[Q] The largest EXT3 partition you can have? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What is the largest size you can have for you EXt3 partition, for Android to able to hadle it. I heard 2gb, but I'm guessing it's a good idea to keep sefa and stay below.
Any hard facts on this? I'm about to partition a card in Amon Ra.

Its a guide line 2Gb after that can become unstable my EXT3 1280mb

Thank you!
I'm going for 1700-ish. Could I run into any problems with that?

Can't see any probs its below 2gb

i have partitioned to ext4 with 2gb and i'm on data2sd rom.
everything going smooth...so far!

It was only a few months ago that people were recommending nothing greater than 1gig, due to performance issues...
How the world doth change!

Looking forward to the new 3gb recommendations... Coming next spring in a phone near you!

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[Q] Convert ext4 to ext3 without repartitioning?

Alright, I'm running darktremor a2sd with an ext4 partition in decks 1.2 and loving it. I'm thinking about messing with synergy and know that I would need an ext3 not ext4 partition to run dta2sd. In amon ra you can upgrade from ext2 to ext3 and 3 to 4. Is there a way to "downgrade" to ext3 without wiping and repartitioning?
Thank you in advance for any help.
Not in any recovery that we have available. I thought I read at one point that you can set SD partitions in Linux, but I don't know if you downgrade in that either.
ok, thanks, thats kind of what i thought.
another question for you or those in the know......i'm pretty sure since i converted my ext3 to ext4 and resetup dta2sd that my temperatures have been getting considerably hotter than before. people suggest that that ext4 isn't the best for the life of an sd card because of extra writing going on.....could this extra work also be contributing to higher temps?
I've got my SD partitioned to ext4 on CM7 with s2e and I've haven't noticed a temperature change, but it sounds possible.

[Q] ext4 problem

Hello, I have some problems with my sd card, and I couldn't find anywhere this, so I needed to open new thread.
Okay, problem is, that I have 2GB of EXT4 and 13GB of FAT32 and all worked well, now I want to reduce EXT4 to 1.5GB or 1GB, but whenever I boot with GParted, I see only FAT32 part of my SD-Card, and not EXT4. Where is it?
And another thing, should I use XD2SDX or A2SD+ , and what is the difference?
dravenSt0rM said:
And another thing, should I use XD2SDX or A2SD+ , and what is the difference?
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Since couple days ago I was comparing both techniques for myself, you may take a look on this blog entry "amichalec.net/2011/11/refreshing-desire"
-andy.

4EXT Recovery not formatting sd-ext?

Hi all,
having quite a few problems with 4EXT recovery, and it formatting my sd-ext partitions. I read quite a few thread on here about using 4EXT to correctly partition memory cards, and I recently (tried) upgrading my rather old 8Gb class 4 Transcend micro-sd to a Samsung 32Gb Class 10, and thought I'd do things properly.
I boot into the recovery, hit Tools, Partiton SD Card, hit the tick to say "I'm ok with it destroying my data" remove all partitions, select 1024Mb for first partition, and after that I've tried about 5 different combinations, including skipping both the second partition and the swap, trying two 1Gb partitions for SD-ext and no swap etc etc. It then prompts me to pick EXT3 or EXT4, and I always choose EXT4.
Everytime I do this however, the EXT partition is never formatted, despite it telling me it completed successfully. This means that when I install my rom (MIUI-XJ Data2EXT one) the rom will not boot as it has no EXT partition to write to (I'm presuming as I get no specific error).
Has anyone else had similar problems or can they point me in a direction where I might be going wrong?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help shed some light on a user who is rapidly going grey here lol
Which recoveryversion do you use?
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I suggest you use the rmd recovery. when the recovery is booted it tells you what partitions you have on the sd card. other than that it is by far the best sd-card formatting recovery i have used. the only better option is gparted i think
i have had similar problems with 4ext and i am not using it anymore
There's no such generally known bug in 4ext. if you're facing issues, I suggest you contact Maximillian with logs. I haven't seen anyone with a greater passion for fixing things.. That's the way you contribute to development-by helping fix any issues.
hassand said:
I suggest you use the rmd recovery. when the recovery is booted it tells you what partitions you have on the sd card. other than that it is by far the best sd-card formatting recovery i have used. the only better option is gparted i think
i have had similar problems with 4ext and i am not using it anymore
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RMD is crap. There is a huge bug whereby there are issues backing up .android_secure.
We identified this in the thread yet as far as we are aware, has not been addressed. It would be good if not for that bug.
MatDrOiD said:
Which recoveryversion do you use?
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I'm using 1.0.0.3 RC3 4EXT Recovery Touch
hassand said:
I suggest you use the rmd recovery. when the recovery is booted it tells you what partitions you have on the sd card. other than that it is by far the best sd-card formatting recovery i have used. the only better option is gparted i think
i have had similar problems with 4ext and i am not using it anymore
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I'll see if this makes any difference. I did try and reinstall Clockwork Mod Recovery over 4EXT but for some reason it didn't work, and I still have 4EXT, but right now I'll try anything lol
Reno_79 said:
Hi all,
having quite a few problems with 4EXT recovery, and it formatting my sd-ext partitions. I read quite a few thread on here about using 4EXT to correctly partition memory cards, and I recently (tried) upgrading my rather old 8Gb class 4 Transcend micro-sd to a Samsung 32Gb Class 10, and thought I'd do things properly.
I boot into the recovery, hit Tools, Partiton SD Card, hit the tick to say "I'm ok with it destroying my data" remove all partitions, select 1024Mb for first partition, and after that I've tried about 5 different combinations, including skipping both the second partition and the swap, trying two 1Gb partitions for SD-ext and no swap etc etc. It then prompts me to pick EXT3 or EXT4, and I always choose EXT4.
Everytime I do this however, the EXT partition is never formatted, despite it telling me it completed successfully. This means that when I install my rom (MIUI-XJ Data2EXT one) the rom will not boot as it has no EXT partition to write to (I'm presuming as I get no specific error).
Has anyone else had similar problems or can they point me in a direction where I might be going wrong?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help shed some light on a user who is rapidly going grey here lol
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U can use Gparted to format your card from pc
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rootSU said:
RMD is crap. There is a huge bug whereby there are issues backing up .android_secure.
We identified this in the thread yet as far as we are aware, has not been addressed. It would be good if not for that bug.
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for backup i use cwm
for partitioning, i have used it many times with 1 ext4 partition or 2 ext4 partitions and a swap and such, it has never failed yet. after i partition the card, i go back to cwm, so i have no experience with backups on rmd
Just for partitioning? How odd?! haha
RMD uses SDparted for partitioning so it does not correctly align the partition, which hinders performance.
Gparted is the best way. Not sure how 4EXT works for partitioning but apparently it does not use SDparted and DOES align. Whether thats by scripts or not I dont know.
Anyway Gparted is the best choice for partitioning
Just to check things out as I've read stories about mislabelled micro sd cards being sold before, I just performed a full surface scan on the card, came up clean. Just tried GParted... still no go.
Could there be a problem with the partition sizes I'm choosing?
Do I need 2 ext4 partitions? (I'm assuming yes as I have two on my 8Gb which was partitioned perfectly fine within Clockwork about a year ago; 1 of 1Gb and one of about 70Mb)
Any other software I can use to partition via the PC?
One fat, one EXT
Whats happening in Gparted?
Tell me exactly how you are setting up and what the problem is please.
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One fat, one EXT
Whats happening in Gparted?
Tell me exactly how you are setting up and what the problem is please.
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That's what I thought, one of each.
Gparted says completed fine, but looking in 4EXT Recovery it still says my EXT4 is unformatted and I cannot install my rom
no idea then, other than removing all the partitions then create all from scratch.
Create Fat32 at desired size then format fat 32 as fat 32. Create EXT4 as desired size then format ext4 as ext 4...
Using Gparted you need a Fat32 partition (main partition) followed by an ext3 or ext4 partition (just 1-2gb) Make sure its Fat32 first though.
For some strange reason, possibly drivers, I had trouble with Gparted running through VMware, maybe try making an actually bootable CD or Usb stick. Worked for me.
Reno_79 said:
Just to check things out as I've read stories about mislabelled micro sd cards being sold before, I just performed a full surface scan on the card, came up clean. Just tried GParted... still no go.
Could there be a problem with the partition sizes I'm choosing?
Do I need 2 ext4 partitions? (I'm assuming yes as I have two on my 8Gb which was partitioned perfectly fine within Clockwork about a year ago; 1 of 1Gb and one of about 70Mb)
Any other software I can use to partition via the PC?
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you can use PARTED MAGIC but its basically Gparted and Parted put together in 1gui.Some other useful tools in it as well.
Also it runs off the computer ram, which is better than a live cd
Well a little update:
I've managed to get ClockWork Mod back on the phone, and it seems my partitions are working correctly now. Just got a bootloop problem now, I'll get there eventually lol
Looks like it's a bad sd card, no matter what I try and do, even if the software I create the ext partition with say successful, once I get it onto my phone it's not there anymore. Will never buy an micro-sd from ebay again.
Reno_79 said:
Looks like it's a bad sd card, no matter what I try and do, even if the software I create the ext partition with say successful, once I get it onto my phone it's not there anymore. Will never buy an micro-sd from ebay again.
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I wouldn't blame the SD card. The Desire is notoriously awkward where using 32Gb cards are concerned, indeed I'm sure it's been said that it only supports upto 16Gb cards though I suspect some may have gotten 32Gb cards to work. Similarly, class 10 cards are a bit hit and miss with the Desire. It's taken me a couple of attempts to get a working class 10 16Gb card and to be honest there's no noticable speed improvement over my class 4 8Gb and 4Gb cards.
Parva4 said:
I wouldn't blame the SD card. The Desire is notoriously awkward where using 32Gb cards are concerned, indeed I'm sure it's been said that it only supports upto 16Gb cards though I suspect some may have gotten 32Gb cards to work. Similarly, class 10 cards are a bit hit and miss with the Desire. It's taken me a couple of attempts to get a working class 10 16Gb card and to be honest there's no noticable speed improvement over my class 4 8Gb and 4Gb cards.
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That a fair point, so I thought I'd test it in my mates Sensation XL and another's Galaxy SII (Why do all my friends have much newer, bigger phones than me? ) Anyway... long story short, same kinda problems, ebay seller has been shut down, paypal looking into getting me a refund and I've bought another Lexar 32Gb that was on sale at amazon. Should be the end of my problems, but thanks everyone for the help.
same issue here
Hi guys,
I have the same problem. I have 2 Different cards, 8 and 16GB all Class 10 - I tested them and they have the right speed and they seem to work just fine.
I boot a live Ubuntu 11.10 and run Gparted. I then format (the 8GB card) by the book (fat32 first and 1GB ext4 after, both primary partitions).
My 4EXT 1.0.0.4 RC3 doesn't see the partitioning of the SD Card.
If I format the card using 4EXT, I can install the roms and they run fine for a few days but then EACH ROM (I've tried prolly 10...) starts hanging, and when I turn the phone off, the ROM don't boot anymore... wiping cache + dalvik doesn't help at that point.
I start thinking my Desire has an hardware issue?
thanks

Buy better SD Card or try another ROM?

Hey,
I'm a noob basically, always had rooting/flashing in mind though so last night I finally had a go at it to get better performance out of my poor Desire.
I will say I spent too much time thinking what to choose between Cyanogen/MIUI and went with the latter to reward myself visually from the get go. I might have not got the gist of a2sd/d2ext/d2w, but I chose to go with the latest signed MIUI xj- d2ext in the end and partitioned my SD Card like this: 1GB ext4, 2,7GB FAT32.
Now, I've gotten quite a few FC's and things were sort of laggy, but figured it might be the first day and installing/doing everything at once that's causing this. My SD Card is the stock 4GB Class2 one and while the internal storage is 80% free, what bothered me was not being able to store back my music library, running out of space. The SD Card's capacity now is the 2,7GB, I have about 1,3GB of music and 850MBs or so of misc stuff that I do not know about. Like I said, I might have skipped more than necessary reading about d2ext, but what I'm asking now is:
- shouldn't I be able to use all FAT32 space available for music and whatnot?
- if not, would choosing MIUI a2sd be better?
- would another ROM suit my class2 card better?
- should i just get a 16gb class6 instead?
Thank you kindly.
friendlyfires7 said:
- should i just get a 16gb class6 instead?
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Yes.
Homever keep in mind that ext partition (for A2SD) can be maximum 1-1.5GB, you might have issues with bigger partitions.
So think if you'll need those 14GB for FAT partition, in my case 8GB is absolutely enough, unless you store a movies on it.
k3lcior said:
Yes.
Homever keep in mind that ext partition (for A2SD) can be maximum 1-1.5GB, you might have issues with bigger partitions.
So think if you'll need those 14GB for FAT partition, in my case 8GB is absolutely enough, unless you store a movies on it.
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Thanks, the reason I would buy 16GB instead of 8 is a very small difference in price, about 4 euros so why not double the capacity.
What would then be a good partitioning of space? I've read there's scripts, some use 3 partitions, normally I would be tempted to do as before, 1gb ext4, rest ntfs, I guess. d2ext would be the best choice, still, right?
1-1.5gb ext3 or ext4 (for A2SD), rest FAT32 (for your personal files, music, videos etc).
To partition SD use 4ext recovery, or gparted under linux. (you can use ubuntu livecd for example)
friendlyfires7 said:
Thanks, the reason I would buy 16GB instead of 8 is a very small difference in price, about 4 euros so why not double the capacity.
What would then be a good partitioning of space? I've read there's scripts, some use 3 partitions, normally I would be tempted to do as before, 1gb ext4, rest ntfs, I guess. d2ext would be the best choice, still, right?
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Best way to partition the SD card is to do it with in the phone itself using a recovery like Clockworkmod or 4ext Recovery. These software take care of the sequence of partitioning and any other errors that may arise if you try to do it manually using a computer based partitioning software.
My personal choice is 4ext recovery touch with 1GB ext4 and rest fat32. Gives best performance.
dvsk69 said:
My personal choice is 4ext recovery touch with 1GB ext4 and rest fat32. Gives best performance.
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Are you saying 1gb gives better performance than 1.5gb or 4ext rather than 3ext or both?
got cm7r2 hboot s-off on slim ics rom. 1.5gb ext3 rest fat
thx

SD Partition on 32 GB card?

Hey guys,
I've searched around a lot but haven't found anything explicit to a 32 GB card's ideal partition table. I've read somewhere that the ext3 shouldn't be larger than 2 GB, is this really the case? Or is it device specific? And if thats the case, can the MT3G3 handle a larger than 2GB partition? Also, is there a point to having a swap partition? I know on Linux systems it helps with memory and the XDA SD partition guide mentions that we can have one if we wanted .. but is there a point to it?
My second question is ... should I get data2ext or a2ext? Or some other tool? The choice is pretty confusing, esp since it seems that some of them do the same thing?
I'm thinking about making the partitions equal between FAT32 and Ext3 (if swap won't make a difference).
PS - Its a Class 10 Sandisk card.
eMJaaay said:
Hey guys,
I've searched around a lot but haven't found anything explicit to a 32 GB card's ideal partition table. I've read somewhere that the ext3 shouldn't be larger than 2 GB, is this really the case? Or is it device specific? And if thats the case, can the MT3G3 handle a larger than 2GB partition? Also, is there a point to having a swap partition? I know on Linux systems it helps with memory and the XDA SD partition guide mentions that we can have one if we wanted .. but is there a point to it?
My second question is ... should I get data2ext or a2ext? Or some other tool? The choice is pretty confusing, esp since it seems that some of them do the same thing?
I'm thinking about making the partitions equal between FAT32 and Ext3 (if swap won't make a difference).
PS - Its a Class 10 Sandisk card.
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don't know what a mt3gs works with, 32 should work but no larger I doubt. as for an ext partition there is no reason to make it smaller than internal memory and 2gb should be more than enough, I have never even used more than 1gb but 1~2gb should be the perfect point.
not sure if any of the roms here support ext4, if they do I would recomend that over ext3, it won't ware the card much fast (the extra journaling does but not much)
personaly kinux swap doesn't help much, not even on the g1 but give it a shot and see if it works for you, will help with multitasking
use apps2ext for sure, not data as it will be slow
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Thanks so much for the reply
I'll give this a go! I might as well have a swap partition as well since I have so much space should the swap be smaller than the ext3 partition? I'll also look into apps2ext .. but earlier came across int2ext in CronMod .. would that work?
eMJaaay said:
I'll give this a go! I might as well have a swap partition as well since I have so much space should the swap be smaller than the ext3 partition? I'll also look into apps2ext .. but earlier came across int2ext in CronMod .. would that work?
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I'm not sure if creating swap on sd is supported on this device (at least, CM7). When I tried to partition SD using Rom Manager the device didn't see my ext partition if I selected swap partition size more than 0.
As for apps for managing ext partition usage, s2e app worked for me all right on CM9 and CM7. If you device is running CM9 you should be extra careful with such software. In example, Link2SD caused much trouble for me - constant app FC and I had to reinstall the system.
And be careful - it seems that s2e wipes ext partition at the first mount.
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If im not mistaken, your kernel has to support using a swap partition.
Look into darktremors apps2sd. A. Lot of folks seemed to like that. It allows you to choose different setups if I remember right. (A2sd, data2sd, etc)
Data2sd would prob work ok since you have a class 10 card.
Also, if you are needing more space and are running a custom rom, look up mtd partitions in development forum.
Another nice trick is bind-mount data to cache.
Mt3gs does not support higher than 32gb. Ext4 support I think is available but only through kernels or scripts.
Hope that helps.
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Different ROMs support different a2sd scripts.....you will have to find a script compatible with your ROM.
I use A2SDGUI on my phone.
A swap partition acts a virtual ram for your phone if you run low on ram memory.Not required though.
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Thanks for the replies everyone
I'm running CM7.2 which has built in moving to SD but this hardly does anything :/ I've only got around 7 apps half of which I can't even update cos its running low on space :/
Quite a few partition articles / posts, etc mention ext3 no larger than 2 GB and a swap of 0 MB :/ I've got the CM kernel that came with the last stable release (in June this year) .. does that support swap? Is there even a point of adding a swap of 0 MB .. might as well not make a swap partition at all right? I'm partitioning using Gparted on my Linux! I think S2E supports that!
Seriously guys, thank you so so much for all your replies
Update: Link2SD didn't work. S2E worked on S-ON with a 28 ish GB FAT32 Primary Partition and a 2048 MB i.e 2 GB EXT4 partition.

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