I've been reading a lot about Rom manager and the opinions are varied.
Is it okay to use for flashing, or better just to use it to download ROMs and get into CWR easier and go manual from there?
How about the backup function?
siskiou said:
I've been reading a lot about Rom manager and the opinions are varied.
Is it okay to use for flashing, or better just to use it to download ROMs and get into CWR easier and go manual from there?
How about the backup function?
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I use it for backups (because it's easy to give them a custom name), and Fixing Permissions. Anything else I do from CWM after downloading on a computer. Just my style.
I don't have a need for it, I like to do everything in recovery.
I like it for downloading Roms and installing... As stated above, backups are easy to rename or delete... I also use it flash kernals that I have saved in Dropbox... Check for new Roms...
All in all I'm happy with the Rom Manager app
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I don't have a need for it, I like to do everything in recovery.
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+1 me too 10chars
I have had varied results with rom manager. It's great when it works, but really frustrating when it won't. I use it for backups and flashing kernels and themes and such, but I prefer to do roms manually, just because I like to wipe the dalvic cache, something rom manager won't do.
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I used it to update my recovery and to manage backups
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I used it to update my recovery and to manage backups
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me 5, wish there was a alternative to rom manager
It's a great app, I use it for Backup and to check out random ROM info.
That been said, other than backup, I do everything else in CWM recovery.
Thanks for all the opinions!
So far, I've use it to download a rom, make backups (love that you can give them recognizable names) and to boot into CWM. Is it somehow safer to boot into recovery after shutting down the phone?
Saving back ups are great as others have pointed out, but it is also a great way for a newbie to flashing roms to get comfortable IMO. My first few months of flashing new roms was done all through rom manager.
I used mainly to update roms since they have that list thing, saves me time and effort to manually go on xda and such sites to check if the roms have been updated. Don't see it as anything nooby, just don't feel like scrolling through ads on XDA just to see if the TSMPoolParty rom has been updated or not, when I can just check in the Rom Manager and not have to deal with any ads.
The ads prevent you from coming here? Really?
Well thankfully for me I don't run into ads on any website I go to.
If you are using Firefox you should download Noscript. Probably the best Add-on I use to date. I never look at those annoying ads or pop-ups anymore.
I love ROM manager! It is excellent for making any backup, might I suggest weekly (or more!) backups with this app. It also good for downloading and managing new and current ROMs. Installing a ROM is probably most efficiently done through Clockwork though... unfortunately the ability to wipe certain things can't be done in this app... hopefully those are planned features though, if they're even possible.
I perfer to use CWM instead of rom manager. Just seems more safe to me. I can ensure that i do a full wipe and clear cache. Sometimes Rom Manager may not do it fully and when you flash roms is craps out.
Can someone tell me if there is a difference between turning off the phone and booting into CWM, and using Rom Manager to get there?
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Can someone tell me if there is a difference between turning off the phone and booting into CWM, and using Rom Manager to get there?
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Yeah. It's easier to use ROM Manager.
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Yeah. It's easier to use ROM Manager.
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That's what I think, too.
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Hey guys, I have the latest ROOT done by Unrevoked3, it has the clockwork mod, and my phone reboots just about ever other minute.
So I talked myself into it, I'm like "Hey why not do a custom rom? Maybe Cyanogen or something?"
So I'm lost. I have no idea what mod to install. I need it to be a .img file, too, because that's what Unrevoked uses.
I don't want the stupid sprint stuff, I just want the cool, brass and glass speedy phone. What do I do?
If you have clockwork recovery just go into it and load the cm6 .zip file?
I couldn't find it on the wiki.
Link to how to "load" ?
GantMan007 said:
I couldn't find it on the wiki.
Link to how to "load" ?
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easiest way is to buy rom manager premium from the market...you can download and install different roms within the app and if you don't like it you can just download another one, wipe, and install...you don't have to use you're pc atall.
but you have to be on clockwork recovery to be able to use rom manager..
awesome thanks. But I'll lose all my info/apps everytime I load one right?
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awesome thanks. But I'll lose all my info/apps everytime I load one right?
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Always remember to back up your apps and data just in case.
JavaIV said:
Always remember to back up your apps and data just in case.
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yes always backup your data using titanium backup, then do a nandroid backup, and always WIPE DATA, CACHE before flashing any and every rom.
youngdhillon said:
yes always backup your data using titanium backup, then do a nandroid backup, and always WIPE DATA, CACHE before flashing any and every rom.
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Downloaded and paid for Rom Manager Premium (trying to give back to devs)
How do I do a nandroid backup, and wipe data, cache before I use Rom Manager?
nm, I see it's part of the application.
So unrevoked3 does support cm6 now? If so that makes my life ten times easier not having to redo root with simple root
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So unrevoked3 does support cm6 now? If so that makes my life ten times easier not having to redo root with simple root
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Nope. Nand unlock is still required by cm like it is by many roms. Unrevoked won't get you there.
That's what I thought......i may have mis read the op's first post but wanted to clarify for myself and the op that cm 6 will not work with unrevoked
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Can Someone Customize it to be able to go through folders to flash zips instead of having to drop everything on the root of my sd card it's looks really unorganized and I always forget to put the zip on the root of my sd after wiping everything then trying to flash something. I wouldn't mind donating for that and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person that wouldn't mind donating for that being put in there.
The first recovery agent i had, clockwork or whatever, it let me go through folders. I'm not sure why the more recent version doesn't let you.
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Yeah and also can anyone enable loop devices in it because I think it is one of the reasons why the dualboot doesnt work.
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Clockwork doesn't back up radios
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The first recovery agent i had, clockwork or whatever, it let me go through folders. I'm not sure why the more recent version doesn't let you.
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Yeah and also can anyone enable loop devices in it because I think it is one of the reasons why the dualboot doesnt work.
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futuristicstyles said:
Can Someone Customize it to be able to go through folders to flash zips instead of having to drop everything on the root of my sd card it's looks really unorganized and I always forget to put the zip on the root of my sd after wiping everything then trying to flash something. I wouldn't mind donating for that and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person that wouldn't mind donating for that being put in there.
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You would have to go to Amon_RA and talk to him. i believe i heard he was busy for a while. Maybe check with him on updating RA from 1.8.0 to something like 1.8.1. We defiantly need it!
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The first recovery agent i had, clockwork or whatever, it let me go through folders. I'm not sure why the more recent version doesn't let you.
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Clockworkmod is for the noobies once first after rooting and using rom manager....unless you have RA, you wont wipe data nor dalvik or even battery stats correctly with clockwork. Clockwork needs a major overhaul. Clockwork and RA are two totally different recoveris. RA's feature is for there to not be so much clutter. so its scans /sdcard just for roms.
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Yeah and also can anyone enable loop devices in it because I think it is one of the reasons why the dualboot doesnt work.
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not understanding your question....pleasse be a little more descriptive.....
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Clockwork doesn't back up radios
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right clockwork has a ton of issues. i agree that it needs to be updated....or that someone needs to come along and try to combine both RA recovery style and clockworks style into one recovery....except do it right! (not halfassing it) but still......clockwork is always good for searching those folders. RA is good for wiping and stability and outrageously good for the nand backups!
First, amon recovery has its own thread and this request has been asked many times before.
Second, amon has the ability to mount the sdcard to your pc while in recovery. Honestly if you are doing any kind of flashing on your phone (besides nands) you really should be near a pc the whole time.
Last, if you read the amon thread, amon himself said that writing recoveries is a hobby and not his profession. Make your request be known in his thread and be patient although this request has been made many times like I said even by me. But when you realize how valuable the usb ms toggle option is (along with apps like astro, root explorer, etc) you will eventually get into the habit of triple checking your steps prior to flashing anything.
I agree with bmx añd lovëtheevo
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For the folder issues, I just use ASTRO file manager to move the file I want to flash to the root of my SD. It's not hard, and can be done in a few seconds.
I see that a lot of the "experienced" android users prefer Amon_Ra recovery over Clockwork. I have to say that I personally have used Clockwork with no problems what so ever. Even a chicken**** noob like myself can use ROM manager w/o a problem. I never had a problems backing up my current ROM, restoring it or downloading and installing a totally new ROM.
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I see that a lot of the "experienced" android users prefer Amon_Ra recovery over Clockwork. I have to say that I personally have used Clockwork with no problems what so ever. Even a chicken**** noob like myself can use ROM manager w/o a problem. I never had a problems backing up my current ROM, restoring it or downloading and installing a totally new ROM.
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Make sure you have at least one amonra nand backup squirelled away though. Clockwork doesn't back up the wimax image or rsa keys. Amonra does.
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That's what I do for the time being but I like to organize my stuff in folders and sometimes o end up forgetting to move them and then wipe everything at work and be without my phone until I get home
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PsychoFox13 said:
For the folder issues, I just use ASTRO file manager to move the file I want to flash to the root of my SD. It's not hard, and can be done in a few seconds.
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Amon_RA has said that v1.9.0 will have folder navigation. Simple as that.
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Amon_RA has said that v1.9.0 will have folder navigation. Simple as that.
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Thanks for letting us know. Do you have a link so some of us can keep and eye out for the update?
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I was able to do backp using the ROM manager. Yesterday, I am not able to do back up. when it starts the backup of the data, it is not able to do so.
I decided to flash the backup I did with ROM manager last March 2. It restored it with no problem, I thought the issue might be because I installed an app that ROM manager doesn't play well with. But when I did a backup, it still showed the same problem.
How do I fix this?
Did you uninstall rom manager and reinstall it?
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tomasitoc said:
I was able to do backp using the ROM manager. Yesterday, I am not able to do back up. when it starts the backup of the data, it is not able to do so.
I decided to flash the backup I did with ROM manager last March 2. It restored it with no problem, I thought the issue might be because I installed an app that ROM manager doesn't play well with. But when I did a backup, it still showed the same problem.
How do I fix this?
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I have this issue too, not everyone can do a backup through ROM manager for whatever reason. You'll just have to boot to recovery and do the backup manually.
A greedy dev with skewed priorities (money over functionality) is the problem.....
As others have mentioned, just reboot into recovery and perform the backup and you should have no issues. And stay away from the TOUCH version of the recovery.
G1ForFun said:
A greedy dev with skewed priorities (money over functionality) is the problem.....
As others have mentioned, just reboot into recovery and perform the backup and you should have no issues. And stay away from the TOUCH version of the recovery.
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I wouldnt say koush is greedy, but your advice about booting into recovery for all related tasks is spot on.
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born2gethard said:
Did you uninstall rom manager and reinstall it?
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I uninstalled and installed again the rom manager, still the same issue.
what I liked with rom manager is that I am able to name the backup.
I can back up thru recovery no problem.
Question:
How can I properly name/rename the backup in recovery?
G1ForFun said:
A greedy dev with skewed priorities (money over functionality) is the problem.....
As others have mentioned, just reboot into recovery and perform the backup and you should have no issues. And stay away from the TOUCH version of the recovery.
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Hello g1forfun,
why do you say Stay away from touch recovery?
I've always had to do it manually in recovery. Selecting backup from ROM manager will cause my phone to reboot into recovery, but nothing further happens automatically lol. I feel more comfortable doing it myself anyway.
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Hello g1forfun,
why do you say Stay away from touch recovery?
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Just because I have seen a lot of issues being reported with the touch recovery. Basically, it just does acts wonky at times.
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Just because I have seen a lot of issues being reported with the touch recovery. Basically, it just does acts wonky at times.
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now i understand why you said stay away from touch recovery. I tried it, it is not good at all.
strange I tried to backup with rom manager, it worked!
I didn't do anything, it just fixed itself
I'm just curious what the general consensus is out there between these two recovery modules. I've always used cwm rec until recently when I couldn't test flash ANY cm10 jb roms. I had to install twrp in order to flash them and it worked right away. It nice to have touchscreen controls but newer cwm's have that now too so I guess I just want to be sure I'm not losing anything or missing out on anything by leaving cwm rec for twrp .. and many say to switch anyways but what is the general feeling out there and what are you others using?
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TWRP to me just has a better layout and mor responsive touch UI.. Havent had any problems with it so far not being able to flash or anything so...
+1 TWRP is overall smoother and easier to use IMO, and 0 issues so far flashing anything or restoring backups.
I've used CWM since it was available for the Samsung Captivate. Great program. I'm now using TWRP, and I like it better. It appears to be faster, quicker backups and allows for more options. TWRP feels more responsive than Touch CWM (and I paid for that program).
Two points to consider. Backups for each program are only able to be restored by that program. Meaning, you can't restore a CWM backup using TWRP and you can't restore a TWRP backup using CWM.
If you use TWRP v2.2.1, the INTERNAL SD card mount point is \data\media instead of extSdCard. That's really confusing for CWM users and really annoying general.
You can flash recovery zips in both CWM or TWRP.. I flash my .zips from the external card now that I'm using TWRP.....
Both great programs....:good:
My favorite part about TWRP is that you can enable compression on nandroid backups.
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cellgeek said:
I've used CWM since it was available for the Samsung Captivate. Great program. I'm now using TWRP, and I like it better. It appears to be faster, quicker backups and allows for more options. TWRP feels more responsive than Touch CWM (and I paid for that program).
Two points to consider. Backups for each program are only able to be restored by that program. Meaning, you can't restore a CWM backup using TWRP and you can't restore a TWRP backup using CWM.
If you use TWRP v2.2.1, the INTERNAL SD card mount point is \data\media instead of extSdCard. That's really confusing for CWM users and really annoying general.
You can flash recovery zips in both CWM or TWRP.. I flash my .zips from the external card now that I'm using TWRP.....
Both great programs....:good:
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Yep, I too had been using cwm since my first Captivate...and have always enjoyed it but have also recently switched to TWRP and find it to be better and plan to use it now.as.my only recovery.
It is unfortunate but true that u can't restore backups from the others program so all.my old.cwm nandroid backups are basically useless now unless I reinstall cwm but that's OK moving forward I guess.
I too was a bit confused by the internal.SD card file.system location in data/media and still.don't understand it but as long as u know then its OK. So far it sounds like twrp is the future of recovery and more and more people are switching...and the touch function and extra options.are.nice.features.
The bottom line is as long as I am not missing out on something or losing some important functionality then I'm fine with the switch from cwm and.will.stay with TWRP but will never deny the popularity and usefulness of cwm and how it got me going in the whole.game of flashing and.mod'ing phones.
TWRP is by far the best recovery I have ever used. I couldn't imagine life without it now.
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TWRP is by far the best recovery I have ever used. I couldn't imagine life without it now.
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I totally agree. I was using CWM on my Thrill and didn't get a chance to use TWRP till I got my Fire. Now I will only use TWRP. CWM is an excellent recovery but I like the features of TWRP better.
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a lot of the rooting/recovery guides are suggesting to use clockwork recovery, is that just because twrp wasn't really supported back then? any issues noticed with using twrp on the sgs3?
as with all programs there is no "best" just personal preference: try one, then the other and settle on that which suits yoiur phone and needs "the best"
I tried TWRP and went back to CWM -- many others, obviously, tried and preferred TWRP
TWRP is easier & more efficient to use. Bar none.
But with that said, IMO CWM is still the better recovery for some situations. First, there is more support for CWM still.
Second, if you use a ROM's built in functionality to update itself (like AOKP has), then that requires CWM as far as I can tell.
Also keep in mind that it's easier to screw up on TWRP because it is touch-based. I've accidentally pressed buttons without meaning to. It's only a matter of time before that gets me into trouble.
I just wish CWM would remove the thousand "no" that you have to sort through before getting to a "yes". And I wish they would update it more often.
I did pay for my ClockworkMOD, btw.
hey guys please give me tips on the twrp
i gave up on cwm i couldn't install cm10 on my galaxy s3 i747m ROGERS (at&t)
so can someone walk me through the twrp way of flashing cm10 rom
pleaaaaaaasee
cheers
totti107 said:
hey guys please give me tips on the twrp
i gave up on cwm i couldn't install cm10 on my galaxy s3 i747m ROGERS (at&t)
so can someone walk me through the twrp way of flashing cm10 rom
pleaaaaaaasee
cheers
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Exactly the same as cwm. Except all wiping option are put together in the wipe menu, you can select multiple file to flash on after another and fix permissions is in the advanced menu.
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TWRP is easier & more efficient to use. Bar none.
But with that said, IMO CWM is still the better recovery for some situations. First, there is more support for CWM still.
Second, if you use a ROM's built in functionality to update itself (like AOKP has), then that requires CWM as far as I can tell.
Also keep in mind that it's easier to screw up on TWRP because it is touch-based. I've accidentally pressed buttons without meaning to. It's only a matter of time before that gets me into trouble.
I just wish CWM would remove the thousand "no" that you have to sort through before getting to a "yes". And I wish they would update it more often.
I did pay for my ClockworkMOD, btw.
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I use the touch version of cwm and am very thankful for the thousands no's, help mitigate those "oh crap" moments that touch screen introduces.
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CZ Eddie said:
TWRP is easier & more efficient to use. Bar none.
But with that said, IMO CWM is still the better recovery for some situations. First, there is more support for CWM still.
Second, if you use a ROM's built in functionality to update itself (like AOKP has), then that requires CWM as far as I can tell.
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Task and ktoonzes aokp ota updater now works with the newest twrp.
TWRP. I like its layout, and love that I can build a stack of .zips to flash. (Not sure if CWM has that feature, won't be causing me to switch over to it.)
Encrytion and backups!
The most impressive feature of TWRP hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.. TWRP supports flashing ROM's on devices that have been fully encrypted !
Also, it allows for backup and restore of ROMs on encrypted devices that neither CWM nor CWM Touch support.
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Im new all this rooting and rom stuff and yesterday morning i successfully rooted and inststalled the jellybomb 14.0.0 jelly bean rom thanks to qbking77's on point videos. so the question is... how can i switch which rom im running? i like the jellybeen roms and im looking to explore more to see which better suits my needs. ive heard of doing clean/dirtry instals or something of the sort but i want the best and safest way possible so i dont run into any bricking trouble. please help?
Ok, read up on how to flash a recovery
Download the rom of your choice and place it.on your sdcard. Once you do that you can install roms by booting into recovery and finding the zip for the rom you want to flash and selecting it through the "install zip from sdcard" option
Now a clean install is whenyou wipe all partitions, aka blocks of your phones memory, (details farther down) and then install the rom zip. This method minimizes the chances for problems to occur after installing
A clean flash involves:
Formatting system
Formatting / Clearing data (also known as a factory reset)
Wiping cache
Wiping / Clearing dalvik cache
Now a dirty flash is when you just flash the new rom zip over whatever you're currently rumning, without clearing anything. This method is only recommended when flashing an updated version of the same rom, and even then, the nature of some updates can require you to do a clean flash.
One more thing, DO NOT flash any roms, mods, or zips for the international version. That usa surefire way to brick your debice because the partitions are completely different.
To learn more about how android and this.stuff works, I would suggest heading over to xda,university.com
Thanks for the info. What is the best way to back everything up? I backed everything up wen I installed th jb. Rom and went to restore and couldnt find anythingband had to start from scratch.
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Roni P. said:
Thanks for the info. What is the best way to back everything up? I backed everything up wen I installed th jb. Rom and went to restore and couldnt find anythingband had to start from scratch.
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Backup via CWM (RECOVERY) is mainly for restoring the same rom or going back to the rom you were running if experimenting, Now, can use apps such as Titanium backup to save all the other settings, apps and things. Once you flash your new rom, download it, open program and can restore your stuff that way. Personally, I'll wipe, start from scratch, sometimes i'll download an app i never use, and it just allows me to clear out the useless ones.. Happy flashing!
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Thanks for the info. What is the best way to back everything up? I backed everything up wen I installed th jb. Rom and went to restore and couldnt find anythingband had to start from scratch.
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Yes as said above, a backup through recovery (also called a "nandroid" ) stores an EXACT image of the current state of your device. Meaning all data, all system files, all apps, radios, etc. Backing up through an app, like Titanium Backup, only backs up certain things like apps and app data
Basically, if you're trying any experimental stuff that may break your system (for example, flashing a new modem or testing to see if a certain kernel works), then a nandroid is the way to go because you can restore to an exact image of a state when everything was working
Yea I did that the 1st time and couldnt recover anything. Is there a certain way I should recover or maybe I did something wrong? Im not sure. Sorry if im sounding stupid but I cant return my phone if I screw it up so im tryin to be as safe as possible. Hopefully thats understandable
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Press volume up home button and then power button don't let go till Samsung screen comes up bought 10 ish sec. Once let go phone should go into cwm, clock work mod recovery. See if you have that first
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Yea I did that the 1st time and couldnt recover anything. Is there a certain way I should recover or maybe I did something wrong? Im not sure. Sorry if im sounding stupid but I cant return my phone if I screw it up so im tryin to be as safe as possible. Hopefully thats understandable
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No no, its recovery
The recovery is basically something that allows you to install zips, it doesnt actually have much to do with recovering anything lol
But first do what was suggested right above me to check to see if you have a recovery installed
To get a more detailed description of what a recovery is and what it does, you can get over to xda-university and read through the "as user" section on recoveries
Think cwm has saved a few phones on here. Me I don't use a pc. Easy just with phone. If he's deleted his folder should he recoveR then it would bring that folder bk?
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Well yea I kno I have a recovery I use cwm... I jus need to kno how I can actually save my phones content... I dont wanna start fresh everytime I decide to flash a new rom
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OK titanium bkup. But don't restore all things if your backing up at lot as will save 4.1.2 4.2.1 and 4.2 2 and so on. Don't want to mix as fc will happen
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