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Flash O2 XDA Diamond? To Remove Branded Rom?

Hi guys ... I will probably be getting a O2 XDA Diamond...
The O2 Diamond has a blue branded Touchflow Gui...
Will there be anyway to install the Original HTC software on it so i have the nice Black Menu?

yep you have to install a hardspl, either olipro's [which i think is unreleased] or the one made by the diamond project team.
then you can flash a new rom.
however, check your rom version in settings->system->device information
if it reads 1.34.831.1
it means you have a new spl that prevents you from flashing hardspl until the experts here create a work-around.
i hope this helps
Rory

On a related note, I was considering getting the O2 XDA Diamond but putting the black TouchFLO 3D on it. However, I've now decided to get a normal HTC Touch Diamond, because I'm lazy and I don't want to flash a new ROM for a number of reasons.

Dark Fire said:
On a related note, I was considering getting the O2 XDA Diamond but putting the black TouchFLO 3D on it. However, I've now decided to get a normal HTC Touch Diamond, because I'm lazy and I don't want to flash a new ROM for a number of reasons.
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is that even related?
no, didnt even ask about the device, or comment on it

rorydaredkign said:
yep you have to install a hardspl, either olipro's [which i think is unreleased] or the one made by the diamond project team.
then you can flash a new rom.
however, check your rom version in settings->system->device information
if it reads 1.34.831.1
it means you have a new spl that prevents you from flashing hardspl until the experts here create a work-around.
i hope this helps
Rory
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ALL Diamonds ship with 1.34.831.1 but "we" (Olipro) is working out a way to flash it....

rorydaredkign said:
is that even related?
no, didnt even ask about the device, or comment on it
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It was a related comment. I informed others of a decision I made, to avoid this problem - a decision which will save time and effort.
You always have to attack...

I dont think ill be getting the htc modell becaus i would have to pay much more...
Because of the o2 contract that i have in august i can re new the contract an will get a o2 xda for about 100 euro... so i think ill be sticking to this modell..
Please keep this thread up 2 date guys... Good work so far...

Well I´m pretty new to this. Im gonna get a XDA Diamond too within these weeks. But as mentioned the blue TouchFlow theme from O2 is really ugly in my opinion. So maybe someone can explain me how it is possible to change the ROM to get the original black theme from HTC.
What is necessary for that to work, what changes would that bring to my system (all programs lost?) and what dangers come along with that?
I appreciate your answers. Thanks.

rorydaredkign said:
is that even related?
no, didnt even ask about the device, or comment on it
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YeaH! you're right!:D

horstborsch said:
Well I´m pretty new to this. Im gonna get a XDA Diamond too within these weeks. But as mentioned the blue TouchFlow theme from O2 is really ugly in my opinion. So maybe someone can explain me how it is possible to change the ROM to get the original black theme from HTC.
What is necessary for that to work, what changes would that bring to my system (all programs lost?) and what dangers come along with that?
I appreciate your answers. Thanks.
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c´mon guys, please give me some information on this.

Ok .
First of all you can take one of two options.
1) Hard SPL the device and flash a new ROM that someone has mirrored here.
Look here for Hard SPL ( Read carefully as not all Diamonds can be Hard SPl'd as yet)
HardSPL Here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395640
ROM is here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394985
Hard SPL your device as per the Instructions then run the ROM update that you would have downloaded above . Job Done.
2) Wait until someone removes the 3G Interface from a Diamond (HTC Maila) and then apply that cab to replace your blue one.
Hope this helps
If you read the very first thread in this forum then you would have had an idea on what you was asking.

Thank you very much for your answer. So just to get me right. If i need a german ROM, is there a chance, as far as the new ROM version (probably comming with the german xda) is HardSPL useable, to flash another german HTC ROM on to it (if someone is providing it)?
And the last question, do i loose all my installed or preinstalled apps on my device, such as TOMTOM when i flash a new (other) ROM?

Thank you very much for your answer. So just to get me right. If i need a german ROM, is there a chance, as far as the new ROM version (probably comming with the german xda) is HardSPL useable, to flash another german HTC ROM on to it (if someone is providing it)?
If its an O2 ROM then as you have an O2 device you may not need to Hard SPL but not sure on that one.
As long as you Hard SPL the device then you will be able to flash any ROM that turns up on this forum on your device. Please read the post I pointed out to you, as one of the SPL's shipping on the Diamond will not work and you may brick your device
And the last question, do i loose all my installed or preinstalled apps on my device, such as TOMTOM when i flash a new (other) ROM?
When you flash a device it will set it back to a ROM only . EG all the apps etc you have installed will be gone. TomTom if available on the device ROM will be on it as well (Although I thought O2 pefered Copilot) . If not have a look around the Forums and find a suitable TomTom cab for the device.
Again if you spend some time reading some of the threads on here and within other devices you will start to understand more .

Ok guys so hold us up to date on this.... Im getting my O2 phone in 2 weeks and I think I wont like the blue TF3D.

Ok guys... so is there any new information on getting the branded colour touchflow 3d to the orignial black one? Someone here mentioned doing it without any hardspl stuff via a CAB file or something....
ANy news on this?
Thx Busta

Here in germany it's possible to renew your contract through several online shops. When doing so, you can get any device you want. You usually also get a better deal than renewing through O2. Try if this is possible in your country and get a HTC device!
The only advantage of getting an O2 device is, that you get a refurbished device sent to you in case of a waranty return and don't have to send it in for repair. (At least that's my experience with the hermes aka. XDA Trion I had)

Dark Fire said:
On a related note, I was considering getting the O2 XDA Diamond but putting the black TouchFLO 3D on it. However, I've now decided to get a normal HTC Touch Diamond, because I'm lazy and I don't want to flash a new ROM for a number of reasons.
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Whats the point of getting a HTC Touch Diamond then? The "fun" begins with cooked ROM flashing and since the Touch Diamond seems to be more and more popular, some very nice ROMs will be out in the near future. Can't wait to see where this is going...

horstborsch said:
Thank you very much for your answer. So just to get me right. If i need a german ROM, is there a chance, as far as the new ROM version (probably comming with the german xda) is HardSPL useable, to flash another german HTC ROM on to it (if someone is providing it)?
And the last question, do i loose all my installed or preinstalled apps on my device, such as TOMTOM when i flash a new (other) ROM?
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Flashing to another ROM with HArdsSPL wipes out all in your RAM and ROM memory. it over writes al registries.
Also TomTom. A back-up is not advisable as it will not run, or cause bigger problems.

Black TouchFlo 3D Cab
for all the guys, they would like to remove the blue ugly O2 TouchFlo 3D skin, without flashing the Diamond! ;-)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2360330&postcount=240

Read and search mate !
I did as i'm a total noob and still managed to install hardspl and the new rom !
Its all here to be found

Soo meny roms, witch is the best?

just upgraded to the touch diamond from the e650... but there seem to be LOADS more roms for this phone, im just wondering what the best one is or what is the update for my one.
rom ver:1.93.405.1 wwe
rom date :08/06/08
radio:1.00.25.05
i tryed to download am updated rom from htc site by adding my s/n but it doesnt let me, i gues my phone is an inport from hong kong :S tho it have registerd on the uk site :S
would be greatfull if someone can help, best cooked rom and updated standerd rom???

could also have somethink to do with its from orange??? tried to look on the orange website but couldnt find my phone on ther :S
so if anyone knows of a orange rom update too would be good. tho i dont want ****y orange branding

try to download the newest htc rom with Internet Explorer

use this as serial on htc website : ht822gn28022
btw, try cooked roms, they are lot better than stocks and dont ask which one is best coz different people likes different roms

I ordered mine through Hong Kong also (im from Australia), and like you I cant get a 'stock' ROM to download via the official site, and even if you get someone else to download it for you, it comes up as the wrong ROM type when you attempt to flash it.
There is a Telstra ROM floating around that you can download via unofficial means, and I got that to install ok, but it has a heap of bigpond specific links on it.. not to mention doesnt actually work without a Telstra SIM (plus its a boring ROM anyway).
As for cooked ROM's, yes id recommend just choose one you like, they are all decent, some just have better applications or aesthetics which is nice, however if I had my time again, I might think twice, because there is a hard-reset issue that has been floating around for quite a few users... and the fixes havent worked, so I pretty much need to get a new phone now.

before you loose hours and hours trying
try the BsB-o, best rom here

yo adsoxda my diamond was on orange france, from france i cannot use my model number on htc website as well, but i used that one (ht822gn28022) which wasnt come frome my phone and downloaded rom, flashed and enjojed for couple of days before i moved to cooked . Gary dont forget about hard spl and mitty have fun

Try bort rom.i think the best

I recommend you the Best ROM! it's the Best!

make your own rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513311

BSB 6.5Q only Titanium
it works great for me!!!!
LESS RAM USAGE, FAST, STABLE AND FULLY WORKING WITH iGO, S2U2 and CHANGESCREEN!
THE TOP!

"best" is relative ... it all depends on what you want - features? Speed? Stability? Fancy animations? etc etc.
I've gone through a few ROMs, and really like Dia Duit's ROM. Very stable, very fast, lots of memory.The only way to find out for sure is to try it for yourself.

Of course it's so!

thanks people tryed a few and useing bsb one, not sure witch revs tho. i install the hard spl befor it too.
meny thanks

Yes, always make sure you Hard-SPL before flashing any ROM, and I'd also strongly recommend to MTTY before any flash, and it'll be a much more pleasant experience flashing and trying different ROM's!
Good luck, enjoy!

I love c_shekhar 's ROM.

Energy ROM the best! =D

Is my Diamond bricked?

Hi evreryone, i have a wm6.1 FRA (1.93) Diamond, and with some flashs i turn it to wm6.5 21000. the process success with using available tools in XDA.
my diamond become a: HardSPL Onilex, with wm6.5 21000 FRA (RUU_Topaz_l3v5y_09071504_N_FRA_5.2.21925.5.3.0_2.06.502 exactly)
BUT, with the new wm6.5.1 version released, i want to get it into my ppc.
the only release type i found is Here.
They talk about new style kitchen. blablabla
i found it too difficulte to build a NBH rom, as u know, im not a good cooker
the first attempt failed (error 244, model id is wrong or something like that)
after some research, i use NBHUtil to change device ID.
OK, after building and changing ID, i ve got a "ruu_signed.nbh"
I use DiamonCustomRUU.exe to flash. ---> everything OK ---> Rom successfully Flashed.
Unfortunately, when i reboot my diamond, the device brick after the HTC animation (Dark screen ) (yes the bootloader is fine, but the device STOPs after playing HTC animation)
As i saw in some threads, i have a chance to revive my device.
Can you please help me by posting ur opinion or solution ?

fadelovesky said:
Hi evreryone, i have a wm6.1 FRA (1.93) Diamond, and with some flashs i turn it to wm6.5 21000. the process success with using available tools in XDA.
my diamond become a: HardSPL Onilex, with wm6.5 21000 FRA (RUU_Topaz_l3v5y_09071504_N_FRA_5.2.21925.5.3.0_2.06.502 exactly)
BUT, with the new wm6.5.1 version released, i want to get it into my ppc.
the only release type i found is Here.
They talk about new style kitchen. blablabla
i found it too difficulte to build a NBH rom, as u know, im not a good cooker
the first attempt failed (error 244, model id is wrong or something like that)
after some research, i use NBHUtil to change device ID.
OK, after building and changing ID, i ve got a "ruu_signed.nbh"
I use DiamonCustomRUU.exe to flash. ---> everything OK ---> Rom successfully Flashed.
Unfortunately, when i reboot my diamond, the device brick after the HTC animation (Dark screen ) (yes the bootloader is fine, but the device STOPs after playing HTC animation)
As i saw in some threads, i have a chance to revive my device.
Can you please help me by posting ur opinion or solution ?
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Hi
TRY Bootloader (Vol Down+Reset)
Then Flash another rom
Good luck

I would suggest the same as this should work fine.
Comment to sabes143: Was there really any need to quote any of the first post when your reply was directly below

R3PUBL1K said:
Comment to sabes143: Was there really any need to quote any of the first post when your reply was directly below
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Repetition is good for memory retention LOL
@Fadelovesky: Everyone here will say the same thing; Reflash with a known working ROM.
I am personally going to add my own recommendation to you & everyone else that reads this: {Please Do Not Take Offensively}
Stop trying to upgrade the ROM to the newest version. Especially if you don't know enough to repair what's wrong with it.
What is the point anyway? If you have a ROM that does what you want it to, then why even change at all. Newer DOES NOT mean better. Hell, in the world of Microsoft, Newer means more bugs, more useless crap taking valuable real estate, less reliability, & lots more memory consumption.
Next time the device may be Perma-Bricked. You're lucky you can still enter Bootloader. Thank the Gods for Hard-SPL {Thanx Olipro (LOL)}
If you want the Newest, Latest, Greatest, Bug-infested, Not designed for your device build {even tho you don't need it}; Then sit back, relax , & show a lil' patience. If there is a new build out, the real cooks will soon port it for our device.

Information overload :(

Ok, i must say you guys really have a great community here! It's booming with thread, updates, tweaks, fixes etc. for everything. I've browsed the forums, searched it and i always find several thread concerning the topic i need.
My problem though, is that i can't seem to put all the information i get together! I have been flashing my Diamond a couple times and fallen in love with WM6.5. Currently i have a small rom that i fight with when it comes to sms'ing and dialing/useing the phone. That's a big problem for me.
What i need is a advice really. I need a ROM on my phone that satisfies the following points (in prioritized order):
1. Phone working with number(only) keyboard when i enter a number (this is only a problem with my current rom l3v5y , 25. december). Also when i call one of them "press 1 for bla, 2 for blabla" i need to be able to enter keys, which i can't atm)
2. Texting (email, sms) working with a nice keyboard (ezinput) - not working atm.
3. Danish T9 (i'm really having problems getting this to work => i'm stuck with english dictionary atm)
4. Fast (i'd much rather have fast than fancy!) I don't need touchflo to slow me down.
5. Small (i like to have a lot of free memory) - i really don't need touchflo to hog it all
6. WM 6.5 is nice - it replaces touchflo for me (mostly because of leaving more ram)
I currently have a WM 6.5 version that has the start button and other small icons on the bottom - is that the 6.5.x versions? It seems nice, but definately not a must.
Please, do you have any input? I don't mind doing some work, but i'll probably mess it up if it's too complicated

Revolution
Ok i think i settled for Revolution Titanium
I still need to have T9 with danish working and i'm still a bit confused about changing radio, misc fixes/tweaks etc. It's a jungle!

Hojou said:
Ok i think i settled for Revolution Titanium
I still need to have T9 with danish working and i'm still a bit confused about changing radio, misc fixes/tweaks etc. It's a jungle!
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LOL, that's how I felt when I got starting but the trick is...don't do anything until you have read for days.
You are past a decent hump at your stage but you still have ways to go. Reading all the stickies is step 1.
Flashing a Radio: Same as flashing a ROM. Just put the both files in the same folder and start the process by going to the RUU_exe. file.
There is also an internal method but I don't want to overwhelm you at this point.

band27 said:
LOL, that's how I felt when I got starting but the trick is...don't do anything until you have read for days.
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that´s my problem!! when start read, posts over posts i stay confused! dont even know if i need to upgrade\change my radio version and hard spl to change 6.1 to 6.5... and in the majority of chefs dont find that info!! tired of being noob need more time 2 read...grrrrr
edit: with this radio: 1.00.25.05 and hard spl: SPL-1.40.OliNex i will have problems or should upgrade? thanks and sory my bad english

it_hisses said:
that´s my problem!! when start read, posts over posts i stay confused! dont even know if i need to upgrade\change my radio version and hard spl to change 6.1 to 6.5... and in the majority of chefs dont find that info!! tired of being noob need more time 2 read...grrrrr
edit: with this radio: 1.00.25.05 and hard spl: SPL-1.40.OliNex i will have problems or should upgrade? thanks and sory my bad english
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With the Radios, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, try them all out for a day or week at a time to see which gives you the best battery consumption to performance ratio.
As for the HARD SPL, definitely upgrade. Everyone should have Hard SPL 1.93 (located in my signature). The problem is that 1.40 is write protected and upgrading won't be easy. Try first on your own to see if a simple upgrade will work. If it doesn't work, jot down the error number and get back to me.
Enjoy..

Thanks for the input I can't seem to figure out if a ROM can contain a radio as well? It seems i have the v1.09.25.23 radio and i'm not sure if the titanium ROM installed that - or perhaps a previous ROM that was prepacked with an installer (ack, i know...) - or if it's default from the factory?
Anyways WiFi doesn't seem to work anymore, could that be because of the radio change or the titanium or perhaps my hardware suddenly faulting? I haven't been using wifi untill now for the last two ROM tryouts - i only need it now for connecting to the local (home)network...

Hojou said:
Thanks for the input I can't seem to figure out if a ROM can contain a radio as well? It seems i have the v1.09.25.23 radio and i'm not sure if the titanium ROM installed that - or perhaps a previous ROM that was prepacked with an installer (ack, i know...) - or if it's default from the factory?
Anyways WiFi doesn't seem to work anymore, could that be because of the radio change or the titanium or perhaps my hardware suddenly faulting? I haven't been using wifi untill now for the last two ROM tryouts - i only need it now for connecting to the local (home)network...
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When downloading a chefs rom, they most like give you the ROM only. Titanium is basically the default interface and is always included as it's part of microsofts interface but most chefs shut it off and use manila (either 2.1 or 2.5 versions).
It's possible that something is interferring with the wifi and it's possible that it could be hardware related but the only way to really find out is to flash another rom to rule out the Rom Variable or perhaps it's a app that you installed. Play around with it.

Ah yeah i ment revolution - i'm using the titanium version (not using manila) - i'll probably try and flash to the recommended radio (the one recommended in the revolution thread).
Thanks again for the feedback

How can i save my current rom / os

The reason because i ask is, that i want to try WM6.5, so i will go on.
Is it possible to save all data on my phone and to restore it, if i decide to want to switch back to my current state rom with all messages / programms and so on from WM6.1
Help, suggestions, "anything" is welcome, feel free to answer.

sprite data backup does full back ups. SK Tools also has backups. Microsoft Myphone backs up all data, but not ROM info.
I would suggest going a different route tho, because restoring your ROM from a backup could cause issues. Back up your files only (text, pictures, contacts, etc) with Microsoft MyPhone. When you relfash your new rom, just log into myphone and download the information back to your phone. Also, another way to speed up the flashing process is to use XDA UC, which can silently re-install new programs after you flash your ROM.

what IS your current rom? is it stock?
More info would be nice.
If it is a stock rom that is already here then it shouldn't be a problem to go back, but if not, you'll have to dump the rom...

akashastrega said:
what IS your current rom? is it stock?
More info would be nice.
If it is a stock rom that is already here then it shouldn't be a problem to go back, but if not, you'll have to dump the rom...
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#1 My current rom is the standard Windows Mobile 6.1 Rom from o2 (live in germany)
#2 What u mean by Stock?
#3 @ More Info, i can free download a newer Windows Mobile Version - 6.5 - i think its a "providerabused" version - Link: o2online.de/nw/support/downloads/software/xda/htctouchpro2/htc-touch-pro2.html *can't post functionally link :<*
#4 What u mean by "shouldn't be a problem to go back" i thought that when i install WM6.5 that i loose my WM6.1, could you please tell me more about to restore the WM6.1 if i don't like the WM6.5?
#5 "you'll have to dump the rom..." Could you explain more?
Sorry that im not so experienced on that term, im an it guy, but this is new to me.
Would it be better to use an HTC WM6.5 instead of an o2 version?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=646103

Anyone an idea?

maron1981 said:
#1 My current rom is the standard Windows Mobile 6.1 Rom from o2 (live in germany)
#2 What u mean by Stock?
#3 @ More Info, i can free download a newer Windows Mobile Version - 6.5 - i think its a "providerabused" version - Link: o2online.de/nw/support/downloads/software/xda/htctouchpro2/htc-touch-pro2.html *can't post functionally link :<*
#4 What u mean by "shouldn't be a problem to go back" i thought that when i install WM6.5 that i loose my WM6.1, could you please tell me more about to restore the WM6.1 if i don't like the WM6.5?
#5 "you'll have to dump the rom..." Could you explain more?
Sorry that im not so experienced on that term, im an it guy, but this is new to me.
Would it be better to use an HTC WM6.5 instead of an o2 version?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=646103
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When they are asking if it's a stock rom, that means have you flashed a new operating system on it (ie custom rom). Sounds like you haven't so you have the stock rom on there. When they say it shouldn't be a problem to go back, they mean you can always load the original rom that came with your phone, so give 6.5 a shot, and see how you like it. You can use microsoft myphone to backup your data. I use spb backup, but it's not free.
Personally, I would suggest you use a "cooked" rom by someone on here. As far as suggestions, just check out the rom section. Can't really say one is better than the other. Just back up your data, and flash away. Like I said, you can always load the original rom that came with your phone. Once you use a custom rom, you won't want to go back to the stock one. Hope this helps.

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Like I said, you can always load the original rom that came with your phone.
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How can i do that?

maron1981 said:
How can i do that?
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The stock roms from all the versions of the TP2 are available here in the forums, along with all the cooked/aftermarket ones. You can flash back to an earlier version of a stock ROM (like the o2 6.1 ROM) just like flashing to a newer stock (or cooked) one. In fact, you can switch official ("signed by HTC") ROM's without having to use HardSPL first...you only need that when you start to use cooked ROMs.

Is there a generel Toolsetup that i need?
Or is it simply a EXE that will do all on my phone by it self?
Other thing, is it whise to use custom oder cooked roms? i always think about securty in that term, so i dont want to keylog my data to anyone or, getting psycho if im think that, there could be software like trojans or keyloggers included.

RTFM }:~D
XDA has wiki's and stickies for a reason. No offense, but you sound way to green to be doing anything without first doing a LOT of reading. Go to the Rhodium/Roms sub-forum and start reading ALL the wiki's and stickies. I'd suggest reading the ones in THIS sub-forum also. Once you have done this, and understand terminology as well as the device, then I'm sure it will be much easier to come back to this thread and understand what we are all suggesting to you. Good luck.