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Hey guys,what's up?
So...I am running AuraxTSense 8.0 on my phone and have made an ext4 about 600Mb partition for Apps2SD.Recently I installed Pocket Legends on my phone along with some other games and all was ok.However,yesterday I tried to update Pocket Legends from the Market and it said that there is limited space on my phone and it cannot update.I then checked in my settings and I had 23 Mb free on my phone.I tried moving all apps to SD with Titanium Backup(excluding Launchers and widgets) and it persists that I only have that much space.What is going on?
Also,when choosing to install apps on external storage in Spare Parts,does it mean Apps2SD+ partition or froyo Apps2SD?
C'mon,no one yet?
tolis626 said:
C'mon,no one yet?
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i dont have this problem anymore, i have lots of apps installed and still have 1.6GB of internal storage lol
AndroHero said:
i dont have this problem anymore, i have lots of apps installed and still have 1.6GB of internal storage lol
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Yeah,I know.You're using the data2SD thing.I've seen you in that thread.Bastard!
I however am using the good old apps2ext,with an ext4 partition.What about that?
Thanks for the reply btw!
I've been having much the same problem.
It would seem that no matter how many apps I move to the SD card, I don't actually get all that more free space on the phone.
A 'df' in the terminal shows me that I've got plenty of space in /system, but /data is nearly full. Nearly half of that is in /data/dalvik-cache.
So I wiped the dalvik cache from recovery and now it's okay again.. for the time being.
Maybe PocketLegends requires a lot of space in /data? Or something was wrong with the update?
ok guys heres the deal, when you use apps2sd what is does is create a symlink between /data/app/, the dalvik-cache and the ext partition on your sd card. the downside of this method is, /data/data/ remains on your phone, /data/data. holds all your settings, app data and other things, and this is where your space is going, one great way for s-off users to improve there situations, is to change the MTD Partitions on there device, basically taking space from /system and /cache and adding this to /data, you can reclaim and extra 50mb+ using this method
Thanks for explaining, AndroHero.
Right now, I have it set with 250 MB /system, 147 MB /data and 40 MB /cache.
I suppose if I'm running out of space on /data but not on /system, then I could repartition again.
martijn_bakker said:
Thanks for explaining, AndroHero.
Right now, I have it set with 250 MB /system, 147 MB /data and 40 MB /cache.
I suppose if I'm running out of space on /data but not on /system, then I could repartition again.
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if your really stingy with /system and remove all the htc apps and widgets you dont use, you can get /system down to 170-180mb that would give you 70-80mb of space back, heres another good tip, there is no point having flash player in /system as its always going to be updated, if you remove installflashplayer.apk from /system/app/ and the associated libflashplayer.so in /system/lib/, that gives you and extra 15mb straight away
AndroHero said:
if your really stingy with /system and remove all the htc apps and widgets you dont use, you can get /system down to 170-180mb that would give you 70-80mb of space back, heres another good tip, there is no point having flash player in /system as its always going to be updated, if you remove installflashplayer.apk from /system/app/ and the associated libflashplayer.so in /system/lib/, that gives you and extra 15mb straight away
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I'd say it's easier to use the data2sd trick
Absolutely..
WTB 16GB Class 10 SD
martijn_bakker said:
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WTB 16GB Class 10 SD
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You should refrain from making a partition bigger than 2GB for DATA2SD. Issues have been reported, specially with market.
Read thoroughly the DATA2SD thread to gather all informations
Need some reassurance...The Internal MB free is the space I need to worry about as the phone uses this as its memory. I have a few apps installed already, but was curious if I need to worry about the system Rom size.
Mine Reads:
System Rom: 367MB (9.94 MB free) (Kingsrom R 6.1)
Internal : 448 (323 MB free)
SD Card: 15.9 GB (10.2 GB Free)
Your running kings from it takes up slot of space if you want space flash another rom hehe
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The Internal space is what the Apps are installed to anyway correct?
Do a search for APS2SD.
It's very simple to partition your SDCard so you can run that.
Here's a good guide:
http://themikmik.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=221
Unless you're adjusting your partition sizes (which I believe most people don't do), it really doesn't matter how big or small the ROM itself is, as long as it fits. It goes on a separate partition (/system), which is a fixed size. With few if any exceptions, files don't get written to /system during daily use of the ROM. Your apps and data get installed to /data, which is also a fixed size partition. Having space free in one doesn't help you with the other. So the extra data in /system just sits there unused.
There are ways you can adjust the partition size, but I think there are some downsides to doing that -- I don't know off the top of my head what, but there must be a reason it hasn't broadly caught on. You can also manually move apps into /system, but if they get updated you have to remember to move the updates back again.
I'm using app2sd+ on my Desire with the Leedroid ROM. The ext3 partition on my SD card has over 500MB free space yet my Desire still reports low internal storage - 6MB and at one point last week it was completely full, ie. apps stopped syncing data as they couldn't write to the storage.
I have taken the SD card out of the phone and mounted it on my Linux computer to see how much space it's using:
Code:
/dev/mmcblk0p2 836M 245M 549M 31% /media/f74d2438-5eb6-4570-9ee3-fae2f7e5ef74
(where 549M is free space)
Code:
du -sh /media/f74d2438-5eb6-4570-9ee3-fae2f7e5ef74/*
105M /media/f74d2438-5eb6-4570-9ee3-fae2f7e5ef74/app
2,0M /media/f74d2438-5eb6-4570-9ee3-fae2f7e5ef74/app-private
122M /media/f74d2438-5eb6-4570-9ee3-fae2f7e5ef74/dalvik-cache
Anyone know what could be causing this, and how to get the phone to see how much space is really there?
Basically check if the android has moved any apps to the sd cards fat 32 partition by going to manage applications/SD card in settings
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This why I dont like app2sd.
It has moved a handful of apps to the FAT32 partition on the SD card. But I don't understand why - I have tonnes of space on the ext3 partition that I created for app2sd+, why does it not see that space?
(I didn't want to use app2sd+ either but I have no choice due to the crappy amount of internal storage on the Desire)
It does it automatically so just move as much apps back to the phone as possible then run the a2sd reinstall command
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reaper7881 said:
It does it automatically so just move as much apps back to the phone as possible then run the a2sd reinstall command
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what command is that out of interest?
also some apps automagically try and set themselves up to install to the fat32 partition - annoying... perhaps google should implement a way to choose where you want them installing, but i guess they think they are catering for the majority...
Once u have moved thwdpps from the fat 32 to the phone that command reruns the a2sd script movring app the apps on the phone to the extra partition
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Sorry I don't understand. If I try to move those apps back to the phone (internal storage) it won't let me because it claims there's not enough space available.
However as I showed in my first post there's plenty of free space on the ext3 partition on my SD card. That ext3 partition is supposed to be used by app2sd+ to extend the internal storage.
I'm not sure what a2sd reinstall has to do with it - I'm not using a2sd I'm using app2sd+ (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7473663&postcount=3)
shankly1985 said:
This why I dont like app2sd.
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This has nothing to do with a2sd+ script per se. I'd call that a bug in Leedroid implementation.
reaper7881 said:
It does it automatically so just move as much apps back to the phone as possible then run the a2sd reinstall command
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Leedroid uses cyanogenmod script. You are talking about Darktremor's, so this won't work.
Lothaen said:
perhaps google should implement a way to choose where you want them installing, but i guess they think they are catering for the majority...
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You have this option in Spare parts for a year or so. I noticed it for the first time in October last year. But it only works for those apps which had hardcoded Froyo a2sd (fat32) capability.
Op, where is your davlik cache? Download diskusage and check what happens. With some 90 apps & stock hboot you should have some 90mb internal. I have about that with my setup from the sig and my 130mb davlik is on /data.
Hi,
In Diskusage->Appstorage shows 319MB for data and 314MB for Applications.
In /data Diskusage shows 132.9MB of data.
I have 5.04MB free internal storage.
reluctantwinmouser said:
I'm using app2sd+ on my Desire with the Leedroid ROM. The ext3 partition on my SD card has over 500MB free space yet my Desire still reports low internal storage - 6MB and at one point last week it was completely full, ie. apps stopped syncing data as they couldn't write to the storage.
I have taken the SD card out of the phone and mounted it on my Linux computer to see how much space it's using:
Code:
/dev/mmcblk0p2 836M 245M 549M 31% /media/f74d2438-5eb6-4570-9ee3-fae2f7e5ef74
(where 549M is free space)
Code:
du -sh /media/f74d2438-5eb6-4570-9ee3-fae2f7e5ef74/*
105M /media/f74d2438-5eb6-4570-9ee3-fae2f7e5ef74/app
2,0M /media/f74d2438-5eb6-4570-9ee3-fae2f7e5ef74/app-private
122M /media/f74d2438-5eb6-4570-9ee3-fae2f7e5ef74/dalvik-cache
Anyone know what could be causing this, and how to get the phone to see how much space is really there?
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Can you Please Post Questions in the Q&A forum Thanks
Moving to Q&A
I am tired searching months for solution... my Internal memory always comes to 10MB or less.
I have:
HTC Desire with LeeDrOiD GB V3.0.8.2 Bravo
Hopefully it use AP2SD+ right
My Titanium backup says:
System ROM: 262 MB (19,2 MB free)
Internal: 158 MB (16,1 MB free)
SD card: 7,23 GB MB (25,8 MB free) ... this is not problem, I just need to erase bunch of mp3, etc...
SD caRD (a2sd): 697 MB (508 MB free)
LeeDrOiD GB V3.0.8.2 Bravo - Nice room, a bunch of unusefull apps but small, probably not big deal.
I prefer my own apss:
music - Mixing
calendar - Busssiness calendar
RealCalc
ES File Explorer
TeamViewer... Alots of them use soo many Internal memory.
Nimbuz.. Also take too much
A long time ago I have erased flash app... Easy live with that. Always fighting with Google earth update to get it right - to have enough memory before update...
LOVE HTC Desire, but that memory... As you can see I am moding user, like to have my apps and right setup.
TO eassy it, to find solutions for me, some more info for you:
I was thinking about to get different ROM.
I think I can live without Sense - using Mail widget and news widged.. but I think it can be raplaced with other market apps... I liked go launcher EX, but didnt have memory space to play with it - therfore it was erased.
I was reading something about HTC allow more freelly deal with this HTC desire memory problem... Didnt find solutions yet.
The 'solution' I found was to sell my Desire and buy a Samsung galaxy 2.
The internal storage on the Desire is just too small for many users, and the complicated and unsupported hacks to expand it with SD card storage are buggy and error prone.
reluctantwinmouser said:
The 'solution' I found was to sell my Desire and buy a Samsung galaxy 2.
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I support this solution!
Yes, I was thinking about that. But I was choosing/looking for my phone soo hard and thinking that this is RIGHT form me... Unofrtunatelly I forgot about memory... My first touch screen phone... (right screen size.. not to big, not too expensive, but new technology- something better, good forum support...) I think you understand.
It is a bit hard for me to buy new one soo early. But I will have to.
OK, I take this as solution.
I ma strongly thinking about to get small or the smallest room which I can get...
Maybe Cyanogen
Any recomendations?
Redux 2 or dGB
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Smallest rom you can get right now is dGB. It uses only 60 MB of /system.
SwiftKeyed from dGB with Transparent XDA App
Yes, I am going to try each one.
.. Just need to findout about backups ... if Titanium backup will do all the thing (app + setings)
I have no idea where did I found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045824
Does it worth a try?
danielson84 said:
Yes, I am going to try each one.
.. Just need to findout about backups ... if Titanium backup will do all the thing (app + setings)
I have no idea where did I found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045824
Does it worth a try?
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Titanium or My Backup will do thing.
It is worth of trying and I recommend it if you want Sense ROM but you need good sd card. I had some lags so switched back to Redux 2.
i have a buzz wildfire with alpharevx HBOOT
is possible to resize partition with tools like this?
[HOW-TO] Easily resize system + data partitions!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171531
actually the /system partition is 250 mb and the nightly cyanogen mod use only circa 120 mb
and the /data is only 175mb
and /cache 40 mb!
on alpharev.nl there is the sample configuration of partiotions for cm7 for bravo devices
/system /cache /data
145 mb 5 mb 287 mb
i'm interested on a similar configuration for my wildfire
anyone can help me?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340
Keep cache at 10MB, and remember, only keep a 145MB /system partition if you are using AOSP ROMs like CM7. It won't work on stock / sense based ROMs. (You are using CM7, but, just thought I would let you know)
thanks it is my solution!
you could also make an sd-ext partition on your SD card and move your apps completely to your SD-card. That way I now only use 35 mb of my internal memory for app data, all the apps itself are stored fully on SD card. Works great
i tried to increase internal memory on my g2 using the pc10img,cmd prompt but after i had 362mb internal and 1.05gb usable.,,a downgrade from 421/1.3 to 362/1.05 memory ,what went wrong?how do i correct the hboot or expand the memory by other tweaks,help pls
well I believe you are just mistaken on what the difference between the dz hboot and that of the g2 are.
the dz just alocates more memory to the system (taking some from data) this will not give you more ram (which is the memory you are think of I believe)
the only reason to use the dz hboot is for larger roms (sense roms) for they need a larger system partition.
but by doing this you haven't lost any ram, but you didn't gain any either
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well I believe you are just mistaken on what the difference between the dz hboot and that of the g2 are.
the dz just alocates more memory to the system (taking some from data) this will not give you more ram (which is the memory you are think of I believe)
the only reason to use the dz hboot is for larger roms (sense roms) for they need a larger system partition.
but by doing this you haven't lost any ram, but you didn't gain any either
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then why do i have 1.05gb now insted of the previous 1.3 gb....anyway if what u are saying is right ,then i just lost about 250mb into syestem memory,is that right?and why isnt it reflecting in the system dedicated memory,which is currently 362mb total.?hope u saw the screenshots i uploaded,is that normal?
well the screen shoots you provided don't show system partition, what the do show looks right.
download titanium backup from market (free version will work fine)
you will see system (rom) then internal - this is what changed
think of it as a straght line where your memory lies. with small dividers for system and data, you just moved the lined where there is now more system alocated memory but then you know have less internal... if you use sdext then no biggy as you would but all apps in there, if you don't you didn't loose much but gained the ability to flash sense roms
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demkantor said:
well the screen shoots you provided don't show system partition, what the do show looks right.
download titanium backup from market (free version will work fine)
you will see system (rom) then internal - this is what changed
think of it as a straght line where your memory lies. with small dividers for system and data, you just moved the lined where there is now more system alocated memory but then you know have less internal... if you use sdext then no biggy as you would but all apps in there, if you don't you didn't loose much but gained the ability to flash sense roms
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thanks man,i understand perfectly what you are saying,thanks
Approximately
DZ : ~550MB /system ~300 /cache ~1GB /data
G2 : ~409MB /system ~200 /cache ~1.3GB /data
For Sense and a number of other 'larger' roms, the G2 doesn't have a large enough /system to hold it, so naturally you would have to re-partition to the desire-z hboot in order to have a /system partition large enough to hold. It's gota take that space from somewhere else.
PS: "Memory" or your RAM is always going to be around 370MB, you don't get the full 512MB regardless of which hboot on, since the rest of that goes to your radio/gpu/etc. That's why Desire-Z didn't make the cut for ICS from HTC when they said '512MB or more', in their mind DZ doesn't have 512 for system (Which is technically true).
kbeezie said:
Approximately
DZ : ~550MB /system ~300 /cache ~1GB /data
G2 : ~409MB /system ~200 /cache ~1.3GB /data
For Sense and a number of other 'larger' roms, the G2 doesn't have a large enough /system to hold it, so naturally you would have to re-partition to the desire-z hboot in order to have a /system partition large enough to hold. It's gota take that space from somewhere else.
PS: "Memory" or your RAM is always going to be around 370MB, you don't get the full 512MB regardless of which hboot on, since the rest of that goes to your radio/gpu/etc. That's why Desire-Z didn't make the cut for ICS from HTC when they said '512MB or more', in their mind DZ doesn't have 512 for system (Which is technically true).
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You are so right I checked with titanium back up and I had 572rom 1.3gb usable memory.thanks guys.uve been most helpful