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HTC Kaiser unboxing; the over te top HTC Hermes?

Check this link:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/05/24/htc-kaiser-unboxing/#more-931
It is smaller and a little more refined than the TyTN's and does an excellent job at navigating.
Check it out..........

besides being smaller, it's more "rounded" in comparison to the tytn, so it feels much smaller in the hand/pocket.
i think the coolest thing in the open/close system, that has changed and is not the same comparing to the tytn/wizard. it feels rock solid.

simonk12 said:
besides being smaller, it's more "rounded" in comparison to the tytn, so it feels much smaller in the hand/pocket.
i think the coolest thing in the open/close system, that has changed and is not the same comparing to the tytn/wizard. it feels rock solid.
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To mee it seems you allready held this one.....am I right?
If so, then I am very jealous!
Tell us more!

i wonder how long the battery will last with hsupa and gps!!! i'd give it 3-4 hours! but i'm still considering it as an upgrade!

fone_fanatic said:
i wonder how long the battery will last with hsupa and gps!!! i'd give it 3-4 hours! but i'm still considering it as an upgrade!
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I was also wondering about the batery life.....

Rom:256 Ram:128 thats what i was looking for

hellejoep said:
To mee it seems you allready held this one.....am I right?
If so, then I am very jealous!
Tell us more!
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yep, i did
i only played with it for a few minutes. i think i "bend" thingie is more solid than i thought it would be. besides that, i liked the positioning of the sim card slot. easier to access than the tytn. no need to get the battery out.

simonk12 said:
yep, i did
i only played with it for a few minutes. i think i "bend" thingie is more solid than i thought it would be. besides that, i liked the positioning of the sim card slot. easier to access than the tytn. no need to get the battery out.
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Where is the sim slot located then; like the microSD slot on the Hermes?

I will most definately go for this when it is available. The memory and the internal GPS antenna is the key for me.

When it'll arrives in the stores?

hknoener said:
When it'll arrives in the stores?
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One of the rags indicate it will be released in August of 07. I have not seen an official announcement though.

There was a guy selling one not too far from me. I could have bought it but declined as I the only really desire pushing me was the one to have something as soon as it's out, (which isn't always the best ). He sold it Ebay for £390 which isn't too bad considering it's not out yet. I think the August date should be fairly accurate.

hellejoep said:
Where is the sim slot located then; like the microSD slot on the Hermes?
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the sim is located on the sliding part. when you slide out to reveal the keyboard, it's behind the screen
the card slot is located on the sliding part as well, at the bottom of the device.

Whew.... nice device! I may be leaping...

hknoener said:
When it'll arrives in the stores?
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The article says October.

Sleuth255 said:
Whew.... nice device! I may be leaping...
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Good. I am glad you said that. I am definately leaping. But if you leap as well, I can be assured that there will be some great enhancements for it. Fantastic news!

chainbolt said:
The article says October.
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I saw one that said August. Frankly, I never believe any of them. When it comes, I will buy it (unless we start hearing some nighmare stories about it).

Anyone has any idea if T-Mobile is going to release it own branded HTC Kaiser (as MDA Vario III - for example)? My contract is going to finish around December/January, so I'd be happy to get an upgrade as xmas/new year gift.

Sleuth255 said:
Whew.... nice device! I may be leaping...
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Me too! YAY!

If only the screen was 640X480. I saw the Toshiba G900 at MEDC and couldn't believe it.

windows phone 7 for LG KS20?

Does anyone know that Windows phone 7 compatible with LG KS20 ?
I am really happy when have some news.

Not to sure if they've been made official yet, but the minimum specs for phone 7 are very high end, and include specialised hardware buttons. I'm not sure any device meets the specs so I wouldn't hold you're breath.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

thank for replying, so I still have to wait and see

phamtuanchip said:
thank for replying, so I still have to wait and see
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xD haha... no, you better save some money and just buy a new wp7 handset when the first 5 or 6 devices are available in your area. i've got a hd2 and a touch diamond but still saving money to get me a new one :/

phamtuanchip said:
Does anyone know that Windows phone 7 compatible with LG KS20 ?
I am really happy when have some news.
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No phone will be able to be upgraded from WM6.x to WP7.

Nope...
I doubt it... Just get a theme or shell... And uhm... i think our devices should be able to run wp7 apps anyway..

strange_nu_kid said:
xD haha... no, you better save some money and just buy a new wp7 handset when the first 5 or 6 devices are available in your area. i've got a hd2 and a touch diamond but still saving money to get me a new one :/
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thank, I am changing my mind to by the I-phone then hope we will have more support from this famous forum

What's an I-phone?

phamtuanchip said:
thank, I am changing my mind to by the I-phone then hope we will have more support from this famous forum
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You have the same amount of luck having iOS ported to your phone as you do WP7.

Windows Phone 7 Device List

With so many threads flying around regarding confirmed/rumored WP7 devices, I decided to start this thread. This will have a list of all the WP7 devices with XDA-Forum links as well as some from other sources.
My research on this was pretty precipitous. As a result, not everything will be correct. I may have included the same phone twice under different names or may not have included some other phone. Whichever the case, please post here or send a PM and I will fix it asap. Otherwise, enjoy this first-on-the-web complete list of WP7 phones
HTC
1)HD3/HD7 Unconfirmed
Leaked WP7 HD7 Details for O2 Germany
HTC HD7 Specs
HTC HD7 spec sheet and more pics
2)Trophy 7 Unconfirmed
HTC 7 TROPHY specs
3)Mozart/Schubert Unconfirmed
Specs and video of the HTC Mozart???
4)Surround/T8788 Unconfirmed
HTC's Windows Phone 7-equipped T8788 breaks cover for AT&T
LG
1)Optimus 7 Confirmed
LG showcases Optimus 7 (gsmArena)
LG Optimus 7 Demo
2)e900 Unconfirmed
Engadget
1800PocketPC
3)c900
Engadget
Samsung
1)Cetus/i917Unconfirmed
Engadget
2)i8700Unconfirmed
Engadget
Asus
1)UnnamedUnconfirmed
ASUS Windows Phone 7 device
Engadget
Dell
1)LightningUnconfirmed
Engadget

Reserved, in case I run out of room in the first post

Would also be good if you could give a brief spec list for each device...such as memory and camera megapixels

Thanks.
I was gonna do that, but I ran out of time.
I'll do it in a little bit.

theomni said:
enjoy this first-on-the-web complete list of WP7 phones
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Might want to check out these...
http://windowsphone7central.com/devices.php
http://wmpoweruser.com/wp7-device-hub/

RustyGrom said:
Might want to check out these...
http://windowsphone7central.com/devices.php
http://wmpoweruser.com/wp7-device-hub/
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lol
I guess I should change it to first one on xda

I can assure that the samsung i8700 will be available on Italian market

giuvilas said:
I can assure that the samsung i8700 will be available on Italian market
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I marked it as unconfirmed if the companies haven't officially announced it yet.

theomni said:
I marked it as unconfirmed if the companies haven't officially announced it yet.
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ok. we will announce it in a couple of weeks. it should be sold within the next month

are there any informations about a LTE Windows Phone 7 device?

giuvilas said:
ok. we will announce it in a couple of weeks. it should be sold within the next month
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Wild guess... it will be announced on October 11th and released on October 21st?

maybe this is enough. I did a video..but unfortunately i can't share it...maybe i'll post some other pict
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2936/cetus1.jpg
EDIT: this is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfKdWRQBBcQ

giuvilas said:
maybe this is enough. I did a video..but unfortunately i can't share it...maybe i'll post some other pict
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2936/cetus1.jpg
EDIT: this is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfKdWRQBBcQ
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Thanks. Do you know the specs? Storage? Screen size?

RustyGrom said:
Thanks. Do you know the specs? Storage? Screen size?
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The screen is a 4 inch SuperAMOLED. the battery is a 1500 mA.
i don't know about the cpu and ram..but i think that the cpu is 1ghz. my prototype has 8gb of storage..and i don't know if will arrive a 16gb version

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giuvilas said:
Video deleted
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why? what happened?

CPU is probably Samsung's 1ghz Hummingbird.

theomni said:
CPU is probably Samsung's 1ghz Hummingbird.
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Fingers crossed that it will (Cus that'll most likely mean an SGX540 GPU), but alot here have been saying it'll be a first gen snapdragon with the paltry Adreno200 GPU. ><

here is another video of GT-I8700 handset. 13mins long.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxKSErSJToA

powersquad said:
here is another video of GT-I8700 handset. 13mins long.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxKSErSJToA
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Great find

Hi, is possible to get the rom on HTC Desire Z for TP2?

Be coz they are very similar. And I am wondering would that be possible?

Similar look but inside they are very different. so, the answer is NO.

Raul^ said:
Similar look but inside they are very different. so, the answer is NO.
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LOL +1. They're not even close to being similar from a development/ROM porting standpoint.

hy3456 said:
Be coz they are very similar. And I am wondering would that be possible?
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pretty much all the android roms will look the same (aside from sense)

Isn't the G1 the closest to our Touch Pro 2's?

Broman400 said:
Isn't the G1 the closest to our Touch Pro 2's?
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Hero is probably the closest, although the G1 is close.

and even if the tp2 would be close to the desire z
we are not allowed to port any htc sense to other devices anymore...
at least in a lot of countries...
so yes...the answer would be no...
even though i would love to have sense on my tp2...

That's odd because the hd2 has a few desire ports that haven't been taken down due to copyright

hy3456 said:
Be coz they are very similar. And I am wondering would that be possible?
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Both of them are WVGA and have keyboards, but they aren't similar hardware-wise.
tsukisan said:
That's odd because the hd2 has a few desire ports that haven't been taken down due to copyright
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I wondered the same.

[DUMP] G1 Blaze (G2 prototype)

As mentioned on IRC a long time ago, here is the dump of the G2 prototype, called 'G1 Blaze'
I'm not sure how useful this is now, but I thought I'd put it up for everyone's curiosity. Please feel free to mirror elsewhere.
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1pGU044HRD_RTlOR1lialN0b0k

Very interesting. Was planning on sleeping. That is now postponed.
Thanks for this!

Why on earth didn't they keep the black it looks so much better then this sort of grey
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

mmcblk0, file size: 4GB.
"The missing 2GB", episode 2?
Guessing that eMMC was partitioned in MLC mode on this one.
So, the differences are: black housing, secondary mic, AMOLED screen, 4GB of internal memory. Anything else?
And that would be an even more awesome device if HTC released it without these changes.

is here wrong place to post it?

masterismos said:
is here wrong place to post it?
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Can you explain why? Development section is the right one for this thing IMO.

NeverGone\RU said:
Can you explain why? Development section is the right one for this thing IMO.
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the torrent file is the rom? about the google drive when i press the link nothing downloads. im saying that i dont see smth for development (rom,mod,tweaks,etc) sorry if im wrong. i see only info.

masterismos said:
the torrent file is the rom? about the google drive when i press the link nothing downloads. im saying that i dont see smth for development (rom,mod,tweaks,etc) sorry if im wrong. i see only info.
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It's not a ROM. Read the thread title.
It's a DUMP from the G2 PROTOTYPE.
It contains all partitions' dump, including HBoot (v.0.55.2000 ENG, never seen before), Radio, System and all the other things.
And BTW I downloaded it and everything's fine for me.
Copied this file to my Dropbox as a mirror.
@OP: Can you provide some more photos of the device (or maybe side-by-side ones that you've talked about on IRC)? I'm VERY interested in PCB photos, but if you don't want to disassemble the phone, it's up to you

(/QUOTE)So, the differences are: black housing, secondary mic, AMOLED screen, 4GB of internal memory. Anything else?
And that would be an even more awesome device if HTC released it without these changes.[/QUOTE]
+1 I think they went the wrong direction changing the screen and making it gray instead of black. Idk why they didn't leave it black. It looks f***in sweet black... lol
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA Premium App

NeverGone\RU said:
It's not a ROM. Read the thread title.
It's a DUMP from the G2 PROTOTYPE.
It contains all partitions' dump, including HBoot (v.0.55.2000 ENG, never seen before), Radio, System and all the other things.
And BTW I downloaded it and everything's fine for me.
Copied this file to my Dropbox as a mirror.
@OP: Can you provide some more photos of the device (or maybe side-by-side ones that you've talked about on IRC)? I'm VERY interested in PCB photos, but if you don't want to disassemble the phone, it's up to you
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ok now i understand. sorry

How did you manage this compression? 7.4 GB inside of a 670 MB file?

In all curiousity, did the prototype have the Z-hinge?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/25/htc-vision-headed-to-t-mobile-in-new-spy-shot-dubbed-g1-blaze
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/04/htc-vision-with-android-full-qwerty-in-the-wild/
Check it out

Pretty cool the prototype. Dunno about you guys but I kinda wished our DZs came with an AMOLED screen like that. Wonder what we can do with those files..

johrie said:
Why on earth didn't they keep the black it looks so much better then this sort of grey
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I actually got to speak with the Product Manager for the G2 and she said their market survey indicated the gray/silver color was preferred.
NeverGone\RU said:
mmcblk0, file size: 4GB.
"The missing 2GB", episode 2?
Guessing that eMMC was partitioned in MLC mode on this one.
So, the differences are: black housing, secondary mic, AMOLED screen, 4GB of internal memory. Anything else?
And that would be an even more awesome device if HTC released it without these changes.
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Those are the difference I've noticed.
masterismos said:
the torrent file is the rom? about the google drive when i press the link nothing downloads. im saying that i dont see smth for development (rom,mod,tweaks,etc) sorry if im wrong. i see only info.
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The torrent was created of the blaze.7z with openbittorrent.com and publicbt.com trackers, as well as the static link to the Google Doc host.
NeverGone\RU said:
@OP: Can you provide some more photos of the device (or maybe side-by-side ones that you've talked about on IRC)? I'm VERY interested in PCB photos, but if you don't want to disassemble the phone, it's up to you
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More photos attached. I don't care about serial numbers. The G2 was sent to China and the G1Blaze is only a test device now.
captainreynolds said:
How did you manage this compression? 7.4 GB inside of a 670 MB file?
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Much of the dump is wasted space, and the 2 nandroids are pretty much copies of the dump, so compress to insignificant space.
ChpStcksRlz said:
In all curiousity, did the prototype have the Z-hinge?
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The physical design of the G1blaze is pretty much identical to the G2, with the differences called out above.
xudsa II USERT said:
Pretty cool the prototype. Dunno about you guys but I kinda wished our DZs came with an AMOLED screen like that. Wonder what we can do with those files..
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The photos should show the pentile OLED, of which I am not a fan. I already tried to replace the OLED with a G2 LCD and found out the ribbon connectors are not compatible.

You are a quote master. Thanks for all of this, really cool! This makes me wish HTC would be making another QWERTY slider like our beloved G2 though

Dam I never knew this existed amoled display would've been sick on this phone with that black trim
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA

Personally I prefer the silver/grey. Look more classy IMO.
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

This makes sooo sad!!
If I knew about this waiting for my G2 I prolly would have been real upset knowing there was always going to be a better version of the phone I loved!!
Tmobile G2 = The overly used silver benz everyone drives!
G1 Blaze = Would have delivered exactly what everyone was expecting! =/
....So much prettier, ....8mb camera w/ stock 2.2?
OP Why did take away so many capabilities? ....and know where I can Buy one? Seriously! ^_^

xhitz said:
This makes sooo sad!!
If I knew about this waiting for my G2 I prolly would have been real upset knowing there was always going to be a better version of the phone I loved!!
Tmobile G2 = The overly used silver benz everyone drives!
G1 Blaze = Would have delivered exactly what everyone was expecting! =/
....So much prettier, ....8mb camera w/ stock 2.2?
OP Why did take away so many capabilities? ....and know where I can Buy one? Seriously! ^_^
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I don't see what makes you sad here...
1) this prototype has amoled POS display. SLCD > amoled.
2) Slow performing 4GB internal storage vs FAST performing 2GB. I'll take the faster anyday, since the device supports external add-on.
3) If by "8mb" you mean "8 MP", I don't see anything indicating such.
4) Ugly painted black plain prototype. Easy to scratch off paint and would quickly look like junk. They paint prototypes like that to make them nondescript.
What we have is basically *superior* to this prototype. The next step up is the HTC DOUBLESHOT.