that same thread was here but HTC vs Samsung, then people here would be biased against HTC phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22000316&postcount=19
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To tell you the truth, until I owned the E4GT I never looked in a Samsung thread. Why would I? It was confirmed from all the HTC owners that they are made out of cheap plastic, don't ever upgrade their software, break all the time and have terrible radios and gps.

I own both phones. They are both great in my opinion. I think this Samsung is a little nicer than my 3d though.
I like the larger screen.
My 3d now feels small
I don't like the 3d camera or the quiet external speaker.
I thought development for the Samsung was through the roof, then i realized that there are many variations of the sgs2 and our development is behind the Evo3D, which is still behind my original Evo4G.

Rob the plumber said:
I own both phones. They are both great in my opinion. I think this Samsung is a little nicer than my 3d though.
I like the larger screen.
My 3d now feels small
I don't like the 3d camera or the quiet external speaker.
I thought development for the Samsung was through the roof, then i realized that there are many variations of the sgs2 and our development is behind the Evo3D, which is still behind my original Evo4G.
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I'm in your boat, I have both devices now, and I end up loving my Samsung because it just works well. The camera is beautiful, the phone itself flies, and the screen is awesome.
I do miss the dev community from HTC, but this is the first device where I've just kept a stock rooted rom, and enjoyed it.
Oh, and the 3Vo can't take pictures like this: http://i.imgur.com/yL2lN.jpg

I own both.
Gotta say:
The build quality of the EVO 3D FAR surpasses the build of the ET4G.
(Sorry, but that's just true right there.)
I LOVE my ET4G, and I use it 90% of the time, but it's not even in the same ballpark as far as an equally "quality" device as the 3d...(or the OG Evo4G for that matter...).
Example of what I mean:
If you turned both phones off, and had no idea about the processors inside, etc., and were judging the two devices on "inherent worth", ie: "I wonder how much THIS smartphone retails for?", I'd think that 100 people out of 100 would assume that the Evo3d costs a LOT more....
It's built like a beautiful little brick.
(Not in a bad way.)
(Not talking performance-wise, and discarding the fact that it was overly hyped: all that stuff aside, the EVO3D IS one beautiful piece of technology, IMHO.)
["hip", "hip"]

Op there is no point in hitting fanboys with facts. Don't get me wrong I used to be a big HTC fanboy that was pissed at Samsung over previous phones including the moment and OGEpic. Now after the ETGS2 I just don't think the same arguments can be made about this phone. We are getting updates regularly. LOS was allready nipped in the butt. Our screen has received more positive reviews when compared to the EVO3d. Matter of fact our phone as a whole has recieved way more positive reviews compared to the EVO3d. But the HTC fanboys will never acknowledge this because of their hate for Samsung.
I been to the thread and I think its hopeless trying to compare facts against pure heresay.
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I forgot to mention how the ET4g has also received critic rave reviews when it comes to camera.

Coming from all the the evo devices, the epic series is much better.
Sense is one bloated, slow, inefficient, fugly monster.

IMO the OG EVO was a revolutionary phone. It was steps beyond the competition when it came out. This is when HTC got lots of its fans. I've been using HTC back since the PPC-6600 days. They used to be higher quality, then in the touch pro days they became iffy, then TP2 was ok again. Evo was great, but being a powerful phone back then, you needed to tweak it a lot to get decent battery.
After EVO, for some reason HTC took a turn for the worse. They started putting out phones with more questionable signal reception. Evo Shift and Evo 3D have worse reception than EVO. They started being more strict about locked bootloaders. Yes you can work around it, but they just made it more of a hassle.
Early Samsung Android phones just sucked. Transform was horrible. OG Epic was constantly last to get software. Few developers wanted to touch it because of the keyboard and WiMax made ports too annoying. HTC does have tons of developers, but IMO they are slowly migrating away due to HTC policies.
Samsung E4GT is just a really nice phone out of the box. It works pretty fast, very little lag, and has decent battery life even if you don't do anything to it. That is why it is more appealing to the masses. They just want a phone that works w/o needing to be a custom rom genius. That is why Apple sells so many iPhones.
If you are a resolution freak, then Evo 3d has a sharper screen, but if you enjoy richness of the picture then E4GT has a much nicer screen. Your blacks are actually black instead of muddy black. The color contrast is excellent. It is like the plasma vs LCD debate. You look at plasmas in the bright showroom and they don't impress against super bright LCDs. You bring it home to normal lighting and you notice it just looks so much better in the dark scenes.
The nice thing about HTC is they usually use the latest chipsets so you get Qualcomm's latest innovations.
That just my opinion.

mazook98 said:
I own both.
Gotta say:
The build quality of the EVO 3D FAR surpasses the build of the ET4G.
(Sorry, but that's just true right there.)
I LOVE my ET4G, and I use it 90% of the time, but it's not even in the same ballpark as far as an equally "quality" device as the 3d...(or the OG Evo4G for that matter...).
Example of what I mean:
If you turned both phones off, and had no idea about the processors inside, etc., and were judging the two devices on "inherent worth", ie: "I wonder how much THIS smartphone retails for?", I'd think that 100 people out of 100 would assume that the Evo3d costs a LOT more....
It's built like a beautiful little brick.
(Not in a bad way.)
(Not talking performance-wise, and discarding the fact that it was overly hyped: all that stuff aside, the EVO3D IS one beautiful piece of technology, IMHO.)
["hip", "hip"]
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Zook, that is the worst scenario to judge a phone for build quality. Tilted screens, light leakage, dead pixels, terrible camera button, and the list goes on and on.....Just picking up a phone is not a way to judge. Why would I want my SGS2 to weigh as much as a brick. Why would I want it to be as thick as a brick? If that qualifies a better build quality then I hope Samsung continues to build cheap phones like the SGS2!
I expected better from you.....

I have long been an HTC fanboy. I had the G1 and then the Eris. I had a brief run-in with a Blackberry Storm, but quickly went back to the Eris. I then switched back to T-Mobile and the HD7. This was a beautiful running and looking phone IMHO. The only thing lacking that I desperately needed was an SD card slot so I could run my go-pro recordings on it from the street for "bicycle safety" purposes in case I needed to show evidence to police. I ride a bicycle a lot! So I decided to upgrade to a Sensation and loved it. Worked well until it broke and they wanted another 100+ to fix it:-( I decided that instead of paying that I would go to Sprint and try the 3d knowing it would be similar to the Sensation. I ordered it and went to the store to check out the cases. It was then I realized my mistake. The Epic Touch was beautiful! Again, this was my opinion When the 3d came in, I decided I would give it a try anyway...I didn't know what I was thinking. As soon as I turned it on, I was tired of it all... The screen not being completely white, the Sense that I had loved forever, the 3d(gave me a headache)...none of it I liked anymore. I took it back and replaced it for the Epic Touch and haven't looked back since. Thinking about it now, I used to argue that HTC made tough phones, but I broke half of them. That Eris was a tough phone and still resides in the hands of a teenager without a case on it My favorite feature on the E4gT is the AllShare. I recently put a movie on my phone, went to a friends house, and watched it on his Samsung Blue-Ray player. Very cool!!

This would be perfect:
An Epictouch4g built by HTC, but usinng screensize, camera, and the processors from Samsung's spec sheet. I'd pay full retail for that right now ...
["hip", "hip"]

I had tried different HTC phones in the past but they always felt cheaply built to me. Mind you my favorite phone ever was the Palm Treo 755p, a very sturdy phone.
Then I went with the Pre, and then the Pixi before trying the Nexus S, which I didn't like so I got the OG EVO 4G and loved it, truly, but I'm a gadget freak and so when the EVO 3D came out I got it, yeah I bought the hype. It was faster than the OG EVO but that's where the joy ended.
I was instantly sorry I had traded off my OG EVO, the 3D just felt all wrong. It was slightly taller and slightly more narrow (you wouldn't think it noticeable) so it should've been better for small hands, but I hated the feel of it. As for the 3D, I never caught on to why it was so awesome, I mean you can only share your cool photos/videos with others who have 3D so what's the point?
Needless to say when the E4GT came out I couldn't get rid of my 3D fast enough. The feel of this phone is just so much nicer, performance has been smoother and while I do miss some parts of sense (loved the live current weather thingie) I'm happy with my E4GT, I have it stock-rooted but no custom ROMs yet. I look forward to ICS but I'd never trade off my E4GT for a Nexus just to get ICS sooner.

mazook98 said:
This would be perfect:
An Epictouch4g built by HTC, but usinng screensize, camera, and the processors from Samsung's spec sheet. I'd pay full retail for that right now ...
["hip", "hip"]
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So another words you would trade a perfectly built phone for a phone with build quality problems? Doesn't make sense...You still haven't listed a build quality issue on the E4GT so not sure what it is you feel the need to change.
You can always strap your phone onto a brick if that you make your feel better...

@estoeric ^^this, the Evo3d was disappointing, that was a messed up POS. Ive had horrible experience with Samsung smartphones in the past. I was kind of iffy about the sgs2. But since all the bugs were fixed with prompt updates, I have no complaints.

[email protected] said:
Zook, that is the worst scenario to judge a phone for build quality. Tilted screens, light leakage, dead pixels, terrible camera button, and the list goes on and on.....Just picking up a phone is not a way to judge. Why would I want my SGS2 to weigh as much as a brick. Why would I want it to be as thick as a brick? If that qualifies a better build quality then I hope Samsung continues to build cheap phones like the SGS2!
I expected better from you.....
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Haha:
I never had any of those issues with my 3d..(though I know some people did.)
Also: I LIKE a heavy phone:
To me, it just "feels better" in my hands, and the weight helps me keep a firm grip on it: ensuring that the buttons are always where I think they are...
I STILL have a problem hitting the dang volume rocker buttons on my ET4G because its lightweightedness makes it a little squirrelly in my hands from time to time.
Of course, that's just me, and I've noticed that even the newest HTC phones are getting lighter and lighter....sigh.
EDIT: AND I would take that camera button in a heartbeat.
TL;DR:
"My name is mazook98 I like HTC's heavy-assed phones. This is my first meeting."
["hip", "hip"]

[email protected] said:
So another words you would trade a perfectly built phone for a phone with build quality problems? Doesn't make sense...You still haven't listed a build quality issue on the E4GT so not sure what it is you feel the need to change.
You can always strap your phone onto a brick if that you make your feel better...
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My ONLY issues are that it's too light, and it needed some more metal. That's it:
*Like I said, I LOVE the phone, and I use it 90% of the time.
["hip", "hip"]

The quality really isn't better either way. I read about cheap Samsung plastic but this phone doesn't feel cheap at all and can withstand drops and bumps just as well as the 3d.
The only difference with a metal chassis is weight. Dropping a phone has little impact on the chassis it affects the case, and both use plastic cases
Otherwise this phones screen, processor, battery, cameras, and just about everything else are better.
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I also would love a dedicated camera button.

1st impression on gnex coming from an ip4

Hello XDA.
The gnex is my 1st android phone and I'm pretty excited to start tweaking it out.
I am coming from a previous generation ip4.
I am mainly switching because I am grandfathered in to Tmo Tzones and iphones don't support Tmo 3g bands, only edge.
My micro-sim adapter will arrive later today so I haven't put my sim in yet, but I've been just playing w/ ICS and inspecting the the unit itself.
Just some thoughts below.
The overall weight is pretty light, but not so light that it feels too cheap. Its ok. Materials are whatever, I guess I've been spoiled with the ip4 metal and glass.
The battery door feels cheap, but when its on you can't really tell so its not a big deal, and also I rather have a removable battery than not.
In terms of size I really like it, ip4 was just too small to browse or watch videos on. Gnex is a bit bigger but I am still able to easily handle it and use with only one hand. Still fits in the front pocket of fitted pants easily as well since its slim.
The slight curve is pretty nice, but I don't like how the whole phone is not symmetrical in thickness.
So yea, fit and finish is mediocre. Ip4 is a cut above the rest in terms of design and materials, but the gnex is a good size and still feels of decent quality in the hand overall so I'm ok with it.
ICS is nice. Pretty intuitive and easy to pick up.
No previous android experience to compare, and I'm still on the dated ios4, but it takes a few apps from cydia for the ip4 to be about where ICS is in terms of options and control out of the box. I can only imagine my options after rooting.
The os feels pretty quick and snappy, but its not as smooth as ios. Ios feels very liquid, while android feels choppy.
Things load quick, but the overall system just doesn't feel as polished.
I didn't fiddle with much, skimmed the apps and browsed settings. I did play with the camera a little. Quality is good enough for a phone camera and I really like how it snaps shots very quickly.
Overall stock system is ok, but I like android. I'm glad for the potential to tweak the phone more and can't wait to mess with it. I hope custom roms run smoother than the stock ics.
Now for my main gripe with this phone.
The screen. I am very underwhelmed.
Right when I opened the phone settings I could see a lot of funky banding on the grey background on all brightness settings.
Viewing angles are also pretty bad. Bluish green tint shows only after a bit less than 30 degrees off center from any angle.
Then I opened up the browser. The whites have issues. Brightness on max is acceptable, but anything else and it gets grainy and ugly. No uniformity.
I don't notice obvious pixelation, but browsing text and everything just looks softer and not as crisp. I felt like I was reading a newspaper haha.
Looked at some photos I snapped. Color representation is very off with this screen. Pics do pop more from the contrast when the brightness is up high though. Luckily the screen falls on the warmer side of things so its easy on my eyes.
What I do like a lot is the blacks are black even on max brightness, compared to the ip4 which has washed out blacks on high brightness.
I also like the slightly higher resolution and bigger screen size of course.
I'm a bit dated on my display tech so I did not know what to expect with the pentile amoled.
It definitely can not live up to apple's "retina" standard. Apples screen looks crystal even if you put your nose up to it.
The 1/3 less sub pixels using pentile really ruins things. Ppi really is probably effectively 200ish and not 300+ as the gnex claims on paper.
Pentile amoled seems very low quality to me. Maybe amoled in general. It has all the issues of a cheap TN lcd panel. Inaccurate colors, bad viewing angle, no screen uniformity. The pluses being extremely deep blacks and good contrast.
If you run your monitors on high brightness the screen might be acceptable, but if not its pretty bad. Unfortunately I run all my screens on very low brightness.
Mind you my monitors and tvs are calibrated and color accuracy matters to me. The ip4s ips screen does very well in this regard. Colors are very natural and also viewing angles are great, typical of ips screens. Its also brighter at max than the gnex and dimmer at min. I have to say the ip4s display is leaps above the gnex in terms of quality. Only down fall is the washed out blacks.
If you are coming from ip4 or spend most of your time on ips/pva displays etc the gnex screen will most likely be a let down.
If you haven't owned an ip4 and don't know what tech your monitor is or dont care then you will most likely be very happy with the gnex screen, just don't put it side by side an iphone 4 or you will notice issues you won't be able to remove from your brain.
For $400 + tax I can't really complain. I'm getting a lot from the phone, but its definitely not a steal of a deal. Samsung cut quite a few corners, the pentile amoled display being the most regrettable for me.
I currently have a docomo version from amazon, but will return it soon after my warrantied google one arrives. I will compare the two. I hope the next one's screen is better.
I'll stick with the gnex despite my gripes since I want to play with android, its got great dev support and its one of the best tzones compatible phone currently, but I am not as thrilled since receiving the phone.
Probably will move on to the sg3 asap if it works on my plan. They better get it right on that phone.

See this is what I have been wondering... have you had any issues so far? I am an iPhone convert as well but I went for the DROID RAZR on verizon and I love it... I was considering trying to get a GN but Im hesitant

There are a lot of threads and posts on defective units with screen issues to what you describe. There is a very likely chance you simply had a defective unit.
When you get the new one and compare, post again. I'm curious. Mine should be in today and I'm worried I'd get one with the screen issues as well.
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vv13 said:
If you are coming from ip4 or spend most of your time on ips/pva displays etc the gnex screen will most likely be a let down.
If you haven't owned an ip4 and don't know what tech your monitor is or dont care then you will most likely be very happy with the gnex screen, just don't put it side by side an iphone 4 or you will notice issues you won't be able to remove from your brain.
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I understand your frustrations. However, there are quite a few users on here coming from an iphone 4s who feel the GNex was a step-up in what Android can offer vs iOS. The Nexus series is aimed at development as well, so take that in to regard while Apple's Iphone is aimed at every consumer in the world wanting a general smartphone.
Android blows iOS out of the water in terms of customization and powerfulness because of it's open-source nature - the sky is the limit here.
To tell people that the GNex will be a let-down coming from an iphone 4 is just your opinion and that's all it is. You failed to mention some of the intuitiveness of both platforms. Where's the back button on iOS? On android it's the SAME spot for EVERY app. How easy is it to share content on iOS? On android, you can literally share ANYTHING easily. I think the issue with your mini-review here is that you've been way too accustomed to iOS, so everything now seems inferior to you. I myself have used an iPhone to begin with and then switched to Android later on and will never go back.
Does the iphone support USB on the go? HDMI out? Wifi Direct? NFC? Launcher widgets w/ live data? NOPE!

I'd really like to try one out but this RAZR is good too...
Sent from my DROID RAZR

I have had 3 Galaxy nexus units and two of them had horrible screens with banding and other scratchy textures on the screen (almost like a creased newspaper at low brightness). Luckily, the one I kept has a perfect screen. It has zero banding and perfect uniformity even at 0% brightness. It also doesn't have any tint/hue issues. The other two units had bluish/purpleish whites as the brightness decreased, this one stays pure white.
Basically, they are not all as bad as you describe. But in my personal experience (2 out of 3), most units have pretty crappy screens. This can be attributed to Samsung's quality control, or lack thereof. I don't think the flagship Google phone should go out with any of display the issues you describe, but apparently they do. Personally, I wouldn't settle for it (and didn't). Exchange your phone if you can because there are units out there with perfect screens.

matesims23 said:
See this is what I have been wondering... have you had any issues so far? I am an iPhone convert as well but I went for the DROID RAZR on verizon and I love it... I was considering trying to get a GN but Im hesitant
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I've only had the phone very briefly, but so far no other issues other than what was stated about the screen.
No major os lag, random shut offs, screen retention, pop noises or anything like that.
The phone does heat up though a bit more than the ip4, and it can be easily felt through the cheap cover. Nothing else really.
Overall the gnex is fine, just my expectations of the screen were set pretty high considering so many touted the display of the phone as one of its strongpoints.
It does not help that i came from the ip4.
Still a fully loaded phone with all specs premium. Just not bleeding edge tech or fancy materials. All for $400 no contract is fair.
Unless you're the cultish type that wants a pure android experience need ics or a google phone whatever, there really is no reason I see to leave the razr.

uoY_redruM said:
There are a lot of threads and posts on defective units with screen issues to what you describe. There is a very likely chance you simply had a defective unit.
When you get the new one and compare, post again. I'm curious. Mine should be in today and I'm worried I'd get one with the screen issues as well.
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Yes I definitely will, but after reading up on pentile amoled tech, a lot of these issues mentioned are traits of the technology. I hope on the next phone they are not as severe though.

akira02rex said:
I understand your frustrations. However, there are quite a few users on here coming from an iphone 4s who feel the GNex was a step-up in what Android can offer vs iOS. The Nexus series is aimed at development as well, so take that in to regard while Apple's Iphone is aimed at every consumer in the world wanting a general smartphone.
Android blows iOS out of the water in terms of customization and powerfulness because of it's open-source nature - the sky is the limit here.
To tell people that the GNex will be a let-down coming from an iphone 4 is just your opinion and that's all it is. You failed to mention some of the intuitiveness of both platforms. Where's the back button on iOS? On android it's the SAME spot for EVERY app. How easy is it to share content on iOS? On android, you can literally share ANYTHING easily. I think the issue with your mini-review here is that you've been way too accustomed to iOS, so everything now seems inferior to you. I myself have used an iPhone to begin with and then switched to Android later on and will never go back.
Does the iphone support USB on the go? HDMI out? Wifi Direct? NFC? Launcher widgets w/ live data? NOPE!
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I think you have misinterpreted my let down comment as its only in reference to the screens and not the gnex vs ip4 as a whole.
And have become a bit overly defensive for reasons I'm not sure why.
Regardless, you are right about everything only being a person's opinion.
Other than that we are on the same plane.
I am not for apple's dumbed down os. I am also against them making everything proprietary and putting things on lockdown.
The ip4 is actually my only apple owned product since I just loved the design too much.
As you can see, my initial post says I am thrilled to root and and can't wait to play with what android has to offer.

akira02rex said:
I understand your frustrations. However, there are quite a few users on here coming from an iphone 4s who feel the GNex was a step-up in what Android can offer vs iOS. The Nexus series is aimed at development as well, so take that in to regard while Apple's Iphone is aimed at every consumer in the world wanting a general smartphone.
Android blows iOS out of the water in terms of customization and powerfulness because of it's open-source nature - the sky is the limit here.
To tell people that the GNex will be a let-down coming from an iphone 4 is just your opinion and that's all it is. You failed to mention some of the intuitiveness of both platforms. Where's the back button on iOS? On android it's the SAME spot for EVERY app. How easy is it to share content on iOS? On android, you can literally share ANYTHING easily. I think the issue with your mini-review here is that you've been way too accustomed to iOS, so everything now seems inferior to you. I myself have used an iPhone to begin with and then switched to Android later on and will never go back.
Does the iphone support USB on the go? HDMI out? Wifi Direct? NFC? Launcher widgets w/ live data? NOPE!
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This person said it correct. If your comming from ios, you should get another phone thats aimed at every day consumers, this phone was made for ppl who want to take control and like he said the sky is the limit with android.

ra990 said:
I have had 3 Galaxy nexus units and two of them had horrible screens with banding and other scratchy textures on the screen (almost like a creased newspaper at low brightness). Luckily, the one I kept has a perfect screen. It has zero banding and perfect uniformity even at 0% brightness. It also doesn't have any tint/hue issues. The other two units had bluish/purpleish whites as the brightness decreased, this one stays pure white.
Basically, they are not all as bad as you describe. But in my personal experience (2 out of 3), most units have pretty crappy screens. This can be attributed to Samsung's quality control, or lack thereof. I don't think the flagship Google phone should go out with any of display the issues you describe, but apparently they do. Personally, I wouldn't settle for it (and didn't). Exchange your phone if you can because there are units out there with perfect screens.
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Thats good news.
Would you mind sharing the specifics of your phones build and origin etc..

cheddaface said:
This person said it correct. If your comming from ios, you should get another phone thats aimed at every day consumers, this phone was made for ppl who want to take control and like he said the sky is the limit with android.
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You are right if the person was content with ios as a whole.
vv13 said:
No previous android experience to compare, and I'm still on the dated ios4, but it takes a few apps from cydia for the ip4 to be about where ICS is in terms of options and control out of the box. I can only imagine my options after rooting.
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vv13 said:
Overall stock system is ok, but I like android. I'm glad for the potential to tweak the phone more and can't wait to mess with it. I hope custom roms run smoother than the stock ics.
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vv13 said:
I'll stick with the gnex despite my gripes since I want to play with android, its got great dev support and its one of the best tzones compatible phone currently, but I am not as thrilled since receiving the phone.
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That from my first post should hint to you what I am aiming for.
Remember I've only had this phone a few days and have not yet had the chance to break the surface, hence this thread being only a 1st impression, Not a full fledged review

Return your unit. I already played with 4 GNexus including mine and none have this issues, and the viewing angles are great. The screen is awesome. My friend changed the iPhone 4 for a GNexus and love the screen.

vv13 said:
Thats good news.
Would you mind sharing the specifics of your phones build and origin etc..
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Sure, it is a Jan 2012 build, does not say Made in xxx anywhere on it, just says made by Samsung (someone said that means Korea, but I'm not sure). The other ones I had both said Made in China. I got mine new from Amazon.com (came from a seller named abe-123, order fulfilled by Amazon). It had 4.0.2 build on it (not sure if YAKJU or not, I flashed latest image as soon as I got it). Let me know if you want to know anything else.

I applaud the OP for his opinion from a neutral standpoint. Welcome to the family. I've had my Nexus since late December and was one of the 'lucky' ones that got a near perfect screen on the first go. Like others have said, there is a very broad spectrum ranging from near perfect to absolutely terrible.
I recommend going over this thread if you haven't already when your new unit arrives:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1394358

akira02rex said:
I understand your frustrations. However, there are quite a few users on here coming from an iphone 4s who feel the GNex was a step-up in what Android can offer vs iOS. The Nexus series is aimed at development as well, so take that in to regard while Apple's Iphone is aimed at every consumer in the world wanting a general smartphone.
Android blows iOS out of the water in terms of customization and powerfulness because of it's open-source nature - the sky is the limit here.
To tell people that the GNex will be a let-down coming from an iphone 4 is just your opinion and that's all it is. You failed to mention some of the intuitiveness of both platforms. Where's the back button on iOS? On android it's the SAME spot for EVERY app. How easy is it to share content on iOS? On android, you can literally share ANYTHING easily. I think the issue with your mini-review here is that you've been way too accustomed to iOS, so everything now seems inferior to you. I myself have used an iPhone to begin with and then switched to Android later on and will never go back.
Does the iphone support USB on the go? HDMI out? Wifi Direct? NFC? Launcher widgets w/ live data? NOPE!
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Jesus. No need to be so defensive. Android is not your girlfriend. Everything he said is true and they are issues Google needs to work out if they want Android to grow as a platform. While smoothness has increased since gingerbread, the fact of the matter is it is still a step behind when it comes to smoothness.
And lets get dispelled that notion that gnex flaws can be disregarded because it is a development phone. Yes, the gnex is intended to be the test bed for Android software. But that doesn't mean that Google doesn't intend to sell every last phone they have to the end user or that they didn't design it with the intent for the majority of users to use the phone like the average consumer.
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Lmao you guys get so fighting about it. I have an iphone 4s and a Gnex so far rocking the galaxy one because I like the OS but is hard to let go the iphone 4S I could probably get 450$ easy for my iphone but I'm no gonna sell it till I'm 100% sure at this moment is a 50% 50% . Specially when it comes to music. I go to the gym 3-5 times at week and the galaxy nexus with beats audio don't sound right . Any recommendations ? And maybe an app that can make the controller on the beats audiowork
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I think I might try it out
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Lmao you guys get so fighting about it. I have an iphone 4s and a Gnex so far rocking the galaxy one because I like the OS but is hard to let go the iphone 4S I could probably get 450$ easy for my iphone but I'm no gonna sell it till I'm 100% sure at this moment is a 50% 50% . Specially when it comes to music. I go to the gym 3-5 times at week and the galaxy nexus with beats audio don't sound right . Any recommendations ? And maybe an app that can make the controller on the beats audiowork
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I just came from evo3d with beats audio and i also hit the gym about 4-5 days a week and it worked great on my 3d but i would love it on my nexus but it dosent work??

Well, I hope the one I ordered today doesn't have any issues with the screen!

[Q] When should I buy?

Hey fam,
I'm looking to buy a new phone to replace my droid charge. The DC has been really pissing me off lately: lag, massive battery drain, you name it. Anyways I want to buy a new phone since one of the lines in my family plan is up for an upgrade.
My first question is-- How reliable is the Gnex? My DC is the first android device I've owned, and to be honest I've debated going back to an iPhone for some more reliability.
Second question-- When/where should I buy a Gnex? I checked online retailers and I could get one now for $150, but that's a little much for me. I'd be willing to buy a refurb if that is recommended.
Thanks!

i bought mine on released day. for me, i made a wrong decision.
bad battery life
too plastic and feel too light, making it feel cheap.
not much of change from gingerbread
the camera senor isnt that great on low light, but on a sunny day, it's awesome.
if i can return my gn now, i will jump to 4s. but i cant, so, i am waiting for iphone 5.

The Verizon version is not good, the GSM version is a lot better.
My battery lasts a whole day with 4.5 hours screen on time.
It is made of plastic but it doesn't feel low quality.
A HUGE difference over gingerbread.
Camera is fine.
Try use one before you buy and see what you think.
I wouldn't swap it for any other phone.
Development is unrivalled.

zeke1988 said:
i bought mine on released day. for me, i made a wrong decision.
bad battery life
too plastic and feel too light, making it feel cheap.
not much of change from gingerbread
the camera senor isnt that great on low light, but on a sunny day, it's awesome.
if i can return my gn now, i will jump to 4s. but i cant, so, i am waiting for iphone 5.
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5 hours screen on time for me, you had the CDMA version which isn't as good on battery.
I like the plastic, I hate having a heavy phone, such as the iPhone. Its screen is 3.5 inches, yet it feels like a brick. Also, the lighter, the less damage is done when dropped.
HUGE change from Gingerbread, what are you on? Froyo to GB wasn't a big change, GB to ICS is HUGE. Seriously.
This is subjective, overall phone cameras aren't good on low light situations.
TL;DR: Get it. Then flash AOKP+Franco, and you'l be teleported to a new world.

This is the best phone on the market right now. I'm not giving it up until there is a new nexus.
Mind you I'm on gsm version.
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zeke1988 said:
i bought mine on released day. for me, i made a wrong decision.
bad battery life
too plastic and feel too light, making it feel cheap.
not much of change from gingerbread
the camera senor isnt that great on low light, but on a sunny day, it's awesome.
if i can return my gn now, i will jump to 4s. but i cant, so, i am waiting for iphone 5.
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Some members have problems with the Verizon version, which is the one the OP would be getting.
Not everyone is an iTroll though, and not everyone has problems with their Verizon version. You have to be legally blind to not see "much of a change" from gingerbread.

[Sprint] - Time for upgrade. GSIII a worthy upgrade? Or hold off...

I am due for an upgrade, now. I am coming from an OG EVO. I have not been keeping up with phones lately. Obviously this is a GSIII sub forum, so I am expecting biased answers. I asked a few other places as well.

Check out a couple of in depth reviews.
If your going Android. (which i presume is why you asked) you will not find a better device. The only one that comes close would be the HTC ONE X, But no expandable memory, removeable battery, etc.
http://reviews.cnet.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-review/

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I am due for an upgrade, now. I am coming from an OG EVO. I have not been keeping up with phones lately. Obviously this is a GSIII sub forum, so I am expecting biased answers. I asked a few other places as well.
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Depends on your preferences... the two obvious choices would be the GSIII or Evo 4g Lte...
I used the Evo for a few days before getting the GSIII and the deciding factor was pretty much the poor multi tasking and the lack of a removable battery on the Evo. It does boast a superior display imo and a slightly better camera. I find I'm getting the same battery life on my GSIII probably a little more. I would suggest going to a store and use both for a few minutes, you should be somewhat familiar with HTC sense but Touchwiz isn't that horrible.
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Iphony89 said:
Depends on your preferences... the two obvious choices would be the GSIII or Evo 4g Lte...
I used the Evo for a few days before getting the GSIII and the deciding factor was pretty much the poor multi tasking and the lack of a removable battery on the Evo. It does boast a superior display imo and a slightly better camera. I find I'm getting the same battery life on my GSIII probably a little more. I would suggest going to a store and use both for a few minutes, you should be somewhat familiar with HTC sense but Touchwiz isn't that horrible.
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I thought the Galaxy line was notorious for having AWESOME screens. You're telling me that the EVO LTE's LCD2 is actually slightly better?
How do these screens compare to the Iphone 4s?

I don't own a GSIII..I'm really just here to see how LTE is looking for GSIII users in Dallas. I own a EVO LTE and here's what I got for ya
iphony is right . Multitasking is a little off...meaning, you go from the browser to the music app and the music app reloads. Go back to the browser and the browser reloads. Kinda annoying. The update for the phone kinda fixed it but not really.
Dev scene isn't as great so you're really gonna have to be satisfied for how the phone is right off the ****. The devs have managed to fix the multitasking issue but I don't know to what extent. I'm still on stock and I'm happy with it.
The screen is pretty damn sweet. I came from an iPhone 4S and I haven't really noticed a difference. Still seems like a retina display to me, just a bigger screen.
The big plus for me is the beats audio EQ...because that EQ plus switching the beats audio mode to urBeats puts the audio quality on par with the iPhone. Audio sounds real good.
Other than those things...you'll probably get the same experience. It all comes down to the little things the phones do that you like- so you're really just gonna have to play with both them.
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I thought the Galaxy line was notorious for having AWESOME screens. You're telling me that the EVO LTE's LCD2 is actually slightly better?
How do these screens compare to the Iphone 4s?
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I saw you posted this a minute or so before mine so I'll just repeat what I wrote..
going from the 4s to the EVO...it felt exactly the same. It seems just like the retina display..the only difference I can see with my eye is screen size. So it's pretty much a bigger iPhone 4s screen. It's gorgeous. Unfortunately I have my phone in an otterbox so the quality is degraded
And another thing about the screens...
The 4s, idk what it uses for its screen, but you don't need a screen protector. There is 0 smudging...it's like it cleans itself or something. The EVO 4G LTE is not like that. idk about the GSIII...I've yet to get my hands on one.

jhoffy22 said:
I thought the Galaxy line was notorious for having AWESOME screens. You're telling me that the EVO LTE's LCD2 is actually slightly better?
How do these screens compare to the Iphone 4s?
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The screens are both great, the screen on the evo just stands out more to me, while the GSIII has a more natural looking colors. That being said I went with the GSIII because it's a better overall phone and I tend to prefer Samsung phones, but a few things on the Evo did make it a hard decision.
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jhoffy22 said:
I thought the Galaxy line was notorious for having AWESOME screens. You're telling me that the EVO LTE's LCD2 is actually slightly better?
How do these screens compare to the Iphone 4s?
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The S III uses a pentile display, meaning images aren't as sharp as the Evo's and you'll see some pixelation or the "pentile effect" if you have good eyes. The E4GLE's display has warmer and more "realistic" colors than the S III's "saturated" and cooler colors. It's also a little sharper and you can't see the pixels, or at least I couldn't. I also found that the S III's screen was a lot dimmer in sunlight than the Evo's.
That said, I still stuck with my S III because of the massive development that will happen in the coming months.

As for the iPhone comparison you would have to get that from someone else, not my cup of tea.:beer:
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The EVO LTE screen is sharper but the GS3 has all the benefits of amoled displays (darker blacks, beautiful colors). The EVO LTE is also going to be hard to put custom software (roms) on because it's bootloader is locked and any exploits are patched.
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jhoffy22 said:
I thought the Galaxy line was notorious for having AWESOME screens. You're telling me that the EVO LTE's LCD2 is actually slightly better?
How do these screens compare to the Iphone 4s?
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Love my gs3...but screens...lmao...
LCD kicks any version of amoleds ass all day long.
You can make the "oooh but the blacks are so much better ...." well that's great but everything else is garbage.
Don't get me wrong performance wise the gs3 is full of win, and fanboys will start whining how they like the galaxy screens, but there's not even a fair comparison as the lcd2 is far superior to any Samsung screen.
The fact of the matter is the htc rezound STILL has the best screen of any of any phone on the market. Slcd2 screen of the 1x comes close.
Sammy is so far behind in screen technology its ... strange.
BUT I will say the gs3 is a different and refined version of the samoled screens and its tolerable.
People who say the gs3 screen is better don't have a clue, and obviously its merely a personal preference, and not based on facts.
S-amoled(yes even pluss) is VERY saturated, whites are just omg horrible.
Also this gives the false pretense of how your images are from the camera.( which btw is neck and neck with one x)
BUT the pros out weigh the cons and the gs3 IMO is the best phone on the market.
If htc ups the aentie , which it appears they might I will probably go back.
But .... its iffy.
No removable battery
No removable storage...
Deal breaker for me
I really like having tons of development, and everyone here is pretty cool. Although I'm sure ill be called a troll for my truth about the screen FACTS. RRAAWWWRRRR!!!!
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Get the gs3!
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Much to the dismay of the salesperson I spent literally two hours playing with the Evo 4G and the SGS3 side-by-side at the local Sprint store a week or so ago, and this after reading every review and comparison I could find. Choosing between the two was VERY tough IMO. I ultimately went with the SGS3 and couldn't be happier.
Re; the screen being better on one versus the other... I think it largely comes down to your eyes. I've personally always loved the AMOLED screens, exaggerated colors and all, but my eyes aren't what they used to be so for me that brightness and saturation is actually a big plus. When I compared the two phones side-by-side I frankly couldn't tell the difference for the most part. It seemed like in some apps one would be a little better, and in some it was the other way around. Also, the whole pentile thing with the SGS3- again, my eyes being what they are, I can't resolve the pixels at all anymore no matter how much I squint, so for me that's a complete non-factor.
In terms of performance, all I know for sure is that the SGS3 is without question the smoothest experience I've ever had on any Android phone. The HTC seemed perfectly comparable though. I've seen various benchmarks that put one on top of the other (and then other benchmarks that reverse things) so, to me, you're probably talking about a relative wash here.
Build quality and feel.. .this one is weird because I've seen a few people saying the SGS3 feels cheap and not made well and that doesn't match my opinion at all. Yes, the chassis is plastic, but it feels like quality to me. There's definitely no bowing or creaking or any of that stuff. It feels solid and well-made to me for sure. Oh, and FYI, mine has been dropped from roughly 4 feet on a kitchen floor already with no ill effect, and no case or anything, so at least to a fist approximation it's sturdy (hopefully I don't test it any more than that! LOL) The HTC also feels like a quality device. Again, to my sense I'd call it a wash. The SGS3 I believe is a little thinner and lighter, which I sometimes find myself wishing it weren't, but most of the time not. The HTC does have that little kickstand, which is a nice plus, but come on, I don't know too many people that would consider that a deciding factor either way.
I like having the replaceable batter for sure, that's always a nice thing. Historically I've used extended batteries in my phone so a replaceable battery is required, but I'll tell you, my SGS3 has so far given me stellar battery life and it doesn't seem necessary. Still, nice to have the option. Similarly, being able to swap in a bigger SD card is nice too (although I have everything I can imagine ever wanting on my phone and it's only half-filling my 32Gb card so I'm probably done there... if the 32Gb model had been available at the time I would have gotten that and just not used a card frankly).
Samsung has also, in my opinion, done a good job augmenting Android without wrecking it. TouchWiz isn't terrible, but I don't run it myself... but aside from the launcher, some of the added features they've given us are nice. Sure, some are a bit gimmicky, and some aren't winners, but there's more good than bad, and they've done it without diverging immensely from stock Android. I say kudos for Samsung this time around, I think they nailed it and haven't gone too far either way. Some will still prefer a stock ICS experience of course, and I hear ya on that, I was running Cyanogen on my Epic before I got my SGS3, but in this case I don't at all mind and in fact LIKE the changes.
One other consideration is that historically Samsung has been pretty slow getting Android updates out to us (partly them, partly carriers fault). We don't know if that will be the case this time around, although I think it's worth noting that we've had already two OTA updates on Sprint so far I believe. Yes, minor updates, but still, that's in only a few weeks' time. I think this bodes well that Samsung may be set to do a much better job getting us our updates faster than in the past. Remember, they managed a nearly simultaneous multi-carrier release for the first time and have a top seller on their hands, I suspect they may not want to ruin that momentum getting us Jelly Bean at a minimum sooner than later. HTC, on the other hand, has historically been good with updates, better than Samsung certainly, so that's something to consider.
I think the bottom line, what I concluded in the store that day anyway, was that I was probably going to be very happy no matter which I chose. They're both great devices. Is the SGS3 worthy? Abso-fraggin'-lutely! Is there a better choice? Possibly, but it's a tough, tough call IMO.

fzammetti said:
Much to the dismay of the salesperson I spent literally two hours playing with the Evo 4G and the SGS3 side-by-side at the local Sprint store a week or so ago, and this after reading every review and comparison I could find. Choosing between the two was VERY tough IMO. I ultimately went with the SGS3 and couldn't be happier.
Re; the screen being better on one versus the other... I think it largely comes down to your eyes. I've personally always loved the AMOLED screens, exaggerated colors and all, but my eyes aren't what they used to be so for me that brightness and saturation is actually a big plus. When I compared the two phones side-by-side I frankly couldn't tell the difference for the most part. It seemed like in some apps one would be a little better, and in some it was the other way around. Also, the whole pentile thing with the SGS3- again, my eyes being what they are, I can't resolve the pixels at all anymore no matter how much I squint, so for me that's a complete non-factor.
In terms of performance, all I know for sure is that the SGS3 is without question the smoothest experience I've ever had on any Android phone. The HTC seemed perfectly comparable though. I've seen various benchmarks that put one on top of the other (and then other benchmarks that reverse things) so, to me, you're probably talking about a relative wash here.
Build quality and feel.. .this one is weird because I've seen a few people saying the SGS3 feels cheap and not made well and that doesn't match my opinion at all. Yes, the chassis is plastic, but it feels like quality to me. There's definitely no bowing or creaking or any of that stuff. It feels solid and well-made to me for sure. Oh, and FYI, mine has been dropped from roughly 4 feet on a kitchen floor already with no ill effect, and no case or anything, so at least to a fist approximation it's sturdy (hopefully I don't test it any more than that! LOL) The HTC also feels like a quality device. Again, to my sense I'd call it a wash. The SGS3 I believe is a little thinner and lighter, which I sometimes find myself wishing it weren't, but most of the time not. The HTC does have that little kickstand, which is a nice plus, but come on, I don't know too many people that would consider that a deciding factor either way.
I like having the replaceable batter for sure, that's always a nice thing. Historically I've used extended batteries in my phone so a replaceable battery is required, but I'll tell you, my SGS3 has so far given me stellar battery life and it doesn't seem necessary. Still, nice to have the option. Similarly, being able to swap in a bigger SD card is nice too (although I have everything I can imagine ever wanting on my phone and it's only half-filling my 32Gb card so I'm probably done there... if the 32Gb model had been available at the time I would have gotten that and just not used a card frankly).
Samsung has also, in my opinion, done a good job augmenting Android without wrecking it. TouchWiz isn't terrible, but I don't run it myself... but aside from the launcher, some of the added features they've given us are nice. Sure, some are a bit gimmicky, and some aren't winners, but there's more good than bad, and they've done it without diverging immensely from stock Android. I say kudos for Samsung this time around, I think they nailed it and haven't gone too far either way. Some will still prefer a stock ICS experience of course, and I hear ya on that, I was running Cyanogen on my Epic before I got my SGS3, but in this case I don't at all mind and in fact LIKE the changes.
One other consideration is that historically Samsung has been pretty slow getting Android updates out to us (partly them, partly carriers fault). We don't know if that will be the case this time around, although I think it's worth noting that we've had already two OTA updates on Sprint so far I believe. Yes, minor updates, but still, that's in only a few weeks' time. I think this bodes well that Samsung may be set to do a much better job getting us our updates faster than in the past. Remember, they managed a nearly simultaneous multi-carrier release for the first time and have a top seller on their hands, I suspect they may not want to ruin that momentum getting us Jelly Bean at a minimum sooner than later. HTC, on the other hand, has historically been good with updates, better than Samsung certainly, so that's something to consider.
I think the bottom line, what I concluded in the store that day anyway, was that I was probably going to be very happy no matter which I chose. They're both great devices. Is the SGS3 worthy? Abso-fraggin'-lutely! Is there a better choice? Possibly, but it's a tough, tough call IMO.
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Samsung will still be slow with updates. They always be. This isn't their first flagship. There is a pattern. Their is history.
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I've had this phone for about a week now and I absolutely LOVE it. It's been an awesome device so far.

ubigred said:
Samsung will still be slow with updates. They always be. This isn't their first flagship. There is a pattern. Their is history.
Sent from my SGS3!
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But this is their first flagship that has the same hardware and build across all US carriers. And they also threw in 2GB to "future proof" it for Jelly Bean, so Samsung is definitely getting serious.

El Nivek said:
But this is their first flagship that has the same hardware and build across all US carriers. And they also threw in 2GB to "future proof" it for Jelly Bean, so Samsung is definitely getting serious.
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Well said.
This is the best android device available currently. No question.

jhoffy22 said:
I thought the Galaxy line was notorious for having AWESOME screens. You're telling me that the EVO LTE's LCD2 is actually slightly better?
How do these screens compare to the Iphone 4s?
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The Amoled of this phone is a step back from the Super Amoled Plus which I believe was a choice by Samsung made for ease of manufacture. I read something along those lines. Plus, on the home screen espescially, the screen if dimmer than what Galaxy line users are used to. The European version already got an update to address this issue, who knows when it will arrive over here. The dimness issue is fine for browsers and other applications that you are able to set individually. Of course I can't find it now, but there is a tips and tricks thread that lists it. I love this phone but I won't lie, it is fragile. Already dropped mine just 2 1/2 feet and the screen shattered to hell. I was on my way to buy a cover when it happened. Plastic bezel recessed below screen level offering no protection at all unlike my old Vibrant. That phone could take a tumble. Definitely worth to buy, but select you cover in advance!!!

I like my GS3 so far its a smooth phone! But My reception just flat out sux and I live right in the middle of dallas! There is a few bugs like the brightness sliding thing with the pull down and worst of all when im on google and I go to type in a search and the predictive searches show up below, it will let me touch it but it wont load! I HATE THAT!!! It was either this phone now or wait another 6 months! Soooo...
I just wanna know when we step into the present and recieve LTE like we are paying for!

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LCD kicks any version of amoleds ass all day long.
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You know what they say about opinions....

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You know what they say about opinions....
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I shall attempt to be polite.. but it's not an opinion, regarding brightness. It is objective. Yes you may prefer an AMOLED Screen. But the fact is, it's much, much dimmer. Compare EVO or HOX by S III Screen. S III is half as bright. Then of course PenTile on S III is blurry. And Black crush was visible to me in 5 seconds...all details of gray are lost. THen there are the tints, ink marks, etc. But again the worst thing is how DIM it is. S III is half as bright as a droid. Pathetic!
I am going to use my S III for 14 days. I don't think I will be keeping it though. For me anyway, AMOLED is just crap. And the bright colors? I'm sure they could do that with a filter on LCD too. It's a gimmick. Oh gee, Sammy cranked saturation. They mucked with the color table. Gee how clever Samsung. Anyone could do that. It causes Black Crush and colors are simply not accurate.
Not impressed. At all. S III Screen:: SUCKS.

So return it then, nobody is gonna line up behind you and do the same.
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Buyer's Remorse, is Droid Turbo 2 worth it???

I got to be honest, I may suck up the $35 and return this puppy. So far it just hasn't wowed me enough to be worth the $720 (for the 64GB). It doesn't seem faster than my Droid Turbo 1, and the camera is faster at taking pics, but the pics aren't better. The battery life seems about the same. I am not a fan of the size of it. Octa-Core SchMocta-Core is what I say..lol. I do like the design, but again the additional size takes away from that IMO. I went to the DT1 bc of the smaller size coming from a Note 3. I feel like I've gone back up to a Note 3 in size and that is not what I wanted. And it's loaded with games I don't want with additional apps I don't want either. smh. great 5MP front facing camera, though I don't often take selfies...
Also I'm getting complaints of people not hearing me or I sound like I'm breaking up. I'm not sure if it's the phone or the weather. We're having bad weather right now so I've been waiting to see if it clears up.
Can anyone convince me to keep this Turbo 2? It's not bad, but it's also not "much" better than the DT1.

The screen is better, has better white balance and slightly brighter. Battery is definitely longer lasting than DT1 (even though spec-wise it's smaller). Speakers are much louder and crisper sounding. Camera is much sharper, better white balance and the lens is better because corners are not as blurry as DT1. There is MicroSD slot. Front has 5mp with Flash. Screen has a user-replaceable top layer so when you decide to sell 1-2 years from now you can replace your scratched up screen with brand new layer from moto for $29 turning it into almost new phone. Overall design - much stronger casing, no more cracking noise when squeezing the phone. Charging is 13hrs in 15 mins vs 8hrs in 15mins, using 25W charger vs 15W. I had both phones side by side for several days. So I'm not sure in what respect DT2 is worse than DT1, it's basically better in every single aspect I can think of.

First it definitely takes better pics then the t1. It's faster taking pics as well my wife and daughter both have the t1. Now is it worth upgrading from the t1 no absolutely not. I don't know why you would waste your money. I didn't feel upgrading from the Maxx to the turbo was worth it. And that was a bigger upgrade in every way. It's only been a year take it back and wait until next year. I also don't understand you issue with size it is a hair larger that's all.
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dead batteries said:
I got to be honest, I may suck up the $35 and return this puppy. So far it just hasn't wowed me enough to be worth the $720 (for the 64GB). It doesn't seem faster than my Droid Turbo 1, and the camera is faster at taking pics, but the pics aren't better. The battery life seems about the same. I am not a fan of the size of it. Octa-Core SchMocta-Core is what I say..lol. I do like the design, but again the additional size takes away from that IMO. I went to the DT1 bc of the smaller size coming from a Note 3. I feel like I've gone back up to a Note 3 in size and that is not what I wanted. And it's loaded with games I don't want with additional apps I don't want either. smh. great 5MP front facing camera, though I don't often take selfies...
Also I'm getting complaints of people not hearing me or I sound like I'm breaking up. I'm not sure if it's the phone or the weather. We're having bad weather right now so I've been waiting to see if it clears up.
Can anyone convince me to keep this Turbo 2? It's not bad, but it's also not "much" better than the DT1.
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I love this phone but I'm coming from a lgg2. I'm my experience if you ain't happy now with it you won't be later. spend the 35 and get ya something that you will be happy with. When you spend that kind of money for something you need to completely happy.

itanas said:
The screen is better, has better white balance and slightly brighter. Battery is definitely longer lasting than DT1 (even though spec-wise it's smaller). Speakers are much louder and crisper sounding. Camera is much sharper, better white balance and the lens is better because corners are not as blurry as DT1. There is MicroSD slot. Front has 5mp with Flash. Screen has a user-replaceable top layer so when you decide to sell 1-2 years from now you can replace your scratched up screen with brand new layer from moto for $29 turning it into almost new phone. Overall design - much stronger casing, no more cracking noise when squeezing the phone. Charging is 13hrs in 15 mins vs 8hrs in 15mins, using 25W charger vs 15W. I had both phones side by side for several days. So I'm not sure in what respect DT2 is worse than DT1, it's basically better in every single aspect I can think of.
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I didn't say it was a worse phone at all. I simply said it didn't WOW me out of the box, and a couple days later, I'm still not wowed sadly. I disagree with the battery lasting longer though. My DT1 lasts quite awhile with the same type of usage as my DT2.
As for another phone, there is nothing out there that impresses me. I guess it goes to show how great a job Moto did with the DT1??

bigv5150 said:
First it definitely takes better pics then the t1. It's faster taking pics as well my wife and daughter both have the t1. Now is it worth upgrading from the t1 no absolutely not. I don't know why you would waste your money. I didn't feel upgrading from the Maxx to the turbo was worth it. And that was a bigger upgrade in every way. It's only been a year take it back and wait until next year. I also don't understand you issue with size it is a hair larger that's all.
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Umm, let's just say I have small hands and leave it at that...lol

no buyers remorse here, cause i got mine for FREE !!! and IMHO, it's wayyyyyy better than the first turbo. i had one and couldn't stand it

Is the Droid Turbo 2, Moto X Force in my case (i live in Europe) worth upgrading from the Nexus 5 (2013)?
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Well, you're correct. It's a lot larger and that won't change. It was a real turn off for me. However, I find that since I can use this phone without a case, it is the same size in my front pocket as my Turbo 1 with a case. And, that was the real test for me. In the end, the rest of the spec improvements, including the SD card, are undeniable. So, I am satisfied with it. If it's too large for you, then you are probably smart to return it before your return window closes. Do I wish it was a 5" phone instead? Yes.

You can uninstall all those preloaded games. You can also go to settings-apps-all and disable all of the vzw bloatware so it is never run and you will never see it.
Have you turned off keep WiFi on when screen is off. Also have you switched to LTE/CDMA in settings? These two changes alone have tripled my battery life.
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Can anyone tell me if the Droid Turbo 2 is worth upgrading from the Nexus 5 of 2013?
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LordCapi said:
Can anyone tell me if the Droid Turbo 2 is worth upgrading from the Nexus 5 of 2013?
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You have asked this same question in 4-5 threads. Please stop it!
Ask it one place, or make a new thread altogether. Stop thread hijacking.
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JasonJoel said:
You have asked this same question in 4-5 threads. Please stop it!
Ask it one place, or make a new thread altogether. Stop thread hijacking.
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Ok sorry, but I just want to know
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After several days of playing with the Turbo2 non-stop, I'm being hit with buyers remorse. Very close to sending it back
No doubt its performance is superb. The camera is great, the turbo charging and battery life are awesome, and there is so so much to love about this phone.
But I cant get over the following issues:
1) Bezels... too big, but the bottom bezel is a disaster. It's huge. It makes holding the phone awkward for me. And I find myself constantly hitting the check-mark to try and go home.
2) Display. Its not horrible by any means. But it definitely does look "sunk-in" due to all the layers. This wouldn't be a deal-breaker on its own, but its still something that has managed to irk me since I got the phone.
3) I already have the Original Turbo... and that still performs great. Outside of the improved camera, this just isnt turning out to be as big of an upgrade as I had hoped. Testing the phones side by side on nearly ever app I use (note: I do NOT use my phone for gaming), I just dont see any meaningful increase in speed or responsiveness.
I think if I was coming from any 2013-generation phone, I would be have a very different point of reference. But having last years Turbo, I think I will end up being content to hold onto it longer, until something which is a more significant upgrade comes along.

rajuabju said:
After several days of playing with the Turbo2 non-stop, I'm being hit with buyers remorse. Very close to sending it back
No doubt its performance is superb. The camera is great, the turbo charging and battery life are awesome, and there is so so much to love about this phone.
But I cant get over the following issues:
1) Bezels... too big, but the bottom bezel is a disaster. It's huge. It makes holding the phone awkward for me. And I find myself constantly hitting the check-mark to try and go home.
2) Display. Its not horrible by any means. But it definitely does look "sunk-in" due to all the layers. This wouldn't be a deal-breaker on its own, but its still something that has managed to irk me since I got the phone.
3) I already have the Original Turbo... and that still performs great. Outside of the improved camera, this just isnt turning out to be as big of an upgrade as I had hoped. Testing the phones side by side on nearly ever app I use (note: I do NOT use my phone for gaming), I just dont see any meaningful increase in speed or responsiveness.
I think if I was coming from any 2013-generation phone, I would be have a very different point of reference. But having last years Turbo, I think I will end up being content to hold onto it longer, until something which is a more significant upgrade comes along.
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Yeah I agree turbo to a turbo 2 no bueno. I came from a droid maxx and its so much better.
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rajuabju said:
After several days of playing with the Turbo2 non-stop, I'm being hit with buyers remorse. Very close to sending it back
No doubt its performance is superb. The camera is great, the turbo charging and battery life are awesome, and there is so so much to love about this phone.
But I cant get over the following issues:
1) Bezels... too big, but the bottom bezel is a disaster. It's huge. It makes holding the phone awkward for me. And I find myself constantly hitting the check-mark to try and go home.
2) Display. Its not horrible by any means. But it definitely does look "sunk-in" due to all the layers. This wouldn't be a deal-breaker on its own, but its still something that has managed to irk me since I got the phone.
3) I already have the Original Turbo... and that still performs great. Outside of the improved camera, this just isnt turning out to be as big of an upgrade as I had hoped. Testing the phones side by side on nearly ever app I use (note: I do NOT use my phone for gaming), I just dont see any meaningful increase in speed or responsiveness.
I think if I was coming from any 2013-generation phone, I would be have a very different point of reference. But having last years Turbo, I think I will end up being content to hold onto it longer, until something which is a more significant upgrade comes along.
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Although I do not have the same issues you have with the device, I do agree on most points. My DT1 still does awesome. That was such a groundbreaking device for motorola to put out, unfortunately I don't think they did nearly as good a job marketing it as they are doing the the shatterproof shield DT2. I went to the V store today and saw like 4 people picking up the DT2. Made me clutch mine a little closer to my body..lol and it made me feel awesome bc I got mine thru design your own and I get a free refresh cause I got the 64GB phone

try doing this to a first gen turbo.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWHrOuyLrrU&feature=youtu.be

I think they could have made some incremental improvements to the DT1, and been successful without the shatter proof screen. The only problems I had with the DT1 were the capacitive buttons, poor speaker volume, lack of SD card, and the chin portion of the plastic housing. It is otherwise an excellent device.
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xbxjunkie said:
try doing this to a first gen turbo.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWHrOuyLrrU&feature=youtu.be
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I think everyone is aware of the shatter proof screen. The commercials are on TV ad infinitum. There's more to buying a phone then how difficult it is to break the screen.

Eddie Hicks said:
I think everyone is aware of the shatter proof screen. The commercials are on TV ad infinitum. There's more to buying a phone then how difficult it is to break the screen.
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Two things that are most annoying about this device are
1. People constantly complaining about the V logo..lol I wish it weren't there either, but it's not going away
2. People continuous posting or re-linking the shatterproof test video.... we've all seen it.