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Is there any difference between cm7/stock hboot?
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orsidoc said:
Is there any difference between cm7/stock hboot?
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if i flash a rom that says cm7 hboot does it implies that it changes my hboot?currently i am on stock hboot....thanks in advance
orsidoc said:
if i flash a rom that says cm7 hboot does it implies that it changes my hboot?currently i am on stock hboot....thanks in advance
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That means the ROM is designed to run with the CM7 hboot - the hboot is a separate thing you may want to flash.
Note that you don't have to do this - ROMs will work fine with the stock hboot, but the custom one will give you more space for apps in the /data partition.
Some roms works only with custom Hboot like CM7 Hboot or Oxygen Hboot, if the rom doesn't need CM7 Hboot stay with stock Hboot
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orsidoc said:
if i flash a rom that says cm7 hboot does it implies that it changes my hboot?currently i am on stock hboot....thanks in advance
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What's the rom in question?
Fr_78: not quite. As stated above you if you are running stock hboot you will be able to use cm7 roms as well.
The difference is in the partition layout, and as the cm7 hboot has a smaller system partition you won't be able to run a sense rom with it. However you will be able to do it the other way around(cm7 rom on std hboot), as there will just be loads of free(and unusable) space on the system partition.
Have been wondering this myself... I am using baadnewz's GS 2.1 ROMs lately in A2SD+... I have been wanting to switch to the CM7 version due it being apparently faster and lighter on internal memory. Have not got around to flashing CM7 HBoot yet, but if I run on stock HBoot, will I still see the advantages in speed and memory??
PS, I am not S-Off yet, either...that was to be part of the CM7 HBoot procedure...
If it's space you want for apps, try using StarBurst or SuperNova ROM, which both use Data2SD. LeeDroid, MIUI also support Data2SD (but you'll need to flash the A2SD killer first, then install Data2SD afterwards). No need to flash custom HBoot, IMO.
It's the one from Robocik rcmix1.0 but with cm i have memory problems but they say its faster...dunno what to do..
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Fr_78: not quite. As stated above you if you are running stock hboot you will be able to use cm7 roms as well.
The difference is in the partition layout, and as the cm7 hboot has a smaller system partition you won't be able to run a sense rom with it. However you will be able to do it the other way around(cm7 rom on std hboot), as there will just be loads of free(and unusable) space on the system partition.
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Yes I know, I was not saying that, I say that some roms works only with CM7 Hboot currently RCMix S 1.0
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777ace said:
Have been wondering this myself... I am using baadnewz's GS 2.1 ROMs lately in A2SD+... I have been wanting to switch to the CM7 version due it being apparently faster and lighter on internal memory. Have not got around to flashing CM7 HBoot yet, but if I run on stock HBoot, will I still see the advantages in speed and memory??
PS, I am not S-Off yet, either...that was to be part of the CM7 HBoot procedure...
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The rom sits in the /system partition, and all of that partition is ringfenced according to your partition table, so it can't be used for other things. So even if the rom is smaller, unless you change the hboot, you don't get more free internal memory (/data partition).
how can i have both of them?cm7 and stock?
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The rom sits in the /system partition, and all of that partition is ringfenced according to your partition table, so it can't be used for other things. So even if the rom is smaller, unless you change the hboot, you don't get more free internal memory (/data partition).
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This is what I thought. Cool, thanks for clearing that up
orsidoc said:
how can i have both of them?cm7 and stock?
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You can only have one!
stringer7 said:
You can only have one!
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In fact you may have 2. Just download the appropriate pb99img.zip and put them in SD , with the roms you want to use (one for each partition table). So each time you want to change, just rename it and boot into hboot, then flash the other ROM and voila!
Havent actually tested, but in theory it should work
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dexter93 said:
In fact you may have 2. Just download the appropriate pb99img.zip and put them in SD , with the roms you want to use (one for each partition table). So each time you want to change, just rename it and boot into hboot, then flash the other ROM and voila!
Havent actually tested, but in theory it should work
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I look forward to your results!
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I look forward to your results!
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I don't think that I am ever going to try... See there is not much space on my SD to have two .zip of full roms ready to be installed, 2 different pb99img.zip and 2 full nandroid backups. Not to talk about titanium backups and my explorer
It is just too much complicated to do all that , just to say that you "dual boot" two different hboot roms...
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dexter93 said:
toocomplicated to do all that , just to say that you "dual boot" two different hboot roms...
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Agreed, technically possible but not practical!
Hi everyone !
I have just discovered today the insertCoin Rom and I'd like to git a try on my HTC Desire ! However I have few questions and doubt to clear out before doing anything I might regret
- It has come to my understanding that I should have a 1.0 gb ext partition on the SD card, is it okay if my sD card has an ext partition with more than one gigabyte !?
- I also think I should have a specific hboot (I am not even sure if I have the same understanding of hboot as the rest of you ), When i start my phone into hboot mode it says it is the 0.93 hboot version and when i go into the recovery it gives the ClockWorkmod Recovery v2.5.0.7 (my phone is rooted using unrevoked). so is my hboot okay or do I need to do something else before flashing the rom ??
- Is there anything else I need to check before flashing the rom ??
Sorry i U find my questions stupid but if been reading threads and documentations for 2 days and i'm afraid I might have understood soemthing in a wrong way ! Thank you all
For your ext partition its ok if you go over, but do not make it any more than 2gb. Your hboot sounds like stock to me, unless you have gone s-off and changed it. Just check the rom thread and see what type you need.. For example stock or CM7 or CM7r2. You might have already stumbled across it, but just in case you haven't, check this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
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Thank you for your answer !
Now my phone is S-Off and I have CWM v.2.5.1.8 ! Am I good to go ?? I have downloaded "InsertCoin Sense 2.1 CM7 1.1.3", can I install it now ??
Dude, just use the search.
I'd you have read the rom thread and met the requirements for that particular rom then yes you can flash it.
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hi guys!!
im not allowed to make a post in the development forums, so i make here a quest:
im using runny 5.0 by sebastian... great rom....
my quest is: how big is your swap of your ext when you use roms like sebastians runny?
thanks
I guess you mean your SWAP partition when you partition the SD...i've set it to 0 based on a root guide that is highly recommended and successful among german users. Works perfectly fine. I also have an ext4 with 1,5GB and Runny runs like hell
Ok thanks dude!! Closed
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I wanna ask something about the ROM, actually the bug I found is in all 3.5 sense ROMs.
Every time I pull down the notification menu, the usb connection restarts, it's very annoying.
Is there anyone with this bug?
A quest? Oh goodie, a RPG game! OK, I'm ready! What's the first quest? Will I get new armor or cool weapons?
while on the subject of Runny 5, I'm kinda curious about this ROM, while still being a tiny boot noob-ish. I think it might be working when I have revolutionary hboot and 1GB ext3, but I would be calmer if someone could tell me it will/won't work
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while on the subject of Runny 5, I'm kinda curious about this ROM, while still being a tiny boot noob-ish. I think it might be working when I have revolutionary hboot and 1GB ext3, but I would be calmer if someone could tell me it will/won't work
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Yes it works perfectly.. you need a ext 4 and it recommend cmr2 hboot.. it works also with stock hboot... But i think its better with the modded hboot table...
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tomen94 said:
Yes it works perfectly.. you need a ext 4 and it recommend cmr2 hboot.. it works also with stock hboot... But i think its better with the modded hboot table...
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So I should partition my sd with fat/ext4, do a full wipe and just install runny? I currently have ext3 and don't feel like copying all my music back to sd card... do you think it would work just as well with stock hboot and ext3? I saw it on rom manager (didn't have any problems yet with it) and would give it a go
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So I should partition my sd with fat/ext4, do a full wipe and just install runny? I currently have ext3 and don't feel like copying all my music back to sd card... do you think it would work just as well with stock hboot and ext3? I saw it on rom manager (didn't have any problems yet with it) and would give it a go
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I think it will work (boot up) with a ext 3, but sebastian recommend a ext 4, so i dont know... Just give a try... At first you have to wipe all user data, cache and dalvik... Then you flash the rom.. after this you flash the script (a2sdx v3 you can find it in the runny thread)
Its better if you use a ext 4 partition... Its not so.difficult to format the partition.. or?
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matus.karahuta said:
So I should partition my sd with fat/ext4, do a full wipe and just install runny? I currently have ext3 and don't feel like copying all my music back to sd card... do you think it would work just as well with stock hboot and ext3? I saw it on rom manager (didn't have any problems yet with it) and would give it a go
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Yes there is also a stock hboot version in the thread... There are the installation instructions ...
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My config : Hboot cm7r2, ext4 part = 1500MB and fat 32 What else ? It's ok
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My config : Hboot cm7r2, ext4 part = 1500MB and fat 32 What else ? It's ok
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Yes its ok... You only need the files (rom+ script) the rom is really good... I installed about 40 apps and its very smooth...
Do you have a swap partition? Its better if you dont have one...
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my config
my config
stock hboot
1gb ext4
0mb swap
Hello there Dudes!
First i want to send you my compliments for your GREAT and helpfull sites/ forum about all rootings & stuff
A past few Days i had such no idea about rooting etc. You helped me sooo much, i just want to say thank you...
And NOW?!?!
I'm coming from FROYO_2.2.2 with 5.11.xx now i have the OFFICIAL GB 2.3.3 with 5.17.xx
I HAVE ROOT! I HAVE S-OFF!
I have a new Hboot and CWM flashed!!!
Everything works fine.
But I still have problems with the internal Memory. A few aps and im out of space This is why i now had part my sd with des RomManager Tool. 512 to ext and 256 to cache.
But the Stock-Install don't mount the ext.part.
Now i have read, i had to do it BEVORE install ROM. Right? Not a big Problem, but i want to stay Stock as possible. So this ROM seems to be perfekt.
It shouldn't be any problem with GSM/HSDPA/EDGE and all the european NetworkStuff?!?
By the way: Provider is O2 (but i think it doesn't matter)
BUT:
Now I have a little problem to download the file from mirror placed in the entry-post. Is it a fault of my network or did you move the files to another server?
Can you give me an alternate adress?
I can't post in the developer forms.
THX a LOT
PS: Just another little Q i didn't find an answer:
Must a system be installed on the device, to flash a new ROM with an RUU executive? Or will it work too if the Desire in Bootmenu, only?
Hi,
I Didn't need to activate a2sd before installing rom.
I use Cyanogenmod, but i thing it should work on stock rom too.
Search for “darktremor“.
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And you need only the recovery to flash a rom.
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Have you installed a2sd addon from Teppic's thread?
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No, I hadn't install the ap2sd from teppic yet, because the downlink seems to be broken too.
But, it doesn't matter. I want to wipe my phone, because of other (i hope) software errors I had on phone since a long time.
For example the international storage have after install the GB update from 2.2 to 2.3 only ~110 to 120 MB free. This can't be right, can it?
So, now I want to try to do a new installation with min 3 wipes/ factory reset before.
This is why the question is: can I install a RUU file over USB, when there is not longer a system on phone? I think I have to make it from Cmw-Recovery with an zip?
So, my greatest wish is. Please give me a funktional downlink to the system of teppic!
Thanks so far!
Edit: now I realized the post from conch
UPDATE:
Plugged in a new 8GB µSD (C4) and partition it with CWM-Recovery to 1024MB ext and 256MB Swap.
This should be enough
Now coming up a new Question. What is the ext-part now of format? ext-2/3/4? I don't have seen any option to change this in recovery? Is the AmonRa better with this? I read, there you can have a format of your choice.
So, now I only have to get the rom of teppic
EDIT: New thinking way...
1. Can the errors be solved by a damaged kernel? The ROM's dosn't inklude Kernel, does it?
How can completely change/erase the Kernel and flash a new one? Like the Same as flash an ROM or Radio?
2. When i flash an lower ROM (2.1/2.2) coming from a newer/higher (like 2.3.3 with Radio_5.17.xx) do i have to change the Radio too? Maybe for an 2.2 the 5.11.xx? Or will 2.2.x & 2.1 also work with an higher Radio (like 5.17.xx)
Thanks a lot!
InterstatesDesire said:
Plugged in a new 8GB µSD (C4) and partition it with CWM-Recovery to 1024MB ext and 256MB Swap.
This should be enough
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This swap is 256MB of wasted precious space.
InterstatesDesire said:
Now coming up a new Question. What is the ext-part now of format? ext-2/3/4? I don't have seen any option to change this in recovery? Is the AmonRa better with this? I read, there you can have a format of your choice.
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CWM formats to ext3.
InterstatesDesire said:
The ROM's dosn't inklude Kernel, does it?
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How do you expect a rom to work without one?
InterstatesDesire said:
2. When i flash an lower ROM (2.1/2.2) coming from a newer/higher (like 2.3.3 with Radio_5.17.xx) do i have to change the Radio too? Maybe for an 2.2 the 5.11.xx? Or will 2.2.x & 2.1 also work with an higher Radio (like 5.17.xx)
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They will work.
erklat said:
This swap is 256MB of wasted precious space.
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You think so? I've read somewhere that its used for dalvic-cache?! When it realy makes no sense, how can I remove it? By formatting the SD new? Or can I manage the partitions with a windows tool?
CWM formats to ex3
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Thanks. That will work good for me.
How do you expect a rom to work without one?
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Even somewhere here, I thought, I read about the ROM only a UI and a collection of different applications, mods and stuff.
InterstatesDesire said:
You think so? I've read somewhere that its used for dalvic-cache?! When it realy makes no sense, how can I remove it? By formatting the SD new? Or can I manage the partitions with a windows tool?
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I think it is for the best you do it from the scratch. Extending partitions rarely gives desired results IMHO.
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erklat said:
I think it is for the best you do it from the scratch. Extending partitions rarely gives desired results IMHO.
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So far, so good...
I had now installed the Stock GB Rom. From the official developer update RUU.
A few wipes, before install, seems to be cleaned my system. No I have ~125MB free space on phone!
I installed the CWMR 5.0 again and also the SU 3.x from teppic. Everything looks fine and working.
Just again the same little problem that the diskspace for my apps will be totaly full soon... What did the think about this little storage??? Arrrgglll!
Before installing ROM i changed the partition on SD to 1024MB ext-3 without swap.
And noew I have installed the ap2sd from teppic74 too. In recovery, everything looks fine. The install-procedure runs to end and show no errors.
But I still have 125MB and can't find any ap2sd app or something
Do i have to mount the ext-3 in any way, or did I miss something other?
Best regards and many thanks to all the people answered me! And not much less all the people who created this forum!
1) a2sd is not an app but a script. Besides ls I don't think there is a way except observing how your /data partition behaves. Frankly, I think adb is little over your head now. If not, search Droidzone's guide.
2) exactly what are you doing? You have a ruu installed now and you flash a2sd over it, or you installed Teppic's ROM?
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Exactly I installed the developer RUU. Then flash it over adb with the ClockworkMod-Recovery and than install the v3.x SU from teppic with flashing from CWMR. Make new boot to check if SU works. Seems to be fine.
Then installed the ap2sd, from teppic, again with CWMR. Looks fine. But I don't think it was success. Because I've seen a screenshot in another thread, from an HTC desire, where you can see, the phone storage is more than 1GB. But I don't find this post again:/
Now I go on, first install the "Rom Manager".
So pls my friends tell me what I did wrong. Because the great internal storage with ap2sd+ was the main reason to make my phone root.
InterstatesDesire said:
Exactly I installed the developer RUU. Then flash it over adb with the ClockworkMod-Recovery and than install the v3.x SU from teppic with flashing from CWMR. Make new boot to check if SU works. Seems to be fine.
Then installed the ap2sd, from teppic, again with CWMR. Looks fine. But I don't think it was success. Because I've seen a screenshot in another thread, from an HTC desire, where you can see, the phone storage is more than 1GB. But I don't find this post again:/
Now I go on, first install the "Rom Manager".
So pls my friends tell me what I did wrong. Because the great internal storage with ap2sd+ was the main reason to make my phone root.
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A2sd+ doesn't change the reported internal memory. That screen shot is from something else. I have a root memory faq in my signature which will explain how it works
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I know I probably seems like a noob because I have like 1 post but I just havent got arpund to posting until now... Anyway
I have an HTC Desire running cm7 and I was wondering what the best method of obtaining more internal memory is? I have an 8gb sd card with 500mb set as sd-ext, but I dont know how to fully use it can anyone elaborate on the use of these scripts?
I havent seen any really upto date posts on this so I thought I would ask, theres bound to be a thresd somewhere but you know...
in my opinion is #Typhon Data2SDInstaller for Supernova Classic 2.0+ (Version 4.0)
pomberito21 said:
in my opinion is #Typhon Data2SDInstaller for Supernova Classic 2.0+ (Version 4.0)
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Does it work well on cm7? im not willing to change ROM for more internal memory....
Roscobigfoot said:
Does it work well on cm7? im not willing to change ROM for more internal memory....
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don't know whether that method works on cm7
a couple of things that i know of:
1. S-OFF (search revolutionary) and change partition table to something like cm7r2, check alpharev. your internal memory goes up from stock (only 147MB) to 287MB.
2. flash an A2SD script such as Darktremor to make the most of your ext partition. it won't appear as extra internal memory, just tricks apps to move them there. keep all your apps on internal though i.e. don't manually move them to SD.
3. a different option, separate from A2SD is a data2sd script, don't know much about these, but have a look if they interest you. they extend the internal memory (adding your actual internal + ext)
and nandroid backup before trying any of this.
should have plenty of space after that!
I would combine 1 and 2.
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in my opinion is #Typhon Data2SDInstaller for Supernova Classic 2.0+ (Version 4.0)
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Yes, but as title suggests, it's designed to work only with Supernova. If you want a generic data2sd installer, visit Sibere's data2sd thread.
Droidzone said:
Yes, but as title suggests, it's designed to work only with Supernova. If you want a generic data2sd installer, visit Sibere's data2sd thread.
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...and enlarge your sd-ext probably to 1GB
I wouldn't recommend data2sd on 500MB, pretty pointless. If you're going to do it, do it properly
i have S-OFF already and ill look at the partition tables thing too see if that would help thanks, i tried simple2ext or something like that and i had to restore my nandroid is it functioned horribly so ill also look at darktremor
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Ill extend it to 1gb then if you think its needed i have like 4gb free on my sd and i could get a 16gb if i could be bothered...
It certainly seems a waste of the script, lol.
Anyone willing to talk me through flashing the hboot from alpharev? ive done things along these lines before and i have half-bricked my phone before so any helpers?
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Anyone willing to talk me through flashing the hboot from alpharev? ive done things along these lines before and i have half-bricked my phone before so any helpers?
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I have an faq you can read, which will help. Then if you're still unclear...
Its the adb and fastboot faq via the link in my signature (guides etc). Just skiup the adb stuff as its not relevant.
First read and understand that. Dont do anything yet. Just read
I know how to use fastboot its just that alpharev says flash then wipe cache which is fine but then says "wipe everything and restore" I dont really get that?
I am very happy with CM7 and an ext4 1gb partition made useable for apps and dalvik moved by this tool: S2E (search for it in Android Market)
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I know how to use fastboot its just that alpharev says flash then wipe cache which is fine but then says "wipe everything and restore" I dont really get that?
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You should be fine with nandroid backup, flash hboot, nandroid restore.
It never hurts to format system, cache and data via recovery (cwm based) or via fastboot commands
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Thanks for clarifying that, I just didn't understand why wipe then restore ... But they just say that to make sure the chances of error are extremely minimal and so it's not needed thanks again I'll flash it tomorrow night
INT2SD is the best d2sd ever. So if you enjoy using cm7, just flash INT2SD script.
I use S2E for CM7. just download from market -really easy to set up and works great.
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hans moleman said:
I use S2E for CM7. just download from market -really easy to set up and works great.
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This is the best solution. it also enables the necessary speed teaks (you can choose) such as journal off, perfect mount and the sd speed tweak
StylishPirat said:
INT2SD is the best d2sd ever. So if you enjoy using cm7, just flash INT2SD script.
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How do you know it would be the best? Did you already try all other DATA2SD-scripts?
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StylishPirat said:
INT2SD is the best d2sd ever. So if you enjoy using cm7, just flash INT2SD script.
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Pray do explain why..