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First off, let me apologize for asking what to many is probably a straightforward question, but I've spent the better part of the last two days stumbling around, and as Moses did after 40 years, I figure it's time to stop and ask directions....
Recently received a PPC 6800 Mogul (Sprint) after many years of Treo and BB use. Let me say that I love and hate the phone at the same time. Love the fact that it operates like a PC....hate the fact that it takes forever to boot up. But such is life.
In my travels on this site and others this weekend I've downloaded some cool apps and I've been able to get a few running on the phone. But as I've done so I've realized I need to get some basic CAB or Windows Mobile 101 training.
Is there a thread or threads on here someone would recommend I read to learn the basics of using CAB's or other ways to load apps onto my phone? I really like the way the phone is easier to understand than the Palm OS and WAY better than the BB OS. But I think I'm at the point of being able to get myself into trouble, but not out of it.
Thanks in advance for your patience, your help and your humor as I plod through this. I'll keep you posted as to my successes, and maybe amuse some of you with my blunders.
"I don't find trouble, it just seems to know my address."
Great Start!
Thanks Mike, this is a great start!
With my skill level (and I'm part Irish, so Murphy is always lurking out there somewhere) I'm going to invest in the backup software.
Appreciate your help!
- Here we go, into the wild blue yonder!
HERE is a great place to find some cab files....
Enjoy!
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exe files you run on the PPC and next time you connect to AS it will auto install the programme on the PPC.
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a little typo there ...
although, once in awhile we do get an EXE that specifically meant to be run on the device too ... so you're not 100 % off there
the 2.2 root is looking way to hard for me....i got up to step 5 and after that it wasnt working.
is there anyone that can help me get it rooted with cm6...or guide me thru it? you can use my computer or use yours to root my phone....im in sunrise fl.
i have some knolege..ive hacked my palm pre and iphones before but android is alot harder...
thanks to anyone that can help me!
if no one can help you, i wouldn't give up hope- i'm guessing someone will put a lot of those steps together to get closer to a 1 (or maybe 3) click solution.
this is a very early root solution- it will be improved upon over time.
xeren said:
if no one can help you, i wouldn't give up hope- i'm guessing someone will put a lot of those steps together to get closer to a 1 (or maybe 3) click solution.
this is a very early root solution- it will be improved upon over time.
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i hope so ...as of right now theres too many steps and i could easily mess up on one of them... i hope there is a actual 2.2 root...not a downgrade to 2.1 then root
xeren said:
if no one can help you, i wouldn't give up hope- i'm guessing someone will put a lot of those steps together to get closer to a 1 (or maybe 3) click solution.
this is a very early root solution- it will be improved upon over time.
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Maybe they will update simple root soon, it is a fairly simple and painless process, but I definitely wouldn't give up, just relax, take a breather, remove any files it may have on your phone/sd from previous attempts and try again.
I would offer you help, but I'm already rooted and haven't really looked to far into the process, but I'm sure your not the only one having difficulties if you search around the pertaining threads.
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alextrox69 said:
the 2.2 root is looking way to hard for me....i got up to step 5 and after that it wasnt working.
is there anyone that can help me get it rooted with cm6...or guide me thru it? you can use my computer or use yours to root my phone....im in sunrise fl.
i have some knolege..ive hacked my palm pre and iphones before but android is alot harder...
thanks to anyone that can help me!
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Alex,
I can appreciate your excitement, but its probably not a good idea to let someone do this for you. Just imagine what might happen if something goes wrong. You wouldn't have the background to be able to fix it yourself, and you could end up with a 700 dollar paperweight that Sprint tech support would laugh in your face if you tried to warranty it.
Just give it time and be patient. Read, re-read, and triple read every post in the root thread to see where others are getting hung up and take notes! In the end, you'll feel much better about gaining the knowledge yourself!
ROMs are meant as tools for the learned, not for the inexperienced. This is why they aren't supported by Sprint and HTC under warranty. You can easily damage your phone or at least render it temporarily useless if you don't know what you are doing.
As was said before me, these things will get easier in time. Just take the extra time to learn about how all this stuff works. Don't hesistate to ask questions about your journey learning to fish!
Good luck!
+1 Yeppers, nothing like a good old sense of accomplishment...
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Just did it myself. Make sure to completely follow all the instructions as stated and it's actually pretty easy.
i wanna get into the dev community. I realized i use what people make, but unlike alot of people, i wanna give back a little. Basically what im asking for is someone for me to message throughout this whole ordeal, and help me with some step by step things, walkthroughs, videos, anything to help me get going. Id prefer them to be roms devs themselves. i also enjoy long walks on the beach and just getting to know each other
I'm in the same boat bro. I wanna get into it as well, although I don't have the time to devote to it right now.
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SynysterSilence said:
i wanna get into the dev community. I realized i use what people make, but unlike alot of people, i wanna give back a little. Basically what im asking for is someone for me to message throughout this whole ordeal, and help me with some step by step things, walkthroughs, videos, anything to help me get going. Id prefer them to be roms devs themselves. i also enjoy long walks on the beach and just getting to know each other
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there are numerous tutorials on xda, rootz, and other sites on building from source and/or making sense (oem skin) roms
theres no quick step to get going, though building straight from someones source (which isnt really developing) requires just a few commands once ur build environment is set up
really though, most rom devs (well maybe not most, but many) started with theming first to get gain a working knowledge of the structure/set up of a rom and what controls what...as well as basically smali editing/apk decompiling and the tools needed
aosp requires a semi working knowledge of java to actually build your own things rather than syncing and building someone elses
there are plenty of devs that enjoying helping new folks out...but its kind of understood that you ll do some research on your own and have some knowledge of what ur doing...its a lot to kind of ask someone to talk you through every single thing that goes into it
from my own personal experience it, it took me several months of theming before i felt confident enough to tackle a rom project...and even then they were rom collaborations with people a lot smarter than me (sbrissen, adrynalyne, imnuts, etc)
nitsuj17 said:
there are numerous tutorials on xda, rootz, and other sites on building from source and/or making sense (oem skin) roms
theres no quick step to get going, though building straight from someones source (which isnt really developing) requires just a few commands once ur build environment is set up
really though, most rom devs (well maybe not most, but many) started with theming first to get gain a working knowledge of the structure/set up of a rom and what controls what...as well as basically smali editing/apk decompiling and the tools needed
aosp requires a semi working knowledge of java to actually build your own things rather than syncing and building someone elses
there are plenty of devs that enjoying helping new folks out...but its kind of understood that you ll do some research on your own and have some knowledge of what ur doing...its a lot to kind of ask someone to talk you through every single thing that goes into it
from my own personal experience it, it took me several months of theming before i felt confident enough to tackle a rom project...and even then they were rom collaborations with people a lot smarter than me (sbrissen, adrynalyne, imnuts, etc)
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so if i were to start off with theming, what tools/programs would i need for my windows 7 running computer?
SynysterSilence said:
so if i were to start off with theming, what tools/programs would i need for my windows 7 running computer?
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JDK, SDK, apktool, gimp, notepad++,and there's a search tool that I can't remember off the top of my head. That's all I got right now. And all I'm gonna run for a while.
Swyped From My MikRunny'd Superphone Using TapaTalk 2
awesome, now where do i go to start learning how to theme?
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awesome, now where do i go to start learning how to theme?
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This might help...my really old fascinate theme guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932856
nitsuj17 said:
This might help...my really old fascinate theme guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932856
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wow good stuff bro thanks alot
wow this is actually just about what im looking for. its not very in depth, mostly the basics from the looks of it, but it sure as hell is a great start. i appreciate it.
I'm taking a java course this summer to help me make some ROMs. I would recommend it.
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i would but i dont have the time nor the money for it. my dads got his masters in computers tho i could probably get help from him for things like that.
My parents gave me their old laptop, I have ubuntu on it. When I get the time, I want to create my ROM based on CM9. I want to learn Java too, because I would like to do some themeing too.
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My parents gave me their old laptop, I have ubuntu on it. When I get the time, I want to create my ROM based on CM9. I want to learn Java too, because I would like to do some themeing too.
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Theming doesn't require java knowledge
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827256
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483332
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957219
I know this is a question but I'm hoping to get some help on development for this and the info I gather may be usefuluseful for other ROM development
I guess what I'm mainly asking for is someone with dev experience to help me walk through setting up my environment and getting this going, and someone who doesn't mind endless newbish questions. And possibly doing a little bit of development along side of me if I run into something I can't handle
idontwanttobeanoob said:
I guess what I'm mainly asking for is someone with dev experience to help me walk through setting up my environment and getting this going, and someone who doesn't mind endless newbish questions. And possibly doing a little bit of development along side of me if I run into something I can't handle
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I should have a disclaimer that I am not a full developer really and anything I say can and should be corrected by a real dev but I tend to know a good deal more than the average end user so therefore I try and help where I can
That said, from what I've seen from other devs getting the ROM on the device isn't that hard once you know how and assuming it's not some tricky ROM meant for a specific device (that said, MIUI is the kind of ROM that to me seems like it should be easy to get on a wide number of devices). So, if you want MIUI, it's probably best to ask for someone to port it and if it isn't too hard (I don't think it is) it's just a matter of the dev being nice enough
Teaching you to compile the ROM on your own though, may actually take a lot more time and effort. If you want to learn to make ROMs, which actually is rather easy compared to other parts of developing if you're not making your own from scratch, you could learn to do that, but it's probably better to learn the basics and go to a thread for it.
If you just want MIUI for your KF2, it's probably easiest to ask a dev to do it for you.
As always, any dev feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
iytrix said:
I should have a disclaimer that I am not a full developer really and anything I say can and should be corrected by a real dev but I tend to know a good deal more than the average end user so therefore I try and help where I can
That said, from what I've seen from other devs getting the ROM on the device isn't that hard once you know how and assuming it's not some tricky ROM meant for a specific device (that said, MIUI is the kind of ROM that to me seems like it should be easy to get on a wide number of devices). So, if you want MIUI, it's probably best to ask for someone to port it and if it isn't too hard (I don't think it is) it's just a matter of the dev being nice enough
Teaching you to compile the ROM on your own though, may actually take a lot more time and effort. If you want to learn to make ROMs, which actually is rather easy compared to other parts of developing if you're not making your own from scratch, you could learn to do that, but it's probably better to learn the basics and go to a thread for it.
If you just want MIUI for your KF2, it's probably easiest to ask a dev to do it for you.
As always, any dev feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
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I'm actually finishing up my college work then I'm setting up my environment. I don't believe getting at least an alpha build up and running will bentha hard, I just need someone to double check my work so that no one is bricking their device due to a mistake I make
On the note of questions, is it possible to make a suitable Linux environment with the wubi installer?
Setting up Ubuntu now
base and port rom downloading now, ill keep everyone up to date with progress
Any update? para would be a nice port also! I tried but couldn't get it to boot...
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Any update? para would be a nice port also! I tried but couldn't get it to boot...
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Biggest issue I'm having is finding the tools and getting the drivers to work on Ubuntu. Its a bit of a learning curve but no worries I'll get this baby working. Also got a project I'm helping a friend with for the nook.
idontwanttobeanoob said:
Biggest issue I'm having is finding the tools and getting the drivers to work on Ubuntu. Its a bit of a learning curve but no worries I'll get this baby working. Also got a project I'm helping a friend with for the nook.
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Also what device does para run on? Easiest way to port a ROM is make sure its one that already works on a similar device ( porting miui for kindle fire to the kindle fire 2) also the ROM your trying to port should have the same screen density. The three links up top seem to be excellent sources of information
for anyone thats interested i believe im almost done with an alpha version of the port, im asking a few newbish questions as im teaching myself as i go and im gonna try to have some people take a look at what i did just to make sure theres no insta brick on flashing it.
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for anyone thats interested i believe im almost done with an alpha version of the port, im asking a few newbish questions as im teaching myself as i go and im gonna try to have some people take a look at what i did just to make sure theres no insta brick on flashing it.
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Hi mate, I'll test it! thanks for links going to check them out, I know paranoid runs on nexus 7 I will have to check
Cheers!
Chrisbabs85 said:
Hi mate, I'll test it! thanks for links going to check them out, I know paranoid runs on nexus 7 I will have to check
Cheers!
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Once I get some help with the update script and have someone take a look at the files to see if they can see any major issues I'll upload it and send you a link. However basic disclaimer around here applies.... If the world ends etc I take no responsibility. Ie don't sue me lol. But that being said can't wait to finish this.
idontwanttobeanoob said:
Once I get some help with the update script and have someone take a look at the files to see if they can see any major issues I'll upload it and send you a link. However basic disclaimer around here applies.... If the world ends etc I take no responsibility. Ie don't sue me lol. But that being said can't wait to finish this.
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Oh wow. Nice progress! It's good to see more development around here! I'm glad you found the help you need and everything went smoothly (so far)
Best of luck!
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Oh wow. Nice progress! It's good to see more development around here! I'm glad you found the help you need and everything went smoothly (so far)
Best of luck!
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Thanks
So far I'm stuck until I can either a figure out update scripts myself or I get some help. Everything seems OK but till I can try to boot this myself I can't really tell. Also once the HD codec issue is fixed I'll be merging that, I'll also be taking suggestions for fixes.
idontwanttobeanoob said:
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So far I'm stuck until I can either a figure out update scripts myself or I get some help. Everything seems OK but till I can try to boot this myself I can't really tell. Also once the HD codec issue is fixed I'll be merging that, I'll also be taking suggestions for fixes.
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Update script should be fairly easy just compare the base and port I guess?
I got Ubuntu set-up and I'm going to begin porting paranoid. Also don't worry I have a few test devices
idontwanttobeanoob said:
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So far I'm stuck until I can either a figure out update scripts myself or I get some help. Everything seems OK but till I can try to boot this myself I can't really tell. Also once the HD codec issue is fixed I'll be merging that, I'll also be taking suggestions for fixes.
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Oh I forgot about HD....hmmm. I am not sure how difficult patching things from other ROMs in is, but it seems like the next hascode release should fix most if not everything majorly wrong and I think that would be a better base point for building ROMs. It could be easy though and the thing is pretty damn stable. I've only ever had one issue beyond HD and re-flashing fix it so, possibly this is a good build to work off of
Yeah, it seems no one is really on right now but later they may be able to help, especially in IRC
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Update script should be fairly easy just compare the base and port I guess?
I got Ubuntu set-up and I'm going to begin porting paranoid. Also don't worry I have a few test devices
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One would assume but with semi limited knowledge on them I come to two assumptions, first off is the simple fact that I know the partition tables are different. So if the script tries to send something somewhere it doesn't belong it could be bad, second I see some differences in the scripts that I don't understand and there for do not want to mess with them until I do or someone who does will explain.
My goal is to not brick any testers kfires just seems bad for business
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One would assume but with semi limited knowledge on them I come to two assumptions, first off is the simple fact that I know the partition tables are different. So if the script tries to send something somewhere it doesn't belong it could be bad, second I see some differences in the scripts that I don't understand and there for do not want to mess with them until I do or someone who does will explain.
My goal is to not brick any testers kfires just seems bad for business
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After looking more in depth at the update script I saw one major difference...
Which is to do with the dev/block
So I went with the previous ROMs update script and I'm making the zip for initial testing now.
Fingers crossed
idontwanttobeanoob said:
After looking more in depth at the update script I saw one major difference...
Which is to do with the dev/block
So I went with the previous ROMs update script and I'm making the zip for initial testing now.
Fingers crossed
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Good luck mate, if you think it's OK send me the link for testing...
Cheers!
Has anyone found any tutorial videos on how to root, install custom recovery(TWRP looks tough to be entirely honest) and custom roms?
It always boosts my confidence to see someone successfully installing custom things.
Also I have never used LG products and have no idea how to do basic things such as getting in recovery etc. I have experience with samsung phones but nothing other than this:/ Would anyone be kind enough to redirect me or make some tutorial videos:$?
Kind regards
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b3ava said:
Has anyone found any tutorial videos on how to root, install custom recovery(TWRP looks tough to be entirely honest) and custom roms?
It always boosts my confidence to see someone successfully installing custom things.
Also I have never used LG products and have no idea how to do basic things such as getting in recovery etc. I have experience with samsung phones but nothing other than this:/ Would anyone be kind enough to redirect me or make some tutorial videos:$?
Kind regards
Also if you are interested please show your support to this topic
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There are highly detailed and step-by-step guides on how to do it on the board. You know they work by people saying that it did and the lack of threads freaking out that their device is thrashed. Please be thankful for what you've got and just read what we put together.
b3ava said:
Has anyone found any tutorial videos on how to root, install custom recovery(TWRP looks tough to be entirely honest) and custom roms?
It always boosts my confidence to see someone successfully installing custom things.
Also I have never used LG products and have no idea how to do basic things such as getting in recovery etc. I have experience with samsung phones but nothing other than this:/ Would anyone be kind enough to redirect me or make some tutorial videos:$?
Kind regards
Also if you are interested please show your support to this topic
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i mean i rooted it and installed CM on it in a car 10 minutes after I bought it so i mean, confidence should be boosted
mustbepbs said:
There are highly detailed and step-by-step guides on how to do it on the board. You know they work by people saying that it did and the lack of threads freaking out that their device is thrashed. Please be thankful for what you've got and just read what we put together.
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Wow. I do not understand your negativity, this would only help newer users like me and keep people like you having less to critisize. As for the detailed guides which you mention either I have not stumbled across them(in which case you could point out but you dont seem to want to help from your initial responce) or we have a different understanding of detailed step by step guides.
Either way if you do not want to help I suggest not responding and being thankful that you have the option to cary on with your schedule, reading what you feel is more important.
Thank you for stopping by and pointing out your opinion
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i mean i rooted it and installed CM on it in a car 10 minutes after I bought it so i mean, confidence should be boosted
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Can you point me out to your reading resources? I looked in the sections having a difficult time understanding how to install twrp recovery and later on how to get in recovery(button combo)
b3ava said:
Can you point me out to your reading resources? I looked in the sections having a difficult time understanding how to install twrp recovery and later on how to get in recovery(button combo)
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As far as resources it mainly comes from doing this a bunch and reading the thread, the way I did it was different than the twrp thread in a couple ways, I'll explain in a bit
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thoughtlesskyle said:
As far as resources it mainly comes from doing this a bunch and reading the thread, the way I did it was different than the twrp thread in a couple ways, I'll explain in a bit
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Thanks in advance
b3ava said:
Wow. I do not understand your negativity, this would only help newer users like me and keep people like you having less to critisize. As for the detailed guides which you mention either I have not stumbled across them(in which case you could point out but you dont seem to want to help from your initial responce) or we have a different understanding of detailed step by step guides.
Either way if you do not want to help I suggest not responding and being thankful that you have the option to cary on with your schedule, reading what you feel is more important.
Thank you for stopping by and pointing out your opinion
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Just do research instead of asking others to provide you with videos. If you learn it yourself and learn the ins and outs, it'll benefit you greatly when something inevitably goes wrong and you can figure it out yourself instead of relying heavily on others. As you move step by step in the guides, if something doesn't make sense to you, just Google it. It's not hard when you get used to doing it. Not trying to be mean or rude, but if you don't want to help yourself, we can't help you.
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Just do research instead of asking others to provide you with videos. If you learn it yourself and learn the ins and outs, it'll benefit you greatly when something inevitably goes wrong and you can figure it out yourself instead of relying heavily on others. As you move step by step in the guides, if something doesn't make sense to you, just Google it. It's not hard when you get used to doing it. Not trying to be mean or rude, but if you don't want to help yourself, we can't help you.
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i will give him one thing though there is a pretty vital command missing in the twrp thread to get it to execute, or at least from how I did it on every other device
here is a link to a video on how to access recovery via the 3 button method.
I recorded it with my phone so I am sorry/not sorry about the quality but it gets the job done.
also i can relate with you on wanting to see it visually, even as somebody who knows what they are doing, especially things involving button combo's I have a harder time reading than if i just saw a 30 second video on how to do it.
http://youtu.be/uo3YfszOPsQ
as for the recovery flash that's a little more involved and i already have my device rooted so if i did it, it would be from CM, and i'm not entirely sure if that would cause a problem (i don't think so though because loki is cool like that)
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Just do research instead of asking others to provide you with videos. If you learn it yourself and learn the ins and outs, it'll benefit you greatly when something inevitably goes wrong and you can figure it out yourself instead of relying heavily on others. As you move step by step in the guides, if something doesn't make sense to you, just Google it. It's not hard when you get used to doing it. Not trying to be mean or rude, but if you don't want to help yourself, we can't help you.
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Dude get over it you seem to have far too much time on your hands.
I didnt ask for anyone to make videos i asked if anyone knew of any videos. Since you didnt want to help or still dont get off the bloody topic. There is no point of doing what you did. If you wonna be arrogant im sure you have friends and family for that. Im fed up with your negativity. If you didnt want to be rude you could of just said im sorry i dont like sharing or helping noobs and moved on.
Thank you for annoying me 2day I wish you well. And when you get stuck on something and require other peoples help on a FORUM They all redirect you to google so you understand what a joke your responce is.
Ps didnt mean to be rude. But if you didnt know the meaning of a forum now you do.
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here is a link to a video on how to access recovery via the 3 button method.
I recorded it with my phone so I am sorry/not sorry about the quality but it gets the job done.
also i can relate with you on wanting to see it visually, even as somebody who knows what they are doing, especially things involving button combo's I have a harder time reading than if i just saw a 30 second video on how to do it.
http://youtu.be/uo3YfszOPsQ
as for the recovery flash that's a little more involved and i already have my device rooted so if i did it, it would be from CM, and i'm not entirely sure if that would cause a problem (i don't think so though because loki is cool like that)
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I will repeat again.i did not ask for anyone to go out of their way and make videos i asked if anyone found videos. That by no means says i am not greatful for the small and perfect video you made. Rooting seems to be very easy its the recovery that I am having doubts about cause it seems to be a lengthy procedure. And requires what seems to be a ton of commands