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What if you do not use Facebook or Twitter?

I know it is hard to believe that in this day and age there are people who do not spend half their day refreshing Facebook and Twitter. I personally do not even have an account at Facebook or Twitter or any other social networking site.
This is no problem as long as Facebook access is contained in an app that I can simply not launch. In WP7 however, from what I've seen of it at least, the social networking aspects seem completely unavoidable.
Whenever I go into contacts or people or whatever they are calling it, there will be a whole "What's New" column (Facebook Wall or recent Tweets I guess?) that for me would be blank all the time. Then there is the option to "share" content with others that seems to appear on every other context menu in the OS.
I'll admit my knowledge of WP7 is so far only skin deep. It is just a lot of what I read about it talks about how well integrated it is with social networks.
So does anyone know how far this integration goes? Is it just a few features that can be easily ignored? Or is it so deeply weeded to the OS that it would be constantly in your way and difficult to remove, like IE used to be with Windows.
If it is the later, clearly the best solution would be to not purchase a phone with WP7 on it.

Clearly WP7 has a ton of social integration within the OS but I don't think it's going to be mandatory that you actually use the stuff. They are aiming the device at business as well as entertainment and I know some companies would not want their employees doing facebook on their work phones. I'm sure they've realized this and made it so those features just don't show up when you arent linked to a facebook account.

MooGoo said:
I know it is hard to believe that in this day and age there are people who do not spend half their day refreshing Facebook and Twitter. I personally do not even have an account at Facebook or Twitter or any other social networking site.
This is no problem as long as Facebook access is contained in an app that I can simply not launch. In WP7 however, from what I've seen of it at least, the social networking aspects seem completely unavoidable.
Whenever I go into contacts or people or whatever they are calling it, there will be a whole "What's New" column (Facebook Wall or recent Tweets I guess?) that for me would be blank all the time. Then there is the option to "share" content with others that seems to appear on every other context menu in the OS.
I'll admit my knowledge of WP7 is so far only skin deep. It is just a lot of what I read about it talks about how well integrated it is with social networks.
So does anyone know how far this integration goes? Is it just a few features that can be easily ignored? Or is it so deeply weeded to the OS that it would be constantly in your way and difficult to remove, like IE used to be with Windows.
If it is the later, clearly the best solution would be to not purchase a phone with WP7 on it.
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+1 with a little difference.
What do people like us do who do have facebook and twitter account but since we are based in china they are completely blocked here. Facebook, twitter, dailymotion, youtube etc are mostly blocked and hence i see the integration in Win 7 not much useful. Though i do think it will offer a lot of uniqueness but for me it would be iphone in the very future when i decide to buy the phone.

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I hate face..shi..t and I don't need twitter
but, because I do not have an account on these sites would stop using WM7
sorry for my english.. is english-google.. XD

if you dont have a account then just dont sign in..its not mandatory, just an added feature that you can turn on if you want/need

I don't understand. If you don't use Facebook and Twitter then just... don't use it. What task could you possibly be trying to do that would say"must log in to Facebook to continue"? None
If you don't have Facebook feeds coming in there is nothing to avoid or ignore.. so what's the problem again?

burnblue said:
I don't understand. If you don't use Facebook and Twitter then just... don't use it. What task could you possibly be trying to do that would say"must log in to Facebook to continue"? None
If you don't have Facebook feeds coming in there is nothing to avoid or ignore.. so what's the problem again?
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Are you sure?
In the emulator at least, the column "What's New" is always there. Whether it be right next to the alphabetical list of contacts, or right next to the single contact info screen.
Also, because of the panorama display, you always see part of the next screen to your right. Then there is the fact that it is necessary to pan your way through contiguous screens to get to the one you want (there seems to be no way to skip over intervening screens/tabs).
These are the two main reasons which lead me to believe that this kind of integration is not something that can be simply disabled.
I never setup any Facebook account on the emulator.
Of course I realize that this is beta/alpha software I am dealing with. Hopefully Microsoft will be smart enough to remove social networking related tabs (screens, pages, what are they supposed to be called now?) if the appropriate accounts are not set up.

I don't see why a "share" option in a context menu or a "What's New" tab on a panel can't be shown if a person does not have social networking set up.
Take Sony Ericsson phones for example. MusicNow and stuff like a WAP browser don't simply "disappear" if you don't set it up. It's still there among the options.
Look at Nokia phones. Even if you don't set up an APN for use with internet, the option to click on a link from a SMS to launch a website would still appear. Whether you click on it is up to you.
The option to "share" in WP7 should always be there. Whether you click on it is up to you.

Hemant said:
What do people like us do who do have facebook and twitter account but since we are based in china they are completely blocked here. Facebook, twitter, dailymotion, youtube etc are mostly blocked and hence i see the integration in Win 7 not much useful. Though i do think it will offer a lot of uniqueness but for me it would be iphone in the very future when i decide to buy the phone.
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Maybe you can use a proxy or VPN service?

MooGoo said:
Are you sure?
In the emulator at least, the column "What's New" is always there. Whether it be right next to the alphabetical list of contacts, or right next to the single contact info screen.
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With the whats new maybe if you don't have Facebook/twitter linked it would just show recent SMS under peoples names or emails?

I'm going on the assumption that because the OEM developer documentation says that any OEM included applications 'must work without network/internet connectivity' that the OS will also work this way and there will be options to turn on and off the features.
It may turn out that we need to 'unlock' these features though as so far I've only seen it written in OEM info.

Interesting. Wouldn't that requirement exclude the inclusion of something like a weather application? Or does it just mean that the program would have to have the capability to cache data for offline use if necessary.

Even assuming that 'What's New' doesn't show you emails, SMS and other updates from that contact that have nothing to do with social networks...
you don't have to swipe over there.
With developers' ability to plug in, 'What's New' is at some point going to include some functionality you're interested in. Even if it's empty, that's no reason to disable it

I do hope you are correct about What's New being populated with emails/SMS etc, that would at least make some sense. But if this is not the case, I do not see why I should need to put up with an entirely worthless panel just on the off chance that some carrier may someday decide to put something there that interests me.
And why shouldn't I be able to disable it? If it is not disabled and just left empty as you suggest, I would indeed have to swipe it as the OS does not seem to provide a way to simply jump to the panel you want to see. This is another issue entirely, constantly having to swipe through unwanted content just to get the information you do want will get old very quickly.

MooGoo said:
And why shouldn't I be able to disable it?
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Why shouldn't you be able to multi-task?
Why shouldn't you be able to develop in any language for any API that you want?
Why shouldn't you...

Check out this new twitter app, Beezz

Just found a new Twitter app called Beezz. A few improvements could very well make this app better than the official Twitter app! Check it out, it's free.

It has promise, but it doesn't save state and doesn't support favorites, I use them as bookmarks. It does seem more solid than the official app.

ckacey said:
It has promise, but it doesn't save state and doesn't support favorites, I use them as bookmarks. It does seem more solid than the official app.
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Main reasons why this app hurts to use as a primary Twitter app. Why do none of the WP7 Twitter apps save your spot in the timeline?
It's probably worth noting that Beezz has a scheduled update for either today or tomorrow which includes push notifications and a live tile.

I like seesmic

Do your direct messages for twitter work in seesmic because mine don't? It also has a tombstone bug when using multiple accounts that's incredibly annoying. Other than that I like it.
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I like seesmic
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Installed seesmic, didn't like it, uninstalled it. Like beezz a lot. Waiting for that update that supports live tiles I've been hearing about but have yet to receive.
If there's something that needs live tiles, it's twitter.

Thanks for sharing I have been dying over here without notifications....hopefuly update comes soon and answers prayers. Anyone have anything in the direction of FB? Same issue primarily, no notifications.

I installed the update today, and still not getting any live tile notification of new tweets. I turned the setting for it on, but still no go.

Yeah notifications aren't working for me either. They must be having some server problems at the moment.

Every time I try to turn on the notifications, Beezz throws an error!
Edit: Just tried again and it's all working now! Have promoted this app's tile to right near the top! :O)

How can I allow the application to access my account?
I'm not able to login.

The live tile stopped working.

I uninstalled it again, because live tile support is nice, but at least for me it didn't show a number of unread tweets bigger than 30. No matter what happen, nothing read over night, half a day of not using twitter, 30 has always been the maximum.
furthermore I really like the "quote a tweet" feature of the official one, since wp7 doesn't support c&p. Since that isn't in Beezz I switched back.
Maybe some updates are able to change that.

Does anyone have a .xap file of Beezz ? i'm from holland and the windows phone 7 market isn't available yet. Found a lot of xap files, (inc a beezz.xap, but it didn't work) so i'm looking for a other one.
Greats from holland!

Paatskie said:
Does anyone have a .xap file of Beezz ? i'm from holland and the windows phone 7 market isn't available yet. Found a lot of xap files, (inc a beezz.xap, but it didn't work) so i'm looking for a other one.
Greats from holland!
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First, you brought up a topic that died in December, so you might want to look for something more recent next time.
Secondly, it's easy to access the marketplace from Holland.
First, on your computer, go to 'Configuratiescherm', then 'Klok, taal en regio'. Choose 'Locatie wijzigen', and select 'Verenigde Staten' as your country (this is for Vista/Win7, but should be similar on XP).
Second, change your Live ID's location to the United States or 'Verenigde Staten'.
You can do this by going to Hotmail, opties (top right), meer opties, Accountgegevens, and change it there.
Then, reset your device, link it with your live ID and you can access all disabled services like Voice Commands, Marketplace, Zune, directions in Maps and more.
If it doesn't work, you can also make a new account. If your old one is '[email protected]', you could make your new one '[email protected]'. Make sure the country you select is USA or 'Verenigde Staten'. That's what I did, and it also worked (as long as your computer also has 'Verenigde Staten' as its location in the control panel)

Thanx for the reaction!
Got it all working! Thanx alot dude!
Bedankt

if the developer is online here, so please update this app, because Twitter has changed something with DM's. No there is "Twitter Connection Problem" every time i start the app. So i hope that the author can update it. It's theonly Twitter Client with Tweet Count in the live tile, or does anyone else know's an alternative?

bilbo_b said:
if the developer is online here, so please update this app, because Twitter has changed something with DM's. No there is "Twitter Connection Problem" every time i start the app. So i hope that the author can update it. It's theonly Twitter Client with Tweet Count in the live tile, or does anyone else know's an alternative?
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Birdsong & Rowi are both superior apps... I prefer Rowi, it's quick, really quick, and the notifications are reliable... Check it out, @Rowiapp on Twitter

FiyaFleye said:
Birdsong & Rowi are both superior apps... I prefer Rowi, it's quick, really quick, and the notifications are reliable... Check it out, @Rowiapp on Twitter
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I have installed Rowi now (Trial), but couldnt find anything to set up the Live Tile. My only reason for Beezz are the Live Tile with Tweet Counts. I dont need the Live Tile for DM and such things. Only the pure total Unread Tweet Counts are important for me. But i must say, its very fast this app. Faster than Birdsong or moTweets. I have installed Birdsong also, but i will uninstall it because, there are also no Tweet Count, only a Live Tile for DM.

i don't think the trial of rowi supports live tiles
just buy the full version, you won't be unhappy
edit: actually, I don't think rowi has a live tile count for new tweets

facebook integration improvements

Hey guys,
A few days ago an idea came to my mind and I emailed it to Brandon Watson from Microsoft. I found his email on a blog post about hacking wp7.
I studied abroard so I use fb to talk to friends I had there. It is really nice because before I use facebook I would just lose contact. The language sqitch button is genius makes it easy to switch between the languages we mix together.
Now not everything is ment to publish on each others walls and idk how hackable the operating system is yet. But it would be very nice to send somebody a personal messagefrom the contactlist. I also suggested in the email. I could be integrated in the now plain message hub with a pivot to facebook messages. Since the operating system is very well thought out to get the job done as quickly as possible. Besides fb messages, first you get an email. Its facebook you open it, want to respond so close open fb app click post, click the new message, respond. Really slow, it would be nice to just see the messages and be able to respond directly.
The fb integration was named like a pretty big feature and for the foto,s it is but other than that not very usefull yet.
I dont know how difficult it is to add a link to the contactlist. Which links to a self build mesaaging app with all the facebook messages stored. ( I can build the app, my device is legally unlocked) but idk if its possible to add a link to that page.
Anyway is there anybody else who thought about this?

Google Facebook Photo Sync

This is a little off-topic, and I'm sorry if it doesn't belong here, but I am looking for some people to test out a new website I've been working on, and thought I'd look to my fellow Inc2 owners.
When I first got CM7 working on my old Fascinate, I was a little bummed that there was no way to link my Facebook contacts. So I decided to make my own tool. As of right now, it only syncs pictures, no phone numbers or anything.
I've spent a good amount of time working out the bugs, but there is a chance I missed some, so if you encounter any problems please let me know. Don't worry though, it won't mess up your Google contacts at all.
Please note that it currently DOES NOT work in Internet Explorer, due to a bug on Google's end which will hopefully be fixed soon.
http://www.pfrybarger.com/googlefbsync/googlefbsync.html
Thanks!
Edit: Also I should note that this won't work on mobile browsers (can't scroll through certain lists), and you must have javascript enabled in your browser.

What are the benefits over using the Facebook App to sync contacts?
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Let's see, the main benefits are:
- Ability to crop and resize profile pictures
- Pictures are visible outside of just your phone, so in Gmail for instance
- No need to re-link after flashing a new rom (I always found this a pain)
- Pictures will show up everywhere on your phone. I believe if you use the Facebook app to sync, the pictures will not show up for certain apps, like messaging
- No new contacts will be added to your phone
My tool will only sync pictures, and not phone numbers or email addresses. I found it kind of annoying that the Facebook app would pull these in, but I guess that's a matter of personal preference.
As of right now, there is no automatic updating of profile pictures, but I hope to get this implemented soon.

zeddicus225 said:
Let's see, the main benefits are:
- Ability to crop and resize profile pictures
- Pictures are visible outside of just your phone, so in Gmail for instance
- No need to re-link after flashing a new rom (I always found this a pain)
- Pictures will show up everywhere on your phone. I believe if you use the Facebook app to sync, the pictures will not show up for certain apps, like messaging
- No new contacts will be added to your phone
My tool will only sync pictures, and not phone numbers or email addresses. I found it kind of annoying that the Facebook app would pull these in, but I guess that's a matter of personal preference.
As of right now, there is no automatic updating of profile pictures, but I hope to get this implemented soon.
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Seems like exactly what I want.
Sux I don't have a computer.
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Gave it a go. after running the program, I got an error pop up that submitted an error report. The program still worked though. It found a few of my contacts in Google that weren't matched up with my Facebook contacts.
So if I'm understanding this, now that I have my Facebook contacts linked with my Google contacts, when loading my contacts on my phone now, (after flashing a rom or doing a hard reset) my Google contacts will still have the pictures linked to them without having to go back and doing the Facebook thing all over again?

PacerguyDon said:
Gave it a go. after running the program, I got an error pop up that submitted an error report. The program still worked though. It found a few of my contacts in Google that weren't matched up with my Facebook contacts.
So if I'm understanding this, now that I have my Facebook contacts linked with my Google contacts, when loading my contacts on my phone now, (after flashing a rom or doing a hard reset) my Google contacts will still have the pictures linked to them without having to go back and doing the Facebook thing all over again?
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Yep, as long as you hit the upload button once you were done linking the contacts. Instead of saving the pictures on the phone, like the Facebook app does, this actually saves the pictures to your Google contacts. So when you do a reset, and sign back in to your Google account, your contact picture will be sent to your phone along with all their other information.
You do need to link all of your contacts on the website though. It doesn't recognize which ones you already have linked on your phone.
I saw the bug reports, I'll take a look and try to see what happened. Thanks for giving it a try!

Could you add the feature of ONLY syncing facebook pictures and no contact numbers? The one thing I hate about syncing facebook in my phone is the fact some people have old numbers still on FB so there are two numbers when you go to call or text someone as well as there are unwanted numbers of people.

Darkpsych0 said:
Could you add the feature of ONLY syncing facebook pictures and no contact numbers? The one thing I hate about syncing facebook in my phone is the fact some people have old numbers still on FB so there are two numbers when you go to call or text someone as well as there are unwanted numbers of people.
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From what I understand, that's all it does, just the pictures.
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zombiiez said:
From what I understand, that's all it does, just the pictures.
Sent from my Incredible 2 using XDA App
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Yep, it only syncs pictures.
Also, zombiiez, I'll see what I can do to get it working on mobile browsers. No promises, but maybe I can get something working

Ah my apologizes i saw some other posts and thought it was just another facebook like app.
I wento n the website but none of my google contacts appear on the website.

Darkpsych0 said:
Ah my apologizes i saw some other posts and thought it was just another facebook like app.
I wento n the website but none of my google contacts appear on the website.
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Your contacts aren't showing up? That's strange... and no error message comes up? When you sign in and click 'Begin', how many contacts does it say you have under 'Google Contacts'?

got this error:
I'm sorry, you have encountered the following error:
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot set property 'myContact' of undefined
Please send an error report to the developer by clicking the button below. This will help fix and improve the site. Sorry and thanks!
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got this error:
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Hmm sorry about that. Still working out all the bugs.
I think I figured out the problem and got it fixed. Had to do with contacts that don't have names, but only email addresses. Let me know if that worked.

It says I have 0 google contacts -.- i just synced my google contacts on my phone

Darkpsych0 said:
It says I have 0 google contacts -.- i just synced my google contacts on my phone
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Could you do me a favor? Sign into the site again, and click on 'Begin'. Once the main page loads, click on the 'Comments/Questions' link at the bottom of the page, check the 'send log' checkbox, type anything in the big box, and hit send?
This will help me diagnose what's going on, and why your contacts aren't showing up. Thanks!

Zed does your website still work? The pages shows it as down.

Shoot, my server must be down. I'll take a look at it when I get some time today, sorry about that.

Alright it should be up and running now. Let me know if you have any problems. Thanks!

[Q] Twitter in the People app

Guys I'm sorry if this has been answered elsewhere but I couldn't find it on a search of the forums.
When I go into the "ME" profile in the People app and click on my picture I get my phone number, Gmail, Google+ and Google Talk icons show up but no Twitter. If I swipe to the right again I only see updates from my Google+ account but not Twitter. Twitter is synched to my phone and I have looked in the "edit settings" on my profile but there seems to be no option to add it.
Any clues ?
Thanks

Anyone ? Surely some whizz out there must know the obvious answer to this (clearly not so obvious to me).
Thanks in advance.

Unlike HTC Sync the stuff pulled is just from google+..... Same as the FB app doesn't sync to contacts.
Danny

Danny I'm a little confused. I see the Twitter option in others profiles? Was the Twitter & Google + feed in the people app not touted during the Nexus launch ? I'm pretty sure it was.

TheEdge65 said:
Guys I'm sorry if this has been answered elsewhere but I couldn't find it on a search of the forums.
When I go into the "ME" profile in the People app and click on my picture I get my phone number, Gmail, Google+ and Google Talk icons show up but no Twitter. If I swipe to the right again I only see updates from my Google+ account but not Twitter. Twitter is synched to my phone and I have looked in the "edit settings" on my profile but there seems to be no option to add it.
Any clues ?
Thanks
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Go to the People app, pull up the menu, and select the "Contacts to display" option. Click the Twitter option (it'll have the twitter icon and your twitter name) and it will list all of your twitter contacts. Find and open the contact you want to make a connection with, pull up the menu, and select "Edit". Then click Menu, "Join". Find the contact to join that twitter handle to, and you're done. Then just set your "Contacts to display" option back to whatever you had it at before.
Yeah, a little convoluted, but you only have to do it once.

BTW, there is a new twitter app that integrates nicely with your contacts now

This seems to be done for me in other contacts... but in the "ME" contact it doesn't. I just have the "discard" option and displays my google+ feed in the place of where the twitter is displayed in other contacts..... now I'm confused

Danny same goes for me. The explanation given above does not solve my issue i'm afraid though I am grateful for the reply. If I select twitter from the "contacts to display" it does not show my twitter name, just those I follow. On the ME tab it shows all my other personal details for other services so it should also show the twitter feed as well?
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Danny80y said:
This seems to be done for me in other contacts... but in the "ME" contact it doesn't. I just have the "discard" option and displays my google+ feed in the place of where the twitter is displayed in other contacts..... now I'm confused
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Yeah, you're right; I didn't realize you meant you wanted your OWN contact to have the Twitter updates. Apparently the Twitter app doesn't synchronize your own account as a contact, and there's no way in ICS to specifically add that connection, as far as I'm aware. Maybe they'll add that in a future update?

Ahhh ok,thanks Copkay. I thought I was going mad and missing something.
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Sorry for digging out old thread, but I have similar issue and I thought there is no point in making a new one.
In people when viewing contact that has twitter integration I can see in "Connections" (or something similar, I have different language set to default) "Twitter" and "View Profile" (again, or similar) but I can't do much with those two. Taping twitter does nothing and taping "View profile" results in message "Could not download tweets. Try again latter". Is it normal? Is it supposed to "work" like that? I use stock Tweeter app on stock 4.0.1
Any feedback appreciated