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So I moved my apps2SD. Then installed a ROM. How do I get it to "find" the SD apps?

So I moved my apps2SD. Then installed a ROM. How do I get it to "find" the SD apps?
I'm being told that my SD card is full. AND my internal memory is full. I have a feeling that the apps are installed in 2 different places. Is this the case? How can I tell?
I'm a mess, don't know where to start. Thanks for any help.
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What method did you use to move them to your SD card?
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dglowe343 said:
What method did you use to move them to your SD card?
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This app called SDMove.

I've never used that before. I've always used Dark Tremor A2SD. Most of the roms support it. It requires partitioning your SD card. It will also move dalvik to SD which really frees up space. It's recommended using a class 4 card or faster.
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dglowe343 said:
I've never used that before. I've always used Dark Tremor A2SD. Most of the roms support it. It requires partitioning your SD card. It will also move dalvik to SD which really frees up space. It's recommended using a class 4 card or faster.
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I never partitioned my SD Card. I guess that might be a problem, and is probably why they never show up on the SD Card? I don't know.
Does partitioning the card require reformatting the SD Card?

If you installed a new rom without doing a full wipe, the rom should load all your apps if there are no conflicts. Thd SDMove app is just an easier way to move apps that can be moved to SD storage instead of going through HTC's app management in settings.
In regards to DarkTremor's A2SD, yes you would have to reformat your SD card to create an ext 2 or 3 partition. Most custom roms should state whether a2sd is available and then you just setup the partition in recovery. Make a complete backup of your SD card onto your comp that includes a nandroid backup and Titanium backup or MyBackup Pro app+data set.

In order to determine if you have multiple copies of your apk's , use a file manager and search your evo. I use "app 2 sd" on the evo using root explorer I found that apk's are kept in "mnt/asec" and "mnt/secure/asec" , which are folders on the sdcard. Since you used an application to move your apk's to the sdcard and not the OS apps2sd, you should find only one occurrence of each apk.

[Q] Ext2 required for SD card apps (AuraxTSense rom)?

Hi,
I'm confused about the right way to run the Desire with apps on the SD card. I'm running AuraxTSense with a FAT 32 formatted SD card.
I was able to ADB and run pm setInstallLocation 2, and I have the option tomove apps to the SD card, In addition, Titanium Backup and Apps2Sd reports that most of my apps are successfully located on SD card. Also, on the SD card, I see an "ASEC" directory that seems to contain most of my apps; I thought that this was an indication that the apps were located there.
However, it doesn't seem like moving apps to the SD card has worked properly. Whenever I install an app, it looks like it goes on the SD card, but I lose the size of the app from my internal memory. Also, when I uninstall, the corresponding amount of space frees up in my internal memory. I've verified this with the DiskUsage app.
Has anyone else noticed anything like this? Should I have created an Ext2 partition for apps to successfully install just to the SD card?

Hey there,
It seems as if you are just using Froyo's built-in apps on SD card function.
This just takes some of the files from the app and places them in .android_secure on the SD card, but large parts of the application may still remain in internal memory.
You can see just how much is left in your internal memory by scrolling to an app in Settings > Applications > Manage Applications. The "total" space taken in this screen is the space taken on your internal memory.
I'm afraid this is the best Froyo can do. If you have moved all apps to SD card you can and you're still running out of space, you may need to install a custom ROM with Apps2SD.
Hope this helps

aha.
Thanks, that cleared things up for me. I was puzzled when I did this
- checked cardiotrainer in 'Manage Applications', saw 2.5 mb total
- moved it to the phone, checked 'Manage Applications', saw 7.3 mb total
- moved it to SD card, saw 2.5 mb again
I didn't realize that the "total" was just the total in internal memory, and that only a portion of the app was getting moved.
thanks very much for the clarification.

craigcharlie said:
I didn't realize that the "total" was just the total in internal memory, and that only a portion of the app was getting moved.
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The "whole" of the app itself gets moved to SD card.
What does not get moved is:
1. The Dalvik cache entries
2. Any data stored in /data/data
Note that no version of "legacy" A2SD (i.e. those using an EXT partition on SD card) moves /data/data to SD card due to stability concerns.
Personally, I use Froyo A2SD, but compress the Dalvik cache using fusecompress.
Regards,
Dave

That's more great info, thank you.
After doing some research, I noticed that the AuraxTSense ROM supported Apps2Sd and Dalvik2Sd, both of which require an ext2 partition.
I decided to take the plunge and format my SD card to add an ext2 partition.
I used the following steps
- backed up everything to sdcard with titanium backup
- backed up all sdcard data to my pc
- used ROM manager to partition the card (512mb ext, 64 mb swap)
I've since rebooted and now my storage is reported at 122 mb, instead of 18
Simply put, this rocks. I've just copied all my data back to the SD card (including the ASEC folder, the apps I'd 'moved' to the card before relied on these files) and my apps seem to be working fine.
Now that I have all this space, I can actually move the more intensive apps back to the phone now, since this should increase performance.
thanks to all who answered, I hope this thread helps some people who were as frustrated as I was by the lack of space on this awesome phone!

foxmeister said:
The "whole" of the app itself gets moved to SD card.
What does not get moved is:
1. The Dalvik cache entries
2. Any data stored in /data/data
Note that no version of "legacy" A2SD (i.e. those using an EXT partition on SD card) moves /data/data to SD card due to stability concerns.
Personally, I use Froyo A2SD, but compress the Dalvik cache using fusecompress.
Regards,
Dave
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@foxmeister
Pls how do you do the fuse compress, need a guide.
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@scorror
Look at this thread here.
I suggest you read the entire thread, but post #29 contains the update zip relevant to the kernel on my device.
Regards,
Dave

Just another update to say that my phone is working great.
It's like a completely different phone. I thought that 2 or 3 FCs a day were normal. I haven't had one since I moved to this method.
I'd like to highlight that I unset pm setInstallLocation.
To be honest, I think that that caused many of my problems. I had several apps whose widgets kept disappearing after lock/reboot. after unsetting setInstallLOcation and reinstalling the offending apps, the widgets are no longer disappearing.
The phone seems faster as well. I read a comment some where that AuraxTSense might seem a bit slower if you didn't have an ext2 partition, and I have to say that in my experience this is definitely the case.

[Q] deciphering link2sd

I've been plagued with free space issue on my HTC Desire and I appretiate that Link2SD can help me free up those precious space i require.
Can someone share with me how i can interpret the data in LInk2sd, so that it can help me determine which are the actual apps that is taking the most space in my HTC Desire memory (and differentiating those that are stored in the sdcard).

Just found link2sd the other day. I originally used a method on XDA somewhere to change the default install to the sd card first, which enabled me to push more apps to the sd card using apps2sd. This did free up space, but recently found myself low again.
Link2sd has saved me. I have a Htc desire, stock orange uk rom, S-OFF and rooted.
I used ubuntu and gparted to partition my 8gb sd card. 2nd partition set at 1024mb both set as FAT32 partitions. Link2sd recognises the second partition and list the apps, you can sort by size. You can't link system apps. But the biggest apps I have are google maps, flash player 10.3, facebook, market and voice search that are install to phone only that are now linked to sd.
Before link2sd I had 17mb!!! free, now i have almost 60MB!!!!!!!!

[Q] After partitioned my SD card, where the space had gone ?

Hi all "I am new at this stuff so apologies for my ignorance in the following explanation"
I have a rooted desire phone with a 4GB class 4 SD card and clockwork recovery
The internal free phone storge was 51.2MB, and I decided to partitioned my SD card in order to free more space for the app. "which is 90% of them are on the SD card" and for using some custum room "I actually dont konw the use of partitionning in custum room" but that what I read
So, I partitioned my SD card using Rom Manager with 512mb ext and zero swap with no errors, after that I put all the app. back to the SD card with no problem and all app. run smoothly from the SD card
I checked the internal phone storge using "DiskUsage" and it was as follows
Data 147.6MB
Application 35.4 MB "some of this app. can not move to the SD card & the other I wanted on the internal memory like Astro"
System data : 61.0MB
Free space 51.2MB "which is the same as befor partitioned as well as all the above sizes "
And the SD card total space was 3.21 GB which mean that the 512 MB suppose to be ext. partion right now
The Qustion is where is the 512 MB that suppose to be ext. partion ? Should this partitionning prosses free the internal memory of the phone ? and what is the use of partitionning in custum room ?

It is kind of weird at first when your new to it all. Took me a few weeks to get use to it and understand how it roughly works.
When you partition your SD card so you have an ext partition, it won't actually show up as internal memory. The internal memory is being read off of the /data partition. To make it simple, the ext partition acts like it's "hidden" so to speak. To get it working you would need an A2SD script at least. Depending on what rom you have, the script could be an addon, where you have to flash it after the rom, or it would be built in so it's just up and running anyway.
You can check to see if the ext partition is working. Apps can see if it's working, just search around in the market. To get the apps onto the ext partition, you would probably have to move them, but don't use the moving feature in Settings > Manage applications.

Thanks for your reply
I actually didnt flashed any custom rom yet "I am planning to" and I am running the stock rom froyo 2.2 which have the move 2 SD card feature, and the only app. that I had in this matter is "Move 2SD Enabler" which with It I moved almost all the application that I want to the SD card "some app I cant like the maps"
But even after the moving of all app. the internal phone memory is the same
I mean I cant feel any deference after the partitionning
So How can I use this 512MB ext partition or when ?
and also are these free space on the internal phone healthy ? or may I suffer a space problem when I tried to flash a rom? and what kind of ext does the rom manager do ext.2 or 3 or 4 ? and does it matter when flashing a rom ?
Sorry for the dozen of questions

With most roms it comes with A2SD (there are other deviations of it but the same principle). This is a script which tells the rom to install apps to the ext partition on your SD card instead of the internal memory. Thus, you get more app storage.
When you have A2SD, only the apps get put on the ext partition. Other things like the data for the apps and the dalvik cache stay on the internal memory and will (eventually) fill up the internal memory. That's where d2ext for example comes in. (You can read about all this stuff in your own spare time).
Recovery/rom manager uses ext3 but you can upgrade it to ext4.

Use Titanium Backup to free up space (CDMA)

I just thought I'd share a little tip that I used to free up 30 mb on my Desire CDMA. Obviously, with CDMA, our options are limited in freeing up our limited amount of space since we can't take advantage of cm7r2 or data2sd. I was playing around with my phone the other day, and was using Titanium Backup to move data to the SD card. I just thought it would only move the current data to SD, but it seems to force apps to use the ext partition to store data! At first I just tested with a few apps that store a lot of data on internal memory (Trapster, Facebook, Navigon). When those apps continued using the ext partition for data, I moved data from most of my apps to the SD card, and so far I haven't encountered any errors.
I have a US Cellular Desire CDMA rooted s-off and running CM7.1, darktremors apps2sd script, and an ext4 partition on my SD card. To move data to the SD card, load Titanium Backup and click on the Backup/Restore button at the top. Long-click on the apps that use large amounts of data storage, scroll down on the pop-up menu, and click on "Move app data to SD card."
If I've missed or left out anything, please chime in.

Most of mine have been moved already , but one that I have not moved, for what ever reason , have a warning at the bottom of the menu:
" Warning : moving apps to SD is risky." etc etc
There is however no option to move the apps.