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i am trying to convert movies that are in avi format into mpeg4 or whatever format that is compatible with my htc tilt 2. i have always used videora and it usually works, but for some reason after converting it, i only get video, i get no audio at all. does anyone know why? or maybe you can recommend some better converting software. thanks.
Do a search for the program Format Factory
I use it to format every video I see on my phone
probowl2 said:
i am trying to convert movies that are in avi format into mpeg4 or whatever format that is compatible with my htc tilt 2. i have always used videora and it usually works, but for some reason after converting it, i only get video, i get no audio at all. does anyone know why? or maybe you can recommend some better converting software. thanks.
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If you use TCPMP you don't have to convert the avi files unless they are too large. If you need to convert the videos I would suggest using PocketDivx. I used that one with my original tilt and it works great. I don't really have to do that now since the tilt 2 has the larger resolution. I only use it for videos formatted much larger than the native resolution.
I had all but given up hope on this topic, but I guess I'll ask.
The Samsung Galaxy S will play Divx/Xvid/MKV natively without a conversion. This is probably one of the best features I have ever heard, as I have hoped for it to be in some sort of mobile device I already owned, such as a phone, psp, or some other multi-purpose device, instead of having to buy a standalone media player which tends to play many formats.
All videos I watch are encoded in these formats (well mkv encoded in x264, with mkv container). Is there, or will there ever be a way to play these on Android 2.1 or 2.2 for other models? I have an evo, and would be EC-FREAKING-STATIC if I could just drag and drop videos to watch on it. Especially with the hdmi out!! I love the evo, I really think it is great. This one feature is the icing on the cake for me.
If it cannot be done, can somebody just give me a brief description as to why? The way I see it, when you need to play these files on a pc, you just install a video codec to decode it. Isn't there some way it can be added?
Thanks to anyone who takes the time to answer this.
P.S.- For anyone who thinks conversion isn't a big deal, I agree, it really isn't. The thing is, a lot of the time I find out I need to be somewhere, have to leave right away, and don't have anything converted to watch. I can't tell you how many times I wish I had this feature!
atm there are not many options, at least as far as i know...
stock player (good baseline h264 playback)
rockplayer (good divx/xvid playback)
yxplayer (decent main/high h264 playback)
for everything else, i simply have "stream" folder on my PC, drop all other vids there, and play them using OrbLive while on the go.
Damn I have been living in the dark. Thanks!
just finished playing with rockplayer, and its pretty darn good
im actually waiting for something bad to happen, and then i
remember... I'm not using a windows mobile phone anymore.
gabemeyers said:
just finished playing with rockplayer, and its pretty darn good
im actually waiting for something bad to happen, and then i
remember... I'm not using a windows mobile phone anymore.
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lol, see now that's funny!
Wuzhenhua player maybe? I havent tried it out on the evo yet but it worked solidly on my other device.
Having owned an HD2 for 9 months and struggling to type on it, I decided to try the Touch Pro2 and bought a nice example on eBay. In terms of usability as a phone I find it way better that the HD2, the acoustics and volume are great, it’s comfortable to hold, and finally I can type properly. I also bought this phone for the TV-out that the HD2 lacks. However, the video playback is terrible!
I have been through the forums here, tried all the tweaks and fixes, tried every setting in TCPMP/Core, tried disabling Sense (which makes no “sense”) but still videos which play fine on the HD2 are barely playing at all on the TP2 - jerky, low frame rate. I don’t want to have to re-encode everything; I download DIVX TV episodes, around 350MB each, and just play them directly on the HD2. I realise the HD2 has a much faster processor, but I’m sure my old Diamond played these videos just fine too.
I have tried the latest stock HTC (unbranded) ROM that the phone came with, with Core Player, and also tried the latest Energy ROM with the built in TCPMP – no difference. All I see on the forums is that it’s a known problem with the TP2 and WM6.5. But I can’t believe that all the loyal TP2 users on this forum are just happy to accept the virtual lack of video playback capability on a phone like this.
Is there a fix, or am I going to have to put this great phone back on eBay and continue my quest for the perfect phone?
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i hear about this problem a lot. try converting the file format of the video to .avi or mp4.
personally i have no problem with video playback. havnt tried mkv yet but im not too hopefull on that one.
If you cant play it decend, then it's a rom problem. I use valkyre roms and I never had problems what so ever when I wanted to play a video.
So try that rom and see how it goes.
If i want to view a video on my TP2 i convert it with this tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
Works like a charm
Grtz, FeareX
I spent much of yesterday trying out different DVD/video conversion software and finally settled on one that does a great job of converting files into a format that plays well on the Tilt 2/TouchPro 2. I don't know why, but it appears this phone's version of WMP doesn't like MPGs or WMVs as much as it likes 3GP files. These files (in both *.3gp and *.3g2 format) play almost flawlessly and without artifacting, something neither MPGs or WMVs do on the Tilt 2. In the process of auditioning all these various programs, the best I found was Pavtube's Blu-ray Video Converter Ultimate. Don't let the name fool you, it does much more than just Blu-ray. In fact, it can handle almost anything you throw at it and the flexibility of output choices is amazing. Not only are there templates for just about any video/audio format you'd want, but they are editable, so you can change them to your needs and then save them as custom templates. I was hesitant about the $69 list price (the trial puts a watermark in the middle of the screen), but I did some searching and found a discount coupon online and got it for only $37. I have converted all 3 Matrix movies, the Lord of the Rings trilogy and a BD of the 2nd Narnia movie. I had the choice to preserve the theatre aspect ratio or go full screen and both look stunning on the Tilt 2 and play with barely a hiccup. I have some traveling coming up and wanted to take some movies on the road. This program was well worth the money and I spent hours trying others with varying degrees of success. The one free option (Freemake) is OK, but has nowhere near the customizability and its 3GP conversions do not play properly on the Tilt 2. The WMV conversions I did had artifacting issues with fast motion and the MPGs looked horrible and laggy. I wholeheartedly recommend this program from Pavtube. Here's a link to the discount I used.
http://software-coupon-everyday.com...o-converter-ultimate-42-discount-coupon-code/
BD conversion is a real-time process (yes, you need to have a BD reader), but DVD conversions take about 25 minutes for a 2 hour movie. The one BD movie I did yielded a 900mb file and the standard DVDs yielded about 500mb files. You can get them smaller, but quality will suffer a bit. I have a 16gb card, so no worries for me.
BTW, the serial number worked on both my desktop and laptop PC installations, so I can take it with me on the go.
I don't understand why you would do all this workarounds when all you need to do is flash a decend rom?
What workarounds? If you want to transfer DVD movies to the device you have to convert them somehow, and the software I recommended makes it possible. Not everyone wants to go through the hassle of flashing ROMs. Yeah, I know it can be easy, but the trial and error of finding a ROM that suits your needs, is stable and the chore of reinstalling all your tweaks and programs is a real pain. No thanks.
Hate to say it cuz I love my TiltII but IMHO it is that hardware acceleration of the video was not implemented in the driver by HTC just like the original Tilt which was a dog for playing video files as well. I have found that the HTC video player will play H264 mp4 files that are great looking and not jumpy but it cannot be that high of throughput.
Have you looked here for a discussion about the problems:
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619945
And try this cab/driver found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546522
I assume you've tried all the various settings within Coreplayer?
agrickard said:
Have you looked here for a discussion about the problems:
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619945
And try this cab/driver found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546522
I assume you've tried all the various settings within Coreplayer?
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Are you running Atom's or Neo's cab? After reading through all the related threads, seems like Neo's latest V3 cab has better performance and higher compatibility with the Tilt 2/TP2, but it's over 1mb compared to 80k. I assume this needs to be installed to system memory, not the SD card.
I installed Atom's cab and while it did speed up the box animation, I see no difference in any of my 3D games or in TF3D performance. I read where many are installing both Atom's and Neo's cabs and seeing improvement. I may try this, but I'd like to hear from others that have done so.
Have you tried overclocking your phone?
buru898 said:
Have you tried overclocking your phone?
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Yup. Running OCX at 710. Movies played fine even without that. 3D games are a little laggy, though. Just wondering if I need both 3D drivers to see the full benefit.
Before I start, let me clarify that this is about playback of stored videos files (avi, mp4, wmv, mov, etc), not recording frame rate or the playback of recorded videos from the phone. Searching yielded hundreds of results, but none of them fit the scope of my question as far as I could tell. If there is something out there, please link and excuse this question.
So, my question and issue is pretty straight forward: whenever I try to play video files I have (IE: downloaded mp4 files), I get really really poor frame rates. Poor meaning 7-13 frames per second.
So the video sucks, and plays in a fairly smooth slow motion. The sound is fine, causing the video to go out of sync, and once the audio timeline ends the video file closes. The built-in player won't even load them, but RockPlayer does. I think I tried xyplayer as well. I figure this is just a codec / software issue, but all lower resolution video files (same format) play fine, so it seems to be unrelated to the applications I'm using. 800x640 video files, no problem; 1280x720 video files, not gonna happen. The videos play fine on a computer, obviously, and my buddy's Windows Phone 7 plays them fine as well (Zune software).
Any ideas?
what bitrate are the videos that skip?
I don't have many on my phone right now, but one of them is 741Kbps, about one third larger than another video that plays perfectly fine, albeit at a lower resolution. Admittedly I know very little about video encoding and all of that.
What rom are you using?
Currently Burnt Droid (1.4), but I've had the same problem on other roms (sense). I recall having this issue on an AOSP rom once, but I can't say that with complete confidence.
Bump; is this really not an issue for people? I can try and grab a sample video if that helps? I figured this would be a more global thing, not just me. The main reason I need (or want) this to work is because all of my online class lectures are recorded in this format and being able to watch the lectures on the go would be extremely beneficial.
I can play a 4gb hd rip of avatar on my phone in rockplayer (hardware mode) with no skipping
please post a link to a vid your having problems with
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I can play a 4gb hd rip of avatar on my phone in rockplayer (hardware mode) with no skipping.
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Hmm, ok, so it took that sentence for me to realize I'm an idiot. I've tried hardware mode with every video file I have put on my phone (avi, mp4, wmv), but wasn't surprised when they didn't play-- if they did, couldn't I just use the stock video player?-- but my school files for example are .mp4, which should play, but I guess the system player doesn't support whatever encoding/bitrate these videos are made with? Does this mean I won't get this to work unless I re-encode / convert the files I have into a new mp4 the phone will support natively?
Excuse my ignorance on the issue; I guess my understanding of the application and android system is more limited than I initially thought.
**Just in case there are still those out there looking for the best methods for video file conversion/playback, HD, mkv, avi, divx, mpeg... I enjoy troubleshooting A/V hiccups for any who could use the help, don't have ALL the answers but it's fun for me and want to contribute all I can!
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With that said...
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http://www.f******k.com/WinXDVD?sk=app_208195102528120
replace the stars with the appropriate letters, duh...
dcxgod said:
With that said...
WinX HD Video Converter free for download today by liking their facebook page:
http://www.f******k.com/WinXDVD?sk=app_208195102528120
replace the stars with the appropriate letters, duh...
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Good lookin' out! Thanks for this! Another free alternative is Freemake Video Converter, it's the VLC Player of file converters with device presets preloaded.
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with this phone i even forgot the last time i converted/encoded anything... MX Video Player is simply the best and will play anything you throw at it up to 720p. 1080p plays smoothly as well but not always. oh, and multi-subtitles/multi-audio tracks are supported as wel. only issue i found with it is it won't display embedded bitmap "vob" subtitles (other subtitles, both mixed in and external play just fine)
as far as video conversion, i take the geeky approach. AviSynth + x264 + neroAacEnc. with proper settings you will get the best results, ever... seriously. if you're scarred of command line, use the MeGUI or Handbrake frontends. same encoders, different approach.
i've spent many years experimenting with various video encoders/compressors and from my experience i've concluded that regardless of what you're trying to accomplish, h264/aac codec combo will give you the best quality than any other codec out there. oh, and make sure to use mkv container. it's the most flexible of popular container formats.
lastly, if you just want an easy tool, use Sorenson Squeeze. very flexible, easy to use, has gpu acceleration, and gives quite impressive results. only downside is its hella expensive, that is if you're trying to stay legal
frifox said:
with this phone i even forgot the last time i converted/encoded anything... MX Video Player is simply the best and will play anything you throw at it up to 720p. 1080p plays smoothly as well but not always. oh, and multi-subtitles/multi-audio tracks are supported as wel. only issue i found with it is it won't display embedded bitmap "vob" subtitles (other subtitles, both mixed in and external play just fine)
as far as video conversion, i take the geeky approach. AviSynth + x264 + neroAacEnc. with proper settings you will get the best results, ever... seriously. if you're scarred of command line, use the MeGUI or Handbrake frontends. same encoders, different approach.
i've spent many years experimenting with various video encoders/compressors and from my experience i've concluded that regardless of what you're trying to accomplish, h264/aac codec combo will give you the best quality than any other codec out there. oh, and make sure to use mkv container. it's the most flexible of popular container formats.
lastly, if you just want an easy tool, use Sorenson Squeeze. very flexible, easy to use, has gpu acceleration, and gives quite impressive results. only downside is its hella expensive, that is if you're trying to stay legal
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Very true, our device will typically play most formats stock without a complaint. I mostly set this thread in motion for our fellow xda'ers who were having trouble finding options to overcome a single file size limitation without splitting. Your info was spot on my man.. well said!
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http://www.mirovideoconverter.com/
That is a very simple, no options (other than picking the phone model) encoder. I don't know off hand that phone in its list has similar resolution with our phone (800x480 I think) but it works without a fuss. It doesn't do batch, only one at a time. I don't know if it's 2 pass or not. My preference is handbrake. If you use something like that, check in the settings that CABAC is off. That is a feature that will make smaller files but it will need more cpu to decode during playback. Off setting has larger file sizes but it's less cpu intensive during playback. I haven't made a comparison between on and off but I don't think off makes the file really huge. If you're doing DVD resolution encodes, dual pass encoding with video bitrate of 2000 is sufficient with no noticeable difference in artifacting from 2500.
Another suggestion is with the video the phone camcorder makes. It's bigger than it needs to be file size wise. Run it through handbrake with default settings, only changing CABAC to off, and perspective (screen) to none. That makes a 1080 2 gig 20 minute video down to about 300mb and I don't see the difference in video quality.
patrick_1 said:
Another free alternative is Freemake Video Converter, it's the VLC Player of file converters with device presets preloaded.
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Thanks for this heads up, but I have a question. I was converting a DVD to test this one out, and it seems to work flawlessly so far, but I did notice if I choose to convert to Android 800x480 with the defaults everywhere else, I wind up with files around 1.25GB. Is there a particular set of settings I can use to shrink that size or a way to take the mp4 files and reduce their size? I'm used to mp4s being ~300 - 500MB, so just wondering if there is a way to set it up I'm not seeing.
I use Hand brake without issue on my epic touch. Just throwing out another program for everyone to try.
darthstewie said:
Thanks for this heads up, but I have a question. I was converting a DVD to test this one out, and it seems to work flawlessly so far, but I did notice if I choose to convert to Android 800x480 with the defaults everywhere else, I wind up with files around 1.25GB. Is there a particular set of settings I can use to shrink that size or a way to take the mp4 files and reduce their size? I'm used to mp4s being ~300 - 500MB, so just wondering if there is a way to set it up I'm not seeing.
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Welcome! Yeah you can change a few things, the bit rate and format play a lot in the over all file size. Mp4 will compress more as apposed to avi. The ps3 setting is a useful one for that. You can click on each of the presets setting and get an overview of the container/codec/bit rate/frame rate that are being used to give you an idea.
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Thanks again. I found in the dialog box that allows me to rename the mp4 I can also limit the maximum size of the file. It automagically changes the bitrate that way, and I have much more manageable files now.
darthstewie said:
Thanks again. I found in the dialog box that allows me to rename the mp4 I can also limit the maximum size of the file. It automagically changes the bitrate that way, and I have much more manageable files now.
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Nice! Glad it's working for you! BTW..."darthstewie" damn I wish I'd thought of that as a username!!
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