Develop Bugs

Building a kick-ass community

Hello proud SGS-owners!
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I've been lurking around the xda forums since I got my first Android phone (Hero). Now that I've gotten myself an SGS I've "moved" from the Hero forums to the SGS forums. My first impression was that the SGS forum community is far behind that of the Hero community, which is understandable considering that SGS is a much newer phone and doesn't have as many users (yet).
I never felt that I had anything to contribute to the Hero community because it was already flourishing when I came there. I'd like to help the SGS community to move forward and reach that same level, and hopefully beyond. The SGS have the potential to be the real (iPhone?!) kick-ass phone we've all been waiting for, so why not have a kick-ass community?
It took me hours, scouring the threads, to learn how to safely flash and root my phone, but it was well worth it. The problem is, most people don't have the same patience or time to do so. So, for starters. How about we combine our shared knowledge and put up a post that will hold all the necessary info on all current FWs, basic info on how you flash, root, what odin is, how-to's and not-to-do's, and so forth.
All of this can and should also be put in the wiki, but I believe we also need a thread for it here or many people will miss out on the info. Perhaps something in between, the best of two worlds? Right now the SGS wiki is really lacking...
Any ideas or opinions? I'm all ears and open for discussion
To the mods: You can move this thread to general if you think it's out of context. However, this is first and foremost targeted at the dev-community so I think it should be left here.
Best regards,
Marcus

mekwall said:
Hello proud SGS-owners!
(Beware, wall-of-text)
I've been lurking around the xda forums since I got my first Android phone (Hero). Now that I've gotten myself an SGS I've "moved" from the Hero forums to the SGS forums. My first impression was that the SGS forum community is far behind that of the Hero community, which is understandable considering that SGS is a much newer phone and doesn't have as many users (yet).
I never felt that I had anything to contribute to the Hero community because it was already flourishing when I came there. I'd like to help the SGS community to move forward and reach that same level, and hopefully beyond. The SGS have the potential to be the real (iPhone?!) kick-ass phone we've all been waiting for, so why not have a kick-ass community?
It took me hours, scouring the threads, to learn how to safely flash and root my phone, but it was well worth it. The problem is, most people don't have the same patience or time to do so. So, for starters. How about we combine our shared knowledge and put up a post that will hold all the necessary info on all current FWs, basic info on how you flash, root, what odin is, how-to's and not-to-do's, and so forth.
All of this can and should also be put in the wiki, but I believe we also need a thread for it here or many people will miss out on the info. Perhaps something in between, the best of two worlds? Right now the SGS wiki is really lacking...
Any ideas or opinions? I'm all ears and open for discussion
To the mods: You can move this thread to general if you think it's out of context. However, this is first and foremost targeted at the dev-community so I think it should be left here.
Best regards,
Marcus
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Great idea to collect as many information as possible. But there's a already a thread for this: the big faq thread.
I like your intiative though. And yes, it would be very nice to have an updated wiki.
BTW, for the general section it would be nice to have a sticky tips and tricks thread, like the one tboy2000 created for the HTC HD2. We need someone though that will maintain that post.

appelflap said:
Great idea to collect as many information as possible. But there's a already a thread for this: the big faq thread.
I like your intiative though. And yes, it would be very nice to have an updated wiki.
BTW, for the general section it would be nice to have a sticky tips and tricks thread, like the one tboy2000 created for the HTC HD2. We need someone though that will maintain that post.
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Shame on me. How on earth did I miss that thread?!
Do you know if you can you let other people edit the original post in some way? That would help alot

mekwall said:
Shame on me. How on earth did I miss that thread?!
Do you know if you can you let other people edit the original post in some way? That would help alot
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I surely does ... But i don't believe it can be done.
BTW that would be a nice tip for XDA-dev forum developers: create an option to let multiple (selected?) users colaborate and edit one opening post. But then again, that would be almost be the same functionality as a wiki

I agree with the op, the faq thread is good but this forum could really use a 'getting started' thread for people that just got their phone. And it should be in the general forum instead of development.

Possabilities of 3.70.651.1

Can we make one thread of all the mods to the stock 3.70.651.1 ? I would like to try my hand at making a kick ass rom but it seems that with all the updates and leaks and ports, Half the time of building it will be figuring out what will work. Please give credit to the DEV that created the mod. I'll try to keep this post updated at the top if this turn out to be a good idea. If you don't think its a good idea please tell me in a PM. No need in cluttering this thread up.

yamaford said:
Can we make one thread of all the mods to the stock 3.70.651.1 ? I would like to try my hand at making a kick ass rom but it seems that with all the updates and leaks and ports, Half the time of building it will be figuring out what will work. Please give credit to the DEV that created the mod. I'll try to keep this post updated at the top if this turn out to be a good idea. If you don't think its a good idea please tell me in a PM. No need in cluttering this thread up.
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Shouldn't this be in themes and apps? It's Possibilities.

MikeC84 said:
Shouldn't this be in themes and apps? It's Possibilities.
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Does this look like a theme or app? Its the development of a ROM development is a process right? The forum title isn't called "finished ROM's go here".

yamaford said:
Does this look like a theme or app? Its the development of a ROM development is a process right? The forum title isn't called "finished ROM's go here".
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honestly if you need help locating all the things that are "broke" because "Half the time of building [your rom] will be figuring out what will work," it's not a development of a rom at all.. it's just "thinking" about it. probably more suited for q/a or general
you basically want people to do half your work, which you haven't even started yet

yamaford said:
Can we make one thread of all the mods to the stock 3.70.651.1 ? I would like to try my hand at making a kick ass rom but it seems that with all the updates and leaks and ports, Half the time of building it will be figuring out what will work. Please give credit to the DEV that created the mod. I'll try to keep this post updated at the top if this turn out to be a good idea. If you don't think its a good idea please tell me in a PM. No need in cluttering this thread up.
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We don't really know what you're trying to do...but my question would be why do you need a thread with all the mods and roms and whatever for 3.70, when you could just find them yourself...Not trying to hate, but I'm just saying...

WOW first 3 post all about how its a bad idea. no wonder this place is so dis organized. **** IT!
All I wanted was one thread with all the mods that are built on the 3.70 build. Is there one organized thread like this? NO. Why do yall give everybody such a hard time everytime someone comes up with an idea? If a dev (I"M no DEV) wanted to build a kick ass rom, wouldn't it be nice to have one thread to goto to get the different pieces? Wouldn't it be nice to have a stock ROM to start with and mod it like you want to without having to flash a ROM that may not have everything you wish for or has stuff you dont like?
Want animations? flash this? Want this cool rosie? flash this?....
We did this with the moment and I loved it.
I'm not going to build the Rom, I was just going to maintain the thread by keeping the stuff at the top.

wrong section

The point is, if you want to create a thread to do this, create a thread to do this, not a thread asking people to do this for you. That is why people are being uppity about it.
And yeah, something like this should go into the Themes/Apps or General section. It'll get lost in here.
As far as the thread, I'd definitely like to see something like this come out. It'd be really handy. Once you start the list, like-minded people will be drawn in and will definitely help you out!

yamaford said:
Want animations? flash this? Want this cool rosie? flash this?....
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sure sounds like themes to me...

|Jason8| said:
The point is, if you want to create a thread to do this, create a thread to do this, not a thread asking people to do this for you. That is why people are being uppity about it.
And yeah, something like this should go into the Themes/Apps or General section. It'll get lost in here.
As far as the thread, I'd definitely like to see something like this come out. It'd be really handy. Once you start the list, like-minded people will be drawn in and will definitely help you out!
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Thanks Jason, Tell ya what. I don't think that themes and apps has anything to do with it but I'll give your idea a shot. Judging by the people that have posted so far I'll probably get the same response. Hope I can be proven wrong. By the way,,, for all the wrong forum post,,, Im pretty sure i said PM me and my inbox is empty. kettle meet pot.

I do agree with people being a little uptight about everything and flaming any person they possibly can. I do see what you are trying to do. I had an experience with a ROM made by someone in the g1 thread like a year ago, it was a stock ROM with a modded spare parts to install the mods you want and only the ones you want. but what you are saying is a good idea. Like in other forums they are calling it a directory with everything all in one place, for example http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
edit: maybe people are like this because of their learning experience when they got started? they got flamed for asking a noob question so now any time people ask the same question they do it? I think this is the main reason people are staying away from XDA or simply not saying thanks or anything at all. XDA is an awesome place to get info but defiantly not the place to ask for help or get an answer to a question.

Cooking/Building My First rom for EVO, HELP

Hello XDA Community, i am building my first rom and started looking for some kind of guide. But i have failed only to find guides for other devices, so it seems ill be on my own(exception of XDA Community).
So a nice rundown or guide or even PM me
Here are some questions that i have
1.What is lOPl that is after their member status, what does it stand for?
2.what linux is reccomended
3.what tools are needed
sorry if i put this in wrong thread.

SmartB0y said:
Hello XDA Community, i am building my first rom and started looking for some kind of guide. But i have failed only to find guides for other devices, so it seems ill be on my own(exception of XDA Community).
So a nice rundown or guide or even PM me
Here are some questions that i have
1.What is lOPl that is after their member status, what does it stand for?
2.what linux is reccomended
3.what tools are needed
sorry if i put this in wrong thread.
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So knowing those three things is going to make you a dev?
1. http://bit.ly/dGelUt
2. http://bit.ly/fWKXcB
3. http://bit.ly/eTznEb
All of which a google search would have helped you out. This is development section so I understand why you posted this here. But I think you should take a step back since given those three questions could have been found out on your own, shows you have no self motivation yet. Development is a community effort I agree, but there isn't much hand holding. Posting this only showed that your looking for someone to do it for you. That isn't the way to go.

Op= original poster. The other questions I will leave for the true devs
Sent from my Evolution

OP: person who started thread.
Linux distro: not necessary, but many like Ubuntu (I have used Red Hat for a long time)
Tools: Download a kitchen if you just want to build roms, otherwise ask specific questions on what it is you are looking to do and usually someone here can either get you what you want.....or at least point you in the right direction.
And yes, this should have been posted in Q&A
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lithid-cm said:
So knowing those three things is going to make you a dev?
1. http://bit.ly/dGelUt
2. http://bit.ly/fWKXcB
3. http://bit.ly/eTznEb
All of which a google search would have helped you out. This is development section so I understand why you posted this here. But I think you should take a step back since given those three questions could have been found out on your own, shows you have no self motivation yet. Development is a community effort I agree, but there isn't much hand holding. Posting this only showed that your looking for someone to do it for you. That isn't the way to go.[/QUOTE
Jesus dude, he was just asking for some advice not to be slammed into the ground by calling him lazy "not motivated" give him a break and take a pill.
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corybucher said:
Jesus dude, he was just asking for some advice not to be slammed into the ground by calling him lazy "not motivated" give him a break and take a pill.
Sent from my Evolution
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Then maybe he will next time direct his "lazy" questions to the Q&A. Sorry I'm a blunt person. If you want you can look through the 3000 pages on the compile GB thread I posted and look at the tons of advice I give. You can also see me tell people the truth, some people don't like it. Some people get it, understand what I am telling them, and better themselves.
PS. I did answer his questions.

Building my first Rom
lithid-cm said:
So knowing those three things is going to make you a dev?
1. http://bit.ly/dGelUt
2. http://bit.ly/fWKXcB
3. http://bit.ly/eTznEb
All of which a google search would have helped you out. This is development section so I understand why you posted this here. But I think you should take a step back since given those three questions could have been found out on your own, shows you have no self motivation yet. Development is a community effort I agree, but there isn't much hand holding. Posting this only showed that your looking for someone to do it for you. That isn't the way to go.
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no, i know it wont make me a dev, but it will get me some dirt knowledge of somethings. Now that i have that i can go dig up on all the rest of this. I do agrree that no hand holding is required, but i am goiing to need a push off that swing. i know this is not a weekend thing, but i thank you for giving me a stick to dig.

SmartB0y said:
no, i know it wont make me a dev, but it will get me some dirt knowledge of somethings. Now that i have that i can go dig up on all the rest of this. I do agrree that no hand holding is required, but i am goiing to need a push off that swing. i know this is not a weekend thing, but i thank you for giving me a stick to stand on.
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Your welcome. Good luck. If you need assistance on compiling or understanding that process checkout my thread and/or PM me.

lithid-cm said:
Then maybe he will next time direct his "lazy" questions to the Q&A. Sorry I'm a blunt person. If you want you can look through the 3000 pages on the compile GB thread I posted and look at the tons of advice I give. You can also see me tell people the truth, some people don't like it. Some people get it, understand what I am telling them, and better themselves.
PS. I did answer his questions.
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Just the way u come off sounding like an a-hole. Im sure there was a time when you may have asked a question like this? Trying not to hate on anyone but when someone gets attacked with out reason just puts a bad taste in my mouth. All good my brotha just being "Blunt"
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corybucher said:
Just the way u come off sounding like an a-hole. Im sure there was a time when you may have asked a question like this? Trying not to hate on anyone but when someone gets attacked with out reason just puts a bad taste in my mouth. All good my brotha just being "Blunt"
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If you have a bad taste in your mouth then your should probably brush your teeth. Then move on. Even the OP understood. Have a great weekend.

Brushed my teeth this morning but thanks for the advice. Seems you always need that last little word in there somewhere which is fine because not offense taken by your comments. Just defending a fellow geekdroider like myself from the devs that think their crap don't stink. Jump off your high horse and work on you rom creations because I don't use em anyway. Thanks buddy have a great weekend and happy droiding.
Sent from my Evolution

Lol to up above but I understand where both of you are coming from. OP I wouldn't mind assisting.you if you need some help also. I just made my first rom two days ago took a month but the people on here a very helpful even if they are blunt lol I think they give the best help because they make you.think.about if you seriously want to become a dev the nice ones are also great help I don't think.the community would be as strong.if we didn't have blunt people that the nice people get into it with. They kinda go hand and hand lol they give helpful info when arguing and not even realize.
Swyped From My Rom But I Will Always Be A Mynion!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6738713&postcount=1
good luck.

what does a kernel actually do for your phone?

I see people using different kernels with different roms. Why so many kernels and whats their use?

Kernels basically run the back end of your phone. A lot of people make different/ update the kernels because they find a different way to improve battery life and make the phone run smoother and faster. Also, SBC kernels implement trickle charging which makes it so your phone is at or near a 100% when you take it off the charger

This question belongs in the Q&A section, not in the development section.

it posts in the correct section for starters....or does some research as this question has been asked a million times already

Looks like XDA needs to make a 20 post min now.

This is going to by my new trademark...
ROM Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Oh, and please post your new kernel that you must be developing. I must have missed that somewhere in the OP.

-viperboy- said:
This is going to by my new trademark...
ROM Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Oh, and please post your new kernel that you must be developing. I must have missed that somewhere in the OP.
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Better late than never, I suppose Quoting because I like Big Red chewing gum.

Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didnt know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.

bostonsbrash2 said:
Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didn't know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.
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This made me LMAO!!! All that had to be said was, "Hey this is the wrong section, do a search in the Q&A forum and if you can't find it let people know you aren't having any luck with searching and someone should be able to point you in the right direction." Instead you get "**** OFF FNG!!!!" Good reason to stay apart of XDA huh. But of course everyone is a hard ass on the internet, duh.

bostonsbrash2 said:
Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didnt know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.
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There are many forum police. You can either abide by their law or be stoned.

bostonsbrash2 said:
Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didnt know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.
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Wow, you got us. To stick with your lunch table metaphor, imagine this subforum as a lunch table in a cafeteria. You and your friends are enjoying a nice conversation when out of nowhere 500 people run to your table and start vomiting all over it.
This subforum is set up so that they don't need to sticky legitimate development threads. Instead, they created other subforums for questions like these.
Yeah, it looks kind of bad when ten people run in going "wrong forum! wrong forum!," but they're trying to help in whatever way they can since this forum doesn't have a downvoting system.

theoottesen said:
This made me LMAO!!! All that had to be said was, "Hey this is the wrong section, do a search in the Q&A forum and if you can't find it let people know you aren't having any luck with searching and someone should be able to point you in the right direction." Instead you get "**** OFF FNG!!!!" Good reason to stay apart of XDA huh. But of course everyone is a hard ass on the internet, duh.
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Your skill in 'White Knight' increases by 0.3.
Level up! You are now 'White Knight' Level 02.

One more reason people dont come to XDA anymore..... good job the the seasoned "grumps" who at one point asked questions as well. You guys have forgotten what the forums are all about and why your here.... FAIL.

Nutzy said:
One more reason people dont come to XDA anymore..... good job the the seasoned "grumps" who at one point asked questions as well. You guys have forgotten what the forums are all about and why your here.... FAIL.
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Rule number 1
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.

agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
there's ALWAYS new thread's by someone that doesnt search, whether new to forums in general or just didnt take the time to search.. steer them in the right direction rather than away from the forums...

klubhead said:
agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
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well if he had to ask what a kernel is and what it does then at least we know if he doesn't come back the Development section won't be losing a great asset lol

theoottesen said:
This made me LMAO!!! All that had to be said was, "Hey this is the wrong section, do a search in the Q&A forum and if you can't find it let people know you aren't having any luck with searching and someone should be able to point you in the right direction." Instead you get "**** OFF FNG!!!!" Good reason to stay apart of XDA huh. But of course everyone is a hard ass on the internet, duh.
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This is my theory... maybe this will scare and annoy people enough that they will actually think twice and possibly search before posting in the wrong section. They should be scared to come in here and start a thread about a non-development topic.
Saturn2K said:
Wow, you got us. To stick with your lunch table metaphor, imagine this subforum as a lunch table in a cafeteria. You and your friends are enjoying a nice conversation when out of nowhere 500 people run to your table and start vomiting all over it.
This subforum is set up so that they don't need to sticky legitimate development threads. Instead, they created other subforums for questions like these.
Yeah, it looks kind of bad when ten people run in going "wrong forum! wrong forum!," but they're trying to help in whatever way they can since this forum doesn't have a downvoting system.
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LMAO!!! +609783469078409 on this post, sir!
Comrade P said:
Rule number 1
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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QFT
klubhead said:
agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
there's ALWAYS new thread's by someone that doesnt search, whether new to forums in general or just didnt take the time to search.. steer them in the right direction rather than away from the forums...
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My post actually clarified what this section was for. I think it should be clear enough where NOT to post topics like this. I think it was helpful
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well if he had to ask what a kernel is and what it does then at least we know if he doesn't come back the Development section won't be losing a great asset lol
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Exactly.

klubhead said:
agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
there's ALWAYS new thread's by someone that doesnt search, whether new to forums in general or just didnt take the time to search.. steer them in the right direction rather than away from the forums...
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Spoken like a true White Knight. +1 to your Divine powers.

jeebuz.....
Way off topic, lock the thread already...

If it were one person, people probably wouldn't jump all over you, but its multiple threads daily, so people are a little less patient.
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Building my own ROM from AOSP

Hey all,
Just curious - are there any tutorials anywhere that walk you through building your own ROM for the EVO from the AOSP project? I'd like to get into building my own so that I don't have to rely on other's updates, etc.
Thanks!
Ricky

**CLICK HERE** for the search feature

Concordium said:
**CLICK HERE** for the search feature
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Seriously? Does everyone need to include the line, "I've already tried searching." in the original post so that an absolutely unnecessary and obvious answer isn't the first one posted? If so, then..
I've already tried searching.
I continue to come up with bull**** posts about building AOSP for other phones. I've searched all morning and haven't come up with anything, hence, the creation of the thread. Thanks for attempting to be a smartass, though.

UndeadCircus said:
Seriously? Does everyone need to include the line, "I've already tried searching." in the original post so that an absolutely unnecessary and obvious answer isn't the first one posted? If so, then..
I've already tried searching.
I continue to come up with bull**** posts about building AOSP for other phones. I've searched all morning and haven't come up with anything, hence, the creation of the thread. Thanks for attempting to be a smartass, though.
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Actually yes, it would help that we know you've already searched. Forgive me for seeing that the vast majority of people who post questions do so without searching and not knowing that you, miraculously, were not amongst said majority. Thanks for succeeding at being an ungrateful prick.
And just an FYI, seeing as how you apparently have no experience on the topic, at least that's what your poorly specified post implied, you would be able to learn a lot about the process of creating your own ROM from the search results I posted. Just because it doesn't say "HTC Evo" on it doesn't mean there is no experience or wisdom to be gained from it. Try doing what the rest of us do. Read what resources are available and then start experimenting with it until you can find someone who can give more specific direction. There will be difference between phones but you can still get the basis for working with Android based systems. Otherwise, we'll be seeing another thread like this from you when you get a new phone. I tried to help as best I could. I'm sorry it wasn't to your satisfaction.

Concordium said:
Actually yes, it would help that we know you've already searched. Forgive me for seeing that the vast majority of people who post questions do so without searching and not knowing that you, miraculously, were not amongst said majority. Thanks for succeeding at being an ungrateful prick.
And just an FYI, seeing as how you apparently have no experience on the topic, at least that's what your poorly specified post implied, you would be able to learn a lot about the process of creating your own ROM from the search results I posted. Just because it doesn't say "HTC Evo" on it doesn't mean there is no experience or wisdom to be gained from it. Try doing what the rest of us do. Read what resources are available and then start experimenting with it until you can find someone who can give more specific direction. There will be difference between phones but you can still get the basis for working with Android based systems. Otherwise, we'll be seeing another thread like this from you when you get a new phone. I tried to help as best I could. I'm sorry it wasn't to your satisfaction.
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It was actually far from being satisfactory. Forgive me, but why in the holy hell would I learn to develop for a phone that I don't have? Honestly. Once the source is built and created, what am I going to do with said source? Not a damn thing. I have no phone to install it to. Building for a phone that I own would be more help to me then building for a phone that I do not own.
Maybe if most of the people around here took a second to actually help someone, there wouldn't be a problem with the vast majority of smart asses replying with a search link. Don't try and convince yourself that you're being helpful and expect me to say "thank you." You're far from it.

Search for dsixda rom kitchen. That will help you get started.
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The guy was trying to help you. You are stupid man sorry but people like you desrve ****. He was giving you a link, you should ve said thank you for that. With your attitude the only thing you'll get is F..
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UndeadCircus said:
It was actually far from being satisfactory. Forgive me, but why in the holy hell would I learn to develop for a phone that I don't have? Honestly. Once the source is built and created, what am I going to do with said source? Not a damn thing. I have no phone to install it to. Building for a phone that I own would be more help to me then building for a phone that I do not own.
Maybe if most of the people around here took a second to actually help someone, there wouldn't be a problem with the vast majority of smart asses replying with a search link. Don't try and convince yourself that you're being helpful and expect me to say "thank you." You're far from it.
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You're right. All Android phones run on the Linux based Android operating system. So what on earth could you possibly learn from a thread about a phone that uses the same operating system? Like I said, the phones each have some differences but the overall basis of how the system works is the same. So yes, the threads I posted are helpful. They contain enough information to get you started in the right direction until you can find information that reviews the specific differences that you can then apply to the Evo. If you could get over yourself for a minute or two in order to open your mind you'd be able to realize that. You're the one that came here with questions. Seems kind of naive to pick and choose which answer you want to hear and then whine about the ones you don't understand.
Either way, I gave you something helpful. It's up to you whether or not you choose to use it. Best of luck to you.
Edit: People on this site, myself included, do nothing but help each other. If you can't see that then the problem is not with this site. The problem is with you.

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Concordium said:
**CLICK HERE** for the search feature
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I have been wondering this same question as I pondered to develop my own ROM, this link was actually helpful. Sometimes people overlook things and its helpful to get a second opinion, which is why I believe this entire Q&A thread exists. So it is puzzling to me why would come here to get a second opinion and then ***** out the first person to try to help.
I just can't understand why you ask for help and then criticize help... And this is why XDA needs a "Negative Thanks" button.

Cherokee4Life said:
I have been wondering this same question as I pondered to develop my own ROM, this link was actually helpful. Sometimes people overlook things and its helpful to get a second opinion, which is why I believe this entire Q&A thread exists. So it is puzzling to me why would come here to get a second opinion and then ***** out the first person to try to help.
I just can't understand why you ask for help and then criticize help... And this is why XDA needs a "Negative Thanks" button.
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The only problem with a negative thanks button is that people like UndeadCircus would be pressing negative thanks all the time because they didn't like, or don't understand, the answer they were given. People are a lot more willing to toss out negativity than they are optimism and gratitude. In the end I see it like this; My responsibility here is to help others to the best of my ability. People can either be open minded to the help given here and see all the opportunities laid before them or they can remain closed minded and in the end not gain as much knowledge as they otherwise would have. Either way, I've done my job and the decision on whether or not to take advantage of it is on them.

@OP
There are two threads in evo development about your question.
The author is lithid-cm.
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