I've tested this and it works. I only have a class 2 SDcard, so my testing shows it's really slow, a faster card would probably help.
With just this class 2 SD card, the boot-from-sd process is really only useful to see if the ROM being tested will straight-up brick your device or not.
Edit!
A class 6 card works fabulous! I'm posting from a tweaked version of mmarz's port of ath3nos' port of cm7 running from my brand-new class 6 card right now.
This process is hacked together from multiple other devices' howtos here on xda, sorry I don't know who to credit for the bits and parts. All of it is pretty generic, actually, and might well be applicable to other devices when tried as a whole.
For the moment, I'm only posting a brief skeleton how-to without specific walkthroughs for the steps, and I don't really want to upload many files until more of the bugs are swatted.
The following info should be enough for you, the savvy dev, to put the ROM of your choice on your SD card and boot it (or watch it fail to boot) without risk of bricking your device!
noobs, don't you dare, bricking is always a risk if you don't know your way around fastboot and adb!
Of course, savvy dev or not, a fresh nandroid backup is MANDATORY before hacking at your phone like this.
Standard disclaimer:
There is always a possibility of bricking your phone when messing with adb and fastboot.
If you're not willing to take that risk, don't try this at home (or at work, or school....)
Here goes:
The basic plan I followed was:
1) make and format 3 extra ext2 partitions after the default fat32 on the SD card, in this order: data (at least 180Mb) , system (170Mb to match stock), and cache (102Mb stock).
2) split up the boot.img from your chosen ROM so you can mod the ramdisk.
edit: turns out this next step in the quote is not required, there is an easier way.
A nifty command called devwait for init.rc
3) compile a modified init, adding a "pause (5);" after the ANDROID text. It goes on line 569 in the gingerbread init.c from a recent repo of google source.
use the newly compiled init in place of the init from the ramdisk.
since getting the android source uses so much time and bandwidth, I'm being nice and attaching a modified gingerbread init. If you test it with a froyo ROM and it doesn't work, don't blame me. If it does work with froyo ROMS, let me know!
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3) change your init.rc from the ramdisk as follows:
replace the "mount yaffs2 [email protected] /system" , cache, and data lines with
Code:
devwait /dev/block/mmcblk0p3
mount ext2 /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 /system nodev noatime nodiratime
mount ext2 /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 /system nodev noatime nodiratime ro
devwait /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
mount ext2 /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data nodev nosuid noatime nodiratime
devwait /dev/block/mmcblk0p4
mount ext2 /dev/block/mmcblk0p4 /cache nodev nosuid noatime nodiratime
be sure to comment out any other mounts which go to /system anywhere, like the "mount squashfs [email protected]/system/blahblah/blah.sqf /blah/blah" lines in the aospCmod init.rc
4) repack your boot.img, with the correct cmdline ("mem=477M console=ttyMSM2,115200n8 androidboot.hardware=thunderc" works,) etc.
5) prepare the ext2 /system partition with your target ROM /system files.
How to load the ROM:
steps a) to f) done on your PC. step g) is done on the phone.
a) Unzip the ROM on your PC, to get at the files to copy to the new /system directory in adb, and allow you to modify the updater-script.
b) Mod that ./META-INF/com/google/android/updater-script as follows:
As an example, I removed the following from the aospCmodOV-5-16-11 updater-script:
everything except the "ui_print" "symlink" and "set_perm" lines, including the "unmount" line at the end of the script.
I thinned it down because the update-binary wants to write to MTD partition for /system, and I didn't want or need that to happen.
I did need it to install the symlinks and permissions, though.
Without those, the keyboards kept FCing, and the phone couldn't connect to the network.
c) rezip the ROM with the modified updater-script.
d) boot phone into recovery and connect to PC with cable.
e) adb push or otherwise copy the modified ROM.zip to your sdcard.
f) next, copy /system from the unzipped ROM to the new partition with adb
Code:
adb shell
mount -t ext2 /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 /system
exit
adb push /path/to/unzipped/ROM/system /system
g) on phone, in recovery: install .zip from sdcard
select the new ROM.zip you reassembled and pushed to the SD card
select yes, you really want to install the .zip
this should write the /system symlinks and permissions to the new /system partition.
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6) back on your PC, still connected to phone with cable in recovery;
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot boot /path/to/boot.img
Step 6 is important!
this will boot from your modified boot.img without actually flashing it into the phone's NAND, so a reboot (or restart after battery pull in case of issues) just goes to your regular installed ROM in the phone.
That's about it for now. It's pretty much a hack as yet, but it's cool in a geeky way to be able to do this.
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Thanks! This should be very helpful to devs and those of us who are adventurous with our phones!
Very interesting concept, I'd love to see how many uses this could have!
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with a class 6 card, ath3nos/blarf cm7 runs great off sd.
even feels a little snappier than running from the phone mtd partitions.
I must benchmark soon to verify.
I'm really surprised no-one seems interested, I guess this is too old-hat, like a debian chroot
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with a class 6 card, ath3nos/blarf cm7 runs great off sd.
even feels a little snappier than running from the phone mtd partitions.
I must benchmark soon to verify.
I'm really surprised no-one seems interested, I guess this is too old-hat, like a debian chroot
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This is good work, but I think people require a bit more hand holding. How about publishing some of the modded files?
I personally still have problems recompiling a ramdisk.
mmarz said:
This is good work, but I think people require a bit more hand holding. How about publishing some of the modded files?
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I can post files one rom at a time, because the ramdisk and kernel will be a bit different for each rom, and so will the permission/symlink updater-script.
first, I'll have to get rom-dev permission, because they get modded, and also cause it's nice to have permission.
I personally still have problems recompiling a ramdisk.
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fastboot provides a fantastic shortcut for that, if you cpio-gzip the ramdisk together after editing it to your specs
from http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php
in a command line linux shell, from the directory containing your unpacked ramdisk,
Code:
find . | cpio -o -H newc | gzip > ../newramdisk.cpio.gz
will put newramdisk.cpio.gz in the directory above the one containing your ramdisk
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fastboot can make the boot.img for you and either dump it into the phone (assuming your shell current directory contains your kernel (zImage) and ramdisk (newramdisk.cpio.gz))
Code:
fastboot -c "mem=477M console=ttyMSM2,115200n8 androidboot.hardware=thunderc" flash:raw boot zImage newramdisk.cpio.gz
or boot your phone from the assembled image without actually flashing it in.
Code:
fastboot -c "mem=477M console=ttyMSM2,115200n8 androidboot.hardware=thunderc" boot zImage newramdisk.cpio.gz
those fastboot lines assume an optimus v (or s.)
looking at all the great work you've posted on the forums, I'm surprised you have trouble handling anything to do with these phones!
I'm slowly working up to a modded recovery to install-to-sd directly and avoid all this hacking.
Nice, thanks for that. I had no idea fastboot could do that.
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Nice, thanks for that. I had no idea fastboot could do that.
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happy to share.
I only learned fastboot could do that when I seriously started in kernel testing after finally getting one to compile without errors. I didn't feel like bricking my phone to test the fresh kernel, and researching fastboot showed me its capabilities... I could've just typed fastboot with no arguments and that makes it list its parameters.
it's really helpful for this mod, because you can just reboot into your stock rom without having to reflash anything.
plus it's nice to just tweak the ramdisk and let fastboot do the work making a new boot.img for you when testing weird stuff like this.
bigsupersquid said:
happy to share.
I only learned fastboot could do that when I seriously started in kernel testing after finally getting one to compile without errors. I didn't feel like bricking my phone to test the fresh kernel, and researching fastboot showed me its capabilities... I could've just typed fastboot with no arguments and that makes it list its parameters.
it's really helpful for this mod, because you can just reboot into your stock rom without having to reflash anything.
plus it's nice to just tweak the ramdisk and let fastboot do the work making a new boot.img for you when testing weird stuff like this.
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Very cool i loved this idea when it was executed in a way over at Ubuntdroid for the intercept when i was doing alpha testing. Very convenient for many of the scarier tests when i wanted to keep my existing system intact. The big difference was that on the intercept the bootable partitions were written into the kernel. Downside you couldn't use it to test kernels but could switch kernels from the phone and flip-flop between completely isolated systems on the go without a computer. Which was great when i wanted to test a new ROM on the way to work but i needed my phone when i got there and had to have a painless method of switching to my usual running system. So i'd flash a "non SD" kernel and i was back up and running in just a minute or so.
I'm excited to play with this when i have some free time.
Thanks dude!
you could easily use an update.zip for each of the sd-boot and regular phone boot.img files and swap between working systems with those in recovery.
before getting the fast sd card, I was looking at this more as for testing foreign roms than two-system operation, but now I see that would work too.
for a second-system option I was looking at a market-enabled rom on sd since I don't use g-apps on my daily driver.
note: the GB rom I'm running on won't 'see' a card with more than four partitions properly, and won't mount the vfat partition with vold, although you can manually mount and access the first four partitions including the vfat. android just won't admit it's there. and I couldn't get at a fifth partition through the phone os, even though my pc could see it fine (to get 5 partitions I had to use an extended partition to contain most of the virtual partitions)
android could read virtual partitions in an extended partition just fine as long as the total number on the card didn't exceed four.
I learned a neat trick today.
going through the init.rc from the stock rom, I noticed a section at the beginning which was labeled 'on emmc' which would imply running from a card if the device hardware lacked nand flash memory.
I'd read on xda while researching this concept of boot-from-sd about an unspecified wait-for-device command in init.rc, but most of the info I've gotten on init scripting language has come from picking apart init scripts, as google has not documented the available commands very well.
long story short, I tried using devwait with the regular init and it worked just fine to mount the ext partitions. yay!
first post edited to reflect the improved method.
I've also been testing a recovery mod. if recovery.fstab is modified in the recovery ramdisk (or a fakeflash recovery) then the recovery will copy a tweaked rom.zip to the ext /system partition with some minimal modifications to the updater-script and a few commands in the adb shell.
the recovery with the modded recovery.fstab can also back up from and restore to the sdcard ext /data and /system partitions.
I will update the first post with more specific instructions as I hammer them into something consistent.
soon I'll be ready to release a modded fakeflash recovery to make experimentation easier, as well.
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Hey Devs,
As you may have noticed, I recently released a ROM with 276 MB free space on /data.
I accomplished this by using the MTD hack discovered by firerat and lbcoder.
It changes the kernel cmdline and includes addresses where the partitions are located.
This way, we are able to change the sizes.
That's exactly what I did.
The bad thing is that you need a recovery with a cmdline, which matches the ROM's boot.img's one!
So, a user needs to flash a recovery first and can then flash the ROM after a reboot into the new recovery.
Now, if the user wants to change his ROM to something else, he will need to revert the recovery.
It would be a lot easier if some other developers here would be interested in the MTD hack, so there is no need to revert.
I hope that some other developers will jump on the bandwagon now.
Here is the command I use for creating boot.img's, with modified partition sizes:
Code:
mkbootimg --kernel kernel --ramdisk ramdisk --cmdline 'mtdparts=msm_nand:[email protected](misc),[email protected](recovery),[email protected](boot),[email protected](system),[email protected](cache),[email protected](userdata)' -o boot.img --base 0x19200000
This reduces the /cache partition to 4 MB and makes /data as big as possible (the space which is left).
Now, the Market would normally fail to download huge APKs, because /cache is so small.
The problem can be easily solved by symlinking /cache to /data/cache and mounting the native cache partition on /dev/cache.
This can be done even without modifying the ramdisk, just do it in a script which runs before the Android frameworks start, like a2sd scripts.
Here are the necessary commands:
Code:
mount -o rw,remount /
umount /cache
rm -rf /cache
mkdir /data/cache
ln -s /data/cache /cache
mkdir /dev/cache
mount /dev/block/mtdblock4 /dev/cache
chmod 777 /data/cache
mount -o ro,remount /
Regarding the recovery:
Klothius from the Sapphire section created an update.zip which automatically patches the current recovery to use the provided cmdline.
You can find it here and include it in your instructions:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FY6CBAEE
I hope this little documentation will help you and will make you interested in doing this for your ROM.
Nice work. We'll look at implementing this into the next FroydVillain release. My only reservation would be keeping a wee bit more space on /cache than 4MB since our OTA app uses it. We could always hack it to use a dir on /data I suppose.
Hacre said:
Nice work. We'll look at implementing this into the next FroydVillain release. My only reservation would be keeping a wee bit more space on /cache than 4MB since our OTA app uses it. We could always hack it to use a dir on /data I suppose.
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Yea, that would be better.. The whole purpose of this thread is to make things more compatible, means same cmdline Also you wll need to write the instructions for the recovery to /dev/cache then, keep that in mind
I will also add the RecoveryMod and an explanation in the documentation now.
I think the limitation of needing to switch recovery when changing ROMs is quite bothersome. Is there anyway we can get a recovery which supports both modes?
erasmux said:
I think the limitation of needing to switch recovery when changing ROMs is quite bothersome. Is there anyway we can get a recovery which supports both modes?
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Sure, it can be done, but that would take a looot of work!
maxisma said:
Sure, it can be done, but that would take a looot of work!
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More than I think it would be worth, to be honest. It'd make more sense for all the ROM developers to pull together on this and just make it a fact that we're giving more space to data, since it also eliminates the need to create fancy hacks moving dalvik to cache or to sdcard or splitting it between 2-3 file systems to cater for people who like to have the entire Android Market on their phone.
This has my/Villain's full support Maxisma, it makes perfect sense. Might I suggest you PM the other ROM developers here, or at least the popular ones like Fusion etc, and refer them to this thread so we can all work together on it.
Now that it's safe to assume that HTC have pretty much ditched the Hero, it makes sense for us to fix/improve -everything- including partition layout. There is a lot of wasted space in /cache that only gets used if a ROM developer starts fudging about with where dalvik lives, but /cache isn't quite big enough to completely migrate dalvik cache to for people who like to have a lot of apps.
Is there any more work on this? :d
shinyfong said:
Is there any more work on this? :d
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I believe maxisma stopped work on it due to it breaking something or causing something not to work. I think he mentioned it in his Rom thread...
pulser_g2 said:
I believe maxisma stopped work on it due to it breaking something or causing something not to work. I think he mentioned it in his Rom thread...
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It was me who broke it ;-) I accdidentally booted with a different mtd layout and thus killed all my data.
This method is perfectly fine though.
But I switched to a Nexus and I don't have a Hero anymore.
WARNING:
Use this on your own risk! I will not be held responsible for any failure that might be caused by using this.
"How should I know if it works? That's what beta testers are for. I only coded it."
- Linus Torvalds
What:
Yet another attempt at breaking free from RFS on the SGS phone (ie, lagfix), for Eclair, Froyo, and hopefully Gingerbread...
Which:
Supported devices are I9000 ATM. Theoretically it should work on all SGS variants, but since I only have I9000 to test on, I can't confirm this. I'd appreciate if other model owners will give it a try and report back.
Why:
KISS. I don't want to compile my own kernel or use a specific kernel (see voodoo) for my lagfix. I'd like to have a lagfix for ANY kernel out there.
z4mod is the 1st attempt in achieving that.
Another issue is standards. We don't need multiple lagfixes, all doing the same thing. One method, easy to customize and implement - thats the way to go.
How:
1. Use the online z4mod patcher to patch your kernel.
2. Download and apply one of the following update.zip files to convert your /data partition to the filesystem of your choice.
z4mod update.zip variants:
z4mod.ext2.update.zip - convert to ext2 - works on ALL kernels.
z4mod.ext3.update.zip - convert to ext3 - works only on modified kernel which supports ext3.
z4mod.ext4.update.zip - convert to ext4 - works only on modified kernel which supports ext4.
z4mod.auto.update.zip - automatically find which fs are supported by the kernel and convert to best suited - works on ALL kernels.
z4mod.rfs.update.zip - convert back to RFS - works on ALL kernels..
These update.zip files can be applied only to kernels which has been patched with z4build - a shell script which patches zImage to allow the init scripts additional non-RFS mount to each RFS partition, or with our online z4mod patcher. If the ROM you wish to install wasn't originally patched with z4build already, you can run z4build yourself on the zImage from the ROM package and put the patched zImage back to the ROM package for flashing, or use the online z4mod patcher to do it for you. It is that easy.
[NOTE:] Kernels (zImage) patched by z4build supports both mounts - RFS and non-RFS. So it doesn't change anything for users who doesn't apply z4mod.
You can also patch your z4mod scripts to enhance it's functionality, add more filesystems support, etc.
Although z4mod allows converting all the partitions from RFS to ext2/3/4, our update.zip files only convert /data - since this is ment for the 'masses'. If you feel brave enough, feel free to experiment with converting more partitions. All the sources are well documented.
Who:
z4ziggy, aka Elia Yehuda.
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Original post [for reference]:
Although this is a half-baked project and far from complete, im introducing it to the xda community so i might get more ideas, and fix/implement more functionality, as the project advances.
z4mod is the 1st step in breaking free from RFS death grip - or at least tries to achieve this. The project adds ext3 support to a given zImage's init scripts, and creates update.zip for converting all RFS partitions and flash the patched zImage.
...thats the idea anyway.
ext4 support is planned for future official release. for testings purposes ext3 is sufficient.
sources and information can be found on my blog here: http://z4ziggy.wordpress.com
And of course, I'm not the only one interested in your measurements and conclusions
This looks really awesome, I'm loving it!
As far as the kernel patch goes, though:
Does the same kernel patch work for both 2.1 and 2.2 kernels? They seem pretty different.
Instead of requiring a linux box to patch the kernel, do you see any problems with doing the actual patching on the stock device itself? I didn't see anything in the script that should make this too difficult.
At any rate, this looks like The Solution.
love the work all 3 of you are doing with the file system on the i9000!
awesome job.
the patch is for the initscripts only - doesn't mind which kernel version. im doing my testings on Froyo 2.2 but patching should work the same on 2.1 scripts.
I hope to have some time later tonight to update the updater-script to follow all RFS partitions, and test it. ATM it works with my /cache partition only since its easy for testings (or "crashes" should i say? ).
i will update soon.
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regarding the linux part - no can do. We patch the initramfs scripts (which resides in the zImage), and i don't know of an easy way todo so from recovery mode. The easiest way is to use linux (even in a WM - you don't even need a full blown desktop, just CLI and compile tools) and patch the zImage, but i saw some Windows tools who might be able to do the same - I don't really know since i hardly use windows.
Thanks for your efforts! Keeping a close watch on this thread
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the patch is for the initscripts only - doesn't mind which kernel version. im doing my testings on Froyo 2.2 but patching should work the same on 2.1 scripts.
I hope to have some time later tonight to update the updater-script to follow all RFS partitions, and test it. ATM it works with my /cache partition only since its easy for testings (or "crashes" should i say? ).
i will update soon.
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regarding the linux part - no can do. We patch the initramfs scripts (which resides in the zImage), and i don't know of an easy way todo so from recovery mode. The easiest way is to use linux (even in a WM - you don't even need a full blown desktop, just CLI and compile tools) and patch the zImage, but i saw some Windows tools who might be able to do the same - I don't really know since i hardly use windows.
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That's what rooting your phone is for! Just root the device, copy over all of the required binaries (arm statically linked if required, but busybox should handle 99% of what you're using in the script) and the kernel itself can be easily exacted using dd, of course.
Whole thing can be wrapped in a UI using java without too much hassle as well.
Most users aren't gonna be up to installing linux in a VM to run the script!
just replacing those scripts on your system won't do. you need to patch the initramfs and flash zImage back.
repackaging zImage with a new initramfs is not that simple. I'm using kernel_repacker todo so.
im sure there must be a better way than kernel_repacker, but until then, this is what we use
and about the Linux usage - the user would probably never use z4build script. only the update.zip. Modders, ROM creators, etc, should use z4build (or similar method to add the appropriate "mount ext3..." command to the "mount rfs", as i showed in my blog) to allow their kernel to support ext3. Simply apply z4build on any rom's zImage, and it's users can now apply the update.zip to have this rom' work with ext3.
I hope this explanation is suffice.
z4ziggy said:
just replacing those scripts on your system won't do. you need to patch the initramfs and flash zImage back.
repackaging zImage with a new initramfs is not that simple. I'm using kernel_repacker todo so.
im sure there must be a better way than kernel_repacker, but until then, this is what we use
and about the Linux usage - the user would probably never use z4build script. only the update.zip. Modders, ROM creators, etc, should use z4build (or similar method to add the appropriate "mount ext3..." command to the "mount rfs", as i showed in my blog) to allow their kernel to support ext3. Simply apply z4build on any rom's zImage, and it's users can now apply the update.zip to have this rom' work with ext3.
I hope this explanation is suffice.
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Ah... kernel_repacker uses GCC. That would be pretty hard to port over to the SGS's stock kernel I guess.
Guess you're right then - would have to be run externally to the device. Bit of a shame since it adds to the complexity of the whole thing, still.
This does make it nice and quick to patch up any kernel at all though, which should make it much easier to keep the kernel patching up with any leaked kernels that come out!
looks like a very promising project! i liked voodoo but sadly we can not use it for 2.2 until we get the sources and it only converts the /data partition...
thanks for your work and i will be sure to check back here & on your blog soon
z4ziggy said:
Although this is a half-baked project and far from complete, im introducing it to the xda community so i might get more ideas, and fix/implement more functionality, as the project advances.
z4mod is the 1st step in breaking free from RFS death grip - or at least tries to achieve this. The project adds ext3 support to a given zImage's init scripts, and creates update.zip for converting all RFS partitions and flash the patched zImage.
...thats the idea anyway.
ext4 support is planned for future official release. for testings purposes ext3 is sufficient.
sources and information can be found on my blog here: http://z4ziggy.wordpress.com
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Did you manage to compile ext3 or ext4 support to Froyo kernels? I only found ext2 support in them. (At least in JPK)
Another thing I see that you mount the rfs file on the device, but for me it only got mounted as vfat, so the symlinks in /bin in factoryfs.rfs were gone. (I solved this issue by adding commands to the initramfs that restore these symlinks)
ext3 is built into 2.2 kernel, i assumed the same for 2.1.
ext4 module will have to be rebuilt for each kernel, unless we build a standard kernel with ext4 support built-in, but all this will have to wait until samsung releases the sources.
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Don't use the method which mounts the rfs files on the device. It uses ext2 and its obsolete already. I've only used the rfs mount on the device since it is the only way to have RFS readable as RFS and not as FAT. if your device mounted the RFS images as FAT, either:
1. you didnt use busybox mount
2. you might need to supply "-t rfs" to your mount command
z4ziggy said:
ext3 is built into 2.2 kernel, i assumed the same for 2.1.
ext4 module will have to be rebuilt for each kernel, unless we build a standard kernel with ext4 support built-in, but all this will have to wait until samsung releases the sources.
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Don't use the method which mounts the rfs files on the device. It uses ext2 and its obsolete already. I've only used the rfs mount on the device since it is the only way to have RFS readable as RFS and not as FAT. if your device mounted the RFS images as FAT, either:
1. you didnt use busybox mount
2. you might need to supply "-t rfs" to your mount command
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I know ext4 is missing, but I couldn't even get ext3 to work on JPK. (ext2 works)
for the mounts:
1. I did use busybox mount (using toolbox mount I couldn't even mount it in vfat mode)
2. I did supply -t rfs, but it told me invalid parameter
Some additions:
When I try to mount factoryfs.rfs in rfs mode it won't work (invalid argument). in vfat mode it works, but no symlinks and other rfs stuff. I can also mount it in j4fs mode, where I get some files not available in vfat mode (like param.blk or charging.jpg), the strange thing is these files are actually the same as in /mnt/.lfs
RyanZA said:
Most users aren't gonna be up to installing linux in a VM to run the script!
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There's an easier workaround for that.
Provide instructions to:
- Copy required files to USB stick
- Download Ubuntu Live CD
- Boot from CD
- Run scripts
If you wanted to get fancy it could be prepackaged into an existing bootable CD distro with the scripts included (checking for updates when they're launched).
From what I've read, Desire owners used bootable CDs to root their phones, so it's obviously a viable option for the standard user.
Alright, that's the extent of my expertise. I'll leave you guys to sort out the real issues now!
I'm also very interested in this so subing myself to this thread.
I quite like the fact you Windows users have to use a Linux install to do it, I get a bit fed up having to find a Windows box somewhere to use Odin and Kies all the time.
RyanZA said:
Most users aren't gonna be up to installing linux in a VM to run the script!
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Why? Surely the people wanting to do this kind of thing will be the more technical users anyway and us Linux users have to do the more difficult task of installing Windows in a VM to use the normal tools.
my ct-ng seems to be broken, my binaries doesn't execute on my SGS for some reason, so this will have to wait for tomorrow so I can investigate this further.
I need to compile the mkfs.ext3 staticly (which seems to compile fine using several different toolchains, but none works) so i can execute it from z4mod/updater-script.
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Why? Surely the people wanting to do this kind of thing will be the more technical users anyway and us Linux users have to do the more difficult task of installing Windows in a VM to use the normal tools.
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Not true at all!
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my ct-ng seems to be broken, my binaries doesn't execute on my SGS for some reason, so this will have to wait for tomorrow so I can investigate this further.
I need to compile the mkfs.ext3 staticly (which seems to compile fine using several different toolchains, but none works) so i can execute it from z4mod/updater-script.
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I've had so much trouble with statically compiling stuff...
We really need some kind of complete guide on all the ins and outs of statically compiling these system utilities. For a lot of them it doesnt seem to be all that straight forward...
i've a question
i've tried to mount the partitions as ext2/3 before by replacing the rfs in init.rc and recomplied the kernel and pack the zimage, but the system wont boot. it seems it wont accept any other fs other than rfs, rootfs, etc. my init.rc looks like this:
mount ext2 /dev/block/stl9 /system
so how did u simply mount them as ext3 by just changing the init.rc and recompile the kernel?
EDIT: sorry, i just tried it again and it's ok now, but not with the "||" (or) in the middle
Hi all, i've bought an HTC Hero with HTC's 2.1 ROM, and since it's still in warranty i don't want to flash it with a custom ROM now
I can't find a way to install apps on the SD, because all i find are cusom roms which already have apps2sd enabled...
What can i do if i want to keep my warranty?
Cero92 said:
Hi all, i've bought an HTC Hero with HTC's 2.1 ROM, and since it's still in warranty i don't want to flash it with a custom ROM now
I can't find a way to install apps on the SD, because all i find are cusom roms which already have apps2sd enabled...
What can i do if i want to keep my warranty?
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no. you need root. If you like your warranty, and your phone gets broken in some way while rooting, you can just run the official RUU and return it back to stock state, and your provider will never know.
Cero92 said:
Hi all, i've bought an HTC Hero with HTC's 2.1 ROM, and since it's still in warranty i don't want to flash it with a custom ROM now
I can't find a way to install apps on the SD, because all i find are cusom roms which already have apps2sd enabled...
What can i do if i want to keep my warranty?
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You can't enable app2sd without root, and if I am not mistaken, it's the rooting the will void your warranty....
I don't think you can mess with anything at the system level without voiding your warranty, which makes sense.
But, Andyt95 is right, if you mess something up, the RRU should restore it to the unrooted state.
I rooted it using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645253
I followed the first part up to the fourth point (i think recovery img is needed to flash, not to root, am i wrong?)
But, now?
ya recovery image needs when you want to flash something in your mobile . But to root your phone it don't need recovery
there are many apps out there which can give you root & most of them are compatible for Hero
Yes i rooted it
But what to do next to install apps on sd?
I can't find a tutorial, my mistake?
Cero92 said:
Yes i rooted it
But what to do next to install apps on sd?
I can't find a tutorial, my mistake?
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You need to partition your card with a EXT 2 partition. Then install any custom ROM. Most support app2SD
nirmalv said:
You need to partition your card with a EXT 2 partition. Then install any custom ROM. Most support app2SD
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Yes, but i'd like to jeep the default ROM for a while
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
Cero92 said:
Yes, but i'd like to jeep the default ROM for a while
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
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The problem is, its not a simple update, it needs support in the kernel ramdisk, busybox installed and some scripts.
Usually I don't like to recommend the Darktremor app2sd, because its a bit too bloated in my eyes, and I don't like things which are so complicated I can't understand them (and I have tried, but he has so much script for a relatively simple task...).
Anyway in this case, I think its your only bet.
DO A NANDROID BACKUP BEFORE YOU TRY ANYTHING - ESPECIALLY THIS!
EDIT: Taking another look, even it (the Darktremor app2sd) does not seem to fix the kernel's ramdisk. You might want to test it after a nandroid backup on the odd chance I am wrong (i.e. if your original ROM does run the init.d scripts - mine did not). I am afraid if I am right, the only way you can keep the original ROM and enable app2sd, is if you unpack the kernel ramdisk and edit the init.rc to run the init.d scripts - which is a bit more complicated than it sounds, but not that hard if you have the proper background....
erasmux said:
The problem is, its not a simple update, it needs support in the kernel ramdisk, busybox installed and some scripts.
Usually I don't like to recommend the Darktremor app2sd, because its a bit too bloated in my eyes, and I don't like things which are so complicated I can't understand them (and I have tried, but he has so much script for a relatively simple task...).
Anyway in this case, I think its your only bet.
DO A NANDROID BACKUP BEFORE YOU TRY ANYTHING - ESPECIALLY THIS!
EDIT: Taking another look, even it (the Darktremor app2sd) does not seem to fix the kernel's ramdisk. You might want to test it after a nandroid backup on the odd chance I am wrong (i.e. if your original ROM does run the init.d scripts - mine did not). I am afraid if I am right, the only way you can keep the original ROM and enable app2sd, is if you unpack the kernel ramdisk and edit the init.rc to run the init.d scripts - which is a bit more complicated than it sounds, but not that hard if you have the proper background....
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I'm down to give this a try, my girl wants the stock rom and a2sd. Dam cake eaters! but is there a process to follow with this? I'm good enough to follow a process but not create it for a2sd. Any links to reference??
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I'm down to give this a try, my girl wants the stock rom and a2sd. Dam cake eaters! but is there a process to follow with this? I'm good enough to follow a process but not create it for a2sd. Any links to reference??
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why stock though? have you considered that villainrom 13 is just like stock but better and has apps2sd? it's a full HTC sense 2.1 rom but rooted with apps2sd and a few small additions to ensure it runs as fast as possible and gives as much room as possible and runs a custom kernel ***
and you can revert by flashing an RUU which is super easy to do (I've done it before for warranty reasons) and the RUU (stock rom) works exactly the same, in fact IS exactly the same except for the features you're asking for.
***(which is pretty much required for apps2sd unless you want to hack it for a while and know how to do it yourself (it's a lot to ask the devs here to tell you everything you need to do if you're not a kernel developer already imho and even then there isn't a guarantee you wont' mess up your phone's stock rom).
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why stock though? have you considered that villainrom 13 is just like stock but better and has apps2sd? it's a full HTC sense 2.1 rom but rooted with apps2sd and a few small additions to ensure it runs as fast as possible and gives as much room as possible and runs a custom kernel ***
and you can revert by flashing an RUU which is super easy to do (I've done it before for warranty reasons) and the RUU (stock rom) works exactly the same, in fact IS exactly the same except for the features you're asking for.
***(which is pretty much required for apps2sd unless you want to hack it for a while and know how to do it yourself (it's a lot to ask the devs here to tell you everything you need to do if you're not a kernel developer already imho and even then there isn't a guarantee you wont' mess up your phone's stock rom).
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Hi I am trying to find the step by step guide about how to setup Apps2SD working. But having tough time. I have done this with my HD2 but cant find much help for Hero.
I have Recovery image flashed with 8GB (class 6) SD Card.
Next I am looking to partition the card from recovery, but what should be the swap size?
Once partitioned I will try flashing Villainrom 13 ROM.
Thanks
nbhor said:
Hi I am trying to find the step by step guide about how to setup Apps2SD working. But having tough time. I have done this with my HD2 but cant find much help for Hero.
I have Recovery image flashed with 8GB (class 6) SD Card.
Next I am looking to partition the card from recovery, but what should be the swap size?
Once partitioned I will try flashing Villainrom 13 ROM.
Thanks
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Swap does not seem to work well for the hero, therefore most ROMs will not enable it and I use 0 for the swap size when partitioning. If you still prefer to reserve room for it use something like 32 or 64.
dkelley said:
why stock though? have you considered that villainrom 13 is just like stock but better and has apps2sd? it's a full HTC sense 2.1 rom but rooted with apps2sd and a few small additions to ensure it runs as fast as possible and gives as much room as possible and runs a custom kernel ***
and you can revert by flashing an RUU which is super easy to do (I've done it before for warranty reasons) and the RUU (stock rom) works exactly the same, in fact IS exactly the same except for the features you're asking for.
***(which is pretty much required for apps2sd unless you want to hack it for a while and know how to do it yourself (it's a lot to ask the devs here to tell you everything you need to do if you're not a kernel developer already imho and even then there isn't a guarantee you wont' mess up your phone's stock rom).
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thanks for the reply! but to answer your in short, My girl doesnt speak geek and gets pissed right away when the ROM she uses acts up. So in short stock roms is whats she likes. I have been trying to convince her to do another ROM but she is hard headed. I think i'll just flash the villainrom 13 and tell her its stock lol. Thanks again i'll check it out!
Tried multiple attempts from scratch every time.
Attempt 1 - Failed
Partitioned my SD Card for EXT 2 (512MB).
Tried flashing of Villainrom 13 ROM along with Dalvik2SD patch.
Installed bunch of apps. Checked size of EXT2 partition. Nothing changed. Its still same size as it was before installing apps. System memory reduced from its original value.
Attempt 2 - Failed
Partitioned my SD Card for EXT 3 (512MB).
Tried flashing of Villainrom 13 ROM along with Dalvik2SD patch.
Installed bunch of apps. Checked size of EXT3 partition. Nothing changed. Its still same size as it was before installing apps. System memory reduced from its original value.
Any suggestions?
nbhor said:
Tried multiple attempts from scratch every time.
Attempt 1 - Failed
Partitioned my SD Card for EXT 2 (512MB).
Tried flashing of Villainrom 13 ROM along with Dalvik2SD patch.
Installed bunch of apps. Checked size of EXT2 partition. Nothing changed. Its still same size as it was before installing apps. System memory reduced from its original value.
Attempt 2 - Failed
Partitioned my SD Card for EXT 3 (512MB).
Tried flashing of Villainrom 13 ROM along with Dalvik2SD patch.
Installed bunch of apps. Checked size of EXT3 partition. Nothing changed. Its still same size as it was before installing apps. System memory reduced from its original value.
Any suggestions?
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System memory is still reduced with app2sd, since the /data/data folder is not moved to the SD.
Assuming you have adb working, check these two commands:
Code:
adb shell df -h
adb shell ls -ld /data/app
If you think you still have a problem please post the result of these two commands.
erasmux said:
System memory is still reduced with app2sd, since the /data/data folder is not moved to the SD.
Assuming you have adb working, check these two commands:
Code:
adb shell df -h
adb shell ls -ld /data/app
If you think you still have a problem please post the result of these two commands.
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Do I run this command in terminal emulator on droid or use droid explorer > Terminal Command?
Can Root Explorer help? I am getting adb permission denied from terminal emulator.
nbhor said:
Do I run this command in terminal emulator on droid or use droid explorer > Terminal Command?
Can Root Explorer help? I am getting adb permission denied from terminal emulator.
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well, I actually meant connecting the device w/ a USB cable to your computer and then from a command prompt (i.e. start -> run -> "cmd") using the "adb.exe" utility that comes with the android SDK (under the tools folder)....
You can run the same commands in a terminal windows just without the "adb shell":
Code:
df -h
ls -ld /data/app
Only problem is that then it you can't copy paste your result here.
for the "df -h" command take note of the mount of your sdcard which should start like this line:
Code:
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 720.9M 506.3M 178.0M 74% /sd-ext
I would assume that for you the mount point (last value) would be /system/sd.
next check the "ls -ld /data/app" and make sure it is linked to the same location, in my case it is:
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lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Apr 20 09:59 /data/app -> /sd-ext/app
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well, I actually meant connecting the device w/ a USB cable to your computer and then from a command prompt (i.e. start -> run -> "cmd") using the "adb.exe" utility that comes with the android SDK (under the tools folder)....
You can run the same commands in a terminal windows just without the "adb shell":
Code:
df -h
ls -ld /data/app
Only problem is that then it you can't copy paste your result here.
for the "df -h" command take note of the mount of your sdcard which should start like this line:
Code:
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 720.9M 506.3M 178.0M 74% /sd-ext
I would assume that for you the mount point (last value) would be /system/sd.
next check the "ls -ld /data/app" and make sure it is linked to the same location, in my case it is:
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lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Apr 20 09:59 /data/app -> /sd-ext/app
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My results from above 2 commands
C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools>adb shell df -h
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 95.6M 0 95.6M 0% /dev
tmpfs 4.0M 0 4.0M 0% /sqlite_stmt_journals
/dev/block/mtdblock3 170.0M 162.8M 7.2M 96% /system
/dev/block/mtdblock5 165.8M 11.2M 154.5M 7% /data
/dev/block/mtdblock4 130.0M 58.8M 71.2M 45% /cache
/dev/block/mtdblock4 130.0M 58.8M 71.2M 45% /data/dalvik-cache
/dev/block//vold/179:1
6.8G 4.0G 2.8G 59% /sdcard
C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools>adb shell ls -ld /data/app
drwxrwx--x 1 1000 1000 2048 Apr 22 01:34 ?[1;34m/data/app?[0m
nbhor said:
My results from above 2 commands
C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools>adb shell df -h
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 95.6M 0 95.6M 0% /dev
tmpfs 4.0M 0 4.0M 0% /sqlite_stmt_journals
/dev/block/mtdblock3 170.0M 162.8M 7.2M 96% /system
/dev/block/mtdblock5 165.8M 11.2M 154.5M 7% /data
/dev/block/mtdblock4 130.0M 58.8M 71.2M 45% /cache
/dev/block/mtdblock4 130.0M 58.8M 71.2M 45% /data/dalvik-cache
/dev/block//vold/179:1
6.8G 4.0G 2.8G 59% /sdcard
C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools>adb shell ls -ld /data/app
drwxrwx--x 1 1000 1000 2048 Apr 22 01:34 ?[1;34m/data/app?[0m
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Well, you really do *not* have app2sd enabled (I am sorry for my previous disbelief but I have seen many users in the past which only thought they did not have app2sd enabled).
From your previous posts I understand you are using VR13, so either ask on the VR13 thread how to enable app2sd (you can post the above as proof it is not working for you), or change to a ROM with more "stable" app2sd....
**** EXT4 for DATA (SD) install on second post *****
I've been slowly working on our Kaiser Kernel hoping to get extra life from it. Here are the changes I made so far.
1. Updated to the latest initrd and made a few changed in the init file
2. Changed the default I/O scheduler to noop.
3. Added block data integrity support and v4 support
4. Updated the latest yaffs2 filesupport up to changes dated 1/14/2011
5. Added PM module for Qualcomm 7500 chip
Will try to add BFQ I/O scheduler and see how the performance is compared to noop.
1/29/11 ** UPDATED KERNEL for better YAFFS2 best suited for Kaiser Samsung Memory chip **
Here is the nbh. This is type2 screen and keyboard1.
Will release my latest changes and update to git (need help on this one) when stable.
Please reinstall ROM and wipe data after flashing the kernel. The changes in yaffs2 code might cause issues. You can restore your data from BACKUP after installing the ROM.
************ TO FORCE CHECKPOINT IN DATA PARTITION PLEASE DO THIS IN TERMINAL *******************
su
echo 6 > /sys/module/yaffs/parameters/yaffs_auto_checkpoint
sync
This will change auto checkpointing to 2 and create a checkpoint.
This is just temporary, the checkpoint is deleted in reboot so the commands have to be done before every reboot.
One solution is to use Gscript.apk and type the commands in Gscripts. Execute via Gscript before reboot
**** To verify if you have checkpoint in Data Partition Please do in Terminal ******
To verify if you have yaffs2 checkpoint in the data partition Type the following in terminal
su
cat /proc/yaffs
Scroll down to Device 2 "userdata"
scroll down and look for "blocks_in_checkpt" should be 1 or 2 (not 0, if it is zero then you have no checkpoint in data partition)
Update 2/7/2011
******************EXT4 FILESYSTEM FOR SD INSTALL***************
Because of bad blocks on my Kaiser, I have to give all NAND partition to install on system while installing data on SD with EXT4 filesystem. Here are the requirements:
1. An SD card with at least class 4
2. A way to partition and format your SD with FAT/ext2/Ext4 (ext2 should be as small as possible), I use Ubuntu for this.
3. Kernel with ext4 support (this will format your whole NAND partition to use system and use EXT4 on SD for Data)
Instructions:
1. FORMAT SD (I use Ubuntu DiskUtil) with FAT/ext2/EXT4, on my 8GB SD I use 7gb for FAT/8mb for ext2/1gb for EXT4 but it's your call. The most important part is that you only give the second partition (ext2) the least amount of size.
2. Download the KAISIMG.zip, extract and you will get a file KAISIMG.NBH
3. use Atools to edit accordingly with your Kaiser's screen type and keyboard (NBH is using screen 2 and keyboard 1)
4. Flash the KAISIMG.NBH
HERE IS WHERE IT GETS TRICKY!!! PLEASE FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY!!!!
a. PRESS CENTER D PAD to enter ANDROID Installer
b. Choose (*) Sys on NAND
Choose (*) Data on SDCard Partition
c. Scroll Down to Install System and choose it
d. This will wipe your Existing system! Are you sure CHOOSE (YES)
e. Would you like to clear data too (Suggested) CHOOSE (NO) ***DO NOT CLEAR DATA OR THIS WILL CHANGE YOUR THIRD PARTITION TO EXT2 and will not work.
That's it. After installation reboot and you have an optimized ext4 on your SD for data. The mount options for ext4 in this kernel are:
data=writeback, barrier=0, nobh, noauto_da_alloc
Will use barrier=1 for better data security on next release, just enjoying the speed of barrier=0 for now
clemsyn said:
Will try to update our 2.6.25 kernel too if I get some space for my hard drive.
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Yes, Clemsyn If it's not a big problem please update 2.6.25 too. Thank you.
updates kernel 2.6.25
clemsyn said:
Will try to update our 2.6.25 kernel too if I get some space for my hard drive.
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This would be nice. Thank you
mt1976 said:
This would be nice. Thank you
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It would take awhile though since I have to remove my 2.6.32 kernel to put 2.6.25 since I'm limited in space. Donations for a laptop HD would be appreciated
UPDATE:
1. I think one of the reasons of data failure is that YAFFS refuses to write a checkpoint for our data partition. It writes it in the system partition with no issues. The new yaffs2 (updated 1-27-11 which I will update shortly) allows forcing checkpoint so I'll try that one and see if I can create a checkpoint on our data partition.
Finally got a checkpoint in my userdata partition...instructions posted on first post, no update on yaffs needed
clemsyn said:
It would take awhile though since I have to remove my 2.6.32 kernel to put 2.6.25 since I'm limited in space. Donations for a laptop HD would be appreciated
UPDATE:
1. I think one of the reasons of data failure is that YAFFS refuses to write a checkpoint for our data partition. It writes it in the system partition with no issues. The new yaffs2 (updated 1-27-11 which I will update shortly) allows forcing checkpoint so I'll try that one and see if I can create a checkpoint on our data partition.
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I have a 20 GB Sata laptop drive I could get to you. Used to be in a 360 and then broke the enclosure open for a hdd when the one in my laptop died. Drive works just fine, just small lol
aceoyame said:
I have a 20 GB Sata laptop drive I could get to you. Used to be in a 360 and then broke the enclosure open for a hdd when the one in my laptop died. Drive works just fine, just small lol
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Sorry about your phone. I was hoping you could test out my new kernel. ANyways, I think yaffs2 was having issues creating a checkpoint on the data partition since yaffs was only creating a checkpoint on proper unmount (which was not done in our kaiser). The latest yaffs can make us force a checkpoint by simply typing the command in the first post and typing "Sync" on terminal automatically creates a checkpoint in data partition. I'm currently testing it now and seeing how it goes.
BTW, I'll take that donation re:HD since I can use it as an external HD and put the 2.6.25 kernel there and improve it (that is if wife permits).
clemsyn said:
Sorry about your phone. I was hoping you could test out my new kernel. ANyways, I think yaffs2 was having issues creating a checkpoint on the data partition since yaffs was only creating a checkpoint on proper unmount (which was not done in our kaiser). The latest yaffs can make us force a checkpoint by simply typing the command in the first post and typing "Sync" on terminal automatically creates a checkpoint in data partition. I'm currently testing it now and seeing how it goes.
BTW, I'll take that donation re:HD since I can use it as an external HD and put the 2.6.25 kernel there and improve it (that is if wife permits).
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lol she's really not that strict, she just thinks my development for our devices is a waste of time. Just PM me where to send it and ill get it out to you.
aceoyame said:
lol she's really not that strict, she just thinks my development for our devices is a waste of time. Just PM me where to send it and ill get it out to you.
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Agreed, that's what my wife thinks too I'll PM you my location
BTW, please make sure that the location of yaffs_auto_checkpoint is in /sys/module/yaffs/parameters (some ROM might have it on modules).
UPDATE:
Checkpointing is working great for me so far. Command on first post has to be executed in every reboot to create a checkpoint so typing the commands in first post before rebooting will create a checkpoint and save data partition (me thinks).
You can install Gscript and run the script before reboot
To verify if you have yaffs2 checkpoint in the data partition Type the following in terminal
su
cat /proc/yaffs
Scroll down to Device 2 "userdata"
blocks_in_checkpt should be 1 or 2 (not 0, if it is zero then you have no checkpoint in data partition)
Can anyone help adding this to the shutdown script?
I've done 5 restarts, 2 battery pulls and 2 resets, made sure data partition was checkpointed before doing so....So far data partition has been OK with no FC's or errors, no lost apps with 18mb's left in data partition The thing that surprises me is that Phone Storage size hardly changes in size in every reboots so it's good news I have a feeling we finally nailed down this data corruption issue, but only time can tell since I will shift to prolong use before doing any restarts...
I have sent a PM to scooter hoping he can help me with a shutdown script so we won't need a Gscript. So far, Gscript is doing it for me. Upong reboot, I run the script and make sure I have a checkpoint in data partiion
clemsyn said:
sent a PM to scooter hoping he can help me with a shutdown script so we won't need a Gscript. So far, Gscript is doing it for me. Upong reboot, I run the script and make sure I have a checkpoint in data partiion
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I've got it working in a script, i have it in a script which is run on startup and then again on a successful shutdown. I'll upload a couple of updates in a bit
EDIT: I have attached 2 updates to the post, one is for cyanogenMod based builds and the other is for all other builds such as fresh froyo etc.
Clemsyn, i have the latest yaffs source compiled into the kernel, i will commit it to git in a bit. With the latest yaffs a checkpoint is created every time sync is executed which makes scripts easier!
scooter1556 said:
I've got it working in a script, i have it in a script which is run on startup and then again on a successful shutdown. I'll upload a couple of updates in a bit
EDIT: I have attached 2 updates to the post, one is for cyanogenMod based builds and the other is for all other builds such as fresh froyo etc.
Clemsyn, i have the latest yaffs source compiled into the kernel, i will commit it to git in a bit. With the latest yaffs a checkpoint is created every time sync is executed which makes scripts easier!
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I downloaded the CM update, and it didn't enable the checkpoint, still had to enable it manually through terminal.
Testing the kernel right now however, and so far liking it.
scooter1556 said:
I've got it working in a script, i have it in a script which is run on startup and then again on a successful shutdown. I'll upload a couple of updates in a bit
EDIT: I have attached 2 updates to the post, one is for cyanogenMod based builds and the other is for all other builds such as fresh froyo etc.
Clemsyn, i have the latest yaffs source compiled into the kernel, i will commit it to git in a bit. With the latest yaffs a checkpoint is created every time sync is executed which makes scripts easier!
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Thanks scooter, I'll try it out. I got stuck on a fake vsync and can't get out of it that I was unable to create a checkpoint and upon reboot without a checkpoint, everything was messed up. This is perfect, getting a checkpoint on startup and another in shutdown Thanks a lot.
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I downloaded the CM update, and it didn't enable the checkpoint, still had to enable it manually through terminal.
Testing the kernel right now however, and so far liking it.
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That's weird! So it didn't make a checkpoint on startup? I'm running the same script and init.rc and it works fine. I did push the file with adb though, did you fix permissions after updating?
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That's weird! So it didn't make a checkpoint on startup? I'm running the same script and init.rc and it works fine. I did push the file with adb though, did you fix permissions after updating?
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Ooooooh.... Probably not, lol. I'll do that, and edit this post with my results.
*EDIT* Ok, I feel stupid. I still had an old androidupdate.tgz file in my sdcard andboot folder, and the boot menu used it instead of the correct .tar file... Hm, that explained why my Market stopped working, lmao.
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Ooooooh.... Probably not, lol. I'll do that, and edit this post with my results.
*EDIT* Ok, I feel stupid. I still had an old androidupdate.tgz file in my sdcard andboot folder, and the boot menu used it instead of the correct .tar file... Hm, that explained why my Market stopped working, lmao.
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lol, rookie error
OK, it works on boot up since I get a checkpoint 1 every boot not sure about shutdown but if scooter says it works, I bet you it works in shutdown too
Scoot, I'm going to try to do a git diff and post it here so all the changes I've made in the config will be there.
Even with that little debacle, I had 0 corruption of data, or missing apps in my /data partition, and had to reboot 4-5 times, each time I used GScript to execute the command manually before shutdown.
And camera still works. ^.^
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Even with that little debacle, I had 0 corruption of data, or missing apps in my /data partition, and had to reboot 4-5 times, each time I used GScript to execute the command manually before shutdown.
And camera still works. ^.^
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That's great news and if my memory serves me right, you easily have data corruption in shutdowns and reboot. IMO, scooter's script is the best option we have for this issue and you don't have to remember to use gscript (especially from an old person like me with slight dementia Anyways, I'll continue on with my testing with this script. If it is still working after a few days, I'll try to add Namespace support, CIFFS, PPOE in our kernel.
BTW, here is my git diff and .config file. Please put it up in GIT. Thanks.
Y.G. said:
I formated my sd card to Ext4 and when insert it in to my phone, it says that's it's blank and has unsupported files. Any reasons for that?
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The SPH-L710 Samsung Stock LJ7 TW 4.1.1 Android doesn't understand/support the change to ext4 external SD card (microSD) without a few things being done.
I'm working this out right now. So far I have manually been able to mount the newly created ext4 partition on the microSD card through adb, and after some chown/chmod I was able to go back to "Settings and Storage" and the "Mount SD Card" picked it up, and I was up and running ext4. But this didn't persist after a restart. So I'm looking into: /etc/vold.fstab MODS to keep it after restart right Now !!
If Some one else already has this perfected please chime in. I'm wanting to do most of the devices in the house this way when I get time because better performance, having a file system with a journal, and getting rid of thins like 4 Gig per file limitations is pretty Sweet in my humble opinion *Grin*
0) Assuming you already have your microSD card formatted ext4. I also happened to label mine extSdCard for the volume label within gparted
1) Can mount with:
mount -w -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 /storage/extSdCard/
2) To get the correct owner and permissions run:
chown root:sdcard_rw /storage/extSdCard
chmod 775 /storage/extSdCard
3) Should make the extSdCard owner/permissons match the regular internal sdcard you can verify this like so:
cd /storage/ && ls -l
drwxrwxr-x root sdcard_rw 2013-01-12 18:16 extSdCard
drwxrwxr-x root sdcard_rw 2013-01-12 17:05 sdcard0
4) After that you can go to the "Settings and Storage" to run "Mount SD" and you will have ext4 extSdCard Show up and it bring up the File System Status !! --> Until you reboot and it goes to crap because I don't have the vold.fstab edit/MOD complete _yet_ ... So, for now a boot script has been put in place to bring our external SD card back online during restart, so the system will acknowledges it, making the world a better place.
Example of how things look file system wise: mount | grep extSdCard
/dev/block/mmcblk1p1 /storage/extSdCard ext4 rw,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0
5) Have not been able to resolve the vold.fstab to make this ext4 extSdCard matter fully Legit (in my opinion), but I did manage to make it remount the card on boot, so its online when the system comes up instead of having to manually mount it. Did this by -->
Added the following lines to the very bottom of: /etc/init.qcom.post_fs.sh
## sponix MOD to match with ktoonz kernel for better power management
stop mpdecision
## sponix MOD to mount extSdCard prior to GUI work around to make ext4 function
## read and write extSdCard mount
chown root:sdcard_rw /storage/extSdCard
chmod 775 /storage/extSdCard
mount -w -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 /storage/extSdCard
chown root:sdcard_rw /storage/extSdCard
chmod 775 /storage/extSdCard
## if you want read only extSdCard mount
## mount -r -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 /storage/extSdCard
Still attempting to automate the process so the Stock+root LJ7 can pick up the extSdCard _normally_ without having to do the mount command manually, but so far its kicking my butt. Also this is more a "General, or Question and Answer type Topic" the Kernel(s) obviously support ext4 the system fs uses/requires it *Grin*.. So we might get Our Friendly Neighborhood Moderator to Migrate it to the proper place to help others. Just hoping to get the last few bumps smoothed out, or find someone that already documented the process that I've overlooked *Grin*..
Current Known Issues: If you unmount the card through the "Settings | Storage | Umount SD" or by hand with umount, you will either need to reboot for it to reattach through the /etc/init.qcom.post_fs.sh boot script script addition, or will have to mount it manually if you want to keep the system up and running. Guess you could also probably just run the /etc/init.qcom.post_fs.sh as root from a terminal emulator (or adb).
Still searching for vold.fstab bits of wisdom but that will have to continue next weekend -->
Sexy and You Know it,
Keep on Flashing,
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Ha! Sorry. Deleted: Didn't understand that you had it running on boot (can't read properly )
Great idea
Am I really the only one who also thinks this idea is the nuts?
Am I the only one who longs to transform the mess that passes for a filing system on the internal sd using symbolic links into a beautifully organized, encrypted and cloud synced system on my external sd?
Is it just me and a few others that want to be able to achieve the above so that we can move from one ROM to another or recover from a lost phone with the minimum of fuss?
Are we freaks? :cyclops:
Say it isn't so XDA!! :crying:
I'm gonna try this on my international S3 running Null_ Rom 25 JB 4.1.2
PS do you have any idea how the entire ExtSD or just a folder can be enrypted using Cryptonite and automatically mounted at boot time?
emp111 said:
PS do you have any idea how the entire ExtSD or just a folder can be enrypted using Cryptonite and automatically mounted at boot time?
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Is this along the lines of what you're looking for?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1141467
Also your idea is pretty insane, but also genius
If you get that to work please do come back and share
Insane ideas are the best lol
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Is this along the lines of what you're looking for?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1141467
Also your idea is pretty insane, but also genius
If you get that to work please do come back and share
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Thank you for your prompt reply, yes it is asking a lot I know but I think that it can be done.
Now if you really thought that idea was insane......check this out:
Imagine that we asked every Android app developer to submit the various paths used for their config (and config backup) files to a central database and had the ability to add or own custom paths (which could be added to the central database once approved).
We could build an script/app that would retrieve a list of currently installed apps on your phone then automatically build a symbolically linked file system (and/or backup file system) in the location of your choice that you could either encrypt and/or sync using your current tools or even incorporate this functionality into the app itself along with the ability to choose what was encrypted/backed up and how i.e. either synced to the Cloud or (S)FTP or SMB as either a dd copy or even a cwm flashable zip.
Could I dare hope for a Tasker module or the ability to add custom scripts?
I wish I could do this myself but my coding skills are non existent
Anyway the LUKS manager app won't automatically mount a file system, but I really like it anyways, thank you for pointing me to it!
And on the Ext4 front, the mount command (yes the 1st one ) failed, maybe the op could offer a suggestion. :angel:
BTW is there a place for people to suggest ideas for apps here?
Wait really it wont? I couldve sworn I remembering that it did
But dude....
You need to learn yourself some java and start whipping stuff up
Idk about the whole central database thing, but the rest could definitely be done with root access
I think the main problem with that is the proprietary aspects...i mean even here on XDA where binaries released are supposed to be GPL compliant, many of them arent and its sad because it deteriorates the overall quality of work thats released afterward
This whole thing is just hard work!
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Wait really it wont? I couldve sworn I remembering that it did
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Doesn't seem to unfortunately
But dude....
You need to learn yourself some java and start whipping stuff up :D :D[/QUOTE said:
You make it sound soooo easy lol, and at another point in my life maybe it would have been but right now I'm operating at a reduced level due to some unforeseen circumstances that have left me lacking focus, motivation etc
You know all the things you need to be creative, learn etc lol
Anyway back to the matter at hand, I have got my ext4 SD card to the stage where I have to manually mount it from within the Settings/Storage as I'm using the international S3 and don't have the init.qcom.post_fs.sh, I think the qcom refers to Qualcomm chipset in US S3's.
As for modifying vold.fstab so we can avoid the above workaround it would seem that maybe thats a dead end as according to a German guy on android-hilfe. de, Vold may have been modified by Samsung to only deadl with exFAT on External SD's.
Looks like I'm not gonna be in Android nirvana for a while :crying:
Unless anyone else on XDA fancies getting in on this !!!!
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Got it working ..... kinda
Got an app called ezymount (by ezynow) that automounts my ext4 64GB microSD at boot time.
I have to wait a few seconds for the boot process to complete but it's automatic, am pretty happy!!
Now gotta get symlinks, encryption and cloud synchronization sorted :/