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(Q) r800at (att xperia play) on tmobile edge bands?

I have a white xperia play an r800at, and I thought I'd get edge T-Mobile but my phone says emergency calls only

To confusing so I removed it.

Of course, 3g isn't going to work, but this is another Guy with the exact same phone getting tmobile edge. The phone worked on ass bands in Canada as well so my friend I don't know why you're getting reception but emergency calls only.
Please see T-Mobile asap

If anyone has any insight or a r800 at working on T-Mobile please share

So do you think it won't work cause of the 1700 band issue or because you tried flashing different radios to it? I would call up tmobile but I already gave the phone to my friend otherwise I would call them.
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The 1700 band is for 3g, edge should work without flashing anything, but give it a shot

That post you posted isn't from me, I was quoting someone else from the threads I linked you.
Ok this is all very confusing for anyone reading so to summarize, I have an r800at unlocked and I am not able to make calls on T-Mobile edge network however I am getting signal bars please help

Sorry about that I thought it was from you I fixed the post.
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I'm not sure on how to flash radios otherwise I would try it just don't want to brick it or anything like that.
dutchschultz said:
The 1700 band is for 3g, edge should work without flashing anything, but give it a shot
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[Q] T-Mo 4G on a unlocked ATT?

Is there anyway to get 4g on a sim unlocked phone?

TehTimeb0mb said:
Is there anyway to get 4g on a sim unlocked phone?
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You can unlock an at&t phone to use on TMo, my brother does it all the time. But you will only get Edge data speeds which are incredibly slow... slower then 3G. Voice will work and data will work albiet very slow data.... like do a load of laundry slow.. if you are just looking for calls then unlock away.

jgregoryj1 said:
You can unlock an at&t phone to use on TMo, my brother does it all the time. But you will only get Edge data speeds which are incredibly slow... slower then 3G. Voice will work and data will work albiet very slow data.... like do a load of laundry slow.. if you are just looking for calls then unlock away.
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You didnt understand what I ment.
Get 4g on a unlocked phone. There has to be someway to do it.

The title reads like your asking if an unlocked tmobile 4g phone will get 4g on att. Then no. Different radio frequencies. If I am mistaken the reword your question so I understand.
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Nope you got it. I'm surprised no one figured it out yet. Edge sucks.
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[Q] Are AT&T Xperia PLAY users happy with their device, firmware wise?

So curently I am on Verizon, been very unhappy with them since the get go and now after their forced shared data plan coming into effect this summer, I plan on telling them to shove it when my contract ends. Seen several unlocked Xperia PLAYs for AT&T on Ebay for around 170-190 with the box an all material. Seriously considering getting one so that when I leave VZ I can either get a plan from AT&T and use that phone, or maybe just do a pay as you go option (do pay as you go plans have a data plan?)
My question is are any R800a users happy with AT&T softare wise? I mean VZ has seriously been half assing it since the get go but I am not able to find if AT&T has ever updated this phone to 2.3.4. I am aware that with the AT&T version if you unlock the bootloader and root you many many more option ROM wise then the R800x I use. Just looking for some thoughts.
Oh, I know this is all up to where you live but how good is the 4G ( I know its not 4G but more like 3.5) speed wise? I had AT&T in CA for 5 years and my first 6 months in UT and I was gettng around 1-1.5mbps data speeds. VZ I am getting around 250kbps (blows, barely do GPS)

I only get 4g on the original 2.3.3 AT&T rom. And no they have not updated it yet.
It only comes with a few more apps than verizon, like AT&T contact book. Like id use that over google contact sync :roll:
Straight Talk is the way to go if you want unlimited data.
45$ a month for Talk Text and Data. (if you hear its not really unlimited this is true, but the limit is 7gb, so its not so bad)
I get around 3-4 megabits on the 4g I believe. If straight talk even gives me 4g, I get H+ on the original rom, H on other roms. Its way nicer with custom roms, anything with a GSM label can go onto it. (majority of them are)

Don't think we will see 2.3.4 from AT&T probably get ICS before that. The AT&T Xperia play also uses a custom ui where as the Verizon one is stock android if I recall correctly. Speed wise it's much better than the Verizon speeds you have been getting. Anywhere from 1mb to 4ish is what I usually get depending on my signal strength.
As you said you do have a lot more options with the r800at as far as roms and stuff once it's unlocked. The last update AT&T put out to uild .285 though you cat root it unless you were already rooted and updated ota runs really nice. To me seems much smoother than .270. Tough currently I am running. Dark forest rom with doom kernel.

I'm not sure if the r800at is like this but my r800a (rogers Canada version) allows me to flash European firmware with not problem what so ever.
Considering the r800at is gsm I think it should be able to do this as well. If not you could always get an r800a from Canada and unlock it.

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I'm not sure if the r800at is like this but my r800a (rogers Canada version) allows me to flash European firmware with not problem what so ever.
Considering the r800at is gsm I think it should be able to do this as well. If not you could always get an r800a from Canada and unlock it.
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R800at is that way too.
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r800AT lets you flash ANY GSM firmware. As I stated in my post. So you could use the r800a or r800i to have 2.3.4 on your r800at.
When you flash these firmwares though the settings->about will read out your phone as the model you flashed to, Like if you flash the r800i firmware, your phone's hardware will read as such, some people experience increased/decreased service signal this way.

Yea I use straight talk with a r800at and dont have any problems with phone. I want to know if I can do the Sony unlocked bootloader method?
Also straight talk data limit is not 7gb, its 2. After going over 2 they will call you and turn off your data. Go to howardforums.com to learn more about straight talk
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I flashed r800a 2.3.4 to mine and really love it. If you buy one already unlocked then like you said you can use any custom rom thats out there. I am currently using the T.E.A.M. stock rom and actually really like it (locked bootloader). Here in San Antonio I consistently get 3.5-4.0mbps down and 1.5 up so the data speed is great especially compared to my galaxy prevail on boost mobile. I know some people don't like it but I actually prefer the SE UI compared to vanilla gingerbread so all in all I'm pretty happy with it. The only thing I wasn't happy about was my first bill was $300 just because it was the first month and the second month together...the first one being "pro-rated".

I originally had the r800at. I was perfectly content with 2.3.3, but I saw so much more benefits with 2.3.4 so I copied my apn settings then flashed 2.3.4 and rooted. Then after a while, I tried the Xperia NXT Rom have stuck with it since. I'm happy with my phone, but when your contact is up, I would consider getting the Xperia S
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My Xperia ZL review

I was fortunate enough to get my hands on a final release Black Sony Xperia ZL from a very reliable source. This phone is expected to be released around the middle to end of March. This is the unlocked C6506 model of the ZL which comes with UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 LTE Band I, Band II, Band IV, Band V and Band XVII. For those of you who are not sure what that means this is a penta band phone that will work with Tmobile and AT&T HSPA + network as well as AT&T's LTE and Tmobile's soon to be released LTE network. I am currently using it on Tmobile but i have also tested it with AT&T.
This phone has the exact same specs as the Xperia Z minus the dust and waterproofing. However what you lose in extra protection gains you a very compact phone. It is actually smaller than the Galaxy S III as far as length and width are concerned, it is slightly thicker but not by much. The back casing is made of a poly plastic with a durable textured back that actually gives you a better grip over a 5" screen that was made to be used one handed.
The screen is bright and crisp and the viewing angles are great if your one of those people that look at your phone dead on (Why people want a phone that can be seen by the person sitting next to you is beyond me). I will take some pics comparing it with the Galaxy S III as well as the Xperia TX. But the screen is amazing and watching the walking dead on it has been a joy.
Battery life has been pretty decent. Im averaging about 13-14 hours of light to moderate use and 6-8 hours of heavy use witch include browsing the net, youtube, facebooking and watching movies. Mind you i have done all this without using stamina mode. i wanted to see what my results where without it so that i then have something to compare it against. i will report back.
The Ui is pretty slick it has some neat animations but its not heavily tweaked like sense 4.0 or cartoony like Touch Wiz. there is nothing about this phone that has lag or stutter in anyway. It is FAST, and ive attempted to bog it down opening and closing apps as well as switching between apps with not so much as a problem. Another nice touch which had me thrilled was that i was able to download all of my old Nvidia Tegra games that i purchased back when i was using the G2X (im really enjoying gaming on this phone GTA3 and Vice city play great as well as 9MM, Order and Chaos, The Dark Knight, Spiderman, Backstab, Max Payne, Dead Trigger, Dead Space, Vector and Angry Birds). Music sounds excellent provided you have decent headphones and the speaker on this thing is pretty loud.loud enough to allow me to have conversations on speaker while driving around town.
Things im not crazy about...Im not digging the fact that the background has switched from black to white in the stock messaging app as well as contacts but thats just personal taste. Also the lock screen requires you to do a full swipe up and down with this neat little window blind effect but its annoying at times because it really does require you to go from top to bottom and vice versa for it to unlock the screen. The camera takes great shots but i feel that the burst shot should really have its own button rather than me having to go looking for it in the menu or perhaps do like HTC has and register that fact that i haven't taken my finger off the shutter. Especially considering it that theres unused space in the left hand menu options that would make for a good place to put a burst shot button.The notification area has the easy access settings buttons vibration, blue-tooth, wi-fi, data connections and settings, but they are not customizable at all and that reallys drags away from their purpose in my opinion as it should be up to the user to set. the placement of the front facing camera while interesting does mean that if your a right handed user you may be holding it with your left hand or looking at the person your chating with sideways because your palm may get in the way.
None of this is deal breaking just my personal take. If any one has questions or request ill try to accommodate so ask away.

Thanks for the review! Looking forward to when this will be available on the Sony online store. Can't wait!

eBay listed in stock for sale about $700

randy_c said:
eBay listed in stock for sale about $700
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645 on Negri!

Many thanks for your review.
I cannot wait for the screen size comparions pictures and battery life reviews

hyelton said:
645 on Negri!
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Yeah the one Negri is the C6502 model which has the HSPA+ bands but the one i reviewed is the C6506 which has all the HSPA+ bands as well as the LTE bands. Just wanted to point that out.

defiantbeast -
Would you say the viewable screen real estate is about the same as the GS3, seeing the XL has onscreen navigation and the GS3 does not?

madgalaxy said:
defiantbeast -
Would you say the viewable screen real estate is about the same as the GS3, seeing the XL has onscreen navigation and the GS3 does not?
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Yes the screen size/real estate is almost identical to the Galaxy S III. I have pics that i would like to post but, forgive my ignorance, i haven't been able to figure out how to do so.

defiantbeast said:
Yeah the one Negri is the C6502 model which has the HSPA+ bands but the one i reviewed is the C6506 which has all the HSPA+ bands as well as the LTE bands. Just wanted to point that out.
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Yup, just checked Negri and he has the C6502 for $645.00. I'd wait for the C6506, since those LTE bands is a must. I'm gonna go ahead and guess, that the C6506 on Sony store will be sold for $549, since they have the Acro S on sale for $499.99. Would be awesome if they have it at that price. I personally, will be buying the white version, once it goes up on sale, at the Sony store.

akong702 said:
Yup, just checked Negri and he has the C6502 for $645.00. I'd wait for the C6506, since those LTE bands is a must. I'm gonna go ahead and guess, that the C6506 on Sony store will be sold for $549, since they have the Acro S on sale for $499.99. Would be awesome if they have it at that price. I personally, will be buying the white version, once it goes up on sale, at the Sony store.
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I wonder how long it will take on Sony site though?

hyelton said:
I wonder how long it will take on Sony site though?
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I'm hearing mid March, or end of March. But, after seeing this, might be mid March. http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666543654 shows the Estimated ship date: 03/15/2013 but, yesterday I saw that it was March 7th. Guess they changed it.

Hmmm Interesting. I want to order on Negrielectronics so bad! But I`d rather have white haha

The C6506 will have 3G Tmobile, AT&T and LTE right?

randy_c said:
The C6506 will have 3G Tmobile, AT&T and LTE right?
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huh?
The C6506 Should have AT&T and T-Mobile 3G and AT&T LTE, Not sure if it will work with T-Mobile LTE.
But the C6502 thats currently being sold will work on AT&T and T-Mobiles 3G

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The C6506 will have 3G Tmobile, AT&T and LTE right?
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C6506 wil work with HSPA+ and LTE on both networks.

akong702 said:
C6506 wil work with HSPA+ and LTE on both networks.
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Yes both HSPA+ and LTE on both At&t and Tmobile. That's why i believe that Sony will only release the ZL in Canada and the US. The Z will not support the full spectrum of bands like the ZL will. Its a bit disheartening as the Xperia Z is beautiful, but it will only play nice with HSPA+. I had a friend who almost cried over the Z but after he saw how compact the ZL is he seeing that its the better choice for him.

HSPA?
Running AT&T Straight Talk on a N4. The ZL C6502 has the 850/1900 frequencies to run 3G. Will this be the same HSPA 3G that I'm getting now?

defiantbeast said:
Yes both HSPA+ and LTE on both At&t and Tmobile. That's why i believe that Sony will only release the ZL in Canada and the US. The Z will not support the full spectrum of bands like the ZL will. Its a bit disheartening as the Xperia Z is beautiful, but it will only play nice with HSPA+. I had a friend who almost cried over the Z but after he saw how compact the ZL is he seeing that its the better choice for him.
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The Z wont play nice with hspa. As with att you wouldnt get 3g everywhere cause no 1900mhz
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hyelton said:
The Z wont play nice with hspa. As with att you wouldnt get 3g everywhere cause no 1900mhz
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your partially right the Z thats on negri will not play nice with HSPA because its missing the 1900 but there is a model according to the white papers of the Xperia Z the C6602 that will have full HSPA but not LTE.

It seems to me that the Xperia ZL C6502 has the right frequencies to run faux 4G on AT&T, or as I understand it HSPA. Am I right or wrong? I do know that it will not support LTE like the upcoming C6506 US model.
Thinking about placing an order. I really like how this phone is all display. Just hope development supports this phone.

[Q] Sony Xperia ZL 6506 locked from At&t? Is that possible

Dear all,
I just bought a Sony Xperia ZL 6506 white on ebay. It is new. I think it was a good deal since it was 455 shipping included. the guy states in the ad that the phone is brand new. I have T-mobile, and I am concerned of only one thing: the seller wrote "At&t" under the voice "carrier" and states: "PHONE WORKS WITH AT&T. NOT SURE IF IT IS UNLOCKED TO OTHER GSM NETWORKS." I googled and I think there is no such an Sony Xperia ZL 6506 locked to Att, or am I missing something? Should it work with my Tmobile sim card?Thanks
It is listed here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-Xperia...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

You'll be fine - the C6506 is unlocked for any GSM carrier. It is the reason I just purchased one yesterday as well: because it has the 1700mhz T-mobile AWS band (unlike the HTC One Developer Edition that I'm now selling).
It will not be locked to AT&T. Now, the T-mobile version of the Xperia Z is another story and it will be locked to T-mobile, but you'll be fine.
Enjoy your phone! Setting mine up now and I just love it so far.
-Collin-

Awesome I hope so. I bought it because it is pentaband. It has the H+ network also on the 900 Mhz frequenzy!! So I am gonna use it in Italy (im italian working in USA) as well if my studies were corrects. Do you agree? And you are gonna travel to Europe sometimes rite?

venexiano said:
Awesome I hope so. I bought it because it is pentaband. It has the H+ network also on the 900 Mhz frequenzy!! So I am gonna use it in Italy (im italian working in USA) as well if my studies were corrects. Do you agree? And you are gonna travel to Europe sometimes rite?
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I actually just came home from Italy on my honeymoon! I didn't have the phone at that time, but I did have the Nexus 4 and it worked beautifully. Too bad I dropped it on the cement after a few too many beers at the beer garden in Prague
Cheers,
-Collin-

Congrats for ur wedding! I bet u were in my hometown (Venezia, Venexiano means inhabitant of Venice in venetian dialect).
Anyway yeah I wanted to buy the Nexus 4, way cheaper...but I wanted to have the option to use a SD card...
May I ask you way you ditched the Nexus 4 for the Xperia ZL? Was Praga's cement too hard and it could not make it?
Cheers

venexiano said:
Congrats for ur wedding! I bet u were in my hometown (Venezia, Venexiano means inhabitant of Venice in venetian dialect).
Anyway yeah I wanted to buy the Nexus 4, way cheaper...but I wanted to have the option to use a SD card...
May I ask you way you ditched the Nexus 4 for the Xperia ZL? Was Praga's cement too hard and it could not make it?
Cheers
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Well, I was using the Nexus 4 on AT&T in the US at that time, and AT&T's 3G network is fairly slow here. It was time to get a phone with LTE, so I got the HTC One. Now, I switched to T-Mobile and they just turned on the LTE service in my area (San Jose, CA) and I needed the pentaband phone. I didn't want to buy a phone from T-Mobile because I prefer to buy unlocked versions and I really liked the Sony. It's so compact for a 5" screen.
Yes, we went to Venezia. It was so beautiful! One of our fondest memories was traveling out to Burano and Murano islands. True paradise.
Cheers,
-Collin-

Cool my mom was born and raise in Murano. I go often there with my boat.
Anyways...did u really notice a big difference between Tmobile H+ and Tmobile LTE?
thanks
A.

T-Mobile has LTE deployed in Chicago. I'm getting roughly the same speeds as HSPA+ most of the time. The only difference is the latency and some peak speeds. I've seen almost 30Mbps on LTE in some areas. Honestly, I turn my LTE off most of the time because I've been using up my bandwidth way too quickly.
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needmoregigs said:
T-Mobile has LTE deployed in Chicago. I'm getting roughly the same speeds as HSPA+ most of the time. The only difference is the latency and some peak speeds. I've seen almost 30Mbps on LTE in some areas. Honestly, I turn my LTE off most of the time because I've been using up my bandwidth way too quickly.
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I get about 10-12mbps on HSPA+ and usually 25-30mbps on LTE here in San Jose. 10-12 is just fine for me, but I just got one of the new unlimited plans so I see no real drawback. Uploads are WAY faster though, and that helps with my "auto-upload" feature I use when I snap photos I guess. You know, and pictures of my food being posted on Facebook and whatnot
-Collin-

venexiano said:
Dear all,
I just bought a Sony Xperia ZL 6506 white on ebay. It is new. I think it was a good deal since it was 455 shipping included. the guy states in the ad that the phone is brand new. I have T-mobile, and I am concerned of only one thing: the seller wrote "At&t" under the voice "carrier" and states: "PHONE WORKS WITH AT&T. NOT SURE IF IT IS UNLOCKED TO OTHER GSM NETWORKS." I googled and I think there is no such an Sony Xperia ZL 6506 locked to Att, or am I missing something? Should it work with my Tmobile sim card?Thanks
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I just SWITCHED to AT&T and get only HSPA/HSPA+. No LTE service at all. Is there something new subscribers need to do? I've only seen existing AT&T subscribers having success with the ZL.
Suggestions? Thanks

Solution to Xperia ZL and no LTE Service
pete4abw said:
I just SWITCHED to AT&T and get only HSPA/HSPA+. No LTE service at all. Is there something new subscribers need to do? I've only seen existing AT&T subscribers having success with the ZL.
Suggestions? Thanks
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I solved the issue.
First the problem: If you are a new customer bringing an unlocked phone (not AT&T branded), when you register your IMEI, the network will not recognize it as AT&T property and will deny you LTE service.
Solution: Finally, after a week, today I went to the local store, and they put the IMEI of a store phone in and voila, LTE right away. Obviously, this should not be the case, and those who get service right away must be existing AT&T customers with an AT&T phone in their account. This must change otherwise people won't want to switch! HTH