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My Desire seems to of started slowing down. It's a bit laggy in the home screen, menus are feeling a bit sluggish too.
It was lightening fast when I first had it, not sure if I've just gotten so used to it.
Any tips of speeding things up? I've removed any unused apps and wiped app cache.
The phone is also not rooted.
Any one else experiencing this a bit?
I somewhat expected the Desire to slow down after I got it... pretty much every device, computer, phone, etc I have owned slows down after it's been used a bit... I have not had a noticeable slowdown with the Desire though. There was a short time where the app manager took a while longer to load, but that didn't last long. My guess is that you have a lot of apps running in the background and maybe a live wallpaper. I have noticed as time goes on, the Desire's available ram shrinks away. After about a week and a half it usually drops to around 100 for me. A reset fixes this though, so it's not that big an issue. So, I would say get a task manager and see what all is running in the background and see if it is using your resources. I have also noticed that some of the Widgets like Friendstream are naturally a bit laggy, even when they shouldn't be.
Did a search, and didn't find anything regarding this, so I'll point this out. I've noticed whenever my Kaiser (KAIS100) goes to sleep, it doesn't actually sleep, I can still press every button and the phone will "wake", screen comes on.
When I check Spare Parts > Battery History, it shows my phone's been running for 5days even though it's been on for 10 minutes actual. If I continue to put the phone to sleep that time grows exponentially.
Is my KAIS really sleeping, or is there a bug somewhere?
I'm running l1q1d's latest .32 kernel, with Fat Free Froyo build with system/data on NAND.
Battery also only lasts about 8hrs in "standby", and not even 2hrs with full use. With WinMo, I get about 36hrs standby, and about 5hrs full use.
Krazy-Killa said:
I've noticed whenever my Kaiser (KAIS100) goes to sleep, it doesn't actually sleep, I can still press every button and the phone will "wake", screen comes on.
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Screen comes on, obiusly, but its locked right? that the way its ment to be... if you wanna check the hour or see if u got messages or missed calls... or it unlocks?
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When I check Spare Parts > Battery History, it shows my phone's been running for 5days even though it's been on for 10 minutes actual. If I continue to put the phone to sleep that time grows exponentially.
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I guess its not completley implemented yet, search this forum I remember I looked something about it, or post a comment to our good friend n2rjt in that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782269
Have you modified .nbh file with atools and entered the correct value on the advanced batt capacity? (units = battery real mAh * 1.6) if you havent or if you own an old battery you'll experience a lot of batt consumption or inaccurate readings....
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Screen comes on, obiusly, but its locked right? that the way its ment to be... if you wanna check the hour or see if u got messages or missed calls... or it unlocks?
I guess its not completley implemented yet, search this forum I remember I looked something about it, or post a comment to our good friend n2rjt in that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782269
Have you modified .nbh file with atools and entered the correct value on the advanced batt capacity? (units = battery real mAh * 1.6) if you havent or if you own an old battery you'll experience a lot of batt consumption or inaccurate readings....
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The phone locks like it's suppose too, but the problem I'm having is the CPU of the Kaiser isn't actually falling asleep. I'm getting the same battery consumption as when the screen is off compared to on, and sitting there (no activity on my part, just leaving the screen on for no reason )
Every so often the phone will be asleep, and the only way to bring it back on is by hitting the power button, but about 95% of the time I can press the call button, end button, OK button, IE button, hell even push down on the wheel on the other side of the Kaiser and the screen will come on showing the lock screen.
As far as the battery capacity, I have not done that, but the phone's been auto-learning my capacity, and it will get to the 2160 units, compared to the 2000 it's always set too, and sometimes reach 2377 units.
I have tried several Radio versions, down to 1.65.xx.xx version (which was the original version on my phone), and no changes, and tried different builds and no change either. DZOs kernel doesn't make a difference either, except screw up my battery meter completely. lol
uhm thats wierd.. i can only unlock through the power button, what i have experienced is that if its conected to an external power source it does reacts to any button I press.... but not on battery... maybe its a build issue... right now im using scoots CM rls 5a, dont remember if warbyte's donut behave like that...
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uhm thats wierd.. i can only unlock through the power button, what i have experienced is that if its conected to an external power source it does reacts to any button I press.... but not on battery... maybe its a build issue... right now im using scoots CM rls 5a, dont remember if warbyte's donut behave like that...
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Did some more testing, and found that without it plugged into power it does only respond to the power button, but again it's only about 15-20% of the time, and even those times seem iffy as it just seems like the phone's just slow to respond.
Phone is also somewhat warm as well even when "off", and I do have the phone overclocked to 450MHz, kernel is set to 425 (running a test on speed/stability atm)
At 425MHz it's still reasonably warm, and at 450 the temperature jumps alot.
Anyone else have an issue of the tap sounds when tapping on the screen sometimes not playing? Granted phone quality is great, and GPS is working well, though Camera is broken on my end, even though it was working before.
It sounds like there is a real issue. Some application is running continuously for you, preventing the CPU from going to sleep. I have had that before. Try removing widgets from the main screen. For me, the problem was an app that showed a flip-clock and the weather, and looked just like HTC Sense. I don't remember its name but it used to be popular.
The newest 2.6.32 kernel seems to sleep relatively well for me. Sometimes it wakes on any key, and sometimes it wakes up to a totally white screen. Other times it just plain refuses to wake up. Usually I can coax it back to sanity (from white screen or from sleep) by Fn-Left keyboard softkey, then Fn-Right keyboard softkey.
Your phone should get approx 10 or so hours of life from a charged battery. Less than you get with WinMo, but lots more than you seem to be seeing.
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It sounds like there is a real issue. Some application is running continuously for you, preventing the CPU from going to sleep. I have had that before. Try removing widgets from the main screen. For me, the problem was an app that showed a flip-clock and the weather, and looked just like HTC Sense. I don't remember its name but it used to be popular.
The newest 2.6.32 kernel seems to sleep relatively well for me. Sometimes it wakes on any key, and sometimes it wakes up to a totally white screen. Other times it just plain refuses to wake up. Usually I can coax it back to sanity (from white screen or from sleep) by Fn-Left keyboard softkey, then Fn-Right keyboard softkey.
Your phone should get approx 10 or so hours of life from a charged battery. Less than you get with WinMo, but lots more than you seem to be seeing.
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by chanse wasnt weather widget? had a really bad slowdown over scoots CM because of that widget, was constantly trying to update the weather....
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by chanse wasnt weather widget? had a really bad slowdown over scoots CM because of that widget, was constantly trying to update the weather....
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Yes that's the one. it needs to be removed, and can be replaced by Fancy Widget.
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n2rjt said:
It sounds like there is a real issue. Some application is running continuously for you, preventing the CPU from going to sleep. I have had that before. Try removing widgets from the main screen. For me, the problem was an app that showed a flip-clock and the weather, and looked just like HTC Sense. I don't remember its name but it used to be popular.
The newest 2.6.32 kernel seems to sleep relatively well for me. Sometimes it wakes on any key, and sometimes it wakes up to a totally white screen. Other times it just plain refuses to wake up. Usually I can coax it back to sanity (from white screen or from sleep) by Fn-Left keyboard softkey, then Fn-Right keyboard softkey.
Your phone should get approx 10 or so hours of life from a charged battery. Less than you get with WinMo, but lots more than you seem to be seeing.
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Ok, I'll give it a whirl, and remove some of the widgets I have running, and see if it does help out. Right now though I'm re-installing /system as I tried messing around with the density as 110 seems to work real well with where things are placed on the home screen (no widgets are overlapping each other), but Market won't work, and the Android Keyboard keeps crashing (on-screen).
But anyways, phone's booting back up, so I'll test out the battery life here again, as I got about 95% charge right now, so should serve as a good test for battery life, and CPU Sleepage.
Having a similar issue, seems to behave ok (screen lock comes on when I press power button) but power usage on standby is similar to original poster's. About 8 hours standby. Went to bed last night and it said 66% charged (1300mAH battery) and it didn't last the night. Takes a looooong time to charge to full though so I doubt it's lying about fully charging the battery, suggesting it's using it up at a fast rate.
How do I check background tasks?
Edit: This is with WiFi, GPS and Sync OFF by the way. On the other hand I live in a low signal area (typically 1-2 bars) could it be straining to get a better signal? Used to have an old nokia that used to run itself flat in no time when there was a low/missing signal!
Edit 2 : Figured it out, turns out the ebay app has a service and a process running - even with notifications turned off! Have killed these and see if anything improves
That could very well be part of the problem, although it shouldn't kill it from 66% with just the radio. How much capacity does it calibrate itself to?
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Having a similar issue, seems to behave ok (screen lock comes on when I press power button) but power usage on standby is similar to original poster's. About 8 hours standby. Went to bed last night and it said 66% charged (1300mAH battery) and it didn't last the night. Takes a looooong time to charge to full though so I doubt it's lying about fully charging the battery, suggesting it's using it up at a fast rate.
How do I check background tasks?
Edit: This is with WiFi, GPS and Sync OFF by the way. On the other hand I live in a low signal area (typically 1-2 bars) could it be straining to get a better signal? Used to have an old nokia that used to run itself flat in no time when there was a low/missing signal!
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Phone Radio really shouldn't use more power with low signal, in fact it really shouldn't affect power output at all (well except the fact that it's on). I have a 1350mAH battery, but it's reading at 2470 adjusted, so I re-flashed a new kernel with the new battery changes, now it's reading 2437units adjusted, which is over 1500mAH for the battery which is not what I own. But on the bright side, my battery capabilities are improving, and the battery meter is starting to read alittle more accurately.
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Phone Radio really shouldn't use more power with low signal, in fact it really shouldn't affect power output at all (well except the fact that it's on). I have a 1350mAH battery, but it's reading at 2470 adjusted, so I re-flashed a new kernel with the new battery changes, now it's reading 2437units adjusted, which is over 1500mAH for the battery which is not what I own. But on the bright side, my battery capabilities are improving, and the battery meter is starting to read alittle more accurately.
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yes, i boutght seidio 1600 mAh, and the kernel ended up adjusting it to 3260 units... (about 2000 mAh) maybe the 1.6 factor isnt right just as n2rjt said, maybe its closer to the 2.0
Seems like ebay may have been the culprit. Killed the ebay process and application in the background and only used about 10% over night (as opposed to over 60% the night before). I'll have to leave it overnight with ebay running again for a proper scientific test next
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Seems like ebay may have been the culprit. Killed the ebay process and application in the background and only used about 10% over night (as opposed to over 60% the night before). I'll have to leave it overnight with ebay running again for a proper scientific test next
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Yah, I'm starting to run into issues with certain apps keeping the phone awake and not letting it sleep. I kill some of the apps and it actually helps out the battery some.
I installed the original launcher from one of the other froyo builds, but came across with an FC with acore, so now back with ADW.Launcher or LauncherPro.
Krazy-Killa said:
Yah, I'm starting to run into issues with certain apps keeping the phone awake and not letting it sleep. I kill some of the apps and it actually helps out the battery some.
I installed the original launcher from one of the other froyo builds, but came across with an FC with acore, so now back with ADW.Launcher or LauncherPro.
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When you install a app, take a look at its requirements, like "PREVENT FROM SLEEP". You might have a app doing just that..
daedric said:
When you install a app, take a look at its requirements, like "PREVENT FROM SLEEP". You might have a app doing just that..
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Yep, most of the apps I download have that. But in sad news, I'm actually going back to WMO 6.5 as I can't seem to keep Android stable on my kaiser.. I've reinstall the same build twice (which I know is not corrupted, as it was working fine 2 days ago), and Market is always corrupted...... So, for now, until I have a secondary phone I can revert too, I'll be going back to WMO for the time being.
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Yep, most of the apps I download have that. But in sad news, I'm actually going back to WMO 6.5 as I can't seem to keep Android stable on my kaiser.. I've reinstall the same build twice (which I know is not corrupted, as it was working fine 2 days ago), and Market is always corrupted...... So, for now, until I have a secondary phone I can revert too, I'll be going back to WMO for the time being.
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Umh... sad...
We'll wait for you! Bye bye
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Umh... sad...
We'll wait for you! Bye bye
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LOL! Not like I'm leaving, I'll be popping on here every so often, and still doesn't mean I'll use Haret to load up Android to test out new builds that come out, and new kernels that are released in the future.
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LOL! Not like I'm leaving, I'll be popping on here every so often, and still doesn't mean I'll use Haret to load up Android to test out new builds that come out, and new kernels that are released in the future.
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Man... that's a sin! You can't do that! You'll be off from the Brotherhood!
Kiddin' ;D
I have found that my One X often kills apps I have running when I press the power button and put it away for more than a few minutes. I know Android will try to reclaim resources starting with background apps but this is killing the app I am currently looking at.
I have almost nothing else running and my system normally has 200-300 mb of available memory so it is a very unexpected behaviour. A typical example is I have something like firefox displaying a page. I read a bit then press off. I come back 10 minutes later and it needs to restart and reload the page. With previous phones the app would still be in the foreground the next time I turn it on and unless I navigate away it would stay that way.
I have a nexus s running ICS and that does not happen.
I have a desire running GB and is doesn't hapen.
I have a desire running Froyo and it does not happen.
Is there any way to force a less aggressive memory management on HOX?
There is an option for this, in settings > developer options, furthest down under apps section, first one; "Don't keep activities" check if it is enabled.
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.. also beneath it, there is a restriction "Background process limit", it may also cause immediate kills if "no background process" is set
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Thanks for the suggestions but those were set normally.
Tried using the built in browser instead of firefox and the problem was significantly reduced. It seems the system has a bias against non google apps. Even so - this HOX is behaving different in this respect to my other phones. It is my expectation as a user that if I am doing one thing, that thing should still be there the next time I look at my phone.
Something on the device may be leaking and the result is this need to stop stuff. My money is on sense ( mainly because of the observed ripple/flicker on the home screen ).
I've noticed same with my new one x it seems over eager killing all apps even sense launcher.
settings are correct but using chrome I don't dear open anything else for fear of it closing chrome and having to log back into everything, sometimes its as bad as just answering call or replying to a text message and its been killed
just as annoying it even kills launcher if I press home after using an app for more than a few minutes I get the please wait spinner while it has to load launcher
had ICS on desire HD and on zoom tab... this is not how it should work can't believe a phone with more memory and designed to run ICS is having to kill everything when DHD runs perfect
annoying little thing that is so far ruining what is otherwise an amazing phone
Seeing the same issue on my One S.
This happens with Dark Meadow. If the screen times out, or you hit the lock button, the game kind of "crashes". Not sure if this is the One X killing it or whether it's how the app is coded.
It's irritating anyway ><
Applications with a notification icon have not this behavior. Is there a possibility to set a higher priority to applications without root?
I'm having the same problem.
With cm9 @ Desire Z, I could, say, restore my 3000 sms within GoSMS (which takes a while) and meanwhile do whatever I wanted with the phone, eg. browsing, texting and so on.
With the H1X, after a certain time, the apps gets killed/suspended and therefore anything that happened within the app - which is pretty annoying. Any solution in sight?
H1X @ ARHD
I get this too. Annoying.
ViaraiX said:
I've noticed same with my new one x it seems over eager killing all apps even sense launcher.
settings are correct but using chrome I don't dear open anything else for fear of it closing chrome and having to log back into everything, sometimes its as bad as just answering call or replying to a text message and its been killed
just as annoying it even kills launcher if I press home after using an app for more than a few minutes I get the please wait spinner while it has to load launcher
had ICS on desire HD and on zoom tab... this is not how it should work can't believe a phone with more memory and designed to run ICS is having to kill everything when DHD runs perfect
annoying little thing that is so far ruining what is otherwise an amazing phone
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Sense launcher closing is not cos of the over-aggressive app killing. It's cos the system needs more RAM, so closes Sense since it's not directly in use right now. I do notice that some apps are getting closed after a period of inactivity, probably a default ICS setting that we can tweak when kernels and ROMs get more mature releases
I'm suffering from this defect as well. It's frankly astonishing that this phone behaves in this way. Really makes you wonder if anyone actually uses the phones before releasing such junk. What use is such fantastic hardware if it performs so badly in real use conditions. Every time I press home, loading. Try to run some javascript Web pages then go send a text, then back to browser and all tabs have to refresh. Mine is going back if it doesn't get fixed pretty quickly as it's practically unusable in this state. Battery is unsatisfactory as well. 2 hours on battery, screen on for an hour, 57% left?! What are they thinking seriously
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I'm suffering from this defect as well. It's frankly astonishing that this phone behaves in this way. Really makes you wonder if anyone actually uses the phones before releasing such junk. What use is such fantastic hardware if it performs so badly in real use conditions. Every time I press home, loading. Try to run some javascript Web pages then go send a text, then back to browser and all tabs have to refresh. Mine is going back if it doesn't get fixed pretty quickly as it's practically unusable in this state. Battery is unsatisfactory as well. 2 hours on battery, screen on for an hour, 57% left?! What are they thinking seriously
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If your battery is that bad you have a bad app running rampant or your battery is faulty.
For everyone else, even in settings if "Don't keep activities" is unchecked, try checking it and unchecking it. I read that sometimes it is still set to "Don't keep activities" even if it is unchecked and checking and unchecking it could solve the problem if this is the case. Doesn't hurt to try.
Hopefully one of the devs will make a Rom/kernel with better oom adjustments... I'm hoping.
the multitask implementation on this phone is terrible. I was using runkeeper, stopped to check something in my settings during the ride, phone closed the runkeeper application deleting my ride. It is getting annoying ...
In the interest of making things easy for those who are holding off on the KitKat OTA, I thought it might be a good idea to consolidate all of our experiences into one thread. This is intended to cover mainly the changes specific to this OTA over Razr M-flavored Jellybean.
I'll start with my experience/thoughts and edit in additional findings. (Note: I'm bootloader locked, and now unrooted.)
The Good
The UI is definitely smoother. It doesn't jitter or stall under heavy usage anywhere near as much as it did in Jellybean.
Battery life when the phone is asleep seems to have been improved a little.
USB audio out is now supported.
The occasional "screen jitter" that plagued the Jellybean build is gone.
KitKat's Quick Settings panel is quite handy.
The native lock screen now supports adding, removing, and rearranging widgets.
Although it can't be installed from the Play Store, the Google Experience Launcher can be sideloaded and works just fine.
The Neutral / Very Subjective
The AOSP keyboard has changed; the keys are smaller and, in landscape, very squashed. You may need to adjust to it (I'm trying, but it's a struggle) or find a replacement.
Battery life when the phone is actively in use has not been noticeably improved in my experience; but it hasn't been noticeably worsened, either.
There's now a shortcut to the camera from the lock screen, which can be used even if the phone is locked by a pattern/PIN/etc. (Great if you're a shutterbug; not so great if someone else decides to troll your Dropbox/Drive account.)
The Google Camera app works - but Photosphere can't be used, as the Razr M doesn't have a gyroscope.
The Bad
No more root, for those with locked BLs (me). (Saferoot fails, and many users are reporting losing root even when they try survival methods.)
Wi-Fi tethering via most apps (e.g., FoxFi) has been blocked, so now you must pay your carrier for the feature unless a new workaround is discovered.
All notifications I've seen so far now flash the notification light white, instead of unique colors. This may be frustrating for some who used the colors to decide whether to check the phone immediately or later. (Luckily, there are ways to address this.)
The Blur launcher is same 'ol, same 'ol. It uses a solid black background for the soft keys and notifications bar (rather than taking advantage of KitKat's transparency support), and it still has that Quick Settings menu on the left (which is redundant now). In addition, Holo Launcher (which I was using) doesn't account for the space used by the softkeys at all, making it difficult to use. (I've switched to Nova Launcher, which is working fine.)
I've experienced some weirdness with the application switcher. Sometimes it drops me to the launcher right after displaying the list, and sometimes apps will overwrite another's position on the list, or be dropped from the list entirely without reason (this is always temporary, however - just bring up the switcher again).
Some apps can no longer write to the SD card - or at least not wherever they please. We still have the Files browser, mercifully (but I favor Total Commander anyway, which seems to work perfectly).
The audio quick switch on the lock screen has been removed. Also, the buttons for entering a PIN are smaller.
(Leraeniesh) Under heavy usage, the Razr M may get hotter under KitKat than it did under Jellybean, and may drain the battery more.
(GPIX) Some users have noticed decreased network performance in some apps, such as Chrome or YouTube, while on Wi-Fi and with Wi-Fi power-saving enabled.
(GPIX) Several users have reported popping noises - when a sound begins to play, or in the middle of playback. (I haven't experienced it, however.)
Swype is no longer included. If you used it in Jellybean, you will need to purchase it on the Play Store after taking the OTA.
(ls3c6) Some have encountered problems with sharing the address book to paired devices over Bluetooth.
My opinion, overall:
It's a nice upgrade, but all of little problems I've encountered (bugs, Verizon blockades, the works) make this feel like a bit of a letdown after the 6-month wait. In the end, after just three days, I find myself wishing I could take the phone back to Jellybean.
Here's hoping for either some exploitable holes or maintenance updates.
My opinion
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So I popped my sim back into the XT907 for the weekend, and heres what I've noticed (when compared to 4.1.2).
Higher temps - previously, my XT907 hovered around 85F-100F, but with 4.4.2, I've noticed it drift toward 110F with 5+ minutes of active use.
Worse battery life - On 4.1.2 I averaged around 20% after 16 hours moderate use. With 4.4.2, I'm averaging around 5% in the same span.
Lesser LTE coverage - This may be something with my area, but I can usually get 2-3 bars of LTE in the Livingston County area on 4.1.2 (I've noticed the XT907 accel in this category). While on 4.4.2, I could not get any LTE coverage in the same area, and could only find it within more populated areas.
Slower performance - I'll always be amazed by how quick the XT907 was on 4.1.2, beating out devices with similar specs in the same price category. With 4.4.2, I've noticed frame drops, stutters, and random reboots be a common occurrence over the last few days of usage.
Overall, I'm satisfied with 4.4.2, but I still prefer the overall usability with 4.1.2.
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Worth noting that I am using an unlocked bootloader, with CWM and SuperSU (only really did this to remove VZW bloat and install Xposed)
Leraeniesh said:
So I popped my sim back into the XT907 for the weekend, and heres what I've noticed (when compared to 4.1.2).
Higher temps - previously, my XT907 hovered around 85F-100F, but with 4.4.2, I've noticed it drift toward 110F with 5+ minutes of active use.
Worse battery life - On 4.1.2 I averaged around 20% after 16 hours moderate use. With 4.4.2, I'm averaging around 5% in the same span.
Lesser LTE coverage - This may be something with my area, but I can usually get 2-3 bars of LTE in the Livingston County area on 4.1.2 (I've noticed the XT907 accel in this category). While on 4.4.2, I could not get any LTE coverage in the same area, and could only find it within more populated areas.
Slower performance - I'll always be amazed by how quick the XT907 was on 4.1.2, beating out devices with similar specs in the same price category. With 4.4.2, I've noticed frame drops, stutters, and random reboots be a common occurrence over the last few days of usage.
Overall, I'm satisfied with 4.4.2, but I still prefer the overall usability with 4.1.2.
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On 4.1.2 the "signal bars" were calculated by a xml in, I believe, SystemUI.apk. You could simply adjust the figures to show more or less bars, which Moto adjusted to show more. But having no LTE maybe a bad radio or a problem stemming from a bad flash. My Razr M doesn't get hot, no random reboots, and battery life seems to be the same. I haven't had any problems on KitKat.
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On 4.1.2 the "signal bars" were calculated by a xml in, I believe, SystemUI.apk. You could simply adjust the figures to show more or less bars, which Moto adjusted to so more. But having no LTE maybe a bad radio or a problem stemming from a bad flash. My Razr M doesn't get hot, no random reboots, and battery life seems to be the same. I haven't had any problems on KitKat.
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Gonna be doing some more testing in that regard. Even my M7 with its garbage radios gets LTE just about everywhere in the Metro Detroit area.
So far my experience with 4.4.2 has been positive. I agree with OP's list and would like to add these under the issue category.
ISSUE:
Decreased WiFi effectiveness/throughput - There is a noticeable decrease in performance on apps like Youtube and Chrome web browser.
Audio Popping noises - Some experience a popping noise when the sound driver starts up while others experience it during playback.
I have had the KitKat OTA now for 2 days and haven't found anything major wrong. The changes to the keyboard bugged me but I use swiftkey so that was moot. I also have an issue I haven't seen listed yet. The new sound for screen taps....it seems to give that "popping" feedback (that ive seen listed as an issue on driver start-up) ALL the time. I maybe get 1 clear sound out of every 5-6 screen taps. That is the only real "problem" I can find as of this point though. Does anyone have any insight on that?
Also activated Dev Mode and changed to ART runtime. Might be placebo but app response seems to be noticeably better! Not groundbreaking by any means but better than 4.1.2 for sure. Overall I am happy with the upgrade. Rather, will be happy once a root exploit comes up (I miss my debloating! On that note though, disabling apps never seemed to work right with 4.1.2....after hitting disable the app would show back up in active processes after a short time. Now I've gone 24 hours and 3 phone reboots and that damn NFL app is STILL disabled and NOT running as a background process. Might just have been an issue with my phone in particular before, but its fixed now!)
I am generally happy.
It fixed all the issues I had with Dhackers KitKat.
and feels about the same once you have rid of all the Bloat.
I like and I am happy that we still surprisingly got the update unlike the Galaxy S3
Happy =)
Just wanted to comment on the heat issue mentioned above:
I have only had KitKat for 2 days but I have definitely noticed a difference in heat after extended use compared to JB. One of the things I really liked about my Razr M was lack of heat so hopefully this is a fluke and I wont notice it too much in the future.
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With that said, no big issues.
I don't like the keyboard -seems smaller, or something, The heptic feedback seems to be different too (for the worse IMO).
The lockscreen number pad seems smaller - definitely liked the number pad from JB.
I had to change the messaging app (hated the all white/lack of contrast). Using "8sms" if anyone is curious.
I also changed launchers to use the google-now launcher so the "okay google" thing would work on the homescreen and also get the transparency notification bar. But, in doing that I did lose the circle widgets which I liked. Can't win for losing sometimes...
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On a positive note, Chrome/google searches seem to be much faster. The UI seems about the same (no complaints with JB).
If battery life can increase then I'll be satisfied with update (so far, no difference).
My experience has been very positive. My phone was bootloader locked and not rooted before (and, of course, after) the OTA. I cleared the cache partition from the recovery menu post-install but have not done a FDR. General impressions:
-- UI is overall much snappier/quicker. Extremely noticeable.
-- Love the new quick settings panel that you can get to after pulling down the notifications shade.
-- KK's changes to how the SDcard works have not been a big deal at all for me. The native "Files" app seems to have complete read/write access, as does ES File Explorer.
-- Like the new clock feature to automatically add a "home" display when traveling outside a pre-defined timezone.
-- Hate the new way you set the alarm on the clock. (Really, whoever came up with that input method should be transferred to a department where s/he can never affect design decisions again.)
-- I miss the audio silencer/mute on the lockscreen.
-- Battery life has been interesting. When I first installed the update (morning of 05/15), battery life was definitely worse, probably by about 50%. It has gradually been getting better, however, and now is probably only about 20%-25% worse than JB. Why it would change I have no idea, but it definitely is (I've been keeping notes, and am sure it is actually happening). I have noticed, using the Battery History details screen, that there are a LOT less wakelocks in KK than JB. In JB, I used to see tons of "Awake" indicators on that screen that did not pair with "Screen On" indicators. In KK, there are very few incidences of "Awake" that are not paired with "Screen On." Someone smarter than me will have to explain how that translates into worse battery life.
-- It may be my imagination, but it seems like the battery charges faster w/ KK. If it's not my imagination, I wonder if that means that the apparent decrease in battery life is really an issue of improper calibration/accuracy.
I have not experienced some of the things others have reported:
-- No random reboots.
-- No changes to WiFi or 4G signals. I don't use Bluetooth so can't comment on that.
-- No popping noise when using audio. (Note: I have seen some reports in other forums that a FDR fixes this issue for those who have it.)
I'm on locked BL, definitly non root, and I happen to installed MotoCam from a store n IT DID INSTALLED. .
Opens up, takes pictures beautifully. .
Only problems are the slide in menu is glitchy AND after taking HDR pic, cam UI is not there. Only live cam feed.
Other than these issues, it's playing nicely ESPECIALLY auto HDR does work, surprisingly!
How can I make those problems go away??
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So far my experience with 4.4.2 has been positive. I agree with OP's list and would like to add these under the issue category.
ISSUE:
Decreased WiFi effectiveness/throughput - There is a noticeable decrease in performance on apps like Youtube and Chrome web browser.
Audio Popping noises - Some experience a popping noise when the sound driver starts up while others experience it during playback.
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go into wifi settings...in the setting "uncheck" the box "wi-fi optimization" it made my WiFi significantly better..
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-- No popping noise when using audio. (Note: I have seen some reports in other forums that a FDR fixes this issue for those who have it.)
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Attempted a FDR on my phone, unfortunately it did not work for me. I will attempt to clear the cache partition to see if that may help the issue if
possible. So far i can only get the boot menu for a couple seconds and im lucky to get a selection in time.
EDIT: I cleared the cache partition, no effect. (NOTE: it seems to get into the recovery menu after selecting it at boot menu, you have to hold power & vol UP for a couple seconds)
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go into wifi settings...in the setting "uncheck" the box "wi-fi optimization" it made my WiFi significantly better..
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That is an excellent point. I'll shut off the optimization and will edit my results in after tinkering with it for a while.
EDIT2: Without doing speedtests etc. It is very noticable that the wifi has improved. Youtube & other apps load as fast as they did on 4.1.2
Haven't looked into it so this MIGHT be a feature of the Google Now Launcher I installed, but I JUST noticed if you swipe down from the clock area of the new lock screen, you can add widgets! Am I crazy or is this a new feature on our phones? If so, LOVE it! Helps mitigate the loss of the quicklinks from our old 4.1.2 lock screen.
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I'm on locked BL, definitly non root, and I happen to installed MotoCam from a store n IT DID INSTALLED. .
Opens up, takes pictures beautifully. .
Only problems are the slide in menu is glitchy AND after taking HDR pic, cam UI is not there. Only live cam feed.
Other than these issues, it's playing nicely ESPECIALLY auto HDR does work, surprisingly!
How can I make those problems go away??
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maybe you can uninstall updates to the cam in apps
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Haven't looked into it so this MIGHT be a feature of the Google Now Launcher I installed, but I JUST noticed if you swipe down from the clock area of the new lock screen, you can add widgets! Am I crazy or is this a new feature on our phones? If so, LOVE it! Helps mitigate the loss of the quicklinks from our old 4.1.2 lock screen.
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Lockscreen widgets were introduced in Android 4.2.2.
Just want to let people know that the Google Now Launcher is working great on 4.4.2 including the "ok Google" functionality.
You can't download it from the play store. I just grabbed the apk from this thread.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-and-gpe-devices-apk-mirrored-for-all-others/
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can't use "memory" feature under settings, while calculating settings app would crash
how can I go to hiddent menu? *#*#4636#*#* is failed until my M get kk updrade...
tieuvienson2005 said:
how can I go to hiddent menu? *#*#4636#*#* is failed until my M get kk updrade...
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There are many "phone info" apps in the Market. Or create the short cut with Activity Launcher.
Also the Cam sucks on my Wife's m so get the Lenovo from my Moto x signature link.
Hi All,
Anybody here with the same issue ?
Looks like a software issue/touch unresponsive issue because usually I find it coming back to normal once I press power button and unlock it again.
Sounds like RAM allocation issue, isn't ?
Thinking to sell it. Please suggest if you guys know a better way to deal with it !
Even if I go to SC, I cannot reproduce the issue at that particular time. They will just reset it and give me back, and that where I don't want to waste my time.
Does this looks fruitful to flash stock firmware again by the unbrick way ? I feel like that will be me last try.
You seem new here, so welcome on xda
One thing you should keep in mind is to be as precise as possible when presenting an issue, your description right now is not very clear, by the title it sounded like your phone actually froze, which could have been a ram or even a power management issue, but after reading your post it seems more likely that your display was wet, or that you were charging your phone, capacitive touchscreens are sensible to that.
Usually a frozen phone does not respond to the power button like yours did, and a ram issue seems very unlikely tbh
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You seem new here, so welcome on xda
One thing you should keep in mind is to be as precise as possible when presenting an issue, your description right now is not very clear, by the title it sounded like your phone actually froze, which could have been a ram or even a power management issue, but after reading your post it seems more likely that your display was wet, or that you were charging your phone, capacitive touchscreens are sensible to that.
Usually a frozen phone does not respond to the power button like yours did, and a ram issue seems very unlikely tbh
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My style of using I believe is the same and I had no such issues in my Cool 1 ever in an year. Was a lot better in every way. Picked it up because I loved the looks, but have lost my trust on Huawei. They really need a lot of improvement.
i am having the same issues as the OP (Although i don't know what he means by "going to the SC")
the phone just goes through moments of extreme lag for about 10-30 seconds, sometimes longer, and it makes the phone COMPLETELY unusable during those times. it happens at least once every other day or so, sometimes several times a day, and sometimes it only lasts about 10 seconds, although on a few occasions, it has lasted several minutes, the phone will "attempt" to respond to inputs, but it gets nowhere quick, opening apps i did not click on, closing apps that weren't open, black-screening, half-screening (app on half the screen), etc.. sometimes i have to just power cycle..
i have the exact same feeling as the OP in that i want to sell the phone. (although i type much better, i'll assume english is a second language for him/her)
i like EMUI a lot.. although i think i want a galaxy s8/s9 now.
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Tirken said:
i am having the same issues as the OP (Although i don't know what he means by "going to the SC")
the phone just goes through moments of extreme lag for about 10-30 seconds, sometimes longer, and it makes the phone COMPLETELY unusable during those times. it happens at least once every other day or so, sometimes several times a day, and sometimes it only lasts about 10 seconds, although on a few occasions, it has lasted several minutes, the phone will "attempt" to respond to inputs, but it gets nowhere quick, opening apps i did not click on, closing apps that weren't open, black-screening, half-screening (app on half the screen), etc.. sometimes i have to just power cycle..
i have the exact same feeling as the OP in that i want to sell the phone. (although i type much better, i'll assume english is a second language for him/her)
i like EMUI a lot.. although i think i want a galaxy s8/s9 now.
BND-L24 HONOR 7X B140 no root
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Since yours is the us variant, I'm assuming you've got 3 gb of ram instead of 4 gb, in which case a ram issue seems much more likely.
Not much of an issue actually, just that you probably had lots of apps open at the same time, leading to almost full ram (so the system starts closing background and even foreground apps if needed, leading to the strange behaviour you noticed).
Just remember to close apps you don't use and you'll be fine
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Just remember to close apps you don't use and you'll be fine
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It's 2018 and I think the OP and I know how smartphones work. I am coming from a phone with 2GB RAM and it has no such issues, no matter how many apps and/or games are open. Google explicitly states that closing background apps is unnecessary, and I should think EMUI offers an improvement over stock Android, not a detrimental experience. However, if you are correct and it is the RAM, it is not acceptable and needs to be fixed or I'm buying a new phone from a different company. In today's world, phones will open links to Chrome and from Chrome open reddit, xda app, pinterest, link to Facebook, share to Twitter, etc etc.. every time I click on a button I should not be having to back track to make sure I only have a certain amount of apps open. Nougat limits max open apps to 20 BTW, marshmallow it was 30.. But RAM management CPU management should be better. If it's of any interest, my reported "free" ram always stays at or above 1-1.5GB so I don't think its ram.. CPU or software problem, possibly.. But my Temps are good as well. Yes it's the 3GB version
Just a quick thought of something you could check (I also have the US 3GB version and was experiencing the same issue). Open up Settings > Battery, and other the "Other" section click "Consumption". See if there's any apps there that are keeping the phone awake and preventing it from sleeping. I would get constant lag after only a few hours of use, and it was intermittent just like you're experiencing. I was about to send the phone back, but checked this setting first. Turns out, the CNN app was running the CPU at nearly 100% for hours on end and preventing the phone from deep sleeping. Once I uninstalled that app, I haven't had issues since then. Could be something similar, just a thought. YMMV.
And by the way, it's NOT the ram. 3GB is plenty. You can see how much is being used on the app select screen, and I've never used more than 1.5 with a ton of apps in the background.
Let me help you there guys....i got the US variant too and has these freezing and lags all over the place, what i discover and did was:
1- Not all the apps works well with the phone hardware(they told me that somewhere) so try to test the apps you put on the phone.
2-Delete all the unnecessary apps from emui, that will give you less lag.
3-Check the battery consuming apps like the guy said and if you want turn on the close apps on screen lock.
Now after all of these my phone have been moving better but the problem isnt the ram, is the software so wait a little more so they can fix this cause is really a good value phone
It has to be the RAM management. Huawei must have optimized the software for 4GB, and then released a US 3GB version without changing anything, so it's screwed up even though phone is showing lots of free RAM.
Wao man thats the best explanation for this problem thanks man
It isn't and never was a RAM thing. Android's memory management essentially force closes apps (but shows them in recents) if it needs more memory. Note there is no work involved in that and you'd never know it until you switch apps and it has to reload, shows logo, etc. Amazing how non-solutions we're brought up multiple times and even thanked. Insert that's-not-how-any-of-this-works meme.
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It isn't and never was a RAM thing. Android's memory management essentially force closes apps (but shows them in recents) if it needs more memory. Note there is no work involved in that and you'd never know it until you switch apps and it has to reload, shows logo, etc. Amazing how non-solutions we're brought up multiple times and even thanked. Insert that's-not-how-any-of-this-works meme.
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Well, yeah, ram issues nowadays should not be present, but I do speak on a basis, I have experienced bad performance and foreground apps getting killed on a nexus 5, which has 2 gb of ram and stock android. I have no idea what's emui's ram management policy, but on a scale, this would be the least likely cause for sure