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Hi, i have just upgraded to Windows Mobile 6 the black 2.5 edition.
Whilst I was doing it i had my memory card left out which had applications on it, now when I put it back, the applications are not there..? I copied all data from active sync > explore (except my windows mobile device) and then I copied it back after upgrade. I am not fussed that the programs are gone, it would be good to get them back though, and since the card was not inserted during the upgrade, the application files must still be on the card somewhere taking up space...?
Anyways, I can't seem to get the 24 hour clock on it and also can't change the date to the UK style e.g. 24/04/2007, it is stuck in american style e.g. 04/24/2007. Any answers...?
Is Windows Mobile 5 applications supported by Windows Mobile 6? Can I have links to Windows Mobile 6 downloads please
Also , I do not like the boot screen, I want to put a picture of my wife and son, how do I do that? Sorry I am an intermediate user.
Please read the wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
before you get abused.....
Couple of pointers though, you might want to check your country is actually set to UK, rather than the default US.
When you install Black you wipe out the entire OS, the application files will be on the card, but the shortcuts in the OS that you find in the menu's and the programs directory will not. Search the card to see if there is actually anything on it at all.
You cant actually copy installed Apps with ActiveSync, it doesnt work that way, you can use it to re-install apps.
Most WM5 apps will work with WM6, but some will not and some will have odd behaviour because the programming interface isdiffeent to WM5.
But please, read the Wiki
Sorry, unable to help with the card issue.
But, the 24 hr clock & date is in settings, regional settings & set to english (uk).
The splash screen is explained in Mr Vanx upgrade guide, where it is explained re first & second screens.
Hope this helps & sorry if you have already completed or read the guides
Or, leave settings on US and choose (in Settings, System, Regional Settings):
Time: HH:mm:ss and you're on 24hr clock,
Date: dd-MMM-yy and you're on European date.
And if someone flames you for asking, screw that
Thanks very much. The ony things I need to do now is fix the wifi, it doesn't turn on..?
Also, the start bar sometimes hides....
and about the applications on the card. they are still there under "program files" and can be opened but some of them - registration fails. The shortcuts are not in the menu though...
Also how can I add a running programs shortcut on the bottom like I had on WM5..I can't seem to do it....
Sorry for sounding so dumb...
monz87 said:
Thanks very much. The ony things I need to do now is fix the wifi, it doesn't turn on..?
Also, the start bar sometimes hides....
and about the applications on the card. they are still there under "program files" and can be opened but some of them - registration fails. The shortcuts are not in the menu though...
Also how can I add a running programs shortcut on the bottom like I had on WM5..I can't seem to do it....
Sorry for sounding so dumb...
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Hmmm, there is a known issue with wifi settings getting wiped out, there are a couple of threads about it in Hermes upgrading, Olipro and pof are working on a fix that they say should be out in a few days.
Dont know about the start bar hiding, havent seen that myself, as for the apps, I would say maybe install them again to the same location to put all your shortcuts back, technically you will just be putting the same files on the storage card and any settings that went on the card should still be there.
I cant find a way to add running programs either, go into settings/memory/running programs or use the taskman program. If anyone else has seen a way to add running programs to the softkey setup I would be quite grateful too.
Its not about sounding dumb, you dont - you're just lacking the necessary info, its just if you ask questions that have been answered elsewhere people figure you are just being lazy or ignorant especially if they are the same kinds of questions that people keep on asking that can be answered by doing an advanced search and selecting show posts instead of show threads.
Just keep at it, you will get there in the end.
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Hmmm, there is a known issue with wifi settings getting wiped out, there are a couple of threads about it in Hermes upgrading, Olipro and pof are working on a fix that they say should be out in a few days.
Dont know about the start bar hiding, havent seen that myself, as for the apps, I would say maybe install them again to the same location to put all your shortcuts back, technically you will just be putting the same files on the storage card and any settings that went on the card should still be there.
I cant find a way to add running programs either, go into settings/memory/running programs or use the taskman program. If anyone else has seen a way to add running programs to the softkey setup I would be quite grateful too.
Its not about sounding dumb, you dont - you're just lacking the necessary info, its just if you ask questions that have been answered elsewhere people figure you are just being lazy or ignorant especially if they are the same kinds of questions that people keep on asking that can be answered by doing an advanced search and selecting show posts instead of show threads.
Just keep at it, you will get there in the end.
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Thanks. I upgraded my radio rom to 1.41 and my network mucked up...I couldnt even get a signal. Then I went to 1.40 and now my wifi is working and and i get a network. not sure if its as clear as before though...
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Thanks. I upgraded my radio rom to 1.41 and my network mucked up...I couldnt even get a signal. Then I went to 1.40 and now my wifi is working and and i get a network. not sure if its as clear as before though...
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Thats odd because the wifi and radio dont actually have anything to do with each other, radio rom controls GPRS/3G stuff. Oh well, go with it.....
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Thats odd because the wifi and radio dont actually have anything to do with each other, radio rom controls GPRS/3G stuff. Oh well, go with it.....
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Really..? That could be why my web pages weren't opening. I've just been on the phone to T-Mobile as it goes and they say that their 3G is down. I'm able to connect to GPRS but loading the web pages it just says opening and nothing opens. They said it should be OK in a few hours...oh well.
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Really..? That could be why my web pages weren't opening. I've just been on the phone to T-Mobile as it goes and they say that their 3G is down. I'm able to connect to GPRS but loading the web pages it just says opening and nothing opens. They said it should be OK in a few hours...oh well.
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You got through to a human at T-Mob before the problem was fixed......?
Now that is unusual.
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You got through to a human at T-Mob before the problem was fixed......?
Now that is unusual.
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LOL no that time my network problem was fixed because i had went to Radio 1.40 just web pages werent working. Then they called me back on my work phone to help me solve it anyways...
Recurring 8525 problem since upgrading to WM6 ROM (AT&T version). The phone will freeze completely (clock doesn't advance, screen and buttons and keyboard don't accept input, display freezes at on or off). When restarted by soft reset, the phone will frequently come back up with no GSM. When that happens, sometimes if I remove the battery and leave the phone off for a few hours then GSM will come back and will work for a while and then lock up again.
When it comes back with GSM service all of the network logon info for GPRS, my Wi-Fi networks with their auth info is gone.
Also email accounts are gone from the account picker and can't be re-created with the same names even though they have completely disappeared. I assume the settings are still in the registry but accounts just aren't showing. One account still shows on the Today screen, but isn't in the account picker.
A hard reset "fixes" things for a while. I've experimented with only installing a few of the most necessary 3rd party apps, without finding any "smoking gun" program that's causing problems. I've also re-seated the SIM card multiple times. I'm thinking it might be a hardware problem.
Today I flashed the radio to 1.54 and it has worked for a couple of hours without needing to be reset.
I'd be interested to hear what possible diagnostic paths I should look at before I call AT&T and begin the rigmarole required by tech support. Anyone with a very similar situation?
Thanks in advance.
I'm having the same problem. I was thinking of going to AT&T to get a new SIM, thinking that was the problem. Any solution yet?
-Pete
I started having the same problem with mine last week.
Sometimes it locks up, sometimes it gets stuck at the windows logo durring boot, always displays no gsm rom on boot.
Take a look at the how to unbrick thread. no gsm rom msg is one of the types of brick.
I installed hard spl ( already had it actually ). Flashed os, but it didn't help. Flashed GSM and no gsm msg went away. The phone is still acting strangely.
remember, just because the rom came from your carrier DOESNT mean that it doesnt have problems. Alot of people seem to have problems with upgraded rom versions from their carrier and end up either downgrading to previous rom or flashing cooked roms. try the previous rom or another cooked rom and see if that fixes the problem before blaming the hardware. It will save you a major headache trying to troubleshoot something that is working perfectly....
Please remember to do a bit of reading and hard spl your device before going off and bricking your Hermes. 10 minutes of reading might prevent hours, days or weeks of hair pulling, nail biting insanity to find the answer. Cheers.
hello people,
I have my SVP M3100, original from orange spain - but CID unlock to work with portuguese carrier, now I live and work in Hereford UK, and I use a sim from Three and other from Lebara the three sim is to have net on my pc and the lebara sim is to make low cost international call, and i switch many times the sim's to make calls and to have internet, now i have the same problem that you have, i try to upload the HTC original rom that have IPL. BOOTLOADER, SPLASH SCREENS EXTROM GSM, but lock at 12% I try upload ongly radio rom and the same a think that somekind of hardware problem caused by to many sims switch, if any body have one solution please tell me
Sometimes it locks up, sometimes it gets stuck at the windows logo durring boot, always displays no gsm rom on boot."
Same thing happened to me. Tried to reflash original ATT ROM , Radio Only, OS only. Gonna send it for the repair. Phone is not under warranty anymore hope that the price of repair will be less than price of new phone.
BTW, is there any way to remove Hard SPL from the phone?
how much was the price of repair?
Try changing you radio to a new one. i have had the same problems in the past with different radio roms and rom versions. so i am using radio 1.54.30.10 with pdavet roms and have had no isuue.
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how much was the price of repair?
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Got my phone back fixed. They charged me for shipping only $19
only $19!?
What if I don't have ATT anymore?
do you know?
i had the same issue check for my previous posts i think no GSM is a common error there is method flashing himalaya rom on hermes to erase GSM sector.
if you cant find the link PM me .
i hope it solves your problem.
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Recurring 8525 problem since upgrading to WM6 ROM (AT&T version). The phone will freeze completely (clock doesn't advance, screen and buttons and keyboard don't accept input, display freezes at on or off). When restarted by soft reset, the phone will frequently come back up with no GSM. When that happens, sometimes if I remove the battery and leave the phone off for a few hours then GSM will come back and will work for a while and then lock up again.
When it comes back with GSM service all of the network logon info for GPRS, my Wi-Fi networks with their auth info is gone.
Also email accounts are gone from the account picker and can't be re-created with the same names even though they have completely disappeared. I assume the settings are still in the registry but accounts just aren't showing. One account still shows on the Today screen, but isn't in the account picker.
A hard reset "fixes" things for a while. I've experimented with only installing a few of the most necessary 3rd party apps, without finding any "smoking gun" program that's causing problems. I've also re-seated the SIM card multiple times. I'm thinking it might be a hardware problem.
Today I flashed the radio to 1.54 and it has worked for a couple of hours without needing to be reset.
I'd be interested to hear what possible diagnostic paths I should look at before I call AT&T and begin the rigmarole required by tech support. Anyone with a very similar situation?
Thanks in advance.
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I've got exact the same symtoms. No GSM, network and auth settings gone, opera registration lost etc. It started a few days a go, in the beginning I had a working GSM most of the time, but it became less and less and now it doesn't have service at all anymore.
Currently device information shows:
ROM version: K's Rom v1.21
ROM date: 10/03/07
Radio version: NONE
Protocol version: NONE
Model No.: HERM300
IMEI: <empty>
Does anyone know a permanent solution?
I have the SAME PROBLEM!
I was about to get radio to work 3 days ago, and now the radio says none.
it's like the radio removed itself.
ok this doesn't make sense, I used the hima rom to remove the radio.
and now the radio is back! wtf?
Hm I tried everything but I can't seem to reflash the radio. About every version I try hangs at 0%. Sometimes when I flash from SD card it hangs at arount 10%.
Tried different SPL versions as well
Damn you radio!!!
BTW, I have no idea what they did to my phone there, but after returning from the AT&T Repair center the Call timer was zeroed and Device ID is now different from what it was before in Skyscape software
Any solutions yet? Im having the same issues.
The reason why Active Sync restarts
For many people the Workaround "not a hack or registry at all" does not work is because of a event based notification that runs the program anytime the time changes. Since your phone updates from the cell tower, it updates the time alot even if by mere seconds well this update runs activesync. Get yourself MemMaid
run it in advanced mode then Jump to Databases then select Notification Queue you will see a list of 3 types of Queues; Time Based, Classic Time Based, and Event based. Go to the event based queue, you should see at the end of this list 3 listing for repllog.exe with the active sync icon. Click on them individualy and read what shows up in the window below put a check mark next to the listing that describes the event as "apprunaftertimechange" it is normaly the last one on list
Also make sure there is no repllog.exe listed in any other queue for a time based event. Leave the other instances of repllog.exe since you still want your device to sync when its connected to the computer. Once you select all events that desribe running repllog.exe after a time change or at a certian time and date press the delete button.
This worked for me on my 8125 and the tilt and if i would of figured this out before i had ATT replace my 8525 i probably would of not got the tilt but lol they gave me tilt free cause all the problems i had with 8525.
let me know if this works for you guys that still see activesync running after the fake server WORKAROUND.
This should work
memmaid is not free but i think its free to try and if all you do with it is fix this problem then great or find a way to register it cause it does help has cool tricks and tweaks
Wow, still no real fixes for this problem, bummer
running memmaid work
running memmaid works and fixes the random start of activesync and once the random start of activesync is fixed the device will not lock up because of activesync this not to say if some other program you may have installed locking you up as well
Hi,
About two months ago during one of the numerous rom flashings on my SPVM3100 , I came across a strange issue. I called Orange many times and they changed my SIM card twice but finally said they don't understand this and gave it up. My SPVM3100 is over two years old - so they're not gonna replace the device.
Here's the issue:
whenever someone leaves me a voice mail, instead of receiving the normal "voice mail" notification and it's icon in Today screen, I receive a text message! These texts are unreadable (consisting of only 2 signs, like a triangle sign and an @ sign. Or an @ sign with an underline sign _).
Whenever I receive such texts , I know that I have a voice mail ! I dial the voice mail service, listen to the voice message and delete it. But each time my voice mail box becomes empty another annoying text is sent to me - perhaps cofirming that the mail box is now empty (I wish I could read this new sign language )
The phone shows that the texts are coming from the SIM Card !! (so we thought that perhaps the SIM has problems and that's why Orange changed my SIM Card twice).
This is really annoying.
The Orange tech people exhausted their knowledge for the past 2 months but couldn't solve this problem , gave it up altogether , and are now asking me to contact HTC ! (which I'm sure would be useless).
That's why I'm asking this from xda developers and gurus to see if they have any explanation for this bizarre behavior of my device.
Thanks for any insight and sorry to make a thread for this annoying issue.
have you tried flashing with a different rom? i know similar things would happen on motorola phones, and required hex editing of certain files to turn that feature off.
Read this thread
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Thanks man.
xda gurus are truly gifted
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Fallen,
A six-month-old critically annoying problem was solved in 30 seconds
I am sure we all know xda developers and gurus are genius.
As I said in the post, almost all technical guys & gals in Orange did literally exhaust all their knowledge & experience in the past six months to solve this issue but it was obvious that they didn't absolutely have any clue what the cause of the problem was; whereas Olipro had found the cause and the remedy very quickly.
This is really serious because Orange is a huge multi-billion corporation and they claim to have their own top developers/programmers/technicians and yet they shamelessly suck !
Now on to my second question :
On almost all original (HTC and AT&T) ROMs , the HTC Home Plugin shows the network as "Orange". But on some of the cooked ROMs the network is shown as "UMTS Orange". I know the meaning of UMTS and I understand that whether the network is shown as "Orange" or "UMTS Orange" the phone appears to function the same.
I just want to know what happens in some cooked ROMs that the phone recognizes the network of the SIM card as "UMTS Orange" and not the usual "Orange" ? I talked to some Orange technicians, their replies are really rediculous - one of them kept saying: "you must change your mobile settings" ! But she didn't have a clue what she was talking about as she didn't know where those damn "mobile settings" were and how they could be changed! I can swear she had never held an SPVM3100 or a Kaiser in her hand.
I've searched the forum but haven't been able to find a clear answer yet. I am asking this question just to improve my personal knowlege on this issue.
Thank you for your guidance and insight.
hey,
I get the same problem too when installing new Cooked ROMs.
In order to get rid of the 'UMTS' in front of the Operator name you have to edit a registry entry.
Use a registry editor and navigate to: HKLM---> Software---->OEM---->Phone Setting
In there find an entry labelled 'Enable3GLongName' And change it from 1 to 0.
Restart you're device and it should just say 'Orange'
Hope that works
Nesh
neshyd said:
hey,
I get the same problem too when installing new Cooked ROMs.
In order to get rid of the 'UMTS' in front of the Operator name you have to edit a registry entry.
Use a registry editor and navigate to: HKLM---> Software---->OEM---->Phone Setting
In there find an entry labelled 'Enable3GLongName' And change it from 1 to 0.
Restart you're device and it should just say 'Orange'
Hope that works
Nesh
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Thanks bro. Yesterday, before reading your reply I reflashed my device and
this nwe Binky11's V3.8 ROM got it right. So for now, I don't need to do the registery; however, I made a note of your advice for future reference.
I should keep reading to see what happens in most cooked WM6.1 ROMs that they get the network name as such and why the original ROMs get it right.
Thank you very much for your reply.
I've been reading myself silly trying to figure this out & my attempts at Searching haven't helped, probably because I'm not fluent enough to use the correct terms. In spite of having this device for several months, I've never learned as much as I'd like. Anyway . . .
I finally flashed the newest stock ROM from HTC several days ago. The process seemed to go fine with one exception: I keep getting a notification that I have a new Voicemail when I don't. I check -- no new Voicemail. I Dismiss, but the the notification keeps coming back periodically. Suggestions?
Other than that, things seemed to go smoothly, and I started slowly getting things back the way I like them. After reading & making sure I understood (or so I thought), I installed the .NET 3.5 Framework so I could use Crud Scraper to get rid of the stuff I clearly remembered using it for.
The .NET part went fine, and then I did the soft reset . . . and lost My Location on the Today screen that shows my weather. It now says I'm in Seattle, which I'm not -- I'm over a mountain range & about 350 miles east of Seattle. When I try to change the location, it doesn't find my town or anything in my area, for that matter..
The mysteriously (to me) reappearing Voicemail Notification is bad enough, but I really rely on the weather, particularly this time of year, and it's driving me crazy that I can't figure this out. Suggestions?
TIA
Did you try looking at the several threads on this ROM in the Rom Development forum? There's a fix in one of them for this problem.
For which problem? And, do you have any idea what thread?
And, yes, I did look in the thread I found (New ATT Tilt2 ROM) -- I believe I read every post before I flashed the latest ROM, even though much of it was over my head. That's where I learned that I had to install .NET 3.5 & reboot before CrudScraper would work.
I recall several people mentioning that the My Location worked flawlessly & how great it was having the location, and I read where one or two people seemed to be having the same weather problem I'm having, but I didn't see an answer. I read in one of the forums that there seems to be a bug (although not confined to the latest ROM) in certain parts of the world, and I read a thread where there seemed to by a problem with My Location in a cooked ROM that might or might not have been related to GPS not working. I read something else where My Location wouldn't work with 3G, only with Wi-Fi, so I tried that, even though My Location was working just fine after I flashed to the latest ROM -- that didn't help.
So, it's not like I'm asking because I hadn't already tried to find solutions myself. I'm not doubting that there are answers to both of my issues but rather that after spending several hours over the weekend trying to find the solutions, I've been miserably unsuccessful. Otherwise, I wouldn't have asked.
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For which problem? And, do you have any idea what thread?
And, yes, I did look in the thread I found (New ATT Tilt2 ROM) -- I believe I read every post before I flashed the latest ROM, even though much of it was over my head. That's where I learned that I had to install .NET 3.5 & reboot before CrudScraper would work.
I recall several people mentioning that the My Location worked flawlessly & how great it was having the location, and I read where one or two people seemed to be having the same weather problem I'm having, but I didn't see an answer. I read in one of the forums that there seems to be a bug (although not confined to the latest ROM) in certain parts of the world, and I read a thread where there seemed to by a problem with My Location in a cooked ROM that might or might not have been related to GPS not working. I read something else where My Location wouldn't work with 3G, only with Wi-Fi, so I tried that, even though My Location was working just fine after I flashed to the latest ROM -- that didn't help.
So, it's not like I'm asking because I hadn't already tried to find solutions myself. I'm not doubting that there are answers to both of my issues but rather that after spending several hours over the weekend trying to find the solutions, I've been miserably unsuccessful. Otherwise, I wouldn't have asked.
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For the My Location feature, only part of the service is understood. For the most part, the location is determined by the cell towers your device connects to. It depends on where you are as well as the signal strength. Sometimes the request is not sent or received to/from the tower(s). It is more accurate usually when 3G is turned off. The alternative is to add your city manually. If the location servers can't figure out where you are, then it won't work.
Normally the stock ROMs fix this and work wonderfully after flashing. The best solution to this is to turn off 3G to get a fix or find your city manually.
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For the My Location feature, only part of the service is understood. For the most part, the location is determined by the cell towers your device connects to. It depends on where you are as well as the signal strength. Sometimes the request is not sent or received to/from the tower(s). It is more accurate usually when 3G is turned off. The alternative is to add your city manually. If the location servers can't figure out where you are, then it won't work.
Normally the stock ROMs fix this and work wonderfully after flashing. The best solution to this is to turn off 3G to get a fix or find your city manually.
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I'm feeling really stupid here, but being a glutton for punishment, I'll keep trying.
Is it possible that maybe there was something wrong with the towers here that just happened to coincide with the soft reboot after installing .NET? The reason I ask is that My Location is now correct. Yay! That would be just my luck: bad timing.
Any suggestions about the incorrect Voice Mail notification? It for sure comes back each time I power up the phone. It seems to me it also reappears at other times, but I'm not positive about that -- I'm going to try to pay better attention.
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I'm feeling really stupid here, but being a glutton for punishment, I'll keep trying.
Is it possible that maybe there was something wrong with the towers here that just happened to coincide with the soft reboot after installing .NET? The reason I ask is that My Location is now correct. Yay! That would be just my luck: bad timing.
Any suggestions about the incorrect Voice Mail notification? It for sure comes back each time I power up the phone. It seems to me it also reappears at other times, but I'm not positive about that -- I'm going to try to pay better attention.
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Make sure to install .NET CF 3.5 to the device and not the storage card. You'll then need to restart, if it doesn't ask you to do so. You then need to force it to use 3.5 over 2.0. Use a registry editor and navigate to HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework. Change the DWORD data of entry 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0. Then change the DWORD data of entry 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 and then reset. This disables 2.0 and enables 3.5.
For a decent registry editor that can be used from the PC side, check out CERegEditor if you don't already have an editor of choice.
For the voicemail problem, there are two known solutions. You can either have someone call and leave you a voicemail. You would then check it and delete it. You can also simply call your provider and have them reset your voicemail account. Either one should work.
If neither of those options works for/appeals to you, you can give this a shot. There are no guarantees that it won't come back after a soft reset, though. Using a Registry editor, navigate to the following keys:
HKCU\System\State\Messages\vmail\Line1\Unread
HKCU\System\State\Messages\vmail\Line2\Unread
HKCU\System\State\Messages\vmail\Total\Unread
There should be a value name "Count" with a REG_DWORD value
Change value to 0 in decimal or 00 in Hex.
It should remove voicemail notification icon from the taskbar.
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Make sure to install .NET CF 3.5 to the device and not the storage card. You'll then need to restart, if it doesn't ask you to do so. You then need to force it to use 3.5 over 2.0. Use a registry editor and navigate to HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework. Change the DWORD data of entry 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0. Then change the DWORD data of entry 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 and then reset. This disables 2.0 and enables 3.5.
For a decent registry editor that can be used from the PC side, check out CERegEditor if you don't already have an editor of choice.
For the voicemail problem, there are two known solutions. You can either have someone call and leave you a voicemail. You would then check it and delete it. You can also simply call your provider and have them reset your voicemail account. Either one should work.
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Many thanks! For the Voicemail, I used method one, and it worked
And, thanks for the instructions (and the reg edit program suggestion) to force use of .NET CF 3.5 because I missed that part -- yikes.
I'm on a dedicated mission to cut down on the elecronics I have to carry around, so I need to learn more about the features of the Tilt2 because if I can just figure things out (which I've not forced myself to do), the Tilt2 will, I think, be able to replace my PDA & iPhone.
Anyway, thanks again for your help!
Hi
I have a problem with a Desire Z. Alot of times when I try to send a message (SMS) it takes forever (5min) before it gets sent. If I hit the home-button while watching/waiting for the message to be sent, it's put in drafts instead of keep trying to send.
It's also slow at recivieving messages. Tested with a couple of other phones and compared.
Does anyone else have a simular issue? The sim-card has been used for years with other phones without troubles.
Try using a different messaging app (i.e. handcent)
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have a problem with a Desire Z. Alot of times when I try to send a message (SMS) it takes forever (5min) before it gets sent. If I hit the home-button while watching/waiting for the message to be sent, it's put in drafts instead of keep trying to send.
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Same problem for me. Hoping the new OTA solve this problem.
Tap on "send", put the phone away, look at the phone after an hour, somethimes the sms is still "sending" !
I only get this if I have no or very bad signal, i.e. it will wait till it's got a signal to send it.
I wonder if it's worthwhile for you guys to do a factory reset or re-flash the ROM ?
Only thing I can think of is using the "delete old messages" function after deleting all your messages. other than that, I'd try wiping cache and dalvik cache (assuming you are rooted). Re-flashing the ROM should be a last resort (assuming that you even have a custom ROM installed).
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Thanks that's a good tip, I'll def try it and report back!
steviewevie said:
I only get this if I have no or very bad signal, i.e. it will wait till it's got a signal to send it.
I wonder if it's worthwhile for you guys to do a factory reset or re-flash the ROM ?
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This isn't relevant for my problem since it's always good strength + when I tested the slow recivieving the other phones was in the same room, with no problems
lordevol said:
Same problem for me. Hoping the new OTA solve this problem.
Tap on "send", put the phone away, look at the phone after an hour, somethimes the sms is still "sending" !
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Sorry but what does OTA stand for? If you're talking about the recent update, I sure do to!
Nissan350 said:
Only thing I can think of is using the "delete old messages" function after deleting all your messages. other than that, I'd try wiping cache and dalvik cache (assuming you are rooted). Re-flashing the ROM should be a last resort (assuming that you even have a custom ROM installed).
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So it's possible it's so slow at sending since it has alot of messages in the inbox? It might be the case, but even so it's lame if that's the reason, it's far more powerfull than just handling some textfiles
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Thanks for all your answers, will test'em out as soon as I can!
kjeksomanen said:
So it's possible it's so slow at sending since it has alot of messages in the inbox? It might be the case, but even so it's lame if that's the reason, it's far more powerfull than just handling some textfiles
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Haha I agree with you on that, mine has messages in it from weeks and weeks ago. the only reason i said that is because when I was with sprint, I had a HERO (i know, they arent even close to the same spec-wise) and it acted the same way your G2 is acting now. I fixed it by doing what I recommended. worth a try
A little nomenclature for you...
OTA - Over The Air update. It's an update that HTC or your service provider pushes to your phone when it does a check-in, if it is more current than the version your phone is running. Basically it's a software patch for the system software located in your phone.
Seeing that you don't know what an OTA is yet, I can deduce that a rooted phone definitely isn't your problem. I think you should check your phone for updates (Settings -> About phone -> System updates -> Check for updates) and see if anything pops up after you hit okay.
If you find an OTA and the problem still persists, you may find a new SIM card would be an ideal option. Let me explain myself here:
When Cingular made the switch to AT&T I was still using a Cingular labeled SIM card. It worked fine until AT&T switched to 3G. When I got a 3G phone, I found that I couldn't get 3G no matter what I tried, because for some reason the SIM spec didn't support 3G. So I had to switch my SIM to get 3G. I've found that with each new spec that comes out, often times the best way to go is just to switch the SIM out each time you get a new phone. Might take a few minutes longer getting your contract up, but new SIMs seem to be sent out to our store (which is a AT&T/T-Mobile vendor) every time a new network spec is introduced by the carriers. I'm not entirely convinced that this is just a strange "coincidence".
deliberate187 said:
A little nomenclature for you...
OTA - Over The Air update. It's an update that HTC or your service provider pushes to your phone when it does a check-in, if it is more current than the version your phone is running. Basically it's a software patch for the system software located in your phone.
Seeing that you don't know what an OTA is yet, I can deduce that a rooted phone definitely isn't your problem. I think you should check your phone for updates (Settings -> About phone -> System updates -> Check for updates) and see if anything pops up after you hit okay.
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Hehe thank you, but I do indeed know what rooting is etc., but the phone we're talking about isn't rooted so it's not the problem.
Just because I haven't bumped into the word OTA doesn't mean I don't know how the updatesystem from HTC works
And yes, it's the latest version, just got a update ticking in, dunno if it fixed the problem yet.
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If you find an OTA and the problem still persists, you may find a new SIM card would be an ideal option. Let me explain myself here:
When Cingular made the switch to AT&T I was still using a Cingular labeled SIM card. It worked fine until AT&T switched to 3G. When I got a 3G phone, I found that I couldn't get 3G no matter what I tried, because for some reason the SIM spec didn't support 3G. So I had to switch my SIM to get 3G. I've found that with each new spec that comes out, often times the best way to go is just to switch the SIM out each time you get a new phone. Might take a few minutes longer getting your contract up, but new SIMs seem to be sent out to our store (which is a AT&T/T-Mobile vendor) every time a new network spec is introduced by the carriers. I'm not entirely convinced that this is just a strange "coincidence".
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Thank for your tip, I'll check it out although the sim was used on another phone which also supported 3G afaik.
kjeksomanen said:
just got a update ticking in, dunno if it fixed the problem yet.
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The recent update solved the problem (for my Desire z),
it was an HTC bug
Sorry for the late answer, but one day the mobile just decided to empty it's inbox for whatever unknown reason, and well, that solved the problem.
But thanks for all the answers, once again
the htc sense messaging app is horrible. the dates and times are wrong and it is like a pig. openeing, sending, reading are all slow.
install the vanilla android messaging app as shown here then you dont have to install third party
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846231&page=12