First time desire root help. - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi my wife has a desire and I have done my best to clear data and move apps to SD but she now only has 4mb left. Dose this mean its time to root. The only bit I am interested in is having the same software she has now but being able to move all apps like maps and Facebook to SD. Can I do this and save all the data and stuff set up like contact etc on her phone. What is the best and most reliable guide to use and is it easy for a first timer to do?
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You can install a custom Sense ROM which will give you the same software. Look in the development section for Gingerbread 2.3 stock ROMs. Rooting is as easy as it gets on a Desire. All you need is UnrEVOked, Google it and it's a one click job.
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If I root can I then move all apps to SD? To do this do I have to install a custom Rom.
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Well, there are a lot of answers to that simple question. You can use Clockwork Recovery which is installed when you root (access it by turning the phone off and holding volume down and the power button, then using the volume rocker and volume keys to select Recovery) find create EXT partition on the SD card 1 gig will be fine, and get a ROM with data to SD, which will dump all apps to the SD card. You can even dump the whole System onto your SD card giving you ~ 900mbs internal memory.

So I have to root then install a custom Rom to make more space and move all apps. Can you recommend a good reliable Rom and if poss a good guide.
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kpf16 said:
So I have to root then install a custom Rom to make more space and move all apps. Can you recommend a good reliable Rom and if poss a good guide.
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Download UnrEVOked follow it though, and you'll have root, I'll have a look and see if I can find a suitable ROM for your needs.
ROMs are very subjective, don't let people tell you this one is better than that one, it's all a matter of opinion. I am just anticipating people posting to tell you try this and that and the other.
Post back when you are done and I'll show you what I've found.

Sorry for the silly question, do download to my pc or phone?
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Download to your PC. You'll need to connect your phone via USB to run it.

MIUI is pretty good
I quite like Redux too , fantastic battery life with that one !

Right, have a look at InsertCoin Sense 2.1.1.1.0 A2SD.
it's a direct link to the download, download it and connect your phone, transfer the .ZIP file over to your SD card.
Once you're done you'll need to power off the phone, hold volume down and the power button, let Fastboot load, using the volume rocker select Recovery with the power button.
The most important thing you can see here is 'Nandroid' or 'backup and restore' as it's now called. Click it and backup your ROM, It will save the entire phone as it is, texts, apps, calls everything. So if anything goes wrong you can just simply go into Recovery and 'Restore' and bobs your uncle it'll all be back to normal again.
After doing that, using the trackball select 'Advanced' at the bottom of the Recovery Menu, then 'Partition SD Card', they say 512mbs is fine, but if you've got the space go for a 1 gig partition with zero swap file if your prompted for one, I don't think Recovery asks you for one. All your system apps and future downloaded apps will be stored here.
Then go to 'Wipe data/factory reset' on the main Recovery page, it'll wipe your phone back to stock, then clear the cache which is the option underneath. After this is done go to 'Install zip from SD card' give it a few mins and it'll install and you'll be back at the Recovery main screen, click 'Reboot system now'.
First boot can take, they say, up to ten minutes (it never does) so give your phone a few minutes to boot up and get settled. Then voila, you've got apps that will auto install to the EXT3/4 partion created on the SD card and you'll have a shed load more internal space.

Thanks, ill give it a go in the next few days and let you know how I get on.
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One last question, I understand the back up In case things go wrong but if I just install the Rom and all is good I take it I will lose for example, texts and contacts etc. I'll have to set up my phone like I just got it out of the box.
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It may sound a bit daunting but root is really as simple as one click. Recovery is easy to 'master' and ROM flashing is a breeze. You'll wonder why you didn't look into beforehand when you're all up and running.
There are some really nice apps for rooted users as well, Set CPU to overclock, Root Explorer is the best file explorer, LCD Density will change your resolution Titanium backup for backing up apps if you ever need to reset the ROM. Look into them all, most I would say are essential.
Do let us know how to get on.

kpf16 said:
One last question, I understand the back up In case things go wrong but if I just install the Rom and all is good I take it I will lose for example, texts and contacts etc. I'll have to set up my phone like I just got it out of the box.
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You will yes, you can save contacts to SIM of course but you will loose everything else, all game saves, settings and the like. This is where Titanium backup comes in handy it will save all apps and their save states making changing ROM or hard resetting much less painless.
It's a pain loosing everything to start with, I know I've done it a few times, but Titanium is a mans best friend and there are loads of apps that will save SMS, I don't know if they actually require root to run though, that would be ironic, lol.

Do I want the Rom with [desire] on it?
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Sorry that should have been a direct link to the ZIP, it's the Desire '
A2SD: http://www.multiupload.com/HBZB8FIK8Z' File.

Thanks and thats the whole Rom with app to sd?
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kpf16 said:
Thanks and thats the whole Rom with app to sd?
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That's the one.

I know Kalavere has pretty much explained most of it for you. But heres just a guide which i followed when i first rooted my phone about 2 weeks ago. It really helped out alot and has videos to . Its easy to follow to.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084

Dose the above Rom have the sence UI, also do I have to format the SD card she currently has in her phone?
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Moving apps to SD card

Just installed both new Leedroid an pinky roms and am having a terrible time with low on space warnings, when I didn't use to with same apps. Two questions
1. I installed with rom manager and ticked the wipe option, is there anything else I need to check or wipe etc
2. Is there a way to move apps to sd where the option doesn't exist in the standard application manager?
Cheers
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Format card to fat32 on pc,install Rom manager to desire from market.use partition card tab in Rom manager.
Could tho depend on type of card tho
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Cheers for the response, but it would mean wiping card, which is a problem for me. Any other answers?
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marmin said:
2. Is there a way to move apps to sd where the option doesn't exist in the standard application manager?
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If you mean it's greyed out, try this solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742379&highlight=google+earth
worked flawlessly for me
Looks good, a little drastic though. May give it a try when I get back to a pc in a few days. Was hoping for something I could try in the field. .... literally!
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In the thread linked above, there was something to try with the terminal emulator for rooted phones, that might be of use to you?
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[Q] HTC Evo 4G

Ok so I'm new to androids completly. Was looking to root my new phone. Let me start off by saying I'm in Japan and have the HTC Evo 4G. I was attempting to use unrevoked but seem to be stuck at how to get to the hboot. I just updated to 2.3.4 and when I power off my phone then hit volume down and power button to gain access to hboot it simply turns the phone back on. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Head over the the revolutionary.io site, you should be good to go. You have to use that method to root for gingerbread on the evo.
Check this thread for rooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218386
And turn off fast boot in settings/applications and then try to boot into hboot I think thats where it is I'm not sure I haven't been on sense in a while I'm not even sure if a stock ROM has it but look there to boot into hboot.
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done
disregard this post please
Take out the battery, put it back in, hold volume down + power key for 3-5 seconds to get into bootloader. Theres a youtube video, can't remember what its called, but it shows step by step on how to root through Revolutionary. Very easy. Took me like 5 min to root
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Rooted!!
Ok so I managed to get it rooted without bricking. Currently backing up the phone then will look into ROM's. Thanks for the posts
Problem
Ok so my phone states it's S-off but I have DLed some things like titanium backup, adfree and when I go to use them it says unable to gain root access??
jaydub5150 said:
Ok so my phone states it's S-off but I have DLed some things like titanium backup, adfree and when I go to use them it says unable to gain root access??
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did you flash a recovery and super user apk?
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linsalata28 said:
did you flash a recovery and super user apk?
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Umm ok apparently not. so now I got that downloaded on my PC how do I flash it to the phone??
jaydub5150 said:
Umm ok apparently not. so now I got that downloaded on my PC how do I flash it to the phone??
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the recovery should be a PC36IMG.zip you flash that in hboot just make sure its on the root of your sdcard not in any folders then when you go to hboot it will find the update just except it.
The su apk should be a flashable zip just boot to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache then go to flash zip and choose that zip and flash it then reboot.
If this is your first time in recovery before you do anything make a nandroid backup this will backup everything in case anything goes wrong you can restore the backup and your phone will be just the way it was when you made the backup.
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the recovery should be a PC36IMG.zip you flash that in hboot just make sure its on the root of your sdcard not in any folders then when you go to hboot it will find the update just except it.
The su apk should be a flashable zip just boot to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache then go to flash zip and choose that zip and flash it then reboot.
If this is your first time in recovery before you do anything make a nandroid backup this will backup everything in case anything goes wrong you can restore the backup and your phone will be just the way it was when you made the backup.
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Ok got it all figured out. To be honest you had me lost and I almost made another noob post but I got it now. Figured out the whole flash to SD card deal. I am 100% rooted now. Now for a ROM
I downloaded the synergy rom and it deleted my carrier email app. Do all roms do this?? I'll say it again here, I'm in japan so might be a little different from the states. Anybody know how I could get it back using this rom?? Or a good rom to use that won't delete this app.
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I downloaded the synergy rom and it deleted my carrier email app. Do all roms do this?? I'll say it again here, I'm in japan so might be a little different from the states. Anybody know how I could get it back using this rom?? Or a good rom to use that won't delete this app.
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What happens is when you flash a rom, its a whole new phone basically [os] so it comes packaged with its own apps, themes. What you can do is:
- go into recovery, backup your current rom
- restore your initial backup
- use / download es file explorer [free] from the market
- enable su permissions, then navigate to /system/app and copy it to your sd card
- go back to recovery, restore the synergy backup
- once booted, install the app from the sd card
or if it was backed up, open titanium backup, restore the app and data.
Thanks for the help teh roxxorz. I got the mail thing figured out. Worked with es file but didn't work to well with titanium backup. Took some trial and error to find all the files needed cuz the paste the whole folder didn't work. Having other issues finding the contacts and getting force closes, so I decided to just not use that rom. On to finding another good one that works.
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So I tried miui and that didn't work as well. Couldn't get the mail to work at all on that rom. Anybody happen to be in Japan and using this phone and could suggest a good rom to use that they have their au email and contacts moved over on, and have minimal issues?
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Switching ROMs: move apps back to phone?

I want to switch back to CM7 from Oxygen. Is it a good idea to move all my apps back to the phone before switching, so they're not all floating around on the SD card after I switch? I'm not going to wipe the SD card.
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I want to switch back to CM7 from Oxygen. Is it a good idea to move all my apps back to the phone before switching, so they're not all floating around on the SD card after I switch? I'm not going to wipe the SD card.
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Installed apps? If you change ROM to a totally different one, full wipe is required, which means all your apps will disappear. If you dont want to install all your apk-s copy them into the .zip. I keep all the apps in a folder on the SD-card to install after ROM- change.
Use Titaium Backup you can find it in the market(free app) but with the Pro version restoring your apps is MUCH easier
I'm not talking about restoring apps after installing a new rom (although I appreciate the help on that too). I just don't want the apps that I've transferred to the SD card to be left there.
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It won't be a bad idea what you wanna do.
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Or maybe I'll just uninstall them all...
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DamonZ28 said:
Or maybe I'll just uninstall them all...
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I have read somewhere that you can delete all folders from the SD except the ones you have copied (photos, music, etc.)

[Q] BootManager Support

I want to use both ICS and Gingerbread.. I tried the BootManager app, but it says that the device is not supported and it shows me a screen for manual settings. If someone has used it then please tell the proper way to manually configure it.
PLEASE HELP
THANKS IN ADVANCE
I use boot manager, I had a lot of trouble getting it to work on cm7, it would not write the images to my SD at all, although unsupported they helped me get it setup as there is some coding in the app which would theoretically make it work for us, the only way i could get round the problem was by flashing a sense based Rom on which it worked first time, I now have sense on my phone but can easily switch to oxygen, cm7 or ics which are all installed on my SD card. The only bug I've found now is that after booting into an SD Rom to go back to my main phone Rom I need to reboot into recovery and select advanced restore to restore the boot.img.
Also what version are you using, I'm using the latest one paid for on the market and don't need to enter any settings manually.
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My question is if you have messages on one SD card rom. Are those messages still there when you boot into a different rom?
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Yes its just as normal all the data that's written to the SD card is saved to the data image for that Rom.
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Probably a dumb question!

When fishing roms do you have to keep the download on your sd card after you've made a nandroid back up? My card was getting full so I deleted a ROM I never used anymore from the sd card, just to be curious I restored from recovery and it worked just fine, even though I had deleted the download. Have I had a full sd card all this time for nothing? Lol
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yes for sure =)
coachmoore said:
When fishing roms do you have to keep the download on your sd card after you've made a nandroid back up? My card was getting full so I deleted a ROM I never used anymore from the sd card, just to be curious I restored from recovery and it worked just fine, even though I had deleted the download. Have I had a full sd card all this time for nothing? Lol
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Install zip is just needed for a fresh install. If you have a working Nandroid you can delete the original zip.
Not that dumb a question, believe it or not. Its been asked by plenty of others.
But the answer is you can just delete the .zip file, after you've flashed it. I tend to keep some of the files on my PC, just in case I want to do a fresh flash from them (not use a nandroid). But that's just a personal choice, and something I've rarely (if ever) done. But with hard drive space so cheap, doesn't hurt to have some backups.
Thanks guys! I download all of then to my phone so it was really taXing on my card! I deleted all the zips, now I have alot of room!
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coachmoore said:
Thanks guys! I download all of then to my phone so it was really taXing on my card! I deleted all the zips, now I have alot of room!
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I had the same problem at first...
Now i've got no place left because of too many nandroid from different ROMs. One of my hypothesis is that ORD is a virus spread by SD Card manufacturer ;p
I leave most of my nandroids on my computer along with all the other downloads for my phones, roms, apks, kernels, etc. I have an 8gb sd card and use drop box. Try to keep pictures, music and videos to a minimum but somehow I always seem to run low on space. I guess we all have to get 16gb cards!
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Yes, you can delete it. Personally though, I delete all but the last ROM I downloaded, just in case I get an error with the new ROM, I can flash the old one back right there.

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