I know this may sound crazy, but I can not seem to find any of the files needed to install kernels (hydra or kings). I have found numerous threads about kernels but i have not found any website offering links to the files needed to install the kernels
Anyone have this problem?
socratus said:
I know this may sound crazy, but I can not seem to find any of the files needed to install kernels (hydra or kings). I have found numerous threads about kernels but i have not found any website offering links to the files needed to install the kernels
Anyone have this problem?
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Hydra kernels disappeared around a year ago. I still have them somewhere if you really want to try them, but they are HUGE kernels and I believe there are better alternatives today. KingxKlick kernels... well.... I don't know the full story behind that, but you won't be finding his either, unless I or someone else feels like posting them somewhere. Again, I believe there are better alternatives. Among Sense kernels, Lou's, Chad's, and Ziggy's are the best in my opinion, with Ziggy's being the fastest, most tweaked out of them all.
Oh, ****, well thanks Loonatik. I was wondering why I couldn't find any of them. I have a rooted phone and the regular stock kernel; I wish to overclock but aren't sure of which kernel to download. Any suggestions?
Using an Android Incredible as well..
+1 for Chads... I've used it for a long time now on various ROMS, and always get great battery life out of it!
For overclocking, the only 2 kernels I'd even consider are Chad's and Ziggy's. I give Ziggy's a slight advantage because his allows scripting to alter voltages and clock speeds without the overhead of having to use an app. For Chad's, the newest he's got for Sense is the 12/23/10 kernel. Ziggy's is the 4/10/11 kernel. Both are very respectable and perform so well discerning the difference is almost impossible.
Here's my complete list of kernels for the HTC Droid Incredible: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169150. You can also get to it by clicking on ROM list in development, he links to it at the bottom. I really need to message a mod to get this as a sticky.
ithrewitontheground said:
Here's my complete list of kernels for the HTC Droid Incredible: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169150. You can also get to it by clicking on ROM list in development, he links to it at the bottom. I really need to message a mod to get this as a sticky.
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Indeed. It's certainly worthy of it.
I believe you can use scripts with Chad's kernels as well, most people just seem to prefer the convenience of an app. He had voltage scripts you can use with incredikernel long before his incredicontrol app.
ithrewitontheground said:
Here's my complete list of kernels for the HTC Droid Incredible: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169150. You can also get to it by clicking on ROM list in development, he links to it at the bottom. I really need to message a mod to get this as a sticky.
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mods are very scarce on this forum
k_nivesout said:
I believe you can use scripts with Chad's kernels as well, most people just seem to prefer the convenience of an app. He had voltage scripts you can use with incredikernel long before his incredicontrol app.
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and yea you can flash the scripts on chad's like you can with ziggy's or any other kernel with HAV's and sysinf or something like that, some type of kernel interface.
POQbum said:
mods are very scarce on this forum
and yea you can flash the scripts on chad's like you can with ziggy's or any other kernel with HAV's and sysinf or something like that, some type of kernel interface.
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I've never flashed a script to a kernel dInc kernel. I just write them or tweak them and push them. Whether a kernel has hybrid adaptive voltage scaling HAVS makes no difference regarding scripts. You probably want to play with a kernel with static voltage scaling (SVS) when you're first OC'ing to figure out where it's stable and not. What it does need is some kind of sysfs interface, which Chad's and Ziggy's both do. I think Ziggy's is better because it permits more parameters than voltage and clock to be adjusted. You can customize governors, wake-up, and sleep behavior too, as well as set governors for different conditions. If you're going to experiment with scripting the kernel, you'll want to try out your script via terminal emulator so that if you're parameters don't work, the phone just reboots back to stock settings. If you use a flashed script, you're stuck with it unless a removal .zip is provided or you wipe and restore from a backup.
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How do you install one, same as any other zip file flash?
What are the different options for an incredible?
I am currently running the a 2.2 leak and will be flashing to the newest leak once the dust settles on all the different version popping up. I do need WiFi tether working too. I don't care about getting some great score on a benchmark app, just want to see what kernals offer to a normal user.
Yep, installed just like any other zip.
We have Hydra Kernels and Kingklick Kernels
Hydra - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701282
Kingklick - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760050
Both of them support wireless tether, its just a matter of reading up on them and choosing which one you personally prefer. I use the Kingklick BFS #1 Kernel.
Is there any major difference between hydraulic and king?
rmoney said:
Is there any major difference between hydraulic and king?
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you'd have to read the change logs. They both run various OC and undervoltings to save battery life while maintaining performance.
I've ran hydra .3, .5, kingklick 1,2,3 and so far KK #3 has worked the best....can finally get ~24 hours out of one charge on stock battery.
Best would be to nandroid backup and see which one works for you the best.
Subject says it all. I'm using Virtuous 3.2.0 with a stock kernel, and it just sucks the life right out of the battery. Plus, when I unplug it from the charger, it instantly drops to 96%. Any suggestions? I'm not a n00b to this stuff, just recently stumbled onto this forum and registered 5 minutes ago. I've also used Cyanogen 7 with the same results.
I like the Sense layout, so is there any "stock" deodexed ROMs that have good battery life?
Ok I lied. I am a n00b when it comes to kernel's. Don't know anything about them, or what they do.
I tried one with Virtuous., and all it did was force reboot every minute or so, so I went back to the stock kernel.
Uber kingdom !
First of all, all phone/ROMs/kernels/everything drop a few percent immediately, and for amazing battery life, I used the 12/23 incredikernel. If you are looking at 2.3.3 you can only use the kernel that comes with the ROM. I got about 8 hours of moderate/heavy use out of it today.
I've found that SkyRaider and using Chad's incredikernel are the best match (make sure you use the one labeled for sense, it's at the very bottom of his 1st post)
As another user pointed out, when you first flash a ROM / Kernel your phone doesn't quite know how big your battery is, so it'll take a few days for it to calculate properly.
The gingerbread releases I've found are a bit harder on the battery, as developers continue to develop better kernels and ROM's I'm sure that will change.
Also a few general tips:
- Don't use Task Killers
- Make sure you don't have apps that auto update frequently, and if you do and want them to keep doing it, know that this puts further battery drain.
- Download "spare parts" and check under battery stats for programs that use a lot of Data, CPU, and GPS.
- Don't overclock (if you're using chad's incredikernel then don't worry about anything regarding your CPU, his kernel takes care of all of it)
- Read this article to better understand how your battery is working: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
Link to IncrediKernel Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848453
Link to correct Sense kernel download:
http://chad0989.dyndns.org/2.6.32.27-incredikernel-12232010_signed.zip
I know that was a bit long but hope it was helpful.
POQbum said:
I've found that SkyRaider and using Chad's incredikernel are the best match (make sure you use the one labeled for sense, it's at the very bottom of his 1st post)
As another user pointed out, when you first flash a ROM / Kernel your phone doesn't quite know how big your battery is, so it'll take a few days for it to calculate properly.
The gingerbread releases I've found are a bit harder on the battery, as developers continue to develop better kernels and ROM's I'm sure that will change.
Also a few general tips:
- Don't use Task Killers
- Make sure you don't have apps that auto update frequently, and if you do and want them to keep doing it, know that this puts further battery drain.
- Download "spare parts" and check under battery stats for programs that use a lot of Data, CPU, and GPS.
- Don't overclock (if you're using chad's incredikernel then don't worry about anything regarding your CPU, his kernel takes care of all of it)
- Read this article to better understand how your battery is working: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
Link to IncrediKernel Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848453
Link to correct Sense kernel download:
http://chad0989.dyndns.org/2.6.32.27-incredikernel-12232010_signed.zip
I know that was a bit long but hope it was helpful.
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I've heard of spare parts from reading other forums. What exactly does that program do?
I do use advanced task killer. I'll uninstall it and see how it goes. And as for the updating frequency, I use facebook, have it set to update every three hours, as well as the weather widget. Other than that, I don't have a whole lot of apps, besides angry birds and a few things here and there that don't update.
And as far as kernels, I'm more nervous about flashing those more than ROM's. I'll check out Chad's though. Thanks for the advice!
RMinor205 said:
I've heard of spare parts from reading other forums. What exactly does that program do?
I do use advanced task killer. I'll uninstall it and see how it goes. And as for the updating frequency, I use facebook, have it set to update every three hours, as well as the weather widget. Other than that, I don't have a whole lot of apps, besides angry birds and a few things here and there that don't update.
And as far as kernels, I'm more nervous about flashing those more than ROM's. I'll check out Chad's though. Thanks for the advice!
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You shouldn't be nervous about flashing kernels, all ROM's already have a Kernel included, so you do already flash them. As long as you make a nandroid backup via ClockWorkMod Recovery, then you should have no worries at all when experimenting with new setups.
Spare Parts is basically extended settings menu. The most useful features is it allows you to speed up basic and common transitions, and allows more in-depth view of programs using your battery and exactly what is using your battery (vibrating, 3G, Screen On, a certain app, CPU, etc)
It's free and it's not risky at all, so I suggest you give it a download.
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You shouldn't be nervous about flashing kernels, all ROM's already have a Kernel included, so you do already flash them. As long as you make a nandroid backup via ClockWorkMod Recovery, then you should have no worries at all when experimenting with new setups.
Spare Parts is basically extended settings menu. The most useful features is it allows you to speed up basic and common transitions, and allows more in-depth view of programs using your battery and exactly what is using your battery (vibrating, 3G, Screen On, a certain app, CPU, etc)
It's free and it's not risky at all, so I suggest you give it a download.
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Ok.
I downloaded it. It is a very good app.
But for what it's worth, if FC every time i click "battery history".
I searched the forum, but so far I haven't found anything conclusive.
My question is, which is the best kernel in terms of OC possibility and battery saving?
I like the Kernel from the DK froyo RoM but the fact that I cannot overclock past 528 MhZ bothers me.
Note: I am currently on the Nightly CM7 Kernel which seems to drain the battery rather quickly and for some reason does not see my wifi hotstop -_-
Any suggestions?
Im on CM7 nightly to (#152).
Battery is a BIG problem! Also When charge gets to 80% the green charge light goes on?
I think it kernel related!
I also want to overclock to 710 Mhz at the minimum!
Indeed the cm7 kernel has some big problems. So far i've found out that with it you cannot connect to wifi hotspots, cannot detect wifi hotspots, it drains the battery too fast, and usb debugging doesn't work...
Nevertheless, I have replaced it with the one in my sig, but am still opened for suggestions for a better kernel.
The default kernel from DK Custom Froyo v 4.5.1 was good, but it didn't allow OC.
Thats interesting guys, I've been looking for a ROM for my wildfire, but my main concern is BATTERY LIFE.
I thought CM7 was supposed to increase battery performance? Should I be looking somewhere else? I'm just after something a little more responsive, stable, and an increase in battery.
toycar69 said:
Thats interesting guys, I've been looking for a ROM for my wildfire, but my main concern is BATTERY LIFE.
I thought CM7 was supposed to increase battery performance? Should I be looking somewhere else? I'm just after something a little more responsive, stable, and an increase in battery.
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Results vary widely. I am getting impressive battery results with CM7 (~3 days, with moderate usage), and I am very happy with it. However, on an initial install of CM7, battery life is terrible, but, after 1-2 discharge charge cycles, it somehow automatically fixes (calibrates) itself.
ah, thats great news, I was hoping for longer battery life
CM7 does seem to be the most popular ROM and has the most development. I'm sure I can live without Sense, but it is tempting to try some of the tweaked Sense ROMs to keep things looking familiar. Any recommendations on that?
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ah, thats great news, I was hoping for longer battery life
CM7 does seem to be the most popular ROM and has the most development. I'm sure I can live without Sense, but it is tempting to try some of the tweaked Sense ROMs to keep things looking familiar. Any recommendations on that?
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JokerDroid is the current favorite , seeing its popularity. But the only one I have extensively tested is WildPuzzle 2.2.1, and, I liked it a lot. So, you might want to consider that as well. (With a new kernel, not the included one)
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JokerDroid is the current favorite , seeing its popularity. But the only one I have extensively tested is WildPuzzle 2.2.1, and, I liked it a lot. So, you might want to consider that as well. (With a new kernel, not the included one)
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New kernel? Which new kernel would you recommend?
toycar69 said:
New kernel? Which new kernel would you recommend?
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nFinity MC4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995301
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nFinity MC4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995301
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awesome, another one to test on my list
I've already downloaded Jokerdroid, no reason to change the kernel on that one?
No, it already includes the nFinity kernel.
Really appreciate all your help 3xeno!
So I'm now running JokerDroid, which has the nFinity 2.6.32 kernel. Would there be any benefit to dropping the nFinity 2.6.35 into it?
Also, with regards to overclocking, is there any way to control the overclocking that is built into the JokerDroid ROM?
I'm thinking of minimising the overclock, to try and get the best battery life.
toycar69 said:
Really appreciate all your help 3xeno!
So I'm now running JokerDroid, which has the nFinity 2.6.32 kernel. Would there be any benefit to dropping the nFinity 2.6.35 into it?
Also, with regards to overclocking, is there any way to control the overclocking that is built into the JokerDroid ROM?
I'm thinking of minimising the overclock, to try and get the best battery life.
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I don't think so. Besides, I think 2.6.35 is Gingerbread only.
You can use an app called SetCPU to change the OC values, and add new profiles as well. The dev has uploaded it on XDA in a thread somewhere (Just search for it, you should find it without any issues)
ah, great. Yes I found the SetCPU app, but I wasn't sure if using that would conflict with the settings built into JokerDroid.
Guess I'll leave it set as it is for the moment, then mess with the settings in SetCPU if I feel I need to squeeze more out of it.
Thanks again!
cm7 works great! Have gone 3 days without a charge
Is there any Kernel with OC and WiFi working that doesn't cause copyBit errors?
I'm currently on nfinity-mc4 and it just messes up logcat completely.
So should I install nFinity 2.6.32 or this one with its useless filesystems? The upstream arco repository is gone and I'm not going to compile one from kernel.org for my primary phone
And can I use ClockworkMod 2.5.0.7 to install? My phone has S-ON and stock 2.2.1 rom (rooted, of course).
Hello there,
So as the title says, does anyone have some Kernel recommendations me?
As you probably know I'm running on CM 7.1 stable with 12.54.60.25U_26.09.04.11_M2 radio if that even matters, and the default kernel which comes with CM 7.1.
I've seen a lot of people around here use LorDModUE kernel. I don't exactly know much about kernels so I have no idea how one kernel would perform in comparison to another or even how it would effect the functionality of the phone in general.
So what made you want to change your kernel in terms of performance and features? Which features stood out to you most and why?
Thanks a lot for any help on this matter!
Cheers
No one can help me out with this topic here?
I used Lordmod Kernal 8.5 BFS when i used CM7.1
hope this helps
It's your phone, your expectations, your needs, your time.
Backup, flash, test.
Didn't like it? Restore backup.
Wanna try another? Flash again, test.
It's fun, you will see.
Some people experience issues with a bfs kernel where their internet will stop working after a while until they toggle their connection on and off. Installing a cfs kernel will fix this. If you have no issues though and have all the options you want, then their is no need to change it unless you just want to test out other ones. As stated, some prefer one over another.
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It's your phone, your expectations, your needs, your time.
Backup, flash, test.
Didn't like it? Restore backup.
Wanna try another? Flash again, test.
It's fun, you will see.
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Hmm yes I do like messing with my phone haha, though I only have one so it's my main phone. Can't be having too much fun just in case it decides to give me lemons .
Does flashing Kernel require wiping data? I guess that's not such a big problem since I have TB to help me out in that department but it would save a lot of trouble if one did not have to wipe data every single time.
Cheers
Gizmoe said:
Some people experience issues with a bfs kernel where their internet will stop working after a while until they toggle their connection on and off. Installing a cfs kernel will fix this. If you have no issues though and have all the options you want, then their is no need to change it unless you just want to test out other ones. As stated, some prefer one over another.
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Oh that would suck wouldn't it? I've heard BFS > CFS right? Does it really make a noticeable difference? I was going to go try out BFS anyway since it sounded a bit more interesting.
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I used Lordmod Kernal 8.5 BFS when i used CM7.1
hope this helps
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Thanks for this! Glad to know it's CM7.1 friendly.
EDIT: Sorry for the double-post! Thought it would automatically combine like I've previously experienced, guess not.
Yup... That's about right.. LordMod 8.5 BFS pretty much gave me the best performance out of the ones that I tested while on CM 7.1
And yes.. although I haven't experience a very significant difference.. BFS is a performance enhancement over CFS according to LordClockan.. He's the kernel guru so I believe him!
I've been around these forums for over 6 months now, and we've all been anxiously waiting for the source code of ICS kernels. Everyone always says that it's not the OTA we want, but the kernel source. Even I have been really excited to get it... but recently I've been wondering... why? What exactly does the kernel source allow us to do? I'm not a developer by any means, but from the limited knowledge I have, these are the features the source will allow us to do:
- OC/UV without having to use Tegrak
- Custom kernels
What else? This post isn't mean to criticize or anything... I'm just genuinely curious how the kernel source will help us on ROMs. If you know anything, please post.
Kernel source gives us the opportunity to add a variety of things like:
OV/UV
More/different CPU Governors
A variety of I/O Schedulers
Different kernel modules
Support for more/different filesystems
And the big one we are hoping for with GSII is a fix to that dang ICS recovery bug! :/
MandaNick said:
Kernel source gives us the opportunity to add a variety of things like:
OV/UV
More/different CPU Governors
A variety of I/O Schedulers
Different kernel modules
Support for more/different filesystems
And the big one we are hoping for with GSII is a fix to that dang ICS recovery bug! :/
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Thanks for the informative response. Yeah I was gonna mention the superbrick bug but I think developers found a workaround using TWRP and Agat's recoveries these days.
Sorry for being a noob, but what are different kernel modules?
Hahaha don't be sorry man, we are all noobs in some way! They did find a workaround for it, but they are also not sure that their workaround will work in 100% of all use cases. If you read their first post there is some worry about "super wipe" packages over-riding their safe binary.
A kernel module is a piece of functionality written after the kernel is compiled. It is compiled into what is called the module, and then loaded into the kernel. This allows developers to add bits of functionality without having to rebuild their whole kernel.
The kernel is like the motor that helps our phone run. When tuned properly, it will purr, give us good gas mileage and make the driving experience more enjoyable.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
Hahaha well that's one way of putting it! The kernel sits in-between the hardware and the software, and essentially enables them to interact together. I guess you could call it the middle-man, putting things into a language both the application's and then hardware itself will understand
Source code is the map to put the engine together correctly. Given enough time a dev might be able to build the kernel from scratch, but what's the point of driving yourself mad like that. Right now it's like they're tinkering with a demo engine but can't be fully sure that they're putting the parts in the right place.
It's more like all the parts to put the correct engine for your device together(The map would be the make files ). Right now they are using different parts from various different engines to try and assemble one that works for our "car".
Haha thanks for the responses. I forgot about this thread for some reason but I'm back to give you guys thanks And yeah I know what a kernel is heh but just the basics... I know basically next to nothing about development of kernels at least
Since is up I will add the all important to some of us reason. CyanogenMod9. I always knew I would one day ditch Samsung firmware for CM9 but i didnt know our phone would get it so soon. Once we have kernel source our developers will be able to write a proper CM kernel easier than it has been for developers like sbrissen to do one from scratch. Once that is done we can get rolled into official CM releases.
Other than PRL updates I am never going back to Stock firmware.