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oops - screwed up rom upgrade nandroid restore

hi all,
so I saw that unrevoked3 is out and read that it makes installing other ROM's really easy.
so I installed the windows hboot driver and unrevoked3 automatically installed ClockworkMod 2.5.0.1
i didn't really know what todo next so I did a nandroid backup... that took a while, so I assumed it had backedup everything (old rom + apps + user settings etc)
anyways then I rebooted back into my stock ROM and copied opendesire 2.2 onto the SD.
then I rebooted into ClockworkMod and installed the opendesire2.2.zip
then I tried booting normally and it sort of sat on the initial screen for a long while, so I rebooted back into CWM and did a wipe/factory reset.
then rebooted again.
this time it loaded up opendesire fine.
after playing around for a bit I wanted to go back to my old rom.
so i rebooted into CWM and just did a nandroid restore...
now when I boot into my old ROM I am missing all my apps.
the home screens are blank
there is a new "super user privs" app
various other things are missing.
so what did I do wrong?
doesn't nandroid backup everything?
Cheers
D.

I forgot to say, I havn't rooted the phone - I dont know if that makes a difference... I actually thought the unrevoked thing was going todo more that just install a different debug boot loader...

Hi, got my first andriod, the desire, only 6 weeks ago so still a n00b myself! Hopefully someone can answer better and correct my mistakes but here goes:
With Linux you have to be a root (or superuser) to access, modify, execute, etc any and all files. Our Desires, with stock ROMS, do not allow us to do these things - hence we need to 'root' our phones.
I think the internal memory of the phones has two parts - one holds the ROM (the operating system) and the other is a 'cache' which holds user/system info relevant to the ROM. The cache is specific to the ROM which is why if you change from say the stock ROM to opendesire you need to wipe the cache. However, if you upgrade the ROM, eg opendesire 2.1 to opendesire 2.2 you do not need to wipe the cache.
To be able to access the part of the phone which holds both the ROM and the cache you need to be root/superuser. If unrevoked worked without errors and you have been able to change ROMS (i recommend ROM manager) then you have 'rooted' your phone.
When ROM manager asks if you wish to back up your ROM I think it only backs up the cache, not the ROM itself, as that would already be on your SD card as a .zip file.
If you wish to go back to stock I think you need to download stock ROM, use ROM manager to install it, then go back to ROM manager and use the backup/restore option and restore your initial backed up cache.
Hope this helps a little!

tephra said:
I forgot to say, I havn't rooted the phone - I dont know if that makes a difference... I actually thought the unrevoked thing was going todo more that just install a different debug boot loader...
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You rooted the phone when you ran Unrevoked3, that's why you have superuser permissions.
It doesn't install a different boot loader, it installs a new recovery which allows you to easily flash custom roms without having to use fake-flash.
Something must have gone wrong during your nandroid backup.

ok i understand about the root bit and also the recovery bit now - thanks
my nandriod backup folder has:
boot.img
cache.img
data.img
nandroid.md5
recovery.img
system.img
one thing, is this desire is a telstra branded phone. Now i have read that i might require a goldcard.
could this be causing the problems I am seeing?
last night I loaded the original RUU on, now I will see if the nandroid restore fixes my apps and stuff...
edit - hrmm the original RUU has removed CWM recovery... i will load up unrevoked3 again...

tephra said:
ok i understand about the root bit and also the recovery bit now - thanks
my nandriod backup folder has:
boot.img
cache.img
data.img
nandroid.md5
recovery.img
system.img
one thing, is this desire is a telstra branded phone. Now i have read that i might require a goldcard.
could this be causing the problems I am seeing?
last night I loaded the original RUU on, now I will see if the nandroid restore fixes my apps and stuff...
edit - hrmm the original RUU has removed CWM recovery... i will load up unrevoked3 again...
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You shouldn't need a goldcard with ClockworkMod, I didn't need one for my branded Desire.

Flashing nandroid img/zip files causes clockwork recovery to just hang

So I've rooted my phone, got the latest defy clock work recovery thats in the clockwork thread, I've booted into recovery mode and made a backup.
Now I've downloaded a 3.4.3-11 zipped nandroid backup with the img files etc, but when I try installing from them it just sits there doing nothing.
The progress bar stops animating and it looks as if its hung, I left it for 15 minutes and nothing happened so I pulled the battery, phone restarts and boots fine.
I've tried multiple images and they all cause clockwork recovery to hang when attempting to install them.
Can anyone suggest what I might be doing wrong?
Using everything listed in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12122439&postcount=10
from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993402
edit: If it toggle verification on it says this
E:signature verifications failed
installation aborted
what should I do?

no one ever had this issue before?

Found someone else who also has this problem.
can anyone out there help ?

kind of confused here... What's hanging, CWM? or RSD? You said that flashing SBF causes clockwork to hang.....Thing is..... clockwork don't flash SBF's.
You need RSD for SBF's, clockwork will restore nandroid or apply unsigned .zip updates among many other things but no SBF

zyxwvut said:
kind of confused here... What's hanging, CWM? or RSD? You said that flashing SBF causes clockwork to hang.....Thing is..... clockwork don't flash SBF's.
You need RSD for SBF's, clockwork will restore nandroid or apply unsigned .zip updates among many other things but no SBF
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Sorry I meant nandroid zip files with the .img files inside of it, not sbf.
So yes clockwork hangs when trying to install zip file with img files in it.
What would cause this to happen and how should I rectify it? I would post in the clockwork thread but I dont have enough posts.

The issue was I was trying to apply an update.zip when what I wanted to do was restore a nandroid backup, being as it didn't give me the option to select any folder other than the clockwork folder I got confused.
Followed these instructions and all is well
the method i could understand:
maybe wrong, i'm warning you..
maybe you could ask someone who real capable of this.
i'm just trying to answer..
Preparing files needed, needed when you want to go back to 2.51
-download SBF of your stock (2.51)
-got root, install custom recovery, restart.
-when phone is ready go to custom recovery app, and install recovery then reboot.
-and then create nandroid backup from custom recovery.
Upgrading froyo with downgrade-ability
-download fixed SBF and nandroid backup of this froyo version.
-from custom recovery, wipe all cache.
-and then restore nandroid backup of the froyo rom
-restart and IMMEDIATELY go to bootloader. immediately press and hold VOL.UP+POWER after you press restart system on custom recovery
-on bootloader, flash the fixed SBF of that froyo rom with RSD Lite 4.9, and make sure you already download motorola driver...
Downgrading:
if you want to go back to 2.51,
-got root, install custom recovery, restart.
-go to custom recovery, and then RESTORE your 2.51 nandroid backup
-restart and IMMEDIATELY go to bootloader. immediately press and hold VOL.UP+POWER after you press restart system on custom recovery
-on bootloader, flash the fixed SBF of your stock 2.51.
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maybe just another issue pertaining the restoring of nandroid backup. what is the issue if i get a md5 sum mismatch? i did all the thing, flashed sbf, root, wipe and when goes to restore, it just have the md5 sum mismatch. i'm using kb7sqi recovery

Have u checked if usb debugging is off? After rooting u should disable it.
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what are you doing to cause md5 mismatch??? You go into recovery and suddenly you are greeted with md5 mismatch or is it when you are trying to restore a nandroid? Or is it while applying an update?... Anyhow, if it's wile restoring a nandroid, be sure that a nandroid.MD5 file is included with the package you downloaded. If not you could try advanced restore or find a package with a md5 file or recalculate md5 yourself

roland_harrison said:
The issue was I was trying to apply an update.zip when what I wanted to do was restore a nandroid backup, being as it didn't give me the option to select any folder other than the clockwork folder I got confused.
Followed these instructions and all is well
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Glad you got it sorted.... I have flashed almost every rom out there. Many many many sbf's. I have bootlooped a few times while experimenting, but always bring it back from the dead. These phones are honestly pretty resilient to user error. As long as the instructions for flashing a particular rom are followed exactly as instructed.. It ALWAYS works. When things go bad boot into stock recovery, wipe, pull battery, hold vol+ while inserting battery to get into bootloader then flash an appropriate sbf and youre back

[Q] n00b trying to nandoid

hi xda
first post, 2 week old first android phone (galaxy s GT-I9000).
I've just rooted my phone using super one click. im always reading that i HAVE to perform a nandroid backup before i do ANYTHING after i've rooted my device.
When i google "how to nandroid", i just get "get into recovery mode, select 'nandroid backup'.
But there isn't any back up options, only the standard 4 options: reboot, apply update, wipe data/facotry reset and wipe cache.
2 questions:
1) what must i do after rooting to make the nandroid option available? Surely doing THAT is doing something, therefore putting my phone at risk?
and thus,
2) what can i exactly do after rooting, before performing a nandroid? one click lag fix? normal use? installing a ROM? My understanding is that the nandroid backup is in case installing a ROM goes wrong, but then again a lot of the 'how tos' say you should instal clockworkmod, or rom manager before making a nandroid.
Please shed light.
Jon Alex
South Africa

You need a custom recovery like cwm installed to do a backup and for flashing ROMs. Whether you choose to do so is up to you, but there are advantages to being rooted either way i.e Apps that require root access to work.

thanks for your reply - please clear something up for me...
Everything i read says do a nandroid before you flash anything, but then it sounds like you have to flash a recovery ROM in order to do a nandroid?
Please let me know
1) how to install cwm recovery ROM and
2) what can go wrong? (since i'm doing this before making a nandroid)
3) can i install the recovery ROM before i root?

okay
at the moment i've got this far:
rooted? check. (super1click)
rom manager installed? check.
problem:
when i click flash clockworkrecovery ROM in ROM manager, it prompts me to choose my model (Galaxy I9000 International). Then it prompts me to allow poweruser functions, which i do. Then it saus something to the effect of "ClockworkRecovery ROM has been downloaded!"
note: not flashed, or installed, downloaded.
That finished the 'flashing' process. Now, if i select back up, it boots into recovery mode, but its still running the stock android recovery (2e), without any option to perform a nandroid backup!
How the hell do i do this? aargh.
help would be apprciated.

Go back into Rom Manager and again select install CWM and then backup current ROM. (sometimes it just needs doing again).
While you are using a stock ROM the stock Recovery will reassert itself on every boot, so having to flash CWM multiple times is not uncommon. Of course, this behaviour stops if you flash a custom ROM.

I've flashed it 3 times.. still no cwm recovery Rom... how many timed should I do this before trying something else, and what is that something else?

Just flashed another 3 times. Still nothing... please help!

THIS is the correct section for your device. I'm sure you'll find the answers you need there.
Good luck.

[Q] Help please

Hi, I have two other threads on this problem but no answers yet - so sorry for cluttering up the forum. I moved one of my system files by accident and my phone will not start. I can access the bootloader and the recovery by using the hard keys.
It looks like I can do a factory reset thru recovery which will be my last resort. The recovery menu also has an option to "apply sdcard:update.zip". What does this do? Can I plop one of my recent backups into a folder on the sdcard and restore that way?
If I do need to reset is it better to do it through this Recovery utility or should I use RSD Lite? Which SBF is best for a US Defy that had the 2.2 OTA update?
I think I just need to push my original system file (I DO have the original on my PC) back to the phone. I have SDK and know how to do simple commands but I can not get SDK or ADB to recognize my device.
Many thanks in advance!

Wipe/Factory reset won't recover removed system files. It just clears the data partition.
Which system files had you removed? If you had removed anything in the pds folder, you probably have to send it back to factory. If not, just flash any compatibile 2.2 sbf (not China/Korea) with rsdlite should recover the phone.

Thanks. I messed up the build.prop file which sits in the system folder. I was trying to get Netflix to work. Well, I could not get Netflix to work and I also lost Swype so I tried to put my original build.prop file in the folder. Whatever I did, I did it wrong because the phone flashes the motorola logo then goes to a very dimly lit blank screen.
So perhaps the best solution is to flash a sbf then reinstall the clockwork recovery thing and then restore my backup (which had all my apps) etc.
Is there anyway to just push that one file back on to my phone?
Thanks for your fast reply!

If you've installed the bootmenu you can easily put that file back using ADB. However if you don't have access to bootmenu OR custom recovery you can't do that OR put it back via update.zip.
If you were on the US official 2.2 Just flash the 3.6.360 sbf from here http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umt...1028.0R_JORDANTMO_P022_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz
then just do the official update OTA then root, install bootmenu, restore whatever backups you have

Thanks y'all. I ended up flashing a sbf via RSD Lite. At first, I was getting the message about flash fail... no initialization file... I was using version 4.5. I then saw a later version 4.9 and that worked. I was starting to sweat!
After the flash, I ran Superoneclick again. Then I installed the DefyRecovery and then I restored my backup (BTW is the backup that Defy Recovery does still called a nandroid?).
Phew! Everything is just fine. So, for the future, I should install the bootmenu?
I am not sure I will be so adventurous but this whole journey began with trying to get Netflix to work. *Sheepish smile*
Thanks so much!

I would HIGHLY recommend installing bootmenu. If you ever flash an SBF it wipes out the bootmenu but if you encounter disaster like you just did....... It's a life saver for sure!

Note 2 backup IMEI/NVRAM

Hi, recently rooted my phone and tryimg to backup everything before i install a rom but when trying to back up the IMEI/NVRAM MTK droid tools gives me the errors
"ERROR : --- TotalBytesPerChunk Not Found. Set default Page/Spare=2048/64 !!! --- Unknown ROM structure, backup NOT possible! "
I've tried searching for solutions which have suggested
* Install Busybox- tried but seen no change.
* Download MTK droid tools from a different source- tried this too
* Slot in an SD card with sufficient space into the phone- i have enough space on my sd
* When prompted for Super User permissions on the phone and PC, select Ok or Grant - done.
I want to backup as much as possible before installing a new rom but not sure how to get by this issue/error. Any help would be appreciated thanks.

Any suggestions thanks? Currently I understand the error unknown rom structure occurs because the phone isnt a mtk phone of which it is and ive tried downloading mtk droid tools from a different source with the same errors occuring.
When i rooted my phone I used a method that attempted to install cwm but when I try to boot into it the samsung logo just jumps around the screen. Would this have anything to do with the errors?
Sorry for the amount of questions.

Note2mk said:
Any suggestions thanks? Currently I understand the error unknown rom structure occurs because the phone isnt a mtk phone of which it is and ive tried downloading mtk droid tools from a different source with the same errors occuring.
When i rooted my phone I used a method that attempted to install cwm but when I try to boot into it the samsung logo just jumps around the screen. Would this have anything to do with the errors?
Sorry for the amount of questions.
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the most important is EFS backup, which can be done with apk from play store. Other things you can backup with titanium backup, then flash custom recovery i.e. TWRP and do full backup in recovery. That's all you need. everything else you can restore with stock rom

yaro666 said:
the most important is EFS backup, which can be done with apk from play store. Other things you can backup with titanium backup, then flash custom recovery i.e. TWRP and do full backup in recovery. That's all you need. everything else you can restore with stock rom
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Thanks for your reply. I just backed up the EFS using EFS professional using a tutorial I read on here. Also used titanium backup aswell. What method would you recommend flashing TWRP or CWM? Would flashing any of those interfere with the currently attempted installation of CWM that wont boot?

Note2mk said:
Thanks for your reply. I just backed up the EFS using EFS professional using a tutorial I read on here. Also used titanium backup aswell. What method would you recommend flashing TWRP or CWM? Would flashing any of those interfere with the currently attempted installation of CWM that wont boot?
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flash TWRP for your model i.e. N7100, N7105, etc. using Odin 3.10.7. Do not repartition and your phone would be ok. There are guides and even movies on youtube how to use Odin