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GSM Frequeny

I have a Orange SIM card which I got in Israel, I am now in Canada and that SIM works fine on my friends Nokia 6600, but when I try to use it with my XDA IIs I can't find any networks or anything. I am guessing its the GSM frequecy although the phone supports all of them. Does anyone have any idea what I need to do to get the SIM to work here? Does anyone know how to manually select a GSM frequency?
XDA IIs
ROM Version: 1.40.00 WWE
Radio Version: 1.15.00
Protocol Version: 1337.45
Hello psytech,
I believe you're roaming. Sometimes, you really cannot just plug your sim card then voila its working. If you are roaming, most of the time you really have to manually select the network.
anyway, i'm currently using windows mobile 2005, and no longer using windows mobile 2003 SE. i hope i could still help you or atleast you can see the pattern on how to do it.
here what you do:
1. click on the signal strength icon (the icon located on the upper right most portion of your screen just beside the speaker icon)
2. a dialogue box will appear with a clickable 'settings' button (located on lower left part of the dialogue box.), click the 'settings'
3. you will then see 3 tabs on the bottom part of the screen, 'phone', 'services', 'network'. click on 'network'.
4. you should find something like 'find network' button there, then just but before you click on it, choose 'manual' for network selection.
the rest is self explanatory, i hope i was able to help you. cheers!
You say your orange sim works fine on your friends nokia but does not work in your IIs.
Is it possible that your IIS device is sim locked as in will only work on the O2 network in the country you got it from.
If so unlock it via wiki (link in sig)
not it
I forgot to mention that the SIM worked fine in Isreal, my original SIM is orange (I do have an account with) I just can't get support cause I didn't buy the phone from them (capitalists).
About the network search. Thats what I've been doing for the last couple of days but I can not find ANY networks at all. which is what leads me to believe that its a GSM frequency problem.
What happens if you put your friends sim in your phone
GSM in Canada is generally 1900 http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_ca.shtml
doesn't work either
My friend's SIM doesn't work on my phone either. If canada is 1900, how can I make sure that my phone is currently using 1900. (I know it supports it, but how do I actually see that its actually scanning with it?)
What happens if you go to Settings->Phone->Network and then change Network Selection to Manual.
You should then get a list of networks. This will list all networks even if you cannot connect to them.
[edit] This has already be suggested earlier in the thread
If you do get some networks then the only reason that I can think of that you are not connecting is that under Prefered Networks you have a network selected that your carrier does not have a roaming agreement with.
Check your provider's website to see who they have agreements with.
no networks
My provider (Orange) has agreements with Rodgers, but my problem is that I am not listing ANY networks, I tried manual and even added the Rodgers network to my favorite networks, but when I try to search for networks I can't find any, I just get a blank window. This is very odd to me and I've never heard of anyone with that problem.
Like I've mentioned before, I updated my windows to TuMa 1.4 and my radio to 1.1.15. If there's anything else I need to do or anything I may not have done when I updated my network please tell me.
btw when I installed that TuMa windows I change my ID thingy to Tmobile.
Problem solved
Attenttion everyone:
It has come to my attention that there is a problem in the Band Selection CAB when it comes to certian cellular providers.
The problem so far appears on a Cellular One network that only supports 850Mhz. When the North American Option is choosen in the Band tab, the phone can not find a network to register on. I'm not quite sure why this happens yet, but there is a solution to fix.
http://relaysgoldens.com/sx66/ext_roms/BandSelect-fix.CAB
By installing this CAB, it provides a fourth option on the band tab, "Reset Value to Zero".
By selecting this option, the phone will be reset to it's default state, and will work normally.
I've trapped this as a bug in the 1.40.124 extrom and will be working to figure this out.
Note: the band selection setting is persistant, and will not be reset even if you downgrade the ROMs on the phone. If you are experiencing this problem, the ONLY way to reset the value is to use the CAB above.
-Chris
P.S. I've also updated the 1.40.124 RAR file on the website to include the updated bandselect CAB.
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I found that at http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53121 and it worked.

Network Wizard

Since I am located in a very small country with only one (and not well-known) provider. How can I stop the network wizard from asking me all the time to customize my network? There's no customization file and there never will be. The best would be to remove this add-on but I understand that it is written in ROM

Operator Network Monitor

Hi - I'm looking for an application that will measure the strength of different cellphone operator networks in various locations.
Basically, I'm having trouble with a weak signal on Orange at home and would like some way to measure which network is going to give me the best coverage in my most common locations - home, work etc - and from there work out which would be best for me!
The various 'coverage maps' provided on the operator's websites are very pretty, but aren't detailed enough - Orange say coverage of my home location if excellent, for example. But it ain't!
I'm using an unlocked Blackstone, so presumably there's some way of convincing it to measure the strength of other networks.
Any help would be gratefully received!
I don't think you need a special app to do this... I can make my HD connect to a different network by going to the Settings Tab in TF3D, tapping Communications, going to Settings (Left-Soft-Key) --> Phone, switching to the Network Tab (third from the left) and changing "Network selection" from "automatic" to "manual". I'm presented a list of networks I can currently connect to and I can choose which one I want to use. By trying all available networks and comparing the reception bars you have, you could determine which network has the best coverage...
Fieldtest will give the signal strengths of up to six cells but IIRC it doesn't give the CellID for them so it wouldn't be easy to match the results to the operator (if indeed they are different operators rather than the current operator's ones that are 'local').
Hopefully someone will come in with a nice app that does what you require.
morfis said:
Fieldtest will give the signal strengths of up to six cells but IIRC it doesn't give the CellID for them so it wouldn't be easy to match the results to the operator (if indeed they are different operators rather than the current operator's ones that are 'local').
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I have no idea what you are talking about...
Fieldtest is an application that was meant for HTC engineers rather than general release. It gives info about the radio activity.
Quick search, no idea if this one will work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357092
Steeve24 said:
Quick search, no idea if this one will work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357092
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Interesting, I didn't realise there was a version that would show the CellIDs.....now to work out how to make it display the cellIDs of the neighbours as it doesn't seem to be doing?
Armed with the CellID and location code ...is there an easy way to convert those to an operator and the actual site location?
To answer my own question (info from a friend so credit to him)
http://www.opencellid.org/
further to this I can add that the windows mobile client for opencellid (http://opencellclient.sourceforge.net/index.html) works on my Blackstone
Field test can be done by 2 methods:
1. on dialler type *#*#364#*#*
2. or use file attached
Fallen Spartan said:
Field test can be done by 2 methods:
1. on dialler type *#*#364#*#*
2. or use file attached
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Hi mate, have you made any comparison between radio 1.14 and 1.16 ?

Unlocked - how can I see all local cell provider signals?

Back in the day, I used to be able to see a list on my AT&T Motorola Razr of all the cell provider signals in my area. For instance, if I were in Pittsburgh, I could see the list of available networks compatible with my phone (the phone would apparently create the list from actually getting signal from those cell towers) and if I felt like it, I could switch to a different provider that had a stronger signal.
Now that my gs3 is unlocked I'm hoping I can find a way to see that same information. For example, the AT&T signal in an area might be terrible, but there could be another provider that will give me "roaming" coverage with a better signal. I would then switch to that roaming coverage voluntarily on the fly.
Anyone know of a way to do this? Under settings / more settings / wireless and networks / mobile networks I find "network operators". Currently only "default setup" is listed there. But this is where I'd expect to see other network signals that my phone is getting.

[Q] Can North America 2013 Nexus 7 LTE have cell phone function

can someone let me know if new 2013 North America Nexus 7 LTE can add a phone as HTC Flyer 3G did a small change and it show up the Phone APP? So I can use it as cell phone.
Thank you for advise
I sir share your quest for this burning question :fingers-crossed:
GSM vs Cellular 3g/4g support
i hope this answers the question or helped you. Gsmarena labeled the tablet Asus Google Nexus 7 2 Cellular with 3G/4G support.. while some other tablest with phone functionality are labeld with a GSM. So i think GSM means having phone functionalit/capability. But im not realy sure about that. I also think having a signal,mic, and speakers can make a device a phone.
GSM is a carrier tech - commonly used for legacy voice channels.
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i hope this answers the question or helped you. Gsmarena labeled the tablet Asus Google Nexus 7 2 Cellular with 3G/4G support.. while some other tablest with phone functionality are labeld with a GSM. So i think GSM means having phone functionalit/capability. But im not realy sure about that. I also think having a signal,mic, and speakers can make a device a phone.
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Nope not true at all. Many 3G networks do not have GSM hardware on the U-Tran/NodeB at all; and do all calls over UMTS voice channels on the WCDMA carrier path. The XT network in New Zealand is one example of this.
GSM is a technology - and many legacy/budget players use it to provide voice services - modern networks do not always deploy GSM along side there UMTS/WCDMA deployments which run the 3G and LTE networks.
Strickly speaking LTE networks don't have a specific Voice Channel at all and are mean to use a SIP handover data channel. Unfortunately due to poor device/handset support for the LTE SIP handoff many operators are choosing to use their existing UMTS/3G dedicated voice channels for voice calling over their shinny new LTE networks. This means your data rates will drop when making/receiving calls - amongst other things.
So at least to my observations on my LTE Nexus7 (Deb) that I picked up and rooted with the PAC man build - there is nothing stopping voice dialing except for the fact the CM10.2 builds that the PACman rom is currently based on have not included the phone/messaging applications and frameworks into the builds. Hopefully this is just an oversight from the initial AOSP code drop from google (which does not include them).
if so i'd stick my nexus4 rogers SIM card into this LTE nex7 and make it a phablet as well!
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Nope not true at all. Many 3G networks do not have GSM hardware on the U-Tran/NodeB at all; and do all calls over UMTS voice channels on the WCDMA carrier path. The XT network in New Zealand is one example of this.
GSM is a technology - and many legacy/budget players use it to provide voice services - modern networks do not always deploy GSM along side there UMTS/WCDMA deployments which run the 3G and LTE networks.
Strickly speaking LTE networks don't have a specific Voice Channel at all and are mean to use a SIP handover data channel. Unfortunately due to poor device/handset support for the LTE SIP handoff many operators are choosing to use their existing UMTS/3G dedicated voice channels for voice calling over their shinny new LTE networks. This means your data rates will drop when making/receiving calls - amongst other things.
So at least to my observations on my LTE Nexus7 (Deb) that I picked up and rooted with the PAC man build - there is nothing stopping voice dialing except for the fact the CM10.2 builds that the PACman rom is currently based on have not included the phone/messaging applications and frameworks into the builds. Hopefully this is just an oversight from the initial AOSP code drop from google (which does not include them).
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Yes CM10 for Deb is just at its beginning.I really hope they manage to get the phone function to work. I don't want to hang around with a phon and my N7... My good old P6800 was excellent for this...
cobyman7035 said:
if so i'd stick my nexus4 rogers SIM card into this LTE nex7 and make it a phablet as well!
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Pretty much - am not sure what Rogers use for their voice calls on their network. If they have a GSM fallback path as well as UMTS voice then that might complicate things.
Going to test the CM10.2 third build that just came out last night and see if that fixes it here in NZ.

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