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Hey guys I have had my Evo for awhile now and Sprints network has great coverage BUT the 3g seems abysmally slow. For instance, I can rarely stream videos without it buffering - youtube videos on regular quality mind you. If I stand still in a place with good signal I will be fine but if I'm moving etc it is slow. I get around 100KB/s during daytime where I live and 130KB/s night time which is great but luckily I also get full signal where I am. On the go, it sucks.
Are there any ways to increase 3g speeds or is it purely network related?
Welcome to sprints idea of 3g
God's honst truth man... if thats all you get... thats all you are going to get because sprints 3g network is the worst i have ever seen. Bar none. Even little us cellular has better coverage and twice the data speeds as sprint does here in iowa.
There is no possible way for the phine or any hack to it to speed up sprints crap network.
My advise to you is to cqll sprint and plead your case, that you paid for 3g and are getting 1x rtt speeds 24/7 and politely demand a credit to your account like i do every month.
And then call back about 5 minutes later and ask to speak to the retention center because you want to cancel your service because you arpe not getting service you are paying for.
Then tell the retention persion you were thinking of getting the Airave but cant afford it and see if they will give it to you free on the basis of poor service and they typically will.
I did, and got one for when i am at work and the boss wont let me use it because it uses works internet for voice and data.
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Figures... Should have went with ATT or Verizon.
I know in the old days of 3g internet hacks Sanyo phones had a data cap screen that was accessible via ##040793##. From there you could change the data rate, 144K/230K. Not sure if we have the same here but phone codes may be a place to start.
Mmmmhmmm. Just be glad you don't have the epic and are capped at 150kbps up.
I think sprint has finally gotten 2 good phones and 4g, so now they think they're the top dog and can do whatever they damn well please...it's like a cycle with them. Bad service>>>loose all of their customers>>>cheap, semi-good service>>>get customers back>>>become assholes again>>>loose their customers...
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Figures... Should have went with ATT or Verizon.
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lol, good luck getting a decent phone on att or verizon. Let alone coverage. Oh and dont forget about the data caps on the phones, 100mb right? or was it 200mb?
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lol, good luck getting a decent phone on att or verizon. Let alone coverage. Oh and dont forget about the data caps on the phones, 100mb right? or was it 200mb?
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Well Verizon has amazing android phones for one. There is a data cap for ATT which is true but no cap for Verizon. You know now that I think about it I might do the force roam hack on my Evo and see if if I get better 3g speeds.
I have no idea what any if you are talking about, I get better 3g speeds on Sprint then I ever did with any other carrier I've had.
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am I doing something wrong?
on 3g I pull down at least 512 up
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Hey guys I have had my Evo for awhile now and Sprints network has great coverage BUT the 3g seems abysmally slow. For instance, I can rarely stream videos without it buffering - youtube videos on regular quality mind you. If I stand still in a place with good signal I will be fine but if I'm moving etc it is slow. I get around 100KB/s during daytime where I live and 130KB/s night time which is great but luckily I also get full signal where I am. On the go, it sucks.
Are there any ways to increase 3g speeds or is it purely network related?
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I wish I could get speeds that fast consistently. Actually what you are getting is right about on par for 3g. That's prob the avg speed one would expect to get. There are higher areas and lower areas depending on a lot of things. A 100KB connection is nothing to complain about. I've personally never had a connection over 150 KB.
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Not sure if its sprint or my phone but I can't break 40kbs down on anything and 3g cuts out all the time. Crappy....
The first thing I would do to verify your 3g speeds is to unroot your phone, and make sure you are running the latest .93 hboot release and sprint ota release. If your phone is already in this state (un rooted and latest hboot) then ignore me.
You should also look into unrevoked forever if you haven't already...it runs off the current hboot, and I've noticed that something about that hboot does help 3g speeds on some rooted phones if you go that route.
I've done a ton of research and practical testing on this subject and I can say without a doubt that the evo's current rooting methods DO have a negative impact on some 3g phones in some areas. And I'm not talking about 100 or 200 kbps here or there. In the same house, same phone, 1 rooted and 1 not. That was the ONLY difference. The rooted phone got 7 kbps. The stock got 1800kbps. I swapped phone setups so that the rooted one was now unrooted and vice versa. That time the rooted one got 47kbps and unrooted was 1681 kbps...in other words the problem followed the rooting process, and not the phone. I've done dozens of tests like this and others in various areas within the surrounding wilmington delaware area.
I have access to 3 rooted evos, 1 evo that is always stock, as well as a samsung moment. The 4 evos are all rev 3 nova. I also did similar tests on the hero with the same sorts of results. Feel free to pm me or post here with any questions.
EDIT: the kbps numbers I listed were for download speeds. Upload speeds on both rooted and unrooted, regardless of build or boot version, were consistent at around 600 -700 kbps during almost all of my testing.
EDIT2: I forgot to say - this problem also happened to me when I changed recoveries from clockwork to AmonRA. So it's not JUST the rooting process that can cause this, but several low-level engineering commands, such as flashing a kernel, upgrading a ROM, etc.
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That's pretty crappy, I get full 3g pretty much everywhere around St. Louis until I get out to the country. And pretty good 4g around town. My 3g is about 1.5mb down. 4g is 5 to 7mb down.
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Flash the PRL to connect to Verizon's towers. I get 1.2 mb/s even see 2mb/s occasionally. Of course ping times are raised.
It's pretty hit or miss here, one day I will get 50-150k down and the next it will be +1meg. Next time it get drops below 500 you can bet I will be talking to somebody about it though, their advertised 3G speed is 600kb - 1.5mb.
100kb is ridiculous
I get anywhere between 500-1mb down 100-200kb up. My 4G easily does between 2-6mb down and 1mb up. People just love to complain. You didn't realize this within your 30 day trial? If so, why didn't you switch carriers?
What should the prl be right now ? And how are you guys testing the speeds? Nvr done it
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You live in an area with poor coverage or your phone has a faulty radio.
I get good signal and up/Downs on 3g. If I nandriod away from cm6, I can get 6-7mb down and 1mb up with 4g in San leandro CA.
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What should the prl be right now ? And how are you guys testing the speeds? Nvr done it
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Speedtest... its in the market.
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I think it is my radio. I was getting fine speeds up until 3 days ago when I noticed severe loading lag in my tethered apps. I get decent pings ~ 200-300ms which is not too out of the ordinary. I did a speed test other day and it was 50KB/s down and 70KB/s up. I figured it was just a faulty day but it has gone on far too long now. This is with 5/5 bars too... Just gotta wait for my new Evo to come in. Seems like every hardware ****up is happening at once.
OK, so I just upgraded from the original Evo 4G to the Epic 4G touch...
I see all these people debating whether or not to wait on Sprint's LTE network and 4G this and 4G that...
Am I the only one that has never had 4G coverage where I live and I get pretty decent 3G speeds so I guess I really dont care.. other than the fact that I'm paying $10/mo for "premium" data.. it's still cheaper than the other guys.
And by the time Sprint's LTE makes it to me (a relatively small town at about 200k), I'll have upgraded 3 more times... lol
I've used 4G when I travel and I guess I just haven't had that great an experience.. too much of a battery hog for the amount of speed increase gained..
Am I alone here?
nope you just havent let the xda mob hysteria get to you... if everyone took a step back and put all these issues into perspective like that there would be no posts in general!
I've had my 4g on all day sometimes and it'll result me with 20% less battery usually. That's with 70% 4g coverage thru the day.
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Hey Blak, i agree my bro. I live on a small rock in hawaii and ill probably upgrade atleast 2x more aka 4 years before i see 4g so i dont care at all. Im just happy that hopefully within 6 months ill have ICS. That will be fun. I dont mind the 4g thing at all.
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I'm in the same position. I live in WV, and there's no 4G here. My 3G speeds are sufficient generally, but at the moment I'm not really in a position to care about LTE/WiMAX yet.
I'm not sure if this region will ever get 4G, to be honest.
You are not alone. I live out in long island NY and I'm about an hour from the city and have yet to get 4g here. Even Verizon, att and tmo don't provide 4g out here.
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That's what I thought... you just wouldnt know it from reading some of the posts around here..
Everyone talks about Sprint's crappy 3G and coverage... Well I guess I'm lucky because I get good speed and never drop calls where I'm at so 4G just doesn't matter all that much to me.. thanks for the replies
I get great 3g as well and no chance of 4G coverage anytime soon... You just don't hear from us sane people all that often because we are normally enjoying our phones and we don't complain about every small bug.
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Im in Boise, we have 4g, but I never use it. I might use 4g once every two months. I dont have an issue with the 3g speeds, and it saves my battery.
I'm in Alabama, north of Birmingham in a high tech community of just under 200k people and I doubt we see 4G anytime in the near future so that doesn't factor into my phone decisions. Overall I get really good 3G speeds (with the exception of a few mystery zones in the city) so I'm happy to wait and see how it plays out because I'm a frequent upgrader as well and have bought more than a few phones at full cost because I wanted them but had no upgrade available lol Sprint should really love me.
I have good 4g coverage and I keep it on all the time. I can go from 6am-11pm with about 30% left.
But frankly, I don't really use it unless I am watching hockey. And if I am doing that, I am draining the battery anyway.
This thread is reminding me to shut off 4g as 3g is much better on the battery.
I'm not to worried either. I'm on wifi every second at home cuz obviously saves battery and when I leave the house I make sure my 3G/mobile network is off so its not bringing in data so I only turn my 3G on when I wanna check FB, twitter something like that. Living here in central iowa I have never had a chance to check out 4G. A few friends have verizon and des moines has 4G which is half hr from me and they say its amazing. I go to chicago every spring for vacation I managed to get 4G on my evo hit and miss and wasn't nothing amazing IMO
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No wonder Sprint is so cheap
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Agreed. These are my 3G speeds:
This is Sprint's so called "3G". There's really no point of unlimited data when Sprint's 3G is basically already throttled the whole time.
Even though I think their "3G" is so bad, I still don't switch to another carrier since Sprint has Unlimited data. I still don't switch despite the fact that those carriers (ATT, Verizon, T-Mo) have prepaid plans that are half the price Sprint. Oh, and did I mention those plans have data limits that are higher than the actual carrier plans?
But nah, I'm not gonna switch to prepaid even though it would be so logical.
(This post isn't serious. Instead, it's basically how I interpret people's posts complaining about Sprint's 3G. If you don't like it, switch carriers...)
Oh I totally agree I have no plans on switching I've been with Sprint for 3 years and am just hoping they improve their network to something more acceptable
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if i wasn't on a family plan with people in an area where it works better, i would have left. I get the same speeds as the OP. The thing is, in the exact same area 2 years ago, the speeds were great.
My speeds all 3g except a few wifi
The ones with abismal speeds were then ones with no bars
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r u fukn kidding me?!
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Agreed. These are my 3G speeds:
This is Sprint's so called "3G". There's really no point of unlimited data when Sprint's 3G is basically already throttled the whole time.
Even though I think their "3G" is so bad, I still don't switch to another carrier since Sprint has Unlimited data. I still don't switch despite the fact that those carriers (ATT, Verizon, T-Mo) have prepaid plans that are half the price Sprint. Oh, and did I mention those plans have data limits that are higher than the actual carrier plans?
But nah, I'm not gonna switch to prepaid even though it would be so logical.
(This post isn't serious. Instead, it's basically how I interpret people's posts complaining about Sprint's 3G. If you don't like it, switch carriers...)
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1x!? i would give my left nut to get that on 3g. i'm lucky
to get half that speed. and when i do its a very rare occasion. sprint better blow the roof off with this lte ****. this beautiful phone is going to waste being crippled like this
Their 3G speeds are okay for me like I like it because when I'm out side of the house it takes about 3 secs for a page to load which is impressive to me and at least you got some data connection I rarely use 3G to surf the web but try updating ur PRL to get your 3G speed and more to the latest and fastest version
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Yeah 3g is getting better.
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yousefak said:
Agreed. These are my 3G speeds:
This is Sprint's so called "3G". There's really no point of unlimited data when Sprint's 3G is basically already throttled the whole time.
Even though I think their "3G" is so bad, I still don't switch to another carrier since Sprint has Unlimited data. I still don't switch despite the fact that those carriers (ATT, Verizon, T-Mo) have prepaid plans that are half the price Sprint. Oh, and did I mention those plans have data limits that are higher than the actual carrier plans?
But nah, I'm not gonna switch to prepaid even though it would be so logical.
(This post isn't serious. Instead, it's basically how I interpret people's posts complaining about Sprint's 3G. If you don't like it, switch carriers...)
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Is that roaming on Verizon's network?
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hockey4life0099 said:
if i wasn't on a family plan with people in an area where it works better, i would have left. I get the same speeds as the OP. The thing is, in the exact same area 2 years ago, the speeds were great.
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Yeah same here just a few years ago the speeds were pretty good but we'll see what the future holds I think their network will pick up with all the upgrades they have planned
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Here's my 3G Speed early one Sunday morning in nyc.
Realize it gets as slow as 10% of that download speed during peak times. Quiet morning.
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Compared to my last phone the epic 4g touch the 3g speeds on my s3 is pretty damn good almost as good as the 4g speed on the on the epic 4g touch. So I can only imagine what to look forward to when lte is up in Jersey
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
Is the horse dead yet??
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Is the horse dead yet??
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It's been beaten long enough
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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Is that roaming on Verizon's network?
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100% Sprint. It's what I usually get around my home area. 1000-150kbps throughout the day, 1500-1900kbps at night.
The thing is, I live in a suburban area so the towers aren't used as much. I'm willing to bet that throughout the day there are only like 4 or 5 other people connected to data that actually use their data.
Here's my 3g speed, guess I'm lucky.
I've noticed a few times when I have crappy data speeds. My phone was showing 3g in the status bar, but if I went to SettIngs-->About Device--> Status the phone was actually connected at 1x not 3g. Not sure why it doesn't show 1x in the notification bar.
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I'm with T-Mobile on the one s, my buddy had the sprint Sammy s3 next to mine, though the speed test said mine was smoking fast the Sammy was faster for the user experience, for simple browsing . I'm gonna switch to sprint and get the sgs3
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Here's my 3G Speed early one Sunday morning in nyc.
Realize it gets as slow as 10% of that download speed during peak times. Quiet morning.
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I'm in S.I., and I never see those speeds even on a Sunday morning.
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Here's my 3g speed, guess I'm lucky.
I've noticed a few times when I have crappy data speeds. My phone was showing 3g in the status bar, but if I went to SettIngs-->About Device--> Status the phone was actually connected at 1x not 3g. Not sure why it doesn't show 1x in the notification bar.
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Unless you are rooted and running a custom Rom that is capable of displaying 1x, the stock Sprint Rom will always show 3g.
I suppose my area has something to do with my 3g speeds I live near Cincinnati and I'm sure the towers are over loaded
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Hi all, I have a 2 year contract with Sprint, but I just cant take it anymore, I am planning on cancelling my contract and sign with another company, but I am not sure which one is the best (or less bad) for me in NYC.
Can anyone recommend one with good reception and real data (not the 30kbps 3G sprint has)
Thanks.
In NYC i get 2mbps on where ever the subway is above ground
1.5mbls when ever I'm outside
1mbps ish in building
All on 3g
But i would go use Verizon
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In NYC i get 2mbps on where ever the subway is above ground
1.5mbls when ever I'm outside
1mbps ish in building
All on 3g
But i would go use Verizon
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I get 2.5 mbps in NYC but that is at 3 am. other wise i get between 1-2 mbps. I am also fed up. TMO has a new unlimited no throttle for about 80 per month..My co-worker speed on tmo is 10-14 mbps....
I am starting to think that my phone is broken, because on cloudy days I dont get reception inside buidings, I serious, I am having a bad experience with sprint
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Been hearing that we should be getting lte soon in NYC, but even then that is probably gonna be spotty at best...I had T-Mobile for a long time and never had any issues speed wise, and its fairly cheap, do some research on their new unlimited plan if you can't wait.
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30Glock said:
I get 2.5 mbps in NYC but that is at 3 am. other wise i get between 1-2 mbps. I am also fed up. TMO has a new unlimited no throttle for about 80 per month..My co-worker speed on tmo is 10-14 mbps....
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Isn't slightly over 2mbps the max for 3G speeds? If you're getting consistently over 1, I wouldn't complain. There are plenty of people elsewhere getting a fraction of that...like 10% of that.
I'd be thrilled with consistent 1-1.5mbps 3G speeds. I'm around Chicago, so LTE is in a few places which is nice, but I'm excited about when they finally upgrade the backhaul for 3G so the speeds will be better.
As for the OP, I would also try changing modems as well, see if some of them work better. Check with other NYC people and see what they're using. Modem can have a HUGE impact on speeds.
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Isn't slightly over 2mbps the max for 3G speeds? If you're getting consistently over 1, I wouldn't complain. There are plenty of people elsewhere getting a fraction of that...like 10% of that.
I'd be thrilled with consistent 1-1.5mbps 3G speeds. I'm around Chicago, so LTE is in a few places which is nice, but I'm excited about when they finally upgrade the backhaul for 3G so the speeds will be better.
As for the OP, I would also try changing modems as well, see if some of them work better. Check with other NYC people and see what they're using. Modem can have a HUGE impact on speeds.
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Usually here that from sprint users. Some seem to conform. Others like me who tried sprint realize that's not the 3G full potential.
So I rather pay less for tmobile And get awesome speeds. IMHO
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Having tried Att and Sprint....I got pretty $hitty coverage with both and this was living in the Bay Area.
For my previouscontract, I selected ATT based on reading the online reviews about them having absolute the fastest service. What the reviews didnt mention was that I couldnt get ATT service 10% of the time which got annoying real fast.
When it works...ATT and Sprint work great....but the 10% of the time you don't get connection, you'll wish you went with Verizon. They might be a tad slower based on the bandwidth test results online...but at least the coverage is more consistent
I will try changing modems, and see if I can get a better reception, thanks.
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Usually here that from sprint users. Some seem to conform. Others like me who tried sprint realize that's not the 3G full potential.
So I rather pay less for tmobile And get awesome speeds. IMHO
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I don't mean Sprint 3G, I mean the technology limitations themselves. Even if I hop onto Verizon's network with a 3G PRL, I don't ever remember seeing anything over 2mpbs. I have plenty of friends and co-workers who have Verizon and I've never seen anything over that on any of their phones either.
Is it more of a CDMA/GSM 3G thing? Is GSM 3G faster than what you could get on a CDMA network?
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I don't mean Sprint 3G, I mean the technology limitations themselves. Even if I hop onto Verizon's network with a 3G PRL, I don't ever remember seeing anything over 2mpbs. I have plenty of friends and co-workers who have Verizon and I've never seen anything over that on any of their phones either.
Is it more of a CDMA/GSM 3G thing? Is GSM 3G faster than what you could get on a CDMA network?
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Gsm carriers use a backhauled network capable of much faster speeds ....at least on speedtests
Sprint is implementing backhaul tech over the next year or so.
On 3g (hspa+) I have seen as much as 12mbps down but average 3-5 . This is on our att phones.
Funny thing is though side by side we did some comparisons last year and web pages actually loaded slower on attempt s2 vs sprint s2 .. we never really found an explanation.
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Have you considered forcing the phone to roam and having Sprint cancel your contract due to that? They shouldn't charge a ETF for that either.
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Have you considered forcing the phone to roam and having Sprint cancel your contract due to that? They shouldn't charge a ETF for that either.
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Great way to get out of this miserable non existing service.. In NYC I can get between 1-3 mbps, this is acceptable to me, however where I live sprint is unusable 12kb D/L up does not exist. I called to complain and their attitude was pay the 350 ETF and you can leave.....Well I'm leaving w/o paying this fee..Thank you Roam Control....
Put a post on the marketplace offering to let another user assume responsibility for the contract. I know i would have considered a cheap s3 that way earlier
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Sprint is actually getting better. With the softbank deal, Sprint controls a majority of the lte footprint. They are also getting an $8 billion cash infusion that will help them finish building out their lte footprint faster and at a higher quality. I know a few people that work for Sprint corporate. They have big plans and are actually executing those plans
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Will they be bringing service to places that do not have it (is western Washington)
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Personally i would toughen it out good things are to come for those who wait
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I'm near Baltimore and over the past 11 years have had Verizon, ATT, T-mo, and Sprint. Each provider had pros and cons. I eventually stuck with Sprint (6 years now). They are the most reliable and ever present. Not the fastest but the only time I've been without service is in the Shenandoah mountains south of us where there is no service coverage by anyone. Sprint has addressed every problem I've ever had as long as I was patient with the rep. Oh wait I was patient with the reps from every provider and they bent over backwards to help me. A Sprint rep have my wife an iPhone for $25 during her last upgrade. We presented then with a problem on our bill and they hooked us up with the phone and fixed the bill.
I don't think any service provider is going to be perfect in all situations. I myself would pick reliable over fastest speed.
Just my opinion but stick it out things are changing with Sprint.
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I'm not trolling just getting tired of sprints crapy speeds.
This evening I have made a conclusion: at 2 in the morning I have decent speeds. they're around 1.5 mb. I used to get this all the time. Anyways it seems that there are not many people using the network at 2 am. If I get dial up speeds during the day due to congestion won't I still have the same congestion issuer on this 4G lte, that I am probably not going to see for years anyways?
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I once hated sprint I had speeds of 0.3 mbps speeds. Wait it out lte is a blessing it's fast and unlimited. My friend got verizon and scared to use his phone for fear of going over his data limit lol . I almost went back to T-Mobile but lte came on and I get it everywhere in town and the surrounding cities. I use to average 2gigs a month before lte, now
I use about 30 gigs lol lte make you use your phone alot I download roms, movies from frostwire and tether to play xboxlive and it only take 5minutes to download a 1 gig movie sometimes quicker. WAIT YOU WON'T BE SORRY.
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Its jerks like that tether for xbox live that make it lag so crappy in multiplayer. Cant you just get internet where you live?
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If your city is getting 4G LTE soon then it will definitely get better. In Atlanta I get 4G everywhere I go so I rarely see the 3g icon pop up on my phone. And yes it is fast!
potna said:
If I get dial up speeds during the day due to congestion won't I still have the same congestion issuer on this 4G lte, that I am probably not going to see for years anyways?
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Network Vision isn't just about LTE. It's an entire overhaul of the whole network. That includes switching from overloaded T1 lines to either fiber or microwave-based back haul (depending on the tower's location). The new back haul will be much better at handling the data load, so overcrowded towers shouldn't be an issue anymore.
And for info on when you can expect your market's Network Vision upgrades, check out www.s4gru.com.