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Here is a simple step by step guide to rooting / overclocking your updated Defy. If you are like me you upgraded to the new OTA (over the air) firmware only to lose your root access / overclock
As with any free advice given out on XDA, if your phone gets borked and / or something goes wrong while you are trying to root / overclock, I do not work for Motorola and I take no responsibility for your $500 brick.
ROOTING PROCESS STEP BY STEP
1. Download and install the Motorola Mobile Phone USB Drivers (for Windows®)
http://www.motorola.com/consumers/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=bda09ec8009a0210VgnVCM1000008806b00aRCRD
2. Download and Unzip SuperOneClickRoot (thanks to SteveChou)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=489694&d=1295035181
3. Make sure have usb debugging checked on your phone (menu - settings - applications - development - check usb debugging)
4. Plug your phone into your PC and put your phone's USB connection into "Portal and tools" mode. (After youplug your phone in, pull down the notification bar, click on USB connection then toggle Portal and tools.) and close any Motorola Portal Windows that pop up.
5a. XP USERS ONLY:
Make sure you are logged in with an administrator level user account and run the SuperOneClick.exe file that you extracted in step 2. Then Click Root (The whole process takes less than a minute.)
5b. VISTA/7 USERS ONLY:
Right click on the SuperOneClick.exe that you extracted earlier and click Run as Administrator. Then Click Root (The whole process takes less than a minute.)
OVERCLOCKING PROCESS (These are the setting I have been using for a few days with no lockups / force closes YMMV):
1. Go to Market on your phone and download SetVsel
2. Run SetVsel and input the following settings:
28 [email protected] MHZ
44 [email protected] MHZ
58 VSEL3 @1100 MHZ
Check Apply @ Boot Toggle
3. Click Apply+Quit
That's All Folks!
i use milestone to oc my defy is SetVsel any better? did a quad run at 1.3ghz got a nice score
S1dew1nder said:
i use milestone to oc my defy is SetVsel any better? did a quad run at 1.3ghz got a nice score
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I tried milestone for a few days, but I've noticed better battery life with SetVsel. I was barely making it through the day (7am - 8pm) with Milestone, Setvsel seems to get me through the night. Then again, who knows maybe I was just using it more that week.
cheers dude think you maybe right looking at your settings the voltages are lower than the defults set by milestone think ill give it a go see how i get on
S1dew1nder said:
i use milestone to oc my defy is SetVsel any better? did a quad run at 1.3ghz got a nice score
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What are your settings if you don't mind?
bobbyphoenix said:
What are your settings if you don't mind?
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np I've got the vsel set to 65 for 1.3ghz that's the only setting i changed as i didn't know what the other 2 did lol
S1dew1nder said:
np I've got the vsel set to 65 for 1.3ghz that's the only setting i changed as i didn't know what the other 2 did lol
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Thanks. The other two as I understand are like this: First one at 300 is for when the screen is off. It runs the lowest possible to conserve everything. The second one is when the screen is on, so the phone can do what it has to without lagging. The third one is the max the phone can run, so you can run whatever you want, and not worry about slowness or lagging as it will use what it needs up to the max setting. People I see do what you did and just overclock the max to get the full potential out of the chip. The ones that change the first two either want even better battery life, or a little more power midrange when the phone is just on doing its normal stuff. Me, I am using inteks settings on the first page in the screen shot, 300 @30, 700 @54, 1200 @70. Super smooth with heavy load. Scored 1218 on Quadrant. Very stable and I'm happy.
AWSOME
Did the rooting super fast got it under 20 sec lol but just installed SetVsel and app is force closing on me
Edit: Nevermind just rebooted the phone now its working very fast rooting and overclocking
Does rooting the phone this way require the 3G fix after root?
3g fix? ??? I havent had any problems since rooting and 3g is working like charm just like when i opened it brand new
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temp root + overclock
is it possible? use the temporary root option and then use it to overclock to 1ghz?
so that i can still unroot it in the future...
temporary root did nothing for me, had to use permanent root option
and u can stil unroot even if u use permanent option
which is better?
is this better than z4root? over 3.6.360 version?!
does it resets the phone or clear anything up after rooting?!
would you still be able to use tmobile's apps and features? like updates OTA in the future?!
thanks!
@lucid i have the same firmware version as you and it rooted fast and also dint erase anything from the phone left it as it is now from the ota updates i believe there not affected
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which one did you use? or would you say better? z4root or the superOneClick?
SuperOneClick v1.6.5 is the latest with "unroot" option right?!
I used superoneclick for 2.1 it says but I also have the new version that has the unroot option but havent tried it and z4root ive read that still doesnt work with the new firmware update
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rooted!
ok now i rooted my phone and it said SUCCESS in the end, that means it went OK right?
after this should i use milestone ot setvsel or setcpu? which one would you guys prefer?
i'm trying setvsel now nut it doest show me:
VSEL1
VSEL2
VSEL3
just the round lightning with slider bar and the rest of the messages
can i also uncheck the USB debugging now?
thanks!
Cool now your rooted the setvsel thing happend to me also just unistall and reinstall and that should fix it if not turn off phone and turn on again as i did and yes you can disable the debugging mode without problems
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hi again, how do you get the vsel set to 65 for 1.3ghz
all i'm getting aside from lower values of 800mhz are:
1000mhz, 74vsel
1200mhz, 80vsel
1200mhz, 80vsel (custom)
does vsel means the higher the value the more power it consumes compare to
yours set to 65?
oh btw, if i factory reset this, is it still rooted and overclocked?
The lower vsel value the less baterry ir uses bit might cause stabability issues and id you factory reset it stays rooted but overclocked i cant say cause the app is what controls the overclocking so i would guess it goes to factory clock
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and if you have.. how did you do it, and what results are you getting? how's it affected your Quadrant score?
I've not done overclocking before so I don't want to screw things up by being a complete noob!
SetCPU not good
I tried with setCPU but it stops at 1024 so I suppose it's not overclocking anything
SandroV1972 said:
I tried with setCPU but it stops at 1024 so I suppose it's not overclocking anything
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don't you need a kernel thats supports O/C and higher values ?
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don't you need a kernel thats supports O/C and higher values ?
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Correct, kernel values need to be changed to alow it. But with unlocked bootloaders and root, custom kernels will be comming soon...
yup, i rooted it using gingerbreak.apk thingy. Gained superuser permissions etc but setcpu's values only reach 1024mhz...so i;m also assuming its not overclocking anything.
wait for custom kernels...
on similar QSD8255 devices ppl were able to reach 2Ghz!!!
so all will come in due time...
first we need to get custom Recovery working...
1st we all need a xRecovery working for ARC, without it, nothing can be customized.
Can anyone please tell me how long did it take to root 'arc' using gingerbreak.apk?
I have unlocked the bootloader successfully, downloaded gingerbreak.apk, copied it to sd card, started it, choosed 'Root' and it started like 15 minutes ago. I'm still having: 'Rooting... Running exploit... This may take few minutes...' message.
It took 45min to finish with an FC!
DooMLoRD said:
on similar QSD8255 devices ppl were able to reach 2Ghz!!!
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My Arc gets hot enough at stock speeds, I can't see OCing to 2GHz being a great idea...
What temp does yours normally run at??? mine seems to be cooler than my x10 was.. currently at 26degrees.
I couldn't say what the exact temperature is (how does one go about measuring it?), all I know is when I play games on it, it gets warm in the area surrounding the noise cancellation mic.
Not ridiculously so but warm enough that you can feel it when holding the phone.
How odd!!.. I could have sworn it I'd seen it in the "about phone" menu.. but it's not there.. anyhow.. I have "battery indicator" installed by darshan - gives me a percentage icon in the status bar, which when you drag the status bar down it tells you the temp of the battery too.
what's the normal speed before it was overclock to 1ghz?
spngbby said:
Can anyone please tell me how long did it take to root 'arc' using gingerbreak.apk?
I have unlocked the bootloader successfully, downloaded gingerbreak.apk, copied it to sd card, started it, choosed 'Root' and it started like 15 minutes ago. I'm still having: 'Rooting... Running exploit... This may take few minutes...' message.
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I used the v1.2 of gingerbreak and it was less than a min. it did not format my sd card. hhmm i did reboot before trying to run the apk.
regards
bewrong666 said:
what's the normal speed before it was overclock to 1ghz?
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Wait WHAT!? It hasn't been overclocked yet The speed was always 1ghz
emann56 said:
Wait WHAT!? It hasn't been overclocked yet The speed was always 1ghz
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okay you've answered my question
Step666 said:
My Arc gets hot enough at stock speeds, I can't see OCing to 2GHz being a great idea...
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good point +1
Touranaga said:
good point +1
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maybe about 1.3 to 1.5 ghz overclock might do it..hope someone can come up with the xrecovery fast so we can customize our arc fully.
spngbby said:
Can anyone please tell me how long did it take to root 'arc' using gingerbreak.apk?
I have unlocked the bootloader successfully, downloaded gingerbreak.apk, copied it to sd card, started it, choosed 'Root' and it started like 15 minutes ago. I'm still having: 'Rooting... Running exploit... This may take few minutes...' message.
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have you turned on usb debugging?
What is the safest speed you can overclock the samsung epic 4g? I am using the Tegrak overclock right now, and I found out the ultimate can run up to 2ghz.
That doesn't work. You have to be using a custom kernel to overclock the Epic and it is only safe up to 1.4ghz.
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That doesn't work. You have to be using a custom kernel to overclock the Epic and it is only safe up to 1.4ghz.
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FYI, complete newb to this stuff, so please bear with me. Are you saying that it takes a custom kernal for the Tegrak Ulitimate, or the the version I have right now? With the Tegrak Overclock, I put it at 1.3 and it seems noticably faster.
Tegrak ultimate shouldn't work at all, and you're lucky it didn't royally screw up your phone without a kernel with support for overclocking. Look in development and select a custom kernel to fit your tastes then download either SetCPU or OverClock widget and use one of them to raise the clock speed on your phone. I recommend either of those because they are tried and tested methods.
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Tegrak ultimate shouldn't work at all, and you're lucky it didn't royally screw up your phone without a kernel with support for overclocking. Look in development and select a custom kernel to fit your tastes then download either SetCPU or OverClock widget and use one of them to raise the clock speed on your phone. I recommend either of those because they are tried and tested methods.
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Weird, on the android market it says that it (the standard Tegrak) works with stock kernels, custom kernels, and custom roms. I checked before installing it and I just double checked it now
For the record, it has been a while since I played with my phone, but it's kernel right now is 2.6.32.9
063_XOBX said:
Tegrak ultimate shouldn't work at all, and you're lucky it didn't royally screw up your phone without a kernel with support for overclocking. Look in development and select a custom kernel to fit your tastes then download either SetCPU or OverClock widget and use one of them to raise the clock speed on your phone. I recommend either of those because they are tried and tested methods.
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Another thought; I've had setcpu for a while, but didn't find much use for it as the phone is already operating at 1GHZ, which is the max SetCPU will allow the phone to work.
Because there isn't a kernel that support OverClocking installed.Once you have an overclock-compatible kernel installed SetCPU can raise the CPU speed.
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Because there isn't a kernel that support OverClocking installed.Once you have an overclock-compatible kernel installed SetCPU can raise the CPU speed.
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I see. Thanks for the info
Also, while tegrak may work I strongly recommend a custom kernel for added stability, along with overclock capabilities up to 1.4ghz (depending on if your phone can handle it) undervolting and other useful features.
Each phone is different. Some phones can handle 1.4ghz, others can't even handle 1.2ghz. You just have to test it out and see what your phone can handle.
063_XOBX said:
Also, while tegrak may work I strongly recommend a custom kernel for added stability, along with overclock capabilities up to 1.4ghz (depending on if your phone can handle it) undervolting and other useful features.
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Any recommendations for a custom kernel?
qbking77 said:
Each phone is different. Some phones can handle 1.4ghz, others can't even handle 1.2ghz. You just have to test it out and see what your phone can handle.
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It seemed to hand 1.3 just fine, but I still backed it down to 1.0 until I get the custom kernel for it.
Grimace78 said:
Any recommendations for a custom kernel?
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I personally use Twilite Zone.
063_XOBX said:
I personally use Twilite Zone.
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Got a link? I looked but couldn't find it.
Grimace78 said:
Got a link? I looked but couldn't find it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976197&highlight=twilight+zone
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976197&highlight=twilight+zone
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Thank you
After reading the link to Twilite, I am interested in running the SyndicateROM Frozen. Any chance someone could walk me through the steps? I'm not being lazy and am doing research, just want to make sure I don't screw up my phone. I am at work right now, so I haven't even attempted to get Twilite yet. Perhaps getting the new rom would accomplish two things at once??
Edit: After some reading I think I will be ok, but if anyone wants to chime in then feel free.
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After reading the link to Twilite, I am interested in running the SyndicateROM Frozen. Any chance someone could walk me through the steps? I'm not being lazy and am doing research, just want to make sure I don't screw up my phone. I am at work right now, so I haven't even attempted to get Twilite yet. Perhaps getting the new rom would accomplish two things at once??
Edit: After some reading I think I will be ok, but if anyone wants to chime in then feel free.
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Here you go man! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy2Et6qVGdo
I made this video and it should help you out. The twilight kernel comes with the syndicate rom so you don't need to flash it since it already comes with the rom.
Is there any truth to a post I read stating some kernels support Wifi Tether and others don't?
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I am new to the whole idea of undervolting. I have previously overclocked my phone's but never undervolted. Is there a how to guide anywhere in the forums that i failed to find, if not can someone explain the steps and settings that they found stable on their phones with out a significant performance decrease. I am already rooted and have an overclock/undervolt kernal installed. I apologize if i missed this topic in a search.
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First step would be to go to the kernel thread and see how/what app should be used for the under volt/governor/i/o scheduler settings and install that. Different kernel makers may want you to use different methods.
Second, under volt settings will be different for every phone as the hardware is different. The best way is to take down every frequency 25mV at a time and do not use set at boot or any option like that. The reason for this is that you need to make sure your phone will be stable. If you set at boot and go too far and your phone reboots, you may be stuck in a boot loop and have to reinstall your ROM. After trying your phone for awhile and it seems stable reduce the voltage again and try it out continuing these steps until your phone becomes unstable/reboots/lags then raise your voltages the next step up. Try again for a bit and if all is well then you can utilize the set at boot option.
Remember every phone is different, only lower your voltages till what is good for you, doesn't matter if someone else with same ROM kernel can under volt further, they just have different hardware.
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I would check this page out too..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369817
Hello people !
First a Fall , I am a member since a long time here , but never used to interact as i had jumped off the android bandwagon . Now i am back with a band with my new purchase of a really Awesome Samsung S3 :fingers-crossed:
i need Some help from you guys for a project i am writing .
I am writing on how under-clocking and over clocking an android SmartPhone would affect its hardware & software. mainly Focusing on How would the changed affect its performance , Stability and Battery life . And finally arriving at an optimum clock speed and if possible and algorithm to finding that optimum clock speed if its there .
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I had an xperia play which i as using a long time back . its working perfectly fine . I decided to use it as i know the risks of over-clocking and how it may be dangerous to use on my primary phone atm .
All i am asking you guys is how can i go about this ? what all do i need to do to change the clock speed of my play ?
what apps can help me measure the battery life , stability and perfomance cahnges ?
basically please help me in anyway you can !
i will credit everyone in my study who helps :victory:
lets see the starrt of a great project !
hackerevan said:
Hello people !
First a Fall , I am a member since a long time here , but never used to interact as i had jumped off the android bandwagon . Now i am back with a band with my new purchase of a really Awesome Samsung S3 :fingers-crossed:
i need Some help from you guys for a project i am writing .
I had an xperia play which i as using a long time back . its working perfectly fine . I decided to use it as i know the risks of over-clocking and how it may be dangerous to use on my primary phone atm .
All i am asking you guys is how can i go about this ? what all do i need to do to change the clock speed of my play ?
what apps can help me measure the battery life , stability and perfomance cahnges ?
basically please help me in anyway you can !
i will credit everyone in my study who helps :victory:
lets see the starrt of a great project !
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To over clock or vice versa, you need to have a custom kernel that allows it. A custom ROM is also good, but not always needed, but it is suggested Some apps on the market have over clocking abilities but an over clocking kernel is needed that is compatible. Also those apps have a kernel, but is specific to some devices. But go to your device's forums and find a kernel that has over clocking abilities then flash it. Some apps just allow you to over clock to the SET speeds of the kernel being used. Also for battery life, I suggest you use betterbattery stats on the market.
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SO which config would be the best ?
hey Thanks for your help bro !
considering i am already in the forums for my device , can someone recommend the best kernel and the best rom to install ?
And how do i go about installing it ?
PLease keep in mind it should be able to support maximum over clocking and underclocking .
Thanks !
Underclocking is doable with just root access, which can be obtained by using ZergRush. This will only work on firmware 4.0.2.A.0.58 or lower.
For overclocking, I would recommend DooMKerneL which requires an unlocked bootloader. It supports frequencies of 134MHz to 2GHz, though I think the stock kernel can go down to 122MHz or 128MHz or something (DooM changed the frequency table in his kernel).
To test the stability of your phone after overclocking, you can run stress tests with StabilityTest. Underclocking will not change the stability of the phone, it'll just make it slower.
My favorite ROM is Gin2JB, although anything stock-gingerbread-based should work just as well.
For testing performance, I recommend AnTuTu
Thanks again
Thanks for your help !
Now one question , does doomkernel have inbuilt over clocking and under clocking ?
also as you said it resitricts the underclocking to 134 Mhz but the stock goes to 122 Mhz . isnt thier a way to make this one also go the lowest possible value?
and what about the Adreno 205 @ 245 MHz GPU that the play has .. can we overclock underclock that somehow ?
Thanks again
Yes overclocking capability is built into DooMKerneL, and of course underclocking. You'd have to talk to DooM about putting in lower frequencies if you want anything lower than 134MHz in his kernel. He tried overclocking the GPU at one point, but it oddly gave worse performance in a blind-test so he removed it.
While we're one the subject of over clocking, you NEED an app like SetCPU to overclock right? Just wanna make sure DooMkernel isn't already set to 2.ghz. Yeah probably a noob question...
Xperia Player said:
While we're one the subject of over clocking, you NEED an app like SetCPU to overclock right? Just wanna make sure DooMkernel isn't already set to 2.ghz. Yeah probably a noob question...
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Yes, you need an overclocking app. I think it defaults to Min:249Mhz Max:1017MHz. The Min might be lower, dunno. The Max definitely is 1017MHz (1GHZ) until you specifically tell it to overclock though
I would like it if theres a kernel that ALSO allows to underclock and overclock teh GPU AND CPU .
Otherwise i take it , Doom is the best to go forward with right ?