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[Q] Desire Z with 1.84.708.1, Can it be rooted?

Hi,
I am newbie in this forum
I just bought Desire Z in Hongkong. It has been updated to 1.84.708.1 before I start join this forum.
I want to root it, but after searching many times I cannot find the links or references to root this stock rom version.
What I found is that in order to root, we have to downgrade the software (stockrom) first. However, the quides only provides procedures to downgrade from 1.72 to 1.34.
My questions:
-Can I root (without firstly downgrade it)?
-If I have to downgrade, can I use/apply the procedures applied for downgrading from 1.71 to 1.34 (while my stock rom is 1.84.708.1)
Please point me to the links or references so that I can look into it
Appologize, if my questions have already been asked by others.
thanks in advance
Cheers

I'm also in the same boat. Did you find out what the solution was?

Nope, no official ROM versions 1.72 or higher are rootable yet.
The guide to downgrade from 1.72 to 1.34 and root will work for you.
After root, if you want to get back to a more recent ROM version, you can flash the Virtuous custom ROM, which is based on 1.85.

Thank you!

Viceroy_N said:
I'm also in the same boat. Did you find out what the solution was?
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I have successfully downgraded the rom to 1.34.708.3
The next step would be do the rooting..
I will do it this weekend. I still need to ensure that I understand all the procedures as I don't want to brick my dz
I will post whatever the result
Cheers...

i have one question about downgrade ...is it able to backup the offical 1.84 rom for go back to OEM for warranty ?
cause the downgrade will wipe the 1.84 rom already
or does your 1.34 able to check the OTA upgrade if i want OEM back ?
or any method to backup the 1.84 before downgrade ?

psuser said:
i have one question about downgrade ...is it able to backup the offical 1.84 rom for go back to OEM for warranty ?
cause the downgrade will wipe the 1.84 rom already
or does your 1.34 able to check the OTA upgrade if i want OEM back ?
or any method to backup the 1.84 before downgrade ?
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You should be able to flash the official shipped 1.84 ROM if ever needed for warranty purposes.
As far as I know, there is no way to make a nandroid/clockworkmod backup of the 1.84 ROM, since it would require root to do so.
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Vision

psuser said:
i have one question about downgrade ...is it able to backup the offical 1.84 rom for go back to OEM for warranty ?
cause the downgrade will wipe the 1.84 rom already
or does your 1.34 able to check the OTA upgrade if i want OEM back ?
or any method to backup the 1.84 before downgrade ?
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As explained in the above post, currently there is no tools to back up the ROM without firstly rooting your device Unfortunately, you cannot root rom v.1.84
ROM Manager and Titanium back up require the phone to be rooted in order to do back up.
So, What I did before rooting, is downloading the new stock rom from this link:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Vision
However, after rooted, you still can have OTA upgrade
So, now I have 2 shipped rom (i.e v.1.34 and v.1.84)
If I ever want to upgrade, I dont need OTA, I just flash it...
Cheers

thx for the help and the link help me alot
i just ask this for my friend cause he is worrying not able to going back to stock if need...
now just let him decide root or not....i dont want to take the risk if anything happen that cant return
ps : his phone is hk csl version ... not sure does the hk_cht version same as hk_csl version...and not sure does it effect warrenty

silverwind said:
I have successfully downgraded the rom to 1.34.708.3
The next step would be do the rooting..
I will do it this weekend. I still need to ensure that I understand all the procedures as I don't want to brick my dz
I will post whatever the result
Cheers...
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Did you use the goldcard method to downgrade?
coz i am stuck at step 11 of goldcard method. I am not able to copy the content of goldcard to removeable disk.
After i select the content in removable disk, "Paste write" option is not available
Tried it in XP and win 7..
Any help please..

If someone can post a guide on how to donwgrade succesfully from 1.84, that would help a lot of peoples including my self.
Question here ; i have another Desire Z witch he is root actually, so it is possible to clone the root one and copy it to the unroot desire z 1.84 ?

[Q]How to quit the DHD without roots and s-off and with the original rom?

Hello, I am new to Android, but still decided to risk installing a rom, I did create all the procedures from a gold card after downgrade, root, then do the s-off and finally install the rom Android Revolution HD 3.3. Thank God everything worked out.
Now I have a huge doubt, if I sell my phone and want to leave it "raw" or how he came to Fabricated without root, without s-off, and no custom rom what should I do?
Sorry for my english, but I live in Brazil and I'm using Google translator. I thank you all.

To get back to stock:
- Please search the forum
- Find one of the numerous posts about the subject
- Follow the instructions

there are SEVERAL topics about it, to make it short:
-flash the original RUU
-root
-achieve s-on by same tool you s-offed your device
-unroot
-sell
regards!

Guess Shortest procedure should be
1 . Radio S-Off using Jkolijo's tool
2. Install latest official Ruu
you should be good to go

v6kgang said:
Guess Shortest procedure should be
1 . Radio S-Off using Jkolijo's tool
2. Install latest official Ruu
you should be good to go
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You should do s-on, not off and thiagodark already posted the instructions even though they can easily be found by searching.
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[Q] Flashed GB official ruu. Can not root. Help...

Hi Fellow xda.
I have flashed the official Gingerbread ota update ruu to my desire.
After that i realized that i couldnt root or go back to Oxygen rom, now that the hboot version is 1.02
Before i had hboot version 0.93 i think.
I have tried the downgrade to 2.1
and root again with unrevoked.
None of these 2 methods work.
Is there any other way to go back to rooted and custom recovery to oxygen rom or hboot 0.93?.
With oxygen and launcherpro my desire feels faster than stock sense
Anyone else have this problem?

There is currently no method of downgrading the hboot or rooting the official GB RUU.
I guess all you can do is wait until somebody figures a way to root and install custom recovery
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Ops good job I never installed this. I read others having this problem also.

Same situation, precipitaded mself, now can't root and all my backups are Titanium backups, have nandroid backups but can't use them....
damn...
isn't it possible to downgrade hboot?

I am also facing this problem. Is there any solution available now?
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HTC Desire: Android 2.3.3 official Gingerbread rom.

No solution - check Alpharev/Unrevoked updates - if there will be a solution, it will probably be in the developement section.

Someone said that they used a Froyo RUU to downgrade then they just rooted. But it didn't work for other people but I think its with a shot. Otherwise you'll have to wait.
Swyped...

Hmmmm...I did not know about this...
I did not flash the RUU directly but tried to flash the rooted or modified ones from this forum...and decided to keep InsertCoin 1.0.9
How did the devs root it then? Perhaps, try asking Baadnewz and/or NeoPhyTe for help, since they have released the rooted official update.

I don't think they rooted it as such, but more of "ported" it. I don't know a thing about rom development but go and ask him.

aaa said:
Hmmmm...I did not know about this...
I did not flash the RUU directly but tried to flash the rooted or modified ones from this forum...and decided to keep InsertCoin 1.0.9
How did the devs root it then? Perhaps, try asking Baadnewz and/or NeoPhyTe for help, since they have released the rooted official update.
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The difference is that when u run the ruu, it will overwrite ur hboot, ur recovery, ur rom, ecc, everything...So u lost root, because the ruu restore everything as stock.
In particular after run the ruu, the new hboot installed doesn't allow to root again and doesn't allow to change hboot at the moment.
Instead, when u flash the rooted rom based on official gb (u already have root and u don't lost it, simply), the zip contain only the rom part and with inside the super user apk (that allow root permission), so flashing it u will continue to have ur recovery, ur hboot, ur root permissions.
Instead when running the ruu, so u lost root, there is no way to install again a custom recovery and there is no way to push the super user apk into the rom (unrevoked / alpharev doesn't work)..At the moment.
From devs side, create a rooted rom is easy, as they extract from the ruu only the rom and make it rooted pushing in the zip that they are going to create the super user apk and some other tweaks to the kernel as well...All this can be done with the dsixda kitchen
I hope everything is clear now

shankly1985 said:
Ops good job I never installed this. I readothers having this problem also.
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That you did. There are plenty of threads with that information available.

is there a way to root now?
we should wait?

Okay well then i guess im stuck like others :S
i was just thinking if there was a way to get superuser rights by using the terminal or adb.
i did also try the old root method for the desire that came before unrevoked. That didnt work.

Thank goodness...I was tempted to flash the original RUU...but my stomach told me not to do it...I would have been in the same situation if had flashed it too...
I hope there will be an easy solution in the near future for you guys
@andQlimax: Thanks for the information so...so, I hit the thanks button

Popenda said:
Okay well then i guess im stuck like others :S
i was just thinking if there was a way to get superuser rights by using the terminal or adb.
i did also try the old root method for the desire that came before unrevoked. That didnt work.
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and what should we do now?
except waiting

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151765
That's prob as close as you'll get to the update without flashing the RUU.

Meaple said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151765
That's prob as close as you'll get to the update without flashing the RUU.
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i can't access recovery

I think gingerbreak can still temp root this build if it helps.
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ste1164 said:
I think gingerbreak can still temp root this build if it helps.
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Have the same problem as others here. Tried both apk and adb with GingerBreak. No luck
...but I'm trying to play around a bit and got a noob idea to use ARUWizard to flash custom rom. I've extracted RUU 2.29 and RUU 2.3.3 and replaced 2.3.3 rom.zip with the one from 2.29. It didn't work of course as newer version has been discovered but I was wondering if it's possible just to root the standard rom.zip and put it back. Is there any chance that it works?

Have anyone rooted htc desire with Gingerbread RUU update ?
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HTC Desire (S-ON, HBOOT - 1.02, SLCD)

[Q] Help with best Rom for my gingerbread desire with lastest gingerbread ruu

Hi guys
I have a desire bravo that i updated to the new gingerbread ruu when it came out.
Sorry but i have a few questions. Im on holiday at the moment and im using my desire wifi hotspot to use the internet at the moment so i really dont want to mess it up.
1) I used the clockwork mod to S-off and install a custom recovery this morning.
I know that the S-Off worked and i manged to install the custom recovery as the superuser app has shown up in my menu and the hboot menu shows S-Off.
First thing i did was to do a back up that i have saved to my computer..
I then moved on to Root the rom and it showed as being complete
When i installed root check from the market i get some problems. The first is : Application superuser has stopped unexpectedly. I have to force close the app to continue. Root check then tells me that "Root Access is not properly configured or was not granted"
Anyone have any ideas about what i did wrong ???
2) if i cant root the rom should i just install a new custom rom. Does anyone know what is the best GB rom with a new sense (not bothered about what one) i should install. Not worried about App to sd yet as i thought if i start small with a stable rom then i can always change to a rom with app to sd built in at a later time once i get used to changing roms
Thanks for your help as i said i really dont want to brick the phone as i will lost internet access and will be stuck till i get home.
Thanks Guys
BTW big thanks to the clockwork guys for all there hard work

When your phone is s-off, you don't have to root it (or rather the os). So if the s-off process finishes (you cannot s-off with a recovery, so I assume you did it with revolutionary), just flash a rom with root access and you're done.
There is no "best rom". It depends on personal preferences. Just try.

yes i used the revolutionary way to s-off and install the recovery files and i have to say it works very very well very easy to understand
Thanks for the info about rooting the rom. I think i understand now
so can i install any rom now as i updated to the offical gingerbread ruu when it came out ?
If so can you recommend a good gingerbread rom with a newish sense on ?

rosscobley said:
yes i used the revolutionary way to s-off and install the recovery files and i have to say it works very very well very easy to understand
Thanks for the info about rooting the rom. I think i understand now
so can i install any rom now as i updated to the offical gingerbread ruu when it came out ?
If so can you recommend a good gingerbread rom with a newish sense on ?
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After you run the revolutionary process successful, flash a custom recovery with fastboot (how to use fastboot -> see my sig). I recommend 4ext or rmd. Now boot into recovery, make a full wipe and flash any rom you want (save important first). Just follow the given instructions in the corresponding thread.
For the sense rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328

thanks guys. I think im going to give the AceSMod007-Lite (Sense2.1+3.0 GB ) a go as a lot of people recommend it. 1 quick question.
Can i install this rom even though i installed the offical RUU Gingerbread update and s-off'ed using revolutionary??
Thanks Guys

sorry one more question.
I did a backup of my rom via recovery. If i dont like the new Rom can i just restore to my standard rom via retore in recovery mode?

Yes, you can. Just wipe everything and restore. If you cannot to this, a backup would be senseless, don't you think?
Swyped from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App

Thank you soooooooo much. I just flashed the rom and eveything is working perfect
my phone now shows that i have :
885 MB on Ext Partition
34.27 MB on /data
3.97 MB on /System
Does that sound right?

Looks fine.
Swyped from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App

Installing custom ROM after stock ROM 2.2.1

Hi,
I've a Wildfire with the stock ROM 2.2.1. Now i want to upgrade it to some custom ROM. Is it possible for me to Root and install a Custom ROM in my Wildfire. Till now i've not rooted this fone and also heard that after upgrading to stock ROM 2.2.1 it's not possible. Searched the Forum but could not find the relevant thread. Would be thankful if someone can guide me to proper thread or solution.

naveenbhatia said:
Hi,
I've a Wildfire with the stock ROM 2.2.1. Now i want to upgrade it to some custom ROM. Is it possible for me to Root and install a Custom ROM in my Wildfire. Till now i've not rooted this fone and also heard that after upgrading to stock ROM 2.2.1 it's not possible. Searched the Forum but could not find the relevant thread. Would be thankful if someone can guide me to proper thread or solution.
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Hi
Once you root your phone, you can flash any rom. Which hboot are you on ?
This will make it easy for you to search the right ans.
I suppose u have hboot 1.01.002..
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Hi,
Thanks for reply. Yes you are right the hboot is 1.01.002
Radio is 3.35.20.10
Is it possible to root this?
Other details are:
baseband version: 13.55.55.24h_3.35.20.10
Kernel version : 2.6 32.21
Software number: 2.25.720.1

Yes its possible, I had the same.
Go to htcdev.com and unlock ur bootlaoder, no downgrade needed..instructions are there on the site as to how to unlock it.
Use gingerbreak or z4root or 1click root or any such tiny app and you will be rooted.

gobz said:
Yes its possible, I had the same.
Go to htcdev.com and unlock ur bootlaoder, no downgrade needed..instructions are there on the site as to how to unlock it.
Use gingerbreak or z4root or 1click root or any such tiny app and you will be rooted.
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Thanks for the Reply Gobz. I will surely try this.
@Gobz: This worked like charm. Now i am able to install the custom ROM