Windows Phone and Windows 7 Intergration - Windows Phone 7 General

Microsoft thus so far have been focused on integrating personal computing (windows live, Facebook, Office, Zune) into there mobile devices whilst placing little focus on integrating WP7 or WM into there operating system. I assume Windows 8 will cater more to WP integration then windows 7 does but in a world fierce competition Microsoft should be looking to differentiate from the competition, adding value to the windows phone experience.
When i talk about integration with the windows operating system i am thinking along the lines of a windows VNC type application allowing control of numerous windows 7 functions from a WP7 device natively. Another idea is receiving text messages, calls and notifications on a Windows 7 device when connected to the same LAN with the appropriate software and being able to respond to these messages. Another obvious example is being able to control zune from your WP7 device allowing you to control volume and change songs. Control windows media center recording show is another example.
anyway i apologise for my rant its late and i was just thinking to my self, if you guys have any thoughts i would love to hear them.

Yes
Microsoft have already advertised for a developer(s) to do this for WP8 and (we assume) Windows 8. There was an article about it on pocketnow.com which you can probably find.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

To the OP, yes I think it's where it's all going as well. I would love to see this "ecosystem" in 5 years, see what it looks like.
I really hope in the very near future that DLNA is improved by leaps and bounds. That's the start right there. I've got the Play-To on my phone, but officially it's "tied to Windows 7", so it can't link up to my blu-ray player, or my... xbox 360. Which doesn't make sense. It's the same company, you think that'd be a main selling feature.

I would absolutely love to see text message alerts through my operating system. I have always wished that either Zune or iTunes did this, but unfortunately they don't. +1 for this.

Windows 7 is already in it's final phase and if they're going to do integration, they're going to want to do Deep integration which would take a lot of time and edits to underlying code. There's just no point, Windows 8 will be out soon and it makes much more sense to just launch it with that.
Otherwise we'll get Windows 7 integration now and Windows 8 Integration months into its lifespan.

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Predictions for Enterprise/Business side of Windows Phone 7 Series?

Obviously, I think the use of the word "Series" tells me that Microsoft isn't done with the many "options" they will offer with WP7S. I think a nice enterprise/business UI is on the way as well, if not coming a bit after the holiday 2010 release.
Any predictions? I'm looking forward to this update in the Series just because my life really doesn't revolve around what my friends ate for breakfast and what movie they just went to see.
Personally, I need to make sure that I have a professional messaging/mail layout, Office, file management, VNC capabilities, and the ability to customize the UI based on limitations necessary per business needs.
1. Office Communicator Mobile with PUSH capabilities
2. Remote Device Management
3. Remote Desktop
Well, I guess Microsoft already put a lot for Business users in there: multiple Mail-Push-Systems, Sharepoint Integration and so on.
One could perhaps integrate Status messages on corporate progress from time management systems to the people screeen (and i'm pretty sure this already integrates with MS Exchange).
It comes down to what information u need and u are able to have that on the Start Screen via Live Tiles. What will be interesting is how company's will be able to deploy their custom software to the devices - as Marketplace is not the way to deploy these.
All the Social Networking Systems are just a means of adding additional information - u don't need it, u don't use it. Guess there'll be a RDP Client in there (although i hope it's more usable now, than the version in WinMo 6.5).
Remote Management - well, do you really think MS would release a phone that supports all the features of MS Exchange Active Sync but omit the manageability (disable storage card, disable camera, wipe device are not that hard to implement).

Microsoft MIX10 Thread

MIX starts today. Can't wait until we find out new information about WP7! Here's a few sessions about it and what time they start (Las Vegas Time Zone).
Live Streaming Available at http://live.visitmix.com/
DOCUMENTS AND DOWNLOADS
Windows Phone 7 Series Development Tools
Supported Media Codecs
Windows Phone 7 Series UI Design and Interaction Guide
NEWS
Day 3
Engadget - Windows Phone 7 Series gaming, all up in the club (video!)
PocketNow - Windows Phone 7 Series Has Copy & Paste?
ArkTronic(Live Blog) - MIX10: Windows Phone 7 Series Architecture Deep Dive
Engadget - Windows Phone Marketplace can remotely revoke app licenses
Engadget - Windows Phone 7 Series preview, MIX10 edition
PocketNow - Strange: Windows Phone 7 Series Multitasking in Emulator
Engadget - Yes, Windows Phone 7 Series can make a phone call
Engadget - Windows Phone 7 Series will have themes... sort of
Engadget - Windows Phone 7 Series device from Samsung is just a hacked i8910 HD
PocketNow - MIX10: Microsoft Cuts Copy & Paste Feature From Windows Phone 7 Series
PocketNow - MIX10: No User-Replaceable Memory on Windows Phone 7
PocketNow - MIX10: Windows Phone 7 Series Apps Will Use New, Different DRM
PocketNow - MIX10: Two Ways to Purchase Apps, Games, Music, and Videos on Windows Phone 7 Series
PocketNow - Windows Phone 7 Series Will Not Have a File Manager Nor USB Mass Storage Mode
PocktNow - MIX10: The Many Ways to Synchronize Windows Phone 7 Series
Day 2
Engadget - Windows Phone 7 Series won't have copy and paste
PocketNow - MIX10: To the Market! There Will be a Transparent App Approval Process
PocketNow - MIX10: Sideloading Apps is Possible on Windows Phone 7 Series!
PocketNow - MIX10: Multitask Your Way to Success on Windows Phone 7--Sort Of.
PocketNow - Dell Listed As Partner for Windows Phone 7 Series
Day 1
Gizmodo - Windows Phone 7's Impossible App Mission
Engadget - Olé, Contoso: Windows Phone Marketplace will integrate carrier-branded stores
Engadget - Three Windows Phone 7 Series devices, all in a row
Engadget - Microsoft confirms accuracy of old, pre-'reboot' Windows Mobile 7 leaks
PocketNow - Talk Back: Windows Phone 7 Tight Hardware Control a Successful Business Strategy or Just a Commoditization of the Hardware Space
Engadget - Windows Phone 7 Series targeted at 38 year-old 'life maximizers'
PCMAG - Win Phone 7 Ditches Multitasking, Memory Cards
PocketNow - MIX: Microsoft: No Windows Phone 7 Upgrade for HTC HD2
Engadget - Windows Phone 7 Series will be WVGA only at launch, HVGA later
PocketNow - First Look: Internet Explorer on Windows Phone 7 Series
Gizmodo - Surprise: Windows Phone 7 Has Native DivX Support
Engadget - Samsung Windows Phone 7 Series handset makes the scene
Ganondolf - Official Hardware Spec Requirements Screen Shot
Engadget - Confirmed: Marketplace will be the only way to get apps on Windows Phone 7 Series
Pocketnow - MIX10: Marketplace Trial Function is Awesome
Engadget - Microsoft tells its Windows Phone 7 Series developer story
Engadget - Microsoft announces Windows Phone 7 Series dev partners: Sling, Pandora, Foursquare and more
Engadget - Windows Phone Marketplace for Windows Phone 7 Series unveiled
Engadget - Microsoft demos third-party apps for Windows Phone 7 Series: Silverlight, extensions, and true Xbox gaming (video!)
Engadget - Netflix announced for Windows Phone 7 Series
Engadget - Microsoft demos push notifications on Windows Phone 7 Series
Overview of the Windows Phone 7 Series Application Platform
Charlie Kindel in Mandalay Ballroom A on Monday at 2:00 PM
The new Windows Phone is coming! Get a high-level overview of the new application platform and a complete picture of the developer story. Learn about the developer tools, the application frameworks, the support for Silverlight, and the support for XNA.
Tags: Mobile, Silverlight, Windows Phone, XNA
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Windows Phone UI and Design Language
Chad Roberts, Michael Smuga, Albert Shum in Mandalay Ballroom A on Monday at 3:30 PM
Windows Phone constitutes a dramatic new user experience paradigm. This session will provide prescriptive guidance, tips, and techniques on how designers & developers can build beautiful, compelling user experiences that are consistent with the built-in Windows Phone 7 Series experiences.
Tags: Mobile, Windows Phone
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Unit Testing Silverlight and Windows Phone Applications
Jeff Wilcox in Lagoon B on Tuesday at 2:05 PM
Learn how to create and maintain Silverlight and Windows Phone Series applications using the Silverlight Unit Test Framework. See what tools are available to easily validate controls and application interfaces and gain a solid understanding of test principles to deliver great experiences for your clients and customers.
Tags: Silverlight, Windows Phone
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Building Windows Phone Applications with Silverlight, Part 1
Mike Harsh in Mandalay Ballroom A on Tuesday at 1:30 PM
Together with part 2, these sessions give an overview of the functionality for Silverlight applications that is unique to the Windows Phone application platform. Part 1 will cover new input paradigms including multi-touch, software keyboard, accelerometer and microphone, as well as the APIs to leverage phone applications like email, phone dialer, contact list and more.
Tags: Mobile, Silverlight, Windows Phone
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Building Windows Phone Applications with Silverlight, Part 2
Peter Torr in Mandalay Ballroom A on Tuesday at 3:00 PM
Together with part 1, these sessions give an overview of the functionality for Silverlight applications that is unique to the Windows Phone application platform. Part 2 will cover the new application model, updated control templates, themes, and services available to applications, including new Windows Phone web services.
Tags: Mobile, Silverlight, Windows Phone
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Development and Debugging Tools for Building XNA Games for Windows Phone
Cullen Waters in Lagoon B on Tuesday at 4:30 PM
This session covers tools available to the developer for building XNA games including debugging, emulation, and performance. Special emphasis is placed on best practices for managed code performance and .NET profiling tools you can use to optimize your games for windows phone.
Tags: Mobile, Windows Phone, XNA
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Silverlight Performance on Windows Phone
Seema Ramchandani in Mandalay Ballroom A on Tuesday at 4:30 PM
Learn how to optimize your Silverlight code for Windows Phone. This session will discuss common bottlenecks using the graphics and managed stacks, and will highlight how to optimize startup and reaction time.
Tags: Mobile, Silverlight, Windows Phone
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Windows Phone Application Platform Architecture
Istvan Cseri in Mandalay Ballroom A on Wednesday at 9:00 AM
Windows Phone 7 Series represents a significant change from the past. The entire stack, starting with the operating system, user experience, and the application platform have been engineered to build a new class of phone that users will just love. This session will go under the covers and describe how to think about applications and games from the perspective of user experience, security, packaging, cloud services and performance. Details on the new application model, device capabilities, location, sensors, and other platform capabilities will be covered.
Tags: Mobile, Windows Phone
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Distributing and Monetizing Windows Phone Applications and Games
John Bruno, Todd Biggs in Mandalay Ballroom A on Wednesday at 10:30 AM
Windows Phone Marketplace will revolutionize distribution of Windows Phone applications, games, and content, and is designed to solve the two largest problems of the Windows Phone consumer-focused developer community: distribution and monetization. This session will provide application developers with the insights, tools, and processes necessary to begin distributing and monetizing their applications on the Windows Phone platform.
Tags: Mobile, Windows Phone
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Building Windows Phone Games
Michael Klucher in Mandalay Ballroom A on Wednesday at 12:00 PM
With the release of Windows Phone, game developers will be able to create amazing content rapidly through the power of Silverlight and the XNA framework. This talk will outline the basic application model of Windows Phone, enumerate Windows Phone core device characteristics, and walk through highlights of Silverlight and XNA Frameworks on the phone.
Tags: Mobile, Silverlight, Windows Phone, XNA
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Building a High Performance 3D Game for Windows Phone
Shawn Hargreaves, Tomas Vykruta in Mandalay Ballroom A on Wednesday at 1:30 PM
This session will detail how to use XNA to develop 3D games for Windows Phone, with a special eye towards the special characteristics of Windows Phone application platform. Special attention will be placed on optimizing high-performance managed code games for the platform, to help you squeeze out every last drop of performance.
Tags: Mobile, Windows Phone, XNA
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There's the schedule for everything specifically about WP7. Please be on the look out for new information when it's released and post it in the thread so we can keep it all in one place!
Can't wait
I just bought some peanuts and snacks, a bottle of beer and soda (Fanta Pomegranate).
Ready to enjoy my evening, streaming MIX10 live.
If I am not mistaken:
11:00 AM Las Vegas = 18:00 UK = 19:00 Germany
They need to make a dedicated silverlight/xna section of the forum
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They need to make a dedicated silverlight/xna section of the forum
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I'm sure they will if game creation becomes big on WP7.
I'm here, and to say the least, the atmosphere is amazing. There is so much anticipation/alcohol/gambling (already lost $400) truly surreal feeling.
Kick off is in a few hours..I'm heading out to buy a camera before I go completely broke...lol
~style1~
Anyone else think that this thread should be stickied as most of the other ones are based on mere speculation? Would be great for those who come here seeking actual facts about WP7.
gogol said:
Can't wait
I just bought some peanuts and snacks, a bottle of beer and soda (Fanta Pomegranate).
Ready to enjoy my evening, streaming MIX10 live.
If I am not mistaken:
11:00 AM Las Vegas = 18:00 UK = 19:00 Germany
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Las Vegas: GMT -7.
what site are the streams(if any) going to be available ?
Damn you style1 I am so jealous ...
Buy good camera and make some photos, upload it here (on your first post in this thread of course)!
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I'm here, and to say the least, the atmosphere is amazing. There is so much anticipation/alcohol/gambling (already lost $400) truly surreal feeling.
Kick off is in a few hours..I'm heading out to buy a camera before I go completely broke...lol
~style1~
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what site are the streams(if any) going to be available ?
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http://live.visitmix.com/
If I am not mistaken, it would be here:
http://live.visitmix.com/
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what site are the streams(if any) going to be available ?
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If I am not mistaken, it would be here:
http://live.visitmix.com/
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Added the link to my first post.
thanks but i only see a shadow placing things on a table
what about hardware requirements
hoss_n2 said:
what about hardware requirements
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Maybe they will reveal that in the first session or perhaps Windows Phone Application Platform Architecture session?
talking to the guys from SPB, looks like they have somethings they may or may not show today. Those guys
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talking to the guys from SPB, looks like they have something things they may or may not show today. Those guys
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Great, hopefully they show whatever it is off!
the news and screenshots coming out of mx10 have really impressed me thus far. cant wait to see what else we learn about wp7s
WTF...
They are showing off Shazam...that is like eons old.
and the scroll list is still very laggy.
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WTF...
They are showing off Shazam...that is like eons old.
and the scroll list is still very laggy.
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Looked better in person, I want to note as well that their third party apps pause in the back ground and are not actually closing. Which could be considered multitasking. Mainly because they can be fully integrated into the the experience. IE, netflix was added to the zune experience even though its a 3rd party app. As such it paused in the background when not in use...but it can be hot swapped to

Why WP7 should have the upper hand over Android and Iphone.

So I just switched from my old but faithful Razr2 to a Samsung moment, and this is my first time owning an Andoid device.
The platform is definitely very entertaining with all of its apps... but in the end that's all it really has, APPS (same with the iphone).
The reality is that WP7 brings a whole new layer to the smartphone category, and that is Microsoft office. Why shouldn't I be able to do my work off the couch? All I can do with my Moment is have fun and maybe exchange some e-mails,but it does not have any business functionality which is what will make WP7 special. Once Microsoft is able to develop its APP store, it will have the best of both worlds, Business and Entertainment, which is somethinmg neither Apple or Google has at the moment.
I agree.
It must also be mentioned that MS platforms have always gotten done games right. This thing is already shaping up to give the PSP a run for it's money.
You're not using the right apps then. Or you're in a strange line of work.
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my personal view
Android has no business functionability ?
Give me a break ! I've been a windows mobile user over 10 years and all I got was breaking my nerves and endless waits for basic functionability !!! I can do miracles blazing fast with android and I am never going back to windows platform again. I guess u didn't 'play' with Android enough.
My office is always in my pocket and syncs with my Linux laptop and windows desktop over the air perfectly and on an instant. And guess what ? I never need to reboot my android phone! Neither I wait 5 secs for the phone panel to come up whenever I want to dial. I had so many windows mobile devices (first was Jornada 720 in 1997 and last was HTC touch pro). All were crawling and I could do far less from what I can do with my Android phone.
Sent from Phone btw (HTC desire)
blaiz123 said:
So I just switched from my old but faithful Razr2 to a Samsung moment, and this is my first time owning an Andoid device.
The platform is definitely very entertaining with all of its apps... but in the end that's all it really has, APPS (same with the iphone).
The reality is that WP7 brings a whole new layer to the smartphone category, and that is Microsoft office. Why shouldn't I be able to do my work off the couch? All I can do with my Moment is have fun and maybe exchange some e-mails,but it does not have any business functionality which is what will make WP7 special. Once Microsoft is able to develop its APP store, it will have the best of both worlds, Business and Entertainment, which is somethinmg neither Apple or Google has at the moment.
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Run Zune software on a corporate PC to sync your phone. I don't think so.
You're describing WM6.5, and hopefully WP8, but not WP7.
awechris said:
Android has no business functionability ?
Give me a break ! I've been a windows mobile user over 10 years and all I got was breaking my nerves and endless waits for basic functionability !!! I can do miracles blazing fast with android and I am never going back to windows platform again. I guess u didn't 'play' with Android enough.
My office is always in my pocket and syncs with my Linux laptop and windows desktop over the air perfectly and on an instant. And guess what ? I never need to reboot my android phone! Neither I wait 5 secs for the phone panel to come up whenever I want to dial. I had so many windows mobile devices (first was Jornada 720 in 1997 and last was HTC touch pro). All were crawling and I could do far less from what I can do with my Android phone.
Sent from Phone btw (HTC desire)
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i dont want to bash windows i really dont because i used them for awhile; however, windows 6.5 and previous version didnt work well. i restarted countless times with my TP2. it became such a hassle that after awhile i try to use the lightest custom roms just to do texting and calls and still i freeze and restart. seeing that things may be different with WP7 but i spent enough money on something for many years that didnt do a great job on there OS, shot, i think the Symbian OS did a better job. there are other OS sellers that are bringing great innovation, customibility, and stability, these are the things that i believe average users want; consequently, im going back to android (G2 when it comes) because it gave me these 3 things and more. just my opinion but WP7 may not be all what its cracked out to be.
Idocuments to go, and open office do the exact same thing as office mobile.
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Run Zune software on a corporate PC to sync your phone. I don't think so.
You're describing WM6.5, and hopefully WP8, but not WP7.
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Well a lot of companies have allowed iTunes so that people can use iPhones so they will work out a way to use the Zune software.
Why would you need the Zune software? You can use exchange to sync and then sharepoint to share documents.
^16gb of data, yeah right.
vetvito said:
^16gb of data, yeah right.
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Well, you don't have to store music and videos on your corporate PC.
What about my 4gb powerpoint file?
vetvito said:
What about my 4gb powerpoint file?
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I work with Powerpoint all the time, never seen a beast like that. I'd say you are doing something wrong.
That I'm limited to email and Sharepoint to get files on my phone though is a bummer.
Right now, you wouldn't really need the Zune client on your work PC as the only syncing that Zune does is media. If you do somehow have a 4GB ppt file (I dunno if WP7 would even support opening it) you'd be best off hopping on WiFi and grabbing it from sharepoint or something. I would really question any scenario where a 4GB ppt file would exist and even then, why you would need it on your phone.
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I work with Powerpoint all the time, never seen a beast like that. I'd say you are doing something wrong.
That I'm limited to email and Sharepoint to get files on my phone though is a bummer.
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Really hoping they have Office Web Apps/SkyDrive.
Doing something wrong? Embedding and linking files is wrong?
I and a lot of other people actually use all the features of Powerpoint. Including but not limited to adding our own videos, adding an entire website, music files, intro's, etc,etc...all laid out perfectly on slides that make a point.
WM open these files with ease, a lot files just didn't play in the pp on the mobile version though.
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Really hoping they have Office Web Apps/SkyDrive.
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That would be great but that scenario isn't supported. There is a workaround though - you can download files from web in IE as far as I know, and thus can have a web server set up on your PC that will let you transfer files directly, or upload them to Skydrive and then download "manually" from there. But that would be a pain for 4GB files anyway.
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Doing something wrong? Embedding and linking files is wrong?
I and a lot of other people actually use all the features of Powerpoint. Including but not limited to adding our own videos, adding an entire website, music files, intro's, etc,etc...all laid out perfectly on slides that make a point.
WM open these files with ease, a lot files just didn't play in the pp on the mobile version though.
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I don't like not having the USB storage functionality either. One of the things that irks me about the direction of wp7. Unlike multitasking and c&p, I don't think this one is coming unless there's alot of fuss about it (which I doubt is going to happen from the general consumer).
But it does seem very odd to have a 4gb presentation. You're supposed to be using the slides as a visual guide not some kind of data storage. Why would you embed the video into the presentation rather than just being a link? And why would you need to transfer some big video to the phone if you're just working on the ppt?
For remote control presentation. Plus I don't have to look at the presentation screen.
Click to play or play at entrance is much better than a simple link. It follows suit with the entire presentation. This is just my opinion though.
awechris said:
Android has no business functionability ?
Give me a break ! I've been a windows mobile user over 10 years and all I got was breaking my nerves and endless waits for basic functionability !!! I can do miracles blazing fast with android and I am never going back to windows platform again. I guess u didn't 'play' with Android enough.
My office is always in my pocket and syncs with my Linux laptop and windows desktop over the air perfectly and on an instant. And guess what ? I never need to reboot my android phone! Neither I wait 5 secs for the phone panel to come up whenever I want to dial. I had so many windows mobile devices (first was Jornada 720 in 1997 and last was HTC touch pro). All were crawling and I could do far less from what I can do with my Android phone.
Sent from Phone btw (HTC desire)
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i dont want to bash windows i really dont because i used them for awhile; however, windows 6.5 and previous version didnt work well. i restarted countless times with my TP2. it became such a hassle that after awhile i try to use the lightest custom roms just to do texting and calls and still i freeze and restart. seeing that things may be different with WP7 but i spent enough money on something for many years that didnt do a great job on there OS, shot, i think the Symbian OS did a better job. there are other OS sellers that are bringing great innovation, customibility, and stability, these are the things that i believe average users want; consequently, im going back to android (G2 when it comes) because it gave me these 3 things and more. just my opinion but WP7 may not be all what its cracked out to be.
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Using Windows 6.5 (and previous versions...) as evidence of how "terrible" WP7 is going to be is not really a logical way of thinking... Of course the new OS is going to have some similarities to the old versions but the smoothness with which the WP7 OS runs can't be compared to Windows mobile 6.5. Also, to awechris, I really don't see how syncing your cellphone to your Linux laptop makes it a "great" business phone. Do you know about some obscure android office package that I don't know about? Because to me a business phone in the modern world without access to some sort of Word, Powerpoint, and Excel application, is not a businessphone at all. I want to be able to write a report while sitting on the beach (with a physical keyboard), and that is something that WP7 will be able to offer me in the near future.
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Using Windows 6.5 (and previous versions...) as evidence of how "terrible" WP7 is going to be is not really a logical way of thinking... Of course the new OS is going to have some similarities to the old versions but the smoothness with which the WP7 OS runs can't be compared to Windows mobile 6.5. Also, to awechris, I really don't see how syncing your cellphone to your Linux laptop makes it a "great" business phone. Do you know about some obscure android office package that I don't know about? Because to me a business phone in the modern world without access to some sort of Word, Powerpoint, and Excel application, is not a businessphone at all. I want to be able to write a report while sitting on the beach (with a physical keyboard), and that is something that WP7 will be able to offer me in the near future.
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<sarcasm>You all have it wrong! I can just make calls from my Netbook via Google Voice and edit all the powerpoints the way they were meant to be edited! </sarcasm>

Mango or coconut, i want these...

Cool...
10things im waiting for
1.a good 10+ megapixel phone
2.a good 3+ megapixel front camera for 3g calls
3.facetime like service
4.unlocked marketplace for India
5.bluetooth/wifi/3g gaming
6.xbox controller
7.Nokia E90 like hardware and many other form-factors
8.high fps slow motion camera
9.wireless charging
10.Augmented Reality Games with wireless AR goggles
11.User Modes: "Admin" "guest" "user"[dont reply about security breaches. still its cool to have when Apple can snoop me on my gps]
Admin: Selecting few contacts and granting them admin previledges should allow them to control your mobile remotely and read/write gallery, contacts, sms, reset[everything]
Guest: if you select few contacts as "guest" they can be controlled by you...
you can set rules "do not disturb" from "9AM till 6PM" and "sat,sun" etc
Users: if your friend wants to borrow your phone for a week. dont panic. just create a user and insert his sim. he can use all the phone features except admin settings. all your data will be hidden
after return you can delete his user account or just switch over to yours.
The xbox thing is coming. You can control some kinect games with WP7. The rest sound good. Not sure about 11. Sounds a bit too complex for a mobile OS
12. Wi-Fi hotspot (built in, not carrrer addon)
13. direct file access (use part of storage to be able to use a WP7 device as a USB drive and access it on phone)
14. Remote Desktop app (RDC)
tomakali said:
Cool...
11.User Modes: "Admin" "guest" "user"[dont reply about security breaches. still its cool to have when Apple can snoop me on my gps]
Admin: Selecting few contacts and granting them admin previledges should allow them to control your mobile remotely and read/write gallery, contacts, sms, reset[everything]
Guest: if you select few contacts as "guest" they can be controlled by you...
you can set rules "do not disturb" from "9AM till 6PM" and "sat,sun" etc
Users: if your friend wants to borrow your phone for a week. dont panic. just create a user and insert his sim. he can use all the phone features except admin settings. all your data will be hidden
after return you can delete his user account or just switch over to yours.
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I wouldn't want my data in someone elses hands. better to fully backup the phone, wipe, let the friend use it, and restore later imho.
moving the phones restore image off to a computer is a good idea too.
15. More "open" OS for 3rd Party Apps (like install a ".cab" in WM6.5)
16. Custom Ringtone, no need to "developer unlocked and then install XAP..."
17. An Official Windows Phone Device Center, like Windows Mobile Device Center for WM6.5. Sync to Office, Outlook...
18. A "Task Manager" so we can shut some **** stuffs off to save battery. (which i found really usefull in WM6.5) . Also have a option to shut down the application completely while using it
19. Bing support in Asia ( better be, but i am not going to stay at my hometown for a longtime, i will stay here, where Bing does support, LOL)
20. Better build-in Facebook (Not Facebook Apps), notifications, images, video, view post... all from People Hub ( i found the Facebook Apps is kind of annoying if you don't have 3G and have to use EGPRS...)
21. Hopefully, Microsoft will let HTC build their custom Windows Phone 7 version, or modifield deep down inside the "Cores" of Windows Phone 7, so we can get something like a HTC Sense for WP7, or HTC Sense Metro-UI Style.
22. Support better Multi-Tasking
23. Upgrade Security Level for WP7 if possible ( i thought about this when i read the thread of somebody here lost his HD7 and found out that he could not find his phone or lock it Through Live because everything based on the Simcard Inside)
24. Better MMS Build-in system (sometime, i find it really hard to download the picture that my friend send to me through MMS)
25. Video Call ( i have seen the new HTC's Device that run WP7, has the 16MP Camera. It has the front camera, so hopefully we gonna get it)
26. Improve/Optimize Performance... I don't know why, maybe because of WP7, maybe because of the maker, but my WP7's Fruit Ninja is not as smooth as iPhone's or Android's Fruit Ninja.
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15. More "open" OS for 3rd Party Apps (like install a ".cab" in WM6.5)
16. Custom Ringtone, no need to "developer unlocked and then install XAP..."
17. An Official Windows Phone Device Center, like Windows Mobile Device Center for WM6.5. Sync to Office, Outlook...
18. A "Task Manager" so we can shut some **** stuffs off to save battery. (which i found really usefull in WM6.5) . Also have a option to shut down the application completely while using it
19. Bing support in Asia ( better be, but i am not going to stay at my hometown for a longtime, i will stay here, where Bing does support, LOL)
20. Better build-in Facebook (Not Facebook Apps), notifications, images, video, view post... all from People Hub ( i found the Facebook Apps is kind of annoying if you don't have 3G and have to use EGPRS...)
21. Hopefully, Microsoft will let HTC build their custom Windows Phone 7 version, or modifield deep down inside the "Cores" of Windows Phone 7, so we can get something like a HTC Sense for WP7, or HTC Sense Metro-UI Style.
22. Support better Multi-Tasking
23. Upgrade Security Level for WP7 if possible ( i thought about this when i read the thread of somebody here lost his HD7 and found out that he could not find his phone or lock it Through Live because everything based on the Simcard Inside)
24. Better MMS Build-in system (sometime, i find it really hard to download the picture that my friend send to me through MMS)
25. Video Call ( i have seen the new HTC's Device that run WP7, has the 16MP Camera. It has the front camera, so hopefully we gonna get it)
26. Improve/Optimize Performance... I don't know why, maybe because of WP7, maybe because of the maker, but my WP7's Fruit Ninja is not as smooth as iPhone's or Android's Fruit Ninja.
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almost all and more will be in with MANGO, you should watch JoeB's video interview for mix11.... there are so many cool featuers coming to WP7....
truffle1234 said:
almost all and more will be in with MANGO, you should watch JoeB's video interview for mix11.... there are so many cool featuers coming to WP7....
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And so what? From current WP7 politics it looks like WP7 is NOT a important product for microsoft, so why should the bother about few customers. They are always selling only promises, and people are buying them, not a real functionality in software.
elektryk said:
And so what? From current WP7 politics it looks like WP7 is NOT a important product for microsoft, so why should the bother about few customers. They are always selling only promises, and people are buying them, not a real functionality in software.
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Troll much?
Microsoft understand about the "Smartphone" Cake. People now are relying more and more on their smartphone. They don't have time to wait for the full battery of the laptop or they don't have the strength of the Olympic Athletic to carry it everyday and run around. ( except for Sony Vaio Bussiness Series, but compare to a smartphone, they are still damn more expensive)?
They know how to listen to their customer, biggest example i can tell is Windows 7 (PC OS). Now they are doing good with Windows Phone 7. Even Windows Phone 7 is a new OS, i still feel good with it. Because it deploy and provide everything i need in my daylife. There are few to some lacks of feature or bug, but you need to learn how to accept and live with it, since Windows Phone is new and mistake is not avoid-able.
Windows Phone are having a great chance in Smartphone Market, since iOS is boring and no change between version and version. Android is getting heavier and heavier... ( don't be mad, but i had changed my HD7 for my friend's Desire HD. Android is fun to play around with, but the only thing i found it usefull, not by Android itself, but because of the HTC Sense. After 2 days of using, i could not wait for my HD7 back).
NO matter what you say, i do believe in Microsoft in this Project, and i do belive that Windows Phone will not let iOS and Android walk that easy. The problem that Microsoft need to solve is their estimate time of product realeasing... they delayed No-Do and that made me felt like crap.
elektryk said:
And so what? From current WP7 politics it looks like WP7 is NOT a important product for microsoft, so why should the bother about few customers. They are always selling only promises, and people are buying them, not a real functionality in software.
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rubbish.... either u dont read news or just plain ignorrent... if WP7 is not an important product for MS why the hell they pay few billion to NOKIA to use WP7 on their hardware...
just wait and see what WP7 will do to the mobile industry....
to you functionality is scrwing up the mobile phone jsut like WM 6.5 and android did..... if you can tell me that WP7 do not work out of the box then i will believe you... dont tell me it cant work as wifi acces point, not a USB disk drive, or no bluetooth file transfer (those are all bull****....), i bought the phone sync my outlook contacts to windows live account and wala....
till today it did not hanged, freezed, and with the nodo update it even got better... mango will make it even better....
i am not here to say iOS or android is crap, but if u test iOS, Android and WP7 side by side.... as there are few videos of apple for apple test iOS v WP7.... iOS was 10 sec slower then WP7..... so just imeging what it will do to ANDROID...
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NO matter what you say, i do believe in Microsoft in this Project, and i do belive that Windows Phone will not let iOS and Android walk that easy. The problem that Microsoft need to solve is their estimate time of product realeasing... they delayed No-Do and that made me felt like crap.
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I agree with you on all you said, I tried the Samsung galaxy s and it’s not as smooth as my HD7...
and for the first time MS have come out and said sorry for the delay in the NODO update release, JonB have apologized so many time to the users...
MIX11 interview video... can’t wait for the mango...
I am just waiting for NOKIA to start shipping the WP7 devices so I can have real good phone, and I believe HTC will have to do better than HD7 when nokia start to ship WP7..
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Cool...
10things im waiting for
1.a good 10+ megapixel phone
2.a good 3+ megapixel front camera for 3g calls
3.facetime like service
4.unlocked marketplace for India
5.bluetooth/wifi/3g gaming
6.xbox controller
7.Nokia E90 like hardware and many other form-factors
8.high fps slow motion camera
9.wireless charging
10.Augmented Reality Games with wireless AR goggles
11.User Modes: "Admin" "guest" "user"[dont reply about security breaches. still its cool to have when Apple can snoop me on my gps]
Admin: Selecting few contacts and granting them admin previledges should allow them to control your mobile remotely and read/write gallery, contacts, sms, reset[everything]
Guest: if you select few contacts as "guest" they can be controlled by you...
you can set rules "do not disturb" from "9AM till 6PM" and "sat,sun" etc
Users: if your friend wants to borrow your phone for a week. dont panic. just create a user and insert his sim. he can use all the phone features except admin settings. all your data will be hidden
after return you can delete his user account or just switch over to yours.
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9.wireless charging
Yes and then you want world peace
Have you ever use a WP7 device ??? Real use not just 1 day playing ...
As a phone not as a psp console???
M8 Those devices do things rigth for the 80% of the users out there ..
Its only 8 months old OS...Did you forget iOS or Android how where in the first 8 months ????
It will be better (away better) with mango and way better than any os was in the 1 year.
So be cool and wait ...for the world peace
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Its only 8 months old OS...Did you forget iOS or Android how where in the first 8 months ????
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Do you mean MS has started WP7 8 months ago, or it is 8 months on market? I can understand that this system is 8 months on market, so there is no good "navigation" software with offline maps, but microsoft has much more time to prepare its product. WM6.5 has been developed from original windows CE which was started aprox. 1997, so it tooks more then 10 years of "evolution" to get this OS functional and nice looking. Now WP7 is similar to Windows CE 2.0, it has "small version" of Word, Excel some applications made by hobbiest, and GUI which is so "creative" like Windows CE was in 1997. Only difference is faster and bigger hardware.
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to you functionality is scrwing up the mobile phone jsut like WM 6.5 and android did..... if you can tell me that WP7 do not work out of the box then i will believe you... dont tell me it cant work as wifi acces point, not a USB disk drive, or no bluetooth file transfer (those are all bull****....)
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And if you compare WP7 phone to non-smartphone from 2005 it is fantastic. But today is 2011 and if you want to sell product you must compare it to competitors. WP7 was designed to be new trend in technology and showing future of this market and beeing revolutionary. Currently some non-smartphone phone has better functionality.
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Microsoft understand about the "Smartphone" Cake. People now are relying more and more on their smartphone. [...]
They know how to listen to their customer, biggest example i can tell is Windows 7 (PC OS). Now they are doing good with Windows Phone 7.
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I think this example should be understood different way. Microsoft has developed Windows 95 from a scratch, people were disapointed because there were problems with compatibility, but got used to this OS. Then were windows XP which brought more new technology, there were many problems but people accepted this OS. Then was few years without new OS and had appeared Windows Vista. It was criticized for many problems, and avoided in many areas. Now we have nice, quite stable Windows 7 which based on Vista. IMHO WP7 is still in "Vista" stage, maybe Mango will fix this, but I believe 2-3 updates which will bring so many changes as Mango will make this system like windows 7.
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NO matter what you say, i do believe in Microsoft in this Project, and i do belive that Windows Phone will not let iOS and Android walk that easy. The problem that Microsoft need to solve is their estimate time of product realeasing... they delayed No-Do and that made me felt like crap.
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Sure if microsoft were founded 3 years ago, this mistakes can be forgiven. Nodo is a small part of functionality that was promissed.
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rubbish.... either u dont read news or just plain ignorrent... if WP7 is not an important product for MS why the hell they pay few billion to NOKIA to use WP7 on their hardware...
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Nokia is a different story, this company had lost so many chances. They had good quality phones, own OS (Symbian), they wanted to develop QT and now they are on the verge of bankruptcy. Why MS gave them money? I do not know, probably MS want to earn more money.

Concerns moving over to windows phone

Was going to try a windows phone 7 but then heard that 8 was coming out and it looks like the older 7 phones are not supported. Will windows phone 8 be dropped once 9 comes out. Also seeing as windows phone really relies on apps as its not customisable like android. When and are some of the top developers like zynga, buddies, EA etc going to work with windows phone.
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Was going to try a windows phone 7 but then heard that 8 was coming out and it looks like the older 7 phones are not supported.
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Now is definitely not the time to be buying Windows Phone 7 devices.
THUDUK said:
Will windows phone 8 be dropped once 9 comes out.
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There is no way anyone can give you and answer to that. There may not even be a Windows Phone 9. MSFT did a major overhaul of their operating systems. Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 share the same kernel. It was necessary to make a departure from Windows Phone 7 compatibility. I seriously doubt such a radical overhaul will happen again any time soon. MSFT probably reasoned that at this time their install base was small so they should make the break with the past now.
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Also seeing as windows phone really relies on apps as its not customisable like android.
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Every windows phone has facebook, twitter, and MSN messenger connectivity built in. No need for seperate apps. Windows Phone 8 will have Skype instead of MSN messenger. Windows Phone is great at being a phone. If you want to talk, text, email, review Office documents, and surf the web it's great. It does not however have as robust an apps stable as Andriod. Don't get me wrong it has a lot of apps but you will find for example your bank may have an Andriod app but a Windows Phone version may not even be in the works.
Thanks for the reply. Most helpful. Especially the Microsoft overhaul info. Will have to check out the apps.
I would also recommend to check out the website marketplace and check for your apps. I love Windows Phone and will not switch over to android or iOS soon, but I can see how WP is not for everyone, especially considering that some of the big developers are not trying hard enough on windows phone and either neglect it completely or bring their apps very late (Draw Something *nudge, nudge, wink, wink*)

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