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Hi all,
I have been a winmob user for over 5 years and i know pretty much everything about them. (see join date) Though 3 days ago i got a a8183 desire.
My god i have a lot to learn about Android. Winmob seemed so much simplier to pick apart with registry and custom roms.
Anyways i have been reading thread after thread for days yet i still have a couple of questions that i cannot get clear answers for.
I have a a8183 telstra desire running on optus. I have updated to the latest offical 2.2 ROM. (Everyone mentions OTA (over the air) though i downloaded it and installed thru windows).
So i would appreciate if someone could help me out with my questions/assumptions.
1. From what i have read you cannot r00t a froyo OS. Is that right? Though i have found an app z4root that will do it temporarily until reboot. Unrevoked doesnt seem to work.
2. To change system files you need not only root though you need the clockworkmod recovery part of the bootloader. (eg. to replace HOST file for adblocking).
3. You need permanent r00t to install the clockworkmod (so i cannot do this).
4. You cannot remove default ROM apps from your phone without the clockworkmod.
5. You need clockworkmod to install custom ROMs.
So from what i gather.. r00t is good. though really only cause it gets you the clockworkmod recovery which is where you can really hack it.
And to get this i need to downgrade to 2.1, r00t, clockwork then use a hacked rom for 2.2?
Your help is greatly appreciated.

hi sage, i too came from windows mobile so i know how you feel, lucky for me i jumped on the android bandwagon earlier with the htc hero, after i got bored with my HD1, anyway your wrong on quite a few points, so i'll point you in the right direction.
1) the latest version of unrevoked (www.unrevoked.com/recovery) is more than able to root the froyo roms, its a one click app and can root your device in minutes
2) to easly modify system files you need s-off (this is equivalent to HSPL on wm devices) after you have rooted, you need to search for alpharev, this is a linux live cd, you just burn it and boot it and it will security unlock your device.
3) when you download and run unrevoked, it will not only root your device but insatall the latest version of clockworkmod recovery. (just hold vol down and power when your device is off to access hboot, and choose recovery from the list) so unrevoked kills 2 birds with one stone
4) to remove the apps in the /system/ partition there are 2 ways, from recovery using adb, or if you flash the s-off mod, you can remove them directly from your device using a file manager.
5) yes you need clockworkmod or another custom recovery to install custom roms, but now you know how to do it, thats not a problem

Hi Sage,
If you're looking for an easier way to get rid of all the Telstra apps (more like a blob of links really ) on your phone you may want to try one of the stock HTC WWE ROMs. It's clean and you can flash it via exe, just like in WM. The latest RUU I believe is the 2.29.405.2. Also, be aware of the risks of rooting your phone.

thanks for your response guys
Ok so i am now r00ted and running Leedroid's WWE ROM! (thank you!) it was actually pretty easy.
I think unrevoked was failing cause i was using a USB HUB.
OK so now i just want to remove some more of the default apps that come with it.
So i will try alpharev to security unlock my device. (is this permanent or if i reflash my rom it will come back?)
once i have done this i can then delete anything i like thru r00t explorer?
At this stage i am trying to just make some more room for apps. As a number of them wont move to SD Card.
A couple of last questions if i may. I have an new SD Card on order. Am i able to simply copy everything from my existing SD to my new and then swap it over in my phone and it will all be ok? Or do i need 'clone' it with some tool?
Where in the system paths do i remove 'shortcuts' within all apps? (or even simply rename them.)
Much appreciate your help. Android is growing on me. I especially love adb logcat!

ok.. i am now security off'd alpharev worked a treat.
i am now using r00t explorer to try and delete items from /system/app though they come up read-only so i cannot delete them
i take when i get to remove these the phone will have more stoage space for apps yeah?
i also still cannot find where the all apps shortcuts sit! (so i can rename/remove).
and lastly now i have the alpharev bootloader so gonna google how to change that
i did use the Leedroid apps2sd ROM. though most of my apps are still going to phone memory and i cant move them across.
Is there a fix for this? i guess once i work out how to delete these read-only files ill be ok anyway.

Unfortunately removing system apps wont give you more space to install apps, they are stored under a different partition, /system and /data are not on the same disk so you can save as much space on /system as you want but it won't affect /data at all.
With running out of space you have a few choices:
Go to settings..applications..then manage and move as many apps to SD as you can. This is fro-yo apps2sd, not all data is moved and not all apps can be moved, so you will probably run out of space again anyway.
Or
Reboot into recovery and partition your sdcard to create an ext partition, when you boot your rom ALL apps will be moved to the ext partition leaving lots of free space. Backup your sdcard before you partition it, you will lose all data.

Sage said:
ok.. i am now security off'd alpharev worked a treat.
1) i am now using r00t explorer to try and delete items from /system/app though they come up read-only so i cannot delete them
2) i take when i get to remove these the phone will have more stoage space for apps yeah?
3) i also still cannot find where the all apps shortcuts sit! (so i can rename/remove).
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1) Press on Remount as R/O, this should allow you to delete/replace system stuff & ringtones, fonts...etc.
2)No, because apps install to data/apps & not system/apps.
3)You mean like the applicatiuon menu when we used to delete shortcuts or rename them? Hahaha man that was sooooooooooooo long time ago for me. Anyway, the applications installed are displayer & you can't hide them or rearrange them like Winmo. You might want to try Launcher Pro to hide apps in the apps drawer.
If you need more info, ask freely because 2 years ago I went through the same

mr.r9 said:
1) Press on Remount as R/O, this should allow you to delete/replace system stuff & ringtones, fonts...etc. Typo..You meant R/W
2)No, because apps install to data/apps & not system/apps.
3)You mean like the applicatiuon menu when we used to delete shortcuts or rename them? Hahaha man that was sooooooooooooo long time ago for me. Anyway, the applications installed are displayer & you can't hide them or rearrange them like Winmo. You might want to try Launcher Pro to hide apps in the apps drawer.
If you need more info, ask freely because 2 years ago I went through the same
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Hmm..actually the new MTD partition table hack should be able to free space on the /system, adjusting partitions with less for /system and /cache and more for /data/app should give enough space..Though I'm not sure if he wants to try this right now, since it's considered an advanced task and maybe he'd like to get more accustomed to Android before attempting it? His wish though..
And well, there's yet another method to remove system apps, other than the other two methods. This is to modify the zip file of the custom rom to remove the actual apks from /system and reflashing it on top of the actual flash..

droidzone said:
And well, there's yet another method to remove system apps, other than the other two methods. This is to modify the zip file of the custom rom to remove the actual apks from /system and reflashing it on top of the actual flash..
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Ohh yes indeed. OP, you can edit the zip before installing it to your device. You can remove/replace application in system/data and fonts...etc. Just remember to change signature verification to off in your recovery.

my god. i have spent days on this baby and im only barely scratching the surface
much appreciate all your help guys!
ok.. so its time to use app2sd i hear that app2sd+ is better though? (it moves more data to SD yeah? appcache?)
i only have 2Gb microsd right now so i might wait until i my 8GB arrives before i flash a new ROM and start again (again!)
i also noticed these online kitchens. http://cookmyrom.co.cc
which look great! tho they are still a version behind the leedroid i am using tho its a good way to get rid of some default apps.
i certainly like the idea of reparitioning the default disk though not quite ready for that yet especially when app2sd+ sounds much more straight forward.
i am dumbfounded that you cant remove 'shortcuts' from the All Apps! or even rename them!! my god. i would think that was first thing available on such an open source OS.
So i have now created a folder called "Folder" to reduce the clutter.. and now i guess i cant even rename it!?? and if i create another one its called "Folder" too!
lol.. this OS is so advanced yet some basic stuff seems to be overlooked.
I did try launcher pro though it removed my HTC Sense (which i like). So i might need to keep looking for an app to help organise my All Apps and my desktop (is desktop what its called?)
And just how do i add ringtones?
love your work guys thanks again.

Create a folder called Ringtones on the root of your SD to have...ringtones.
When you open a folder, long press on the header to rename it.
As for organizing, I stopped caring & started to use search, but maybe if you want you can try an app called folder organizer.

mr.r9 said:
Create a folder called Ringtones on the root of your SD to have...ringtones.
When you open a folder, long press on the header to rename it.
As for organizing, I stopped caring & started to use search, but maybe if you want you can try an app called folder organizer.
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nice one thank you!

Sage said:
...So i have now created a folder called "Folder" to reduce the clutter.. and now i guess i cant even rename it!??...
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Open the folder then hold where it says folder to change its name.

Ok. Now have app2sd working!
thanks to all of you. Beginning to love this android phone now. I feel sorry for all the people who use them as they come from the factory! Thank god for all the xda people who rip them to shreds and make them better

If i can have one last question. Any way to remap hardware buttons to start an app?
Like when you hold down the search button it launches Google Voice. I want it to launch a different app..
I did a search and found the hardware button remapper though it only does hardware to hardware.. not hardware to app

For Folders(Assuming you're using full HTC Sense), just open it and hold the title bar. Took me some time to figure out. You cannot easily rename the apps in "All apps", but you can remove them(Which is essentially uninstalling them) from Settings > Applications > Manage, unless they are system apps which need to be manually deleted either via S-OFF + Root explorer(OR something similar) or ADB + Custom recovery(Clockworkmod or Amon Ra).
For setting a custom ringtone, open the music app, select the music > Menu > Set as ringtone.

so no love on the hardware remap for apps?
Oh well i have done a lot of googling and it seems it cant be done (well at least not easily).
My last question is when you launch an app from a folder the folder stays open.. any way to force close or change its behaviour?

for those following this. I found the Tasker app remaps hardware buttons amongst doing amazing other things.
Still no love on closing folders though.

i ended up using tasker to create app widgets to replace the folders...

If you want app widgets, there's also "Desktop Visualizer".
In terms of killing of an app, have you tried "Settings -> apps settings -> development" then there's an option there for "stop apps via long press"?

[Q] Deleting stock broswer

Is it possible to delete the stock browser with a custom ROM? At the moment if I try and do it from the Manage applications view it doesn't give me the option. But I was wondering if I could manually locate it and delete it without causing any stability issues?
Thanks

You can. ADB from recovery (S-ON), Root explorer (S-OFF).
But I don't know if it causes stability issues - never tried it.

It can be done and has no bearing on anything - just means you can't browse until you get one from the Market

Yes, can confirm that! I'm using Dolphin HD - so removed the stock about an hour ago. No problems.

I can add stock email, news/weather & chat apps to this list - no effect on other apps performing these functions, at least on Oxygen 2.0.1 anyway...

Brilliant, next question. Where is the stock app stored, as I will manually have to remove it.

Zammo76 said:
Brilliant, next question. Where is the stock app stored, as I will manually have to remove it.
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For me it was system/app/Browser.apk
Removed with Root Explorer.
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Ah yeah got to that file using Astro but it's only 684KB, yet when I look in Manage Applications it says that the Internet is 13.76MB.
Unless this includes other data rather than just the Browser, but I'm not so sure?

It surely includes other data (like history, cache etc.)

Probably cache and some settings. In manage applications, clear the data (if that's possible), then remove the .apk

in my opinion the best way to remove system apps is to install Titanium Backup (have the phone rooted), then go to apps in titanium backup then hold your finger on it , the menu appears, slide down and click on remove(using recovery bug)...

I have Titanium Backup but I can't seem to find the stock Browser under the Backup/ Restore tab the only thing I have which is remotely like that is:
[BOOKMARKS] Internet 2.2
Am I looking in the correct place?

Only you can remove it, if you have S-OFFed your phone. And I cant help you with that,I have it deleted already. But should be over there somewhere.

I've rooted my phone using the Unrevoked method and have CWM. But when I've checked the H-Boot screen it says I have S-ON, how do I get it Off?

S-OFF tutorial
Also, I forgot to mention, you can remove files via ADB from CWM/AmonRA. Guide here.

Thanks for this I think I'm going to try the ADB method as it looks a little easier. Plus I did read someone if you remove S-Off it can be permanent and effect warranty.

Zammo76 said:
Brilliant, next question. Where is the stock app stored, as I will manually have to remove it.
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Apps are stored in /system/apps (may vary with rom?). There are a couple of options:
Titanium backup is free from market and will permanently remove any apps - you need root and s-off for this. Root explorer can be used for the same - just delete the .apk file.
You can also do it via cmd prompt and adb, look for detailed threads about this in these forums!

OK I now have S-Off on my phone and its also now obviously rooted but I still cannot delete my stock browser. I've tried using Titanium Backup but I can't locate it to delete it, I've also tried Root Explorer but when I try to delete the Browser.apk it comes up with the following message:
Browser.apk cannot be deleted because the file system is read only.
Also I've wiped data and deleted many of the stock HTC apps & widgets but I don't seem to be freeing up much if any space. My Low on Space indicator has been on throughout even though I have got rid of the following:
Footprints,
Footprints Widget,
Friend Stream,
Friend Stream Widget,
Music,
Music Widget,
News and Weather,
Peep,
Photo Widget,
Stocks,
Stocks Widget,
Teeter,
Twitter Widget,
Weather Widget.
Does it actually free up much space un-installing these?
Can anyone please help with these issues?

Root explorer fix
Hi
The reason Root Explorer comes with that error is because the system folder is mounted ass read only (you can't edit anything on it)
Fix:
1. Browse to system/app
2. In the upper right corner there is a mount R/W button, press it
3. Now you can read and write and therefore also delete the browser.apk
4. Remember to mount as R/O when done

It doesn't free up space as they are located in /system and regular apps are installed in /data.

[Q] Downloading from android market UK.

Has any one got a solution to why the android market will let you download some apps but not others. This problem only happens with certain apps.
Contacted one of the app developers, and he thinks there may be a problem with my data partition.
I'm on stock rom, latest froyo update, and have not rooted. thanks, in advance, for your help.

Do you get an error message?

I just get the message installation unsuccessful

Try resetting ur phone and clear cach or make a different Google account
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region and ROM version also apply

Go to menu/settings/applications/manage applications click the all tab and scroll down to market. Clear data and cache. That should fix it.
Sent from my Motorola Startac running Atari 2600 software!

pwraggcan said:
Go to menu/settings/applications/manage applications click the all tab and scroll down to market. Clear data and cache. That should fix it.
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+1 for this but if not can you list some example apps so we can see if it's just you (B. East) or not?

The apps i seem to have a problem with are, Cordy the game, storage analyzer, and gun brothers game. I some times have problems with updating from the market. I have to un-install some apps then download them again to update. this happens when the app has been moved to the sd card, but not with all the apps that I have moved to the sd card

B. East said:
The apps i seem to have a problem with are, Cordy the game, storage analyzer, and gun brothers game.
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No problems here. This is going to be something up with your phone.
B. East said:
I some times have problems with updating from the market. I have to un-install some apps then download them again to update. this happens when the app has been moved to the sd card, but not with all the apps that I have moved to the sd card
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Not all apps like being on the SD Card. Do all your apps specifically say they have been updated to allow them to be moved to sd card?
You may have to move them to phone if they continue to cause issues (and to be honest, with a 1GB internal memory, putting apps onto a slow sd card really isn't worth doing.
pwraggcan said:
Go to menu/settings/applications/manage applications click the all tab and scroll down to market. Clear data and cache. That should fix it.
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Did you try this?
If all of the above fails to work you will probably have to factory reset the phone.

I tend to download using wifi, going to try downloading over 3g and see if that makes any difference, if not, will do a factory reset. thanks for the help though.

Before you do that you still haven't said if you cleared the market cache. Did you?

yes, i done that, tried to download again and got a message, "could not install on USB storage or sd card". First time I have seen that message.

Is this whilst trying to update an app or download a new one?
If to update then move the app to the phone first.

this is trying to download a new app.

Had a quick Google and found something to try.
mount the phone so you can access the sdcard.
Set to show hidden files
Go to folder .android_secure
Delete a file in there smdl2tmp1.asec
Then try again.

thanks, I will give it a go. can I use a file explorer to do this, because am not sure how you mount the phone, I am quite new to android, use to use winmo mobiles

you can yes, my favourites are Astro, Linda and ES.

I had a look in android_secure, made sure all hidden files would be visible, and could not find any files at all. checked to make sure that the hidden file visible setting in the file explorer was switched to the correct setting, and could not see any files at all.
Have I lost some files? if i have i have no idea how. do I need to do a factory reset?

B. East said:
I had a look in android_secure, made sure all hidden files would be visible, and could not find any files at all. checked to make sure that the hidden file visible setting in the file explorer was switched to the correct setting, and could not see any files at all.
Have I lost some files? if i have i have no idea how. do I need to do a factory reset?
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Damn. When I found that possible solution I noticed that as many people said they did have it as said they didn't. I was hoping you would be lucky.
In this case the same file (apparently this is a known bug and has been marked for next version fix) is being stored in the system directory of the phone and without root you can't get access to it.
I'm afraid the only way to clear it (without root) is a factory reset, sorry.

thanks for your help, I will factory reset and see what happens.

[Q] running EF02 with Urban ROM, uninstall app ?

Okay so I tried to post in Urban Inception thread but since I only lurk and flash I can't LOL
so here's the deal. I have the latest purple recovery, EF02 and EF02 modem, I flashed urban, and then flashed his add on
I cannot uninstall preloaded apps. This is my first gingerbread so I don't know if there are drastic differences, but I typically use root explorer and move the apps in question to a different folder on my SD card to back up, or just delete. simple as that.
so I did this to some of the add ons/rom apps, and they stay in the app drawer, and market, installed apps. but are not in system/app or data/app....I did even look in data/data thinking maybe it doesn't clean up after itself but even after deleting left overs its still shows
any suggestions?
Is there any way to lift the block on my account so I can post in Dev forum. I'm not a Dev wiz but I've been testing Rom/kernels since my moment on SDX and had switched over here since I got my Epic, Gtab (sweet!) and daughters intercept because there is better community support.I might ooooops with a duh question here and there but I typically have some common sense about posting "How do I turn on my phone????" in the Dev forum
thanks in advance

shrinkingspace said:
Okay so I tried to post in Urban Inception thread but since I only lurk and flash I can't LOL
so here's the deal. I have the latest purple recovery, EF02 and EF02 modem, I flashed urban, and then flashed his add on
I cannot uninstall preloaded apps. This is my first gingerbread so I don't know if there are drastic differences, but I typically use root explorer and move the apps in question to a different folder on my SD card to back up, or just delete. simple as that.
so I did this to some of the add ons/rom apps, and they stay in the app drawer, and market, installed apps. but are not in system/app or data/app....I did even look in data/data thinking maybe it doesn't clean up after itself but even after deleting left overs its still shows
any suggestions?
Is there any way to lift the block on my account so I can post in Dev forum. I'm not a Dev wiz but I've been testing Rom/kernels since my moment on SDX and had switched over here since I got my Epic, Gtab (sweet!) and daughters intercept because there is better community support.I might ooooops with a duh question here and there but I typically have some common sense about posting "How do I turn on my phone????" in the Dev forum
thanks in advance
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the apps should be in /system/app/ or /data/app/ and you should be able to remove them with root explorer just remember to remount writable before you go to move/erase one of them.
and to post in the development section i believe you need atleast 10 posts

thanks I did do that actually, it's usually the first thing I do, like I wrote above. I either move them (take them out of system/app or data/app) to make a back up at the same time (before there were so many flashable restore zips lol....or just straight up delete them
I did do that and they still show in app drawer, installed apps and market, they show with that generic icon, they do not show in system app....they are executable and don't update from market with you try but show up none the less....I was assuming it was rom specific, which is why i wanted to post there.
I don't know if it was something written into the add on pack offer by the rom developer (compkid?)
but thank you for responding, oh and yes i was mounted R/W it wouldn't have deleted from system otherwise...werid there's a trace left???? grrrrrrr just driving me nuts

shrinkingspace said:
thanks I did do that actually, it's usually the first thing I do, like I wrote above. I either move them (take them out of system/app or data/app) to make a back up at the same time (before there were so many flashable restore zips lol....or just straight up delete them
I did do that and they still show in app drawer, installed apps and market, they show with that generic icon, they do not show in system app....they are executable and don't update from market with you try but show up none the less....I was assuming it was rom specific, which is why i wanted to post there.
I don't know if it was something written into the add on pack offer by the rom developer (compkid?)
but thank you for responding, oh and yes i was mounted R/W it wouldn't have deleted from system otherwise...werid there's a trace left???? grrrrrrr just driving me nuts
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I have noticed that I have had to delete the apps from system/apps folder and data/data folders. Try looking that folder as well and see if the apps are showing in there.
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yes I did delete from both. I did notice also that some were located in both
so when i look at settings>applications> manage, they are still listed, as com.....etc
and grayed out, and sd symbol...when i click on them, all options (uninstall, clear data, force stop) are blacked out
I looked on my sd card and they are not in .secure, android/data etc
I ran the terminal and ls'ed /mnt/asec and they are not there either
so here's only thing i can think of: when I ls -l system/app all the system apps have rw-r--r--
i can write to it, ie copy and paste via rootexplore but is it not letting me execute install???
so should i chmod...only thing is I can't chmod system/app recursively??? keeps saying bad mode like it's not recognizing "-R"
maybe I'm off and the permission have nothing to do with it
thanks for the suggestions so far, if anyone else has an idea or knows about the permissions and whether that's what's going on let me know
or where those are hiding, it says sd in the app list but i couldn't find it anywhere and I didn't notice any sdext partition

so got it????
I went back to stock, fresh clean odin, odined purple CWM, flashed Kernelplus EF02, 3x wipe, flashed urban again, this time I DID NOT do the add on and it's been fine, doing nothing diff than usual and when i delete an app from system or data, it's gone from app list, market,
so I don't know what's going on with that compkid addon zip but the only thing i did different this time was not flash that and everything is behaving normally

If you make changes to the system, clearing the dalvic cache and fixing permissions should help clear the remnants of removed apps.
Sent from the Odyssey

I want to make sure I have this right. You deleted the apks from both folders, did a reboot and the apps were still there? Or did you just delete from the two folders and not reboot before checking if they were still there?
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Sometimes if u reboot the go away also.
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oh trust me i rebooted...they were not in the folders (system, or data), but still in the app list (settings, applications, manage apps) and market and appbrain still tried to update
in manage applications it showed them as greyed out, and when i clicked on that all options (clear data, uninstall, froce stop etc) were blacked out and unclickable
this time around i did all things the same (ef02 from odin, flash CWM purple, su.zip, 3x data wipe UI ROM) except installing that add on package of extra apps and I no problem deleting anything from system after installing urban inception Rom...added a theme and still no problem modifying
weird huh, I haven't opened the zip, and to be honest I can follow it but I'm not a dev so i wouldn't necessarily recognize anything

Ok, compkid is big on his icons and themes. Check these three spots with Root Explorer or something like it: system/app, data/app, and data/data folders. The third was the last spot I found some things left to delete. I think that should take care of any leftover files that are keeping them from disappearing but in the OP Compkid does suggest using 7zip to delete unwanted apps before flashing the folder. Hope that may help
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any idea why those grayed out icons would have a tiny sd (sd card im assuming) in corner...they were the ones that came with the addon, not user installed. I did peek in data/data but theres a good chance i missed something. I also for kicks checked everywhere in my sdcard like i mentioned earlier...just never seen an app left like that with an sd on the blank icon
issues resolved as far as my phone but i have this need to know issue haha
i should have gone through first, i did notice that but i was being lazy i guess

shrinkingspace said:
any idea why those grayed out icons would have a tiny sd (sd card im assuming) in corner...they were the ones that came with the addon, not user installed. I did peek in data/data but theres a good chance i missed something. I also for kicks checked everywhere in my sdcard like i mentioned earlier...just never seen an app left like that with an sd on the blank icon
issues resolved as far as my phone but i have this need to know issue haha
i should have gone through first, i did notice that but i was being lazy i guess
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You have got me there. I haven't run across that before. Did you possibly move apps to SD or is that an indicator of such since they are saved to SD? Not sure on that one..just some possibilities. Maybe someone else has some ideas???
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well i didn't move those over for sure, it was es file explorer, twitter (maybe), facebook (maybe), samsung app store (another maybe) i was looking at so many things in half a day, having not been on xda in awhile, catching up on all the gingerbread leak stuff and new CWM and trying to make sure i read through everything before playing that i can't remember all of the apps exactly (one smack for not writing it down), but i remember specifically one was es file explorer
i've never seen that either, with the green/white square icon, and all the menus blacked out when i click it....never seen that ...haha I'd love it if someone knew so i wouldn't have to sit here pretending I'm not still annoyed in the back of my mind, wonder if i could ever find happy gilmore's "happy place" instead of little green and white icons

So if you long press on those Android boxes that used to be apps and hold them over the trash can you can't uninstall them? I use Zeam Launcher and that's an option on there. What launcher are you using? It sounds like you are close to where you want to be now...
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i can delete them off the desktop fine, but they are still in the system someplace...the app manager still shows them there...those icons show in drawer, in app list and in market update however the update was unsuccessful...the app manager shows them in the list when i click on them, you can't do anything, every option (uninstall, clear data, move, force stop) is blacked out and not clickable
sure i can delete the icon but it's still tucked away somehow,
also like i said earlier, something else was buggy where i couldn't drop apps, in the system/app folder to install (YES I clicked R/W)....i couldn't re install via rootexplorer even the ones that came with add on....i've used many roms since i got my moment and 2.1 came out and then began my flashing addiction and i've always been able to click and install, it might prompt me that it's already install do i want to proceed, but would install over the other and complete successfully....every time it said install unsuccessful.

Gallery+Music not working on CM9

The gallery detects no images and the music player finds no music. I have many folders full of images and "music" folder filled with music. ES file manager can detect and view/play image-/music files.
I recently installed the latets version CM9 and I have never had this issue before. Third party music apps are also unabe to detect music. Factory reset does not help. Deleting cache and data in settings does not help. There is no issue with .nomedia files.
Don't know what to do really. Any answer is greatly appreciated.

re-flash the rom

Charl96 said:
The gallery detects no images and the music player finds no music. I have many folders full of images and "music" folder filled with music. ES file manager can detect and view/play image-/music files.
I recently installed the latets version CM9 and I have never had this issue before. Third party music apps are also unabe to detect music. Factory reset does not help. Deleting cache and data in settings does not help. There is no issue with .nomedia files.
Don't know what to do really. Any answer is greatly appreciated.
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Its very obvious!
If reflashing doesnt work, try putting all the music files in the root of the sd card and not in folders as you did now!

gire.prasad said:
Its very obvious!
If reflashing doesnt work, try putting all the music files in the root of the sd card and not in folders as you did now!
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Horrible option. Makes the whole "hierarchical filesystem"-thing pointless, and the SD-Card looking extremely confused (I like having a /sdcard/music/ folder, and even more folders in that. And camera also saves pictures to subfolders of /sdcard/.). There has to be another way. On my GNex CM9 doesn't have this problem, so it isn't ROM-related, and Gingerbread isn't making this trouble, too. Just as a start to exclude options on the "why".
(But, yes, I've tried that with one file, and it works. For people interested in shabby workaround and not in real fix it'll probably do the trick. (Except for (camera) pictures. Camera saves in /sdcard/DCIM/blabla. No way to change that.))

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Horrible option. Makes the whole "hierarchical filesystem"-thing pointless, and the SD-Card looking extremely confused (I like having a /sdcard/music/ folder, and even more folders in that. And camera also saves pictures to subfolders of /sdcard/.). There has to be another way. On my GNex CM9 doesn't have this problem, so it isn't ROM-related, and Gingerbread isn't making this trouble, too. Just as a start to exclude options on the "why".
(But, yes, I've tried that with one file, and it works. For people interested in shabby workaround and not in real fix it'll probably do the trick. (Except for (camera) pictures. Camera saves in /sdcard/DCIM/blabla. No way to change that.))
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I'm gonna try putting 1 mp3 file on root and delete any .nomedia file too see if it works, if not I'll reflash.
Same with gallery, it can't hurt..
By the way I noticed the gallery shows pictures taken after I deleted the ROM but if I place old photos in that same folder they don't show up...
Thanks for all the answers
PS. I did full wipe before installing the ROM and will wipe everything again..

dammit I ****ed up, did wipe and didn't root again so when I flashed the ROM it didn't boot. Flashing 2.3.4 Stock FTF file now. Thanks anyway.

Just FYI: Putting files to the root of /sdcard is not a longterm solution, after reboot they don't show up again. Niether clearing Media Storage's data nor wiping cache nor dalvik cache, nor fixing permissions works as a solution. That is really f*cked up.
Edit: No changes in ongoing nightlies on that. Hopefully: Yet. But I wouldn't bet on it.

SOLVED!
This is not a ROM problem! It could happen to anyone using ROM Manager!
How-to fix:
1. Download and install the latest ROM Manager APK from their website.
2. Delete the .nomedia file in /sdcard/android/data/ (ROM Manager 5.0.1.3 put a bad one there, the new version will be good).
3. Clear the data for Media Storage in Settings > Apps.
4. Reboot.
5. Wait. Re-indexing can need a while.
Credits go to the guys from the awesome Galaxy Nexus forum. Especially to Dragn4rce for creating this thread and kyokeun1234 for pointing out aboves easier solution.

abnah said:
This is not a ROM problem! It could happen to anyone using ROM Manager!
How-to fix:
1. Download and install the latest ROM Manager APK from their website.
2. Delete the .nomedia file in /sdcard/android/data/ (ROM Manager 5.0.1.3 put a bad one there, the new version will be good).
3. Clear the data for Media Storage in Settings > Apps.
4. Reboot.
5. Wait. Re-indexing can need a while.
Credits go to the guys from the awesome Galaxy Nexus forum. Especially to Dragn4rce for creating this thread and kyokeun1234 for pointing out aboves easier solution.
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Thank you tremedously, and your credits!
*Pressing Thanks* Cheers!

YES!
abnah said:
This is not a ROM problem! It could happen to anyone using ROM Manager!
How-to fix:
1. Download and install the latest ROM Manager APK from their website.
2. Delete the .nomedia file in /sdcard/android/data/ (ROM Manager 5.0.1.3 put a bad one there, the new version will be good).
3. Clear the data for Media Storage in Settings > Apps.
4. Reboot.
5. Wait. Re-indexing can need a while.
Credits go to the guys from the awesome Galaxy Nexus forum. Especially to Dragn4rce for creating this thread and kyokeun1234 for pointing out aboves easier solution.
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Thanks a lot, this was really helpful for me!

Lt15i

lavenderdl said:
Lt15i
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Was this a question? If yes: Yes, the solution is exactly the same across devices.