I use RA for my recovery system, and even google failed me here.. what gets backed up using nand + ext vs just nand?, and when your doing regular nand backups, which is better to do?
I think the ext partition is where apps2sd apps reside on the SD card. It's a separate partition, so it wouldn't be normally included in a nandroid backup because it wouldn't normally be overwritten when flashing a new ROM or whatever.
I think.
Correct....the ext Partition on your sd card is where the apps2sd program backs up you apps. Doing a nandroid backup backs up everything apps, the rom itself, and user data....on to the main part of the sd card....
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Also you really just want too do a nand backup before you flash a new rom...just incase something goes wrong....a normal backup is fineevery other time
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Hey All,
I was hoping for some help.
I did a nandroid backup of my mikfroyo setup. I only selected the default settings when doing the backup, should I have selected anything else?
When I went to restore, I wiped cache, dalvik, and data reset, and then did the nandroid restore. When I rebooted I got to the first mikfroyo screen where but it never made it to the second where the letters light up one at a time, it just looped on the first screen with the "flame" type effect comes out, over and over.
I tried a battery two times pull but it did the same thing.
Any thoughts???
chefdrew said:
Hey All,
I was hoping for some help.
I did a nandroid backup of my mikfroyo setup. I only selected the default settings when doing the backup, should I have selected anything else?
When I went to restore, I wiped cache, dalvik, and data reset, and then did the nandroid restore. When I rebooted I got to the first mikfroyo screen where but it never made it to the second where the letters light up one at a time, it just looped on the first screen with the "flame" type effect comes out, over and over.
I tried a battery two times pull but it did the same thing.
Any thoughts???
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What recovery are you using? I'vei swear I've heard that with Amon Ra 2.3 deleting the android.secure folder from you'r sd card will alleviate that problem. I've never had an issue, but I'm almost positive I've read that somewhere around here. Also, maybe try wiping both dalvik cache and cache right after you restore your backup, but before you boot.
I am using AmonRA. I do have an .android_secure folder but there is never anything in it.
might not help much but, for next time you do something like that, everytime i do a nandroid with amon ra i select everything there is to backup, worked flawlessly every time, if you backed up your apps and data with TB or myback up you should try reflashing your rom again
Make sure you have at least 500 MB free on your SD card when you back up a rom
i don't provide soluution here just sharing my nandroid experience :
i once nandroid backup my warm z rom (sense 2.0)
ater it finish i got bootloop and made me use the nandroid backup i just create (lol)
boku_baka said:
i don't provide soluution here just sharing my nandroid experience :
i once nandroid backup my warm z rom (sense 2.0)
ater it finish i got bootloop and made me use the nandroid backup i j
Something like that happened to me before because I ran out of space on my SD card
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chefdrew said:
I am using AmonRA. I do have an .android_secure folder but there is never anything in it.
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Try deleting it. See if that makes any difference. I know I read that somewhere, I'm not losing it..haha.
intel i7 quad said:
Something like that happened to me before because I ran out of space on my SD card
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i didn't run out my sd card space though.
another nandroid story :
i did nandroid restore, and everything's fine, except i lost my keyboard (touch input).
no keyboard was shown when it's needed! other input method is available normally (swipe) .
but just no normal keyboard.
funny.
Thanks for the replies. I have about 18 G left on my SD card so it is not a space issue. Maybe I will delete and backup everything???
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chefdrew said:
Thanks for the replies. I have about 18 G left on my SD card so it is not a space issue. Maybe I will delete and backup everything???
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Don't rule out the possibility that the backup could be corrupted. I just found the post I was referring to, about deleting the android.secure folder. The recommendation was to wipe sd-ext and delete the android.secure folder from the sd card. If you really, really need to restore that backup, and don't want to start fresh, you got nothing to lose by trying that. I'm actually not sure if wiping sd-ext formats the entire card or not, so as a precaution, I'd back up the contents of your card. Although I'm sure it wouldn't delete the entire card, because then there'd be no nandroid backup left to restore!
emcp422 said:
might not help much but, for next time you do something like that, everytime i do a nandroid with amon ra i select everything there is to backup, worked flawlessly every time, if you backed up your apps and data with TB or myback up you should try reflashing your rom again
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So in the options, there is...
Boot
System
data
cache
recovery
wimax
sd-ext
.android_secure
So from what I have gathered from you all, I should...
1) delete the .android_secure folder.
2) Boot into recovery, select nandroid backup, select EVERYTHING there is to select, except for .android restore
When I might want to flash back from a different ROM back to my mikfroyo setup, I would
1) wipe cache, wipe dalvik, factory reset.
2) select nandroid restore
3)Reboot system
Do I need to do a Caulkins Format all before I do the restore?
chefdrew said:
So in the options, there is...
Boot
System
data
cache
recovery
wimax
sd-ext
.android_secure
So from what I have gathered from you all, I should...
1) delete the .android_secure folder.
2) Boot into recovery, select nandroid backup, select EVERYTHING there is to select, except for .android restore
When I might want to flash back from a different ROM back to my mikfroyo setup, I would
1) wipe cache, wipe dalvik, factory reset.
2) select nandroid restore
3)Reboot system
Do I need to do a Caulkins Format all before I do the restore?
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I have never backed up sd text or android_secure, and I have never had a problem restoring a nandroid. The android_secure is for the apps on your sd card, you can save those with titanium or mybackup.
And to answer your question about flashing/restoring to a different rom. Yes, wipe data/factory reset, dalvik/cache, and cache. You can use the format all before/after if you choose to just, just to be sure it all gets erased. Then do your restore
jayharper08 said:
I have never backed up sd text or android_secure, and I have never had a problem restoring a nandroid. The android_secure is for the apps on your sd card, you can save those with titanium or mybackup.
And to answer your question about flashing/restoring to a different rom. Yes, wipe data/factory reset, dalvik/cache, and cache. You can use the format all before/after if you choose to just, just to be sure it all gets erased. Then do your restore
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Do you still have your .android_secure folder on your sd card?
I was told to delete it from the card.
Do you select "recovery", as well, when you ar doing a backup?
chefdrew said:
Do you still have your .android_secure folder on your sd card?
I was told to delete it from the card.
Do you select "recovery", as well, when you ar doing a backup?
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Yes. It will automatically create a new android_secure folder when you begin downloading apps And yes I choose recovery. And listen to K2Buckley also. Guy is genius.
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Yes. It will automatically create a new android_secure folder when you begin downloading apps And yes I choose recovery. And listen to K2Buckley also. Guy is genius.
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Yea, a new one will be created, and yea, k2buckley is the man.
Sounds good to me, I will give it another shot. Also, in ASTRO mrg, I do not see a folder for sd ext, should it be there? I did the sd partition before I actually flashed anything, was that supposed to create the sd ext?
chefdrew said:
Sounds good to me, I will give it another shot. Also, in ASTRO mrg, I do not see a folder for sd ext, should it be there? I did the sd partition before I actually flashed anything, was that supposed to create the sd ext?
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Nah. Sd ext won't be there. Never has been for me anyway.
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Ok, tried to delete it in astro and it says error deleting files, even though there are no files in it...
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Astro doesn't have permission to delete that folder.
Hi, have made a backup of my current stock ROM and am thinking of trying the Slim Bean 4.3 ROM.
As we know I'll need to do a system wipe before flashing a 4.3 ROM which changes the file structure of the phone and the folder locations.
If I didn't get on with Slimbean would restoring my nandroid backup of stock restore everything as it was including where the folders original were??
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Take a separate backup of EFS just to be on the safe side. In fact take more than one, you don't want to lose your IMEI
Bulbous said:
Take a separate backup of EFS just to be on the safe side. In fact take more than one, you don't want to lose your IMEI
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Yeah, already got a few EFS backups after reading some of the horror stories on this forum
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After system wipe your internal sd card will be formated. So take internalsd and extsd cards backup separate. Nandroid backup will only create backup of you rom and application data. But not internal sd card.
And one thing Nandroid backup also takes efs backup, don't worry about it.
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MBariya said:
After system wipe your internal sd card will be formated. So take internalsd and extsd cards backup separate. Nandroid backup will only create backup of you rom and application data. But not internal sd card.
And one thing Nandroid backup also takes efs backup, don't worry about it.
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Wiping system doesn't affect /sdcard folder and this is normal. We can't confuse system with user partitions.
Hey guys I have been trying back up my data so can flash a new ROM but titanium backup will only back up to my phone not my SD card so when I wipe through cwm I'm going to lose my backups can anybody please help with this
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Go to preferences and change backup folder location. Click "detect"/search entire device and navigate to your sd card.
Not sure about cwm, but twrp won't format your internal sd storage unless you specifically target it. I always wipe data, system, and cache prior to flashing a new rom. I leave the sd partition alone unless I want to clear it for whatever reason.
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If I were to have LINK2SD and foldermount installed and having some apps running from both internal and external and a couple of symlinks going on.
Then I decide to backup up using TWRP and install a new rom on there. What happens to the apps and folders on the external? Do they stay there or get deleted? Are they then useful or useless?
Now if I were to go and restore the backup nandroid, do things go back into place? Would the thing get recovered to the SD card again?
How about if Titanium backup goes into the equation?
Sorry for any confusion but I'm really confused right now
krusion said:
If I were to have LINK2SD and foldermount installed and having some apps running from both internal and external and a couple of symlinks going on.
Then I decide to backup up using TWRP and install a new rom on there. What happens to the apps and folders on the external? Do they stay there or get deleted? Are they then useful or useless?
Now if I were to go and restore the backup nandroid, do things go back into place? Would the thing get recovered to the SD card again?
How about if Titanium backup goes into the equation?
Sorry for any confusion but I'm really confused right now
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Backup and restore do not touch your internal or external SDcard. So your files, apps, and folders remain untouched.
cam30era said:
Backup and restore do not touch your internal or external SDcard. So your files, apps, and folders remain untouched.
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yh I'm asking about the LINk2SD part. I couldn't find anything precise on google
krusion said:
yh I'm asking about the LINk2SD part. I couldn't find anything precise on google
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Don't know link2sd, but nandroid doesn't touch anything on sdcards. Might have to reestablish links, but probably not. Try it, won't harm anything.
krusion said:
If I were to have LINK2SD and foldermount installed and having some apps running from both internal and external and a couple of symlinks going on.
Then I decide to backup up using TWRP and install a new rom on there. What happens to the apps and folders on the external? Do they stay there or get deleted? Are they then useful or useless?
Now if I were to go and restore the backup nandroid, do things go back into place? Would the thing get recovered to the SD card again?
How about if Titanium backup goes into the equation?
Sorry for any confusion but I'm really confused right now
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So long as you don't delete any of the data on the external card, then you should be fine. I've been using it this way on my phone for nearly 2yrs.
But my phone is jellybean based so you need to test it out if you are on a kitkat based rom.
**edit to add.. Thought I better add that I don't use foldermount or titanium.
My SD card is partitioned to have an ext4 partition for link2sd and a swap partition and Ofc the main partition.
I've just realised that you don't mention a partition for link2sd. Are you aware that you have to have a partition on your card for link2sd?
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whoamigriffiths said:
So long as you don't delete any of the data on the external card, then you should be fine. I've been using it this way on my phone for nearly 2yrs.
But my phone is jellybean based so you need to test it out if you are on a kitkat based rom.
**edit to add.. Thought I better add that I don't use foldermount or titanium.
My SD card is partitioned to have an ext4 partition for link2sd and a swap partition and Ofc the main partition.
I've just realised that you don't mention a partition for link2sd. Are you aware that you have to have a partition on your card for link2sd?
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I am aware i have to partition it for LINK2SD but I've no idea what the swap partition is for. I'm guessing if link2sd works then foldermount should too.
So what if this: i move my apps using link2sd then back up the nandroid. Then use a different rom and copy everything on my sd as it is to my computer. Then after i'm done with the rom, i restore and copy the stuff back onto the SD. Should that work? Or would the link be broken?
Thanks in advance.
So long as the data is intact, then you should * be fine. The link would be broken but generally you can just recreate the link. I think at one point I was running 4 backed up roms (2 roms and 2 pared down versions for benching) I would switch back and forth daily as I was a tester for 2 devs.
The Swap partition is just for low memory devices. It actually has no bearing on the subject. Just me waffling sorry
As I said earlier, you should make a nandroid before you make any alterations and then add each app/process and back that up too. Then test each change.
All the best rich
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You wouldn't a way that lets you remove TWRP and use the stock recovery would you?
Also a method to unroot so i can send it back to the store for any fixing?
And lastly how do I install the stock rom if i used any other rom? (Besides restoring the nandroid back)
So basically how do i unroot, install stock recovery and reinstall stock rom? For the v500
Thanks in advance and sorry for the noob questions. Still getting the hang of this.
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krusion said:
If I were to have LINK2SD and foldermount installed and having some apps running from both internal and external and a couple of symlinks going on.
Then I decide to backup up using TWRP and install a new rom on there. What happens to the apps and folders on the external? Do they stay there or get deleted? Are they then useful or useless?
Now if I were to go and restore the backup nandroid, do things go back into place? Would the thing get recovered to the SD card again?
How about if Titanium backup goes into the equation?
Sorry for any confusion but I'm really confused right now
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have you found your answer? because I have the same question.
I link my app data and obb to the ext4 partion in my sd card using link2sd, also I backup my ROM using TWRP
So, if I restore will link2sd be able to link the app datas automatically?
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have you found your answer? because I have the same question.
I link my app data and obb to the ext4 partion in my sd card using link2sd, also I backup my ROM using TWRP
So, if I restore will link2sd be able to link the app datas automatically?
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I was try 2 metode restore nandroid with use link2sd..first i try to reformat ext4 partition before restore nandroid and the results of all applications that are already on the link gone..second I try to directly restore applications without reformatting the results are not lost but their application after the reboot error and application error ended up missing. it looks like the system ext4/link broken..so I must to clean flashing rom from the start otherwise the system will error. So if u want to backup nandroid u must unlink or move back to internal first for safety and reformat ext4 partition before u link app again
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