Hi there pretty much New to Android I started off with the Galaxy Glide from Rogers Im in Canada
Im pretty sure from what I've been reading its the same as AT&T Captivate Glide
I would like to know if there are any programs to unlock my phone I am running Android 2.3.5 Gingerbread I have seen earlier programs for 2.2 froyo but none for Gingerbread
I love the phone, but Rogers has to go
Thanks for any help
brightboyz Toronto Canada
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Hiya xda!
I realize there is no Xperia Pro section people just post here about Pro with a {PRO} stub in the front so I hope it's alright..
So I just bought an Xperia Pro with prior knowledge that it is locked to Fido Canada. But I bought it anyways with the sole purpose of modding/hacking it. I currently have a HTC Desire Z that I'm using that was locked to Bell Canada. I debranded it, unlocked it, rooted and flashed CWM installed CM7 on it.
So if the next section is tl;dr, skip to the where the asterisks are I guess.
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So maybe I should give a little background about myself since this is like my first proper post. My first phone was a was a robust Siemens but it was black and white and I dropped it in the sea so let's just skip that. Then came my second phone which kicked off my modding life/career. It was a Motorola E398 (nostalgia.. I know right?). It was an awesome phone in which the speakers were so kickass that it's primary vibrator was the low bassy frequencies of the speaker. Anyways, it was awesome but being the son of an engineer and an avid DIY kind of guy I knew that I could make it more awesome.
It was released in 2004 but when my mom handed it down to me in 2005 I started my research and became active in the modding community. Basically I was trying to make this "dumb" phone that I had as "smart" as possible in the era when O2 just released the xda for which this community is now named after. (I developed this personality along the lines of "poverty is the mother of ingenuity" kind of thing. Not that my family was poor, but my parents deprived me of material when I was surrounded with "friends"/a**holes/classmates who swam in it like Scrooge Mcduck. I am so grateful now because I can do so much more than them at this stage now).
Since then my motto has been "The software doesn't matter because that can always change." (Of course it's all that matters but that's what I tell people who tell me not to buy HTC but Sony because it comes bundled with some panorama app..)
Then I got two Asus Windows Mobile hand-me-downs from my dad and I started to spend a lot of time here on xda devs learning the ropes and what not. Soon after my dad got tired of me "physically/hardware-ally" messing up the phones (I had to replace the resistive touch screen of my P535 twice and till this day it still has a cracked glass layer because I didn't replace it the third time).
But then I started college and I had the freedom to move up (starting from small beginnings). And that was when I got my second hand Bell Canada branded Desire Z. And that brings me to this day with a Fido locked Xperia Pro sitting next to me with the film still on it (It's second hand, but new, so probably an unwanted gift or something so I got it for a deal )
I realize that I've only mentioned some 4 or 5 phones here (there were some 2 or 3 filler phones that were too "dumb" to mod, I guess there was also my gramps I9000i which I fitted CM7 onto) and so my phone resume isn't that great but I guess I've to be proud with what I have under my belt so far. I'm 19 in 2012 so I've been modding some 8 years since I was 11.
So although I have spent a a lot time lurking the web and modding/hacking phones, notice that I never use the word "development" because to be honest I haven't done any. Up to this point I can follow/understand relatively complex instructions, including, but not limited to, how to debug over ADB and etc. But I'm still an undergraduate majoring in Mathematics B.S Computational Mathematics Option, all the while diligently going through my introductory C++ course.
I hope I haven't broken any "off-topic" rules in this self introductory section of mine.
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So as you can see I'm not professional or anything, so the first question I'd like to ask is why there seems to be so little third party community support for this phone.. It has been released for over a year now and the search bar still seems to be evading this one in favor for all the other 2011 Xperias. There isn't even an official section for this thing here nor is there official support for it from the CM community (I'm not asking for ETAs).
So getting down to the more technical stuff. I didn't spend a dime transforming my Bell Desire Z from the cave-man-phone that it was into this Terminator it is today. I found methods to sim unlock, debrand, root and everything all just using a mini USB cable connected to the computer. I assumed the same when I got the Pro but I guess I was mistaken? It seems that the only way to sim unlock it now is to use a code or SETools2.
So the main thing is, I know that SETools2 does a multi-unlock (network, bootloader and fastboot) but what if I did them all separately? What if I bought one of those standalone sim unlock codes and then followed instructions here to unlock the bootloader afterwards. Would that work permanently? Or are the codes just some non-permanent "patches".
The simlock seems to be the biggest obstacle right now. I've read all the stuff thereafter to get to my goal, CM9 (the bootloader unlocking, rooting and firmware flashing seems to be composed of instructions that I can follow)
But there also seem to be some new thingymabobs flying around. Like, there seems to be an optimum "baseband" version to work with but heck I don't know how it fits into the context of Pro..
Any help would be appreciated. I appreciate it even if you've merely skimmed my super long rant post
Thank You in advance.
Cheers!
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Holy s**t - you're just like me, going from a Bell HTC Desire Z (great phone btw) to a Sony Ericsson Xperia Pro. I personally switched to Fido because bell has poor indoor reception in the parts of Ottawa and Toronto that I frequent.
I too intended to mod the phone. I checked on the CM website that the device was officially supported before making my purchase. At the time, I was unaware there was such a thing as a locked bootloader (pardon my noobiness).
Even till now, I am 150% positive, it is impossible to unlock the bootloader. Sony and/or Rogers went out of their way to prevent bootloader unlocking for this phone.
Worse still, I couldn't even SIM-unlock the phone (buying a code from sites like cellunlocker.net) and I am fairly certain the new security MCUs are responsible for causing the code to be rejected!
I managed to swap the phone for an LG Optimus 2X with Fido. Unlocked the 2X by code, flashed CM7, waited forever for the European model to get ICS sources, now running official CM10
I'd suggest you try selling the phone or see if you can get an upgrade with Fido if you're on a contract (they have great discounts on last-gen high end models like the Galaxy Nexus and HTC One S).
It's f***ing ironic - Sony has been praised for supporting the Freexperia project and even giving binaries to help with AOSP rom development, yet any carrier-branded handset after 2012 can't be flashed with custom ROMs due to tightly locked bootloaders.
Moral of the story: if you buy an Xperia after 2012, make sure it's an unlocked and unbranded version as only those are guaranteed to have unlockable bootloaders. Even if you buy a carrier locked version and SIM unlock it with a code, it does jack s**t when it comes to the bootloader status.
So, I just did my phone upgrade last week, for those who did not see my initial post on the bootloader issue with the ION.
I upgraded from Galaxy S2 i777 AT&T to the Sony Xperia ION AT&T, little did I know about the the bootloader issue when I got the ION.
Now I am considering taking this ION back for one of the following. Please keep in mind, I enjoy having the ability to install ROMs/Kernels.
Here are the other phones I am considering, I would really appreciate pros and cons and opinions. Even if the opinion is to keep the ION.
Phones I am Considering.
LG Nitro HD (bootloader? Support CWM? Roms/Kernels?)
LG Escape (bootloader? Support CWM? Roms/Kernels?)
Motorola Atrix HD (bootloader? Support CWM? Roms/Kernels?)
Samsung Galaxy S2 (Yes same one I had, gave my original to my Father)
Sony Xperia TL (bootloader? Support CWM? Roms/Kernels?)
I know not everyone will know EVERYTHING about EVERY device. I am just looking for opinions. And if you know offhand, on weather bootloader is unlockable,,,or needs to be?
Should I hold out on the ION and wait for bootloader unlock?
Should I just go back to Galaxy S2 i777?
I am now researching all of these phones and I made a small list of things I would like to have (besides Kernel/Rom)
FM Transmitter (My Saturn Vue has an AUX 3.5mm slot which is nice, but my GMC Envoy does not and am forced to use addon 3rd party FM transmitter...BLAH)
8gb ish internal storage
MicroSD access without having to pull out the battery (Im looking at you Galaxy S2 i777)
720p Screen
4" minimum screen
So what do you guys think? Hold out on bootloader unlock for ion? Or choose to pick a new phone or go back with Galaxy S2.
Any help and or opinions are very much appreciated.
On a side note, I submitted my MIME(sp?) through the sony unlock website for the ION and got an email with a code for it. (LT28at) But cannot enter fastboot mode.
Unless I have to call Sony or something...but that is an entirely different topic belonging in Q/A.
Thanks for reading.
considering your options !
i will recommend you to go for none of the above !
talking about the lg nitro, the screen is a marvel but battery is really horrible !
there are custom roms but dont expect lg to release official jb for this anytime soon ! i am saying this as i owned a nitro before !
atrix hd has official jb 4.1.2 but bootloader is locked or you have to use bootstrap recovery and it only has a couple of custom roms and frankly i dont think it will get future updates and roms !
lg escape just has root atm and no custom roms !!
i maybe wrong over here though !
i wouldn't even recommend going back to s2 as you've already used it before and is a much older device now !
you may choose and xperia t/tl or any other samsung/xperia (ones with krait cores) if you like to flash custom roms !!
good luck choosing the right one !
TL has locked bootloader but its a great phone. Love mine.
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Almost every phone for ATT has nonunlockable bootloaders. There are a few that you can circumvent using tricks but they can be risky. Sounds like your best bet is just to buy an unlocked phone. It is expensive but worth it IMHO.
Wait, and buy an Xperia ZL
I love my ION from att. It's locked but it was FREE.
I just looked ifs free again w/upgrade, the TL is only $50.
I say get the free one and save up for a unlocked model to play with. SPECTRE51 will tell you how easily he switches thru 4 devices
~Jaramie
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ToledoJab said:
I love my ION from att. It's locked but it was FREE.
I just looked ifs free again w/upgrade, the TL is only $50.
I say get the free one and save up for a unlocked model to play with. SPECTRE51 will tell you how easily he switches thru 4 devices
~Jaramie
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Yep that's what I love about AT&T. just swapping the sim card and using a different phone.
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Wait, and buy an Xperia ZL
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This :good:
Better to wait for the Z/ZL than your options
I miss my gs2
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is it possible to get a used R800 for around 60 USD?
i don't think so
used xperia plays are about 100$ i think
and also i will tell you don't buy this phone
but an arc instead of this phone
xperia play section is dead
I'm pretty sure you can look on eBay for Plays. The R800x's sell for steroids 60 and below.
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R800x are dirt cheap on eBay, you can get it for even less than $60. It's a lot easier top unlock them the R800a version too.
Don't listen to the guy in second post. Not even sure why you're in a forum of the same device you're telling others to not buy. So what if there are no more updates, doesn't mean the device is useless. Besides it's incorrect to say there are n I devs working on it.
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im on this device because i made a mistake
i didnt buy galaxy s2 when i could and now i have to deal with my phone (now the touchscreen is broken and im going to move to nexus 5 soon)
i only told him my experience
when he can buy an arc with the same price what can cause him to buy xperia play?
being much heavier or the old 2.3 android or its ancient kernel?
I bought the Xperia play in August this year because it was a sale (100$) new and I needed a new phone. I actually regret this choice I thought more. Developers would work on this amazing device .
Dont blame it on the devs, blame it on sony for not releasing sources
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Be happy that there are devs even making roms for it, you aren't self entitled to any of it.
This phone work fine if you know how to customise it. Unlock the bootloader and install NXT rom, it work great if you don't mind sticking with Gingerbread.
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pedyvirus said:
i don't think so
used xperia plays are about 100$ i think
and also i will tell you don't buy this phone
but an arc instead of this phone
xperia play section is dead
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... i don't.... you realise the arc has no physical controls and will suck for playing games and emulators right?
eksasol said:
R800x are dirt cheap on eBay, you can get it for even less than $60. It's a lot easier top unlock them the R800a version too.
Don't listen to the guy in second post. Not even sure why you're in a forum of the same device you're telling others to not buy. So what if there are no more updates, doesn't mean the device is useless. Besides it's incorrect to say there are n I devs working on it.
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I do need the AT&T version to work with my sim.
i was looking at this one but, wasn't sure if it was stole and or could even be re used.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/att-sony-er...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
friend said if it was stolen it could be blocked form the AT&T network.
Also what features do the modded roms provide? overclocking? are they lighter? support newer apps?
cdoublejj said:
... i don't.... you realise the arc has no physical controls and will suck for playing games and emulators right?
I do need the AT&T version to work with my sim.
i was looking at this one but, wasn't sure if it was stole and or could even be re used.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/att-sony-er...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
friend said if it was stolen it could be blocked form the AT&T network.
Also what features do the modded roms provide? overclocking? are they lighter? support newer apps?
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You have to be careful buying from ebay. There are scenario where you can get a device that work now, then 2months later gets blocked by the carrier because the owner stopped paying his bills.
It's better if its a retailer with good feedbacks and accept returns. If it's possible, ask the person for the imei number so you can check it background, or ask him to check it and post a screenshot. You can check imei and esn numbers via these sites:
http://sndeep.info/en
http://checkesnfree.com
Also if you buy from swappa.com, they auto check imei number for all devices, however, again, it doesn't prevent the phone from being blacklisted if the owner of the phone is still in a contract and stopped paying.
You will want to get the R800a version since the R800i version will not work with 3G for ATT. I have owned all 3 versions, last I check, you can only unlock bootloader from Sony website for the R800i and R800x, not R800a. However, this website can unlock both sim and bootloader for the R800a I believe: http://www.wotanserver.com/en/sony-ericsson/xperia-play-r800/unlock-tool/debranding-flash
You basically get improved performance and more software features with custom roms. From my experience using Gingerbread custom roms like NXT gives best performance. Because lack of support from Sony and Qualcomm, ICS and JB roms aren't as fast.
You can check these guides for all the instruction with unlocking and installing rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1836530
You need to unlock bootloader, flash a custom kernel which will have ClockworkMod recovery integrated, boot into CWM recovery and flash the rom. Make sure the kernel you're using is compatible with that rom for it to boot.
eksasol said:
You have to be careful buying from ebay. There are scenario where you can get a device that work now, then 2months later gets blocked by the carrier because the owner stopped paying his bills.
It's better if its a retailer with good feedbacks and accept returns. If it's possible, ask the person for the imei number so you can check it background, or ask him to check it and post a screenshot. You can check imei and esn numbers via these sites:
http://sndeep.info/en
http://checkesnfree.com
Also if you buy from swappa.com, they auto check imei number for all devices, however, again, it doesn't prevent the phone from being blacklisted if the owner of the phone is still in a contract and stopped paying.
You will want to get the R800a version since the R800i version will not work with 3G for ATT. I have owned all 3 versions, last I check, you can only unlock bootloader from Sony website for the R800i and R800x, not R800a. However, this website can unlock both sim and bootloader for the R800a I believe: http://www.wotanserver.com/en/sony-ericsson/xperia-play-r800/unlock-tool/debranding-flash
You basically get improved performance and more software features with custom roms. From my experience using Gingerbread custom roms like NXT gives best performance. Because lack of support from Sony and Qualcomm, ICS and JB roms aren't as fast.
You can check these guides for all the instruction with unlocking and installing rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1836530
You need to unlock bootloader, flash a custom kernel which will have ClockworkMod recovery integrated, boot into CWM recovery and flash the rom. Make sure the kernel you're using is compatible with that rom for it to boot.
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you say that as if it might be difficult or impossible to unlock the boot loader unless i pay some one? also are you saying all the aftermarket roms are slower than the stock rom? does it even mater since it can be overclocked with 3rd party rom?
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you say that as if it might be difficult or impossible to unlock the boot loader unless i pay some one?
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To unlock the bootloader of a R800a there is a unlock code that needed to be purchased from Sony themselves, that is why the service cost money. You either have to go through Sony or pay a third party service, those are the only options.
also are you saying all the aftermarket roms are slower than the stock rom? does it even mater since it can be overclocked with 3rd party rom?
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That is not what I am saying, I'm saying GB run faster on this device from my experience only, compared to ICS and newer. There were never any official ICS release for the Play except a beta ICS version which ran poorly, the phone was stop being updated with Gingerbread. Sony and Qualcomm doesn't release some of the required hardware drivers for ICS/JB which is why its hard to make those version run fast.
You should have researched this device a little more before buying.
eksasol said:
To unlock the bootloader of a R800a there is a unlock code that needed to be purchased from Sony themselves, that is why the service cost money. You either have to go through Sony or pay a third party service, those are the only options.
That is not what I am saying, I'm saying GB run faster on this device from my experience only, compared to ICS and newer. There were never any official ICS release for the Play except a beta ICS version which ran poorly, the phone was stop being updated with Gingerbread. Sony and Qualcomm doesn't release some of the required hardware drivers for ICS/JB which is why its hard to make those version run fast.
You should have researched this device a little more before buying.
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Thank you for the information and the clarification. This sort of is my research. Half of the research was know what phone i'd want and one that works with AT&T. a side from androids with slide out keyboards this is the only option with physical controls and the only one that has controls good for gaming. that and the fact it has single core and can play games is all i really know about it. i figured it wasp popular enough to have some roms for it but, that's it.
i'll take a look at the cost of the unlock service assuming i don't have to mail it to the UK (live in US). i'll consider the unlock price and try to find a cheap r800a/r800at.
Your info has been REALLY helpful aside from my current crap Pantec P8000 my last serious smart phone was the 2006 Black Jack. Suffice to say iv'e been out of the phone game for a while.
cdoublejj said:
Thank you for the information and the clarification. This sort of is my research. Half of the research was know what phone i'd want and one that works with AT&T. a side from androids with slide out keyboards this is the only option with physical controls and the only one that has controls good for gaming. that and the fact it has single core and can play games is all i really know about it. i figured it wasp popular enough to have some roms for it but, that's it.
i'll take a look at the cost of the unlock service assuming i don't have to mail it to the UK (live in US). i'll consider the unlock price and try to find a cheap r800a/r800at.
Your info has been REALLY helpful aside from my current crap Pantec P8000 my last serious smart phone was the 2006 Black Jack. Suffice to say iv'e been out of the phone game for a while.
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You won't have to mail in the device, I didn't use the WotanServer service, but other members have tried with success, it should be something you can do using their software.
The only difficult part is getting the drivers recognized by your PC. I was not able to get the drivers recognized with Windows 8, you might have to use Windows 7 or older. The unlocking software will have the drivers included though. But if you read through the flashing guides I linked it should show you how to install the necessary drivers.
Personally I don't use the Play as my daily driver, but as a back up. A lot of apps I use required Android 4+, and I only feel Android 2.x is fast enough on this device for me, but others might disagree. It's not fast enough to play many of the newer graphic demanding games smoothly, but for 2D and not too demanding games it's a winner.
There are several hardware issues that can occur with this phone like the 'flex cable' going bad, which is the cable that connect between to two halves of the phone. But honestly I've never had that issue from the 5 Play that I used. It's actually one of the more durable smartphone I've used even with the sliding mechanism. If you get protection accessories for it and be careful each time you side out the gamepad it should last. It have one of the most durable microUSB port for an Android phone I think.
Also it have excellent stereo speaker. The R800i/R800a version have pretty decent GPS signal, since it also support GLONASS. The R800x do not support GLONASS and have poorer signal.
My preferred idea is still to buy a cheap Verizon R800x for $60 or less, which bootloader can be unlocked from Sony website. Then buy a better daily driver phone. One thing you should know about the R800x is that it can run any of the GSM (R800i/R800a) Gingerbread roms and most kernels, you lose calling ability with GSM roms but you won't be using Verizon anyway. For ICS/JB/KitKat roms, there are usually CDMA version for it as well. It's pretty hard to brick to this device, you can always use Flashtool to restore factory stock image. I feel the R800x version is fastest since it actually use stock Android, compared to the R800i/a which uses Sony UI overlay. It's "fast" even with stock rom and stock kernel, just rooting and deleting bloatwares are enough. You don't need unlocked bootloader to root.
well if i was gonna carry 2 devices i'd just get a used PSP (possibly for free).
it isn't too bad performance wise i've seen it play crazy taxi and GTA III and jetset radio which are them sot demanding android games i want. i've also seen it play Need for Speed 3 on the PS1 emulator. also you can overclock on the custom roms.
it's also said it has long battery life, i may have read that in this thread 9o've had a long evening). I've replaced a flex cable in A* phone before so it breaks i'm not be SOL.
My newly obstacle is getting it on the cheap.
the only thing i'm un sure about is the on screen keyboard. i have a low resolution device and tend to the use physical keyboard more than the screen. i know R800 is higher resolution than the device i have now so maybe i will be able to cope. not a bad trade off consider all the other pluses and pro vs the cons.
EDIT: too bad they never made the PSP phone 2.
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well if i was gonna carry 2 devices i'd just get a used PSP (possibly for free).
it isn't too bad performance wise i've seen it play crazy taxi and GTA III and jetset radio which are them sot demanding android games i want. i've also seen it play Need for Speed 3 on the PS1 emulator. also you can overclock on the custom roms.
it's also said it has long battery life, i may have read that in this thread 9o've had a long evening). I've replaced a flex cable in A* phone before so it breaks i'm not be SOL.
My newly obstacle is getting it on the cheap.
the only thing i'm un sure about is the on screen keyboard. i have a low resolution device and tend to the use physical keyboard more than the screen. i know R800 is higher resolution than the device i have now so maybe i will be able to cope. not a bad trade off consider all the other pluses and pro vs the cons.
EDIT: too bad they never made the PSP phone 2.
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The R800i/a stock keyboards have gesture typing, but its not very good. But you can buy Swype keyboard which is pretty good, maybe Swiftkey support Gingerbread as well. A lot of Play and other Sony devices have a layer of screen protector installed by the manufacturer, removing it can help with the touch sensitivity and sometimes viewing angle.
This device does have decent battery life, but you should get a new battery.
Hey guys. I am completely new to this forum but I wanted to ask a quick questions to those of you who own the phone. I am currently looking for a backup device and just a general android device to mess around with and I was able to find a Verizon (which is my carrier) Galaxy Nexus for relatively cheap for what the device is, aka a working phone with blutooth, unlockable bootloader, root, and lollipop roms. If I can find it for as cheap as, say 60 dollars, is that a good deal for a device that I am just going to experiment with? And are there any known issues with lollipop and verizon, because there were numerous issues with my old phone, galaxy s3, and continued rom support. Thanks for any feedback!
Sidenote: I have a perfectly functioning Droid Turbo for Verizon so this phone would be in no way a daily driver, just a mess around device to possible listen to music.