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[Q] Possible upgrade to Desire HD from original Desire

Hi, I have had my Desire for over 10 month now, I'm mostly satisfied, but there are a couple of things that bug me, first the f*cking tiny nand and second outdated CPU and GPU. I was thinking Desire HD might be a good upgrade, since Desire S has a small screen and can't be rooted and Incredible S is too expensive and can't yet be rooted, and the back of it looks horrible. But, there are a few things I need to know:
1. How's the sound quality of DHD? Since I read in GSMArena that it's not so great, and it's pretty important for me.
2. Battery life compared to Desire.
3.What's your opinion on this upgrade?
Thanks in advance.

I think there are better phones out there to upgrade.
My phone is the desire hd and many friends still have the desire.
The external speaker quality is bad, the headset quality is good.
Battery life is good, 2 days with low usage, 1 day with high usage. I think no big difference between the desire.

If you are on amoled display with the desire maybe the display will be a little annoying as the LCD on HD isn`t the best...as KaseDesire mentioned the speaker is really bad and the camera isn`t very good either because the sound record quality kinda sucks but it depends on how much money you can get it and so on, the build quality is very nice but at this momment duno if it`s really the best choice, maybe wait for next gen phones, the best is if you have a friend with HD and ask him to let you play with it a bit so you can see exactly if it fits you because for some people even the big display can be a no go.

Custom Desire ROM with overclock and apps2sd should sort you out for now, perhaps?

3. Why not going for a newer device, like the sensation for example if you are upgrading now or Galaxy S 2 (if you don't mind a samsung mobile -well I do mind for myself xD-)
1&2. For me the DHD with ARHD Rom and 3.0 sense addons is very good and fast, battery lasts for 14-18 hours with heavy usage. Sound quality is brilliant.

Should I buy a Desire?

Hi guys,
I've got a htc wildfire and I'd like to upgrade it to something better. Desire fits my price range but I have some doubts.
A lot of htc phones share a common grounding problem. When you put your phone in a car cradle/holder or on a soft surface like sofa or pillow screen does not respond as it should. Please check the videos;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s30h7Uh6-CI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbIrdQ3ejDI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss81Y124GeY#t=50s
(if you use 2 fingers it won't be a problem as your second finger will be completing the ground circuit. but it is quite dangerous to use your both hands to click on a battery warning box while riding a motorbike)
I use my phone as a satnav a lot. So it would be a major issue for me if you guys phones suffer the same issue.
Could you guys just try it on a pillow/cushion for me please?
Cheers

Never had that issue, that's some b0rked handsets dude, maybe they were dry or whatever.
Well about buying Desire, if you will Root it then it's surely worth it.

in my opinion, desire it's really outdated now
if you can, better go for the desire s, it is going to replace the desire "original"
i never saw that issues on my desire..

I cant replicate that bug, as suggested above that phone must me broken.
Desire is a bit old now but still a good device with lots of dev support here, many roms to choose from.
Downsides...battery will last a day if your lucky, limited internal memory, no multitouch (dual touch only).
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I can only confirm that the grounding bug is not a common issue. My old (AMOLED) desire does not have it. Since the whole back of desire is made from removable soft-plastic cover, I see no reason why this can be (other than liquid damage).
About buying a Desire today, its worth it IF you can find original AMOLED version. If you get SLCD version, then its better to go with either Incredible S or Desire S. Avoid Desire HD since the screen on that one is very poor quality (color and contrasts are very weak).

Never heard of such issue on the original Desire. Not sure about S, but other HTC phones have that issue, yes. Desire is a good phone, very good actually, by be prepared to learn about a2sd+ or CM7 hboot if you want to install more than a handful of apps. If you don't want to root, then go for desire s.
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calyxim said:
Hi guys,
I've got a htc wildfire and I'd like to upgrade it to something better.
Cheers
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Going from Wildfire -> Desire (even SLCD) is going to be a HUGE improvement. So if price of Desire S/Incredible S is way more, then go for it. Desire should be a good improvement.
Main downside with Desire:
Battery will be weaker compared to wildfire.
GPU performance is not on par with current phones (Desire S etc are much faster). But still better than wildfire!
All other issues can be solved with root/custom ROM.

asestar said:
Main downside with Desire:
Battery will be weaker compared to wildfire.
GPU performance is not on par with current phones (Desire S etc are much faster). But still better than wildfire!
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How can u compare battery life of Desire and Wildfire?
Wildfire: 3,2" screen with 240x320 res, 384mb RAM, cpu 528mhz
Desire: 3,7" screen 480x800, 576mb RAM, cpu 1GHZ
It's obvious that wildfire might have better battery life since it's **** phone, lol.
And tbh 1 day of heavy use with smartphone is not a bad result, those phones are made for it. If you want 1 week battery life buy Nokia 3310.

Compared to Wildfire Desire's memory is huge
I can overcome battery issue by buying 3 spare chinese batteries for peanuts as I did before for my wildfire. (touch wood they are still strong after 5 months)
There is only one amoled Desire on ebay which is a bit overpriced. (200 pounds)
Thanks for the heads up guys. I'll keep digging...

k3lcior said:
How can u compare battery life of Desire and Wildfire?
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Simply by how many hours you can use a phone while staying away from a cable
I know they have vastly different hardware, but come on. If you are used to 2-3 days on 1 charge, having to charge every night is gonna be something you will need to get used to.
I remember having around 2 days battery life with my Desire last year when 2.2 upgrade came (some time in september/october). So battery age can also be an issue.

calyxim said:
Compared to Wildfire Desire's memory is huge
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Im not sure about that, because the free memory available is only 140 mb to install apps (the rest of the memory is occupied by the rom itself)

But that is solved by root and app2sd/data2sd rom. I got 78mb free + 350mb on ext3 SD, making me never worry about space.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

I have the Desire and my other half has the Wildfire. I'm sure if you went from the Wildfire to the Desire you would be happy. As others have said, the Desire might not be bleeding edge now (but it is far from "outdated"). There are plenty of ROM's to choose from if you don't get on with the standard. I also have not experienced any touch screen weirdness - I have even used my desire on my motorbike in that past without problem.
You certainly could do worse.

Nice option!
With all the support this device is getting from devs?thats more than enough for you to consider.
But sorry, i dont have a bike.lol
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Desire.....Its rather hot when its working, and the poor battery life... wait for some better options.

I have my Desire for 2 years almost and I am very happy with it. The memory issue is easy to bypass with some custom ROM.
But TODAY I would not buy the Desire as it is a little outdated. Yes I would stick to HTC any day and go for the Desire S or the Sensation. But then again, it is your choice and you budget

Oh yes. Desire is a great phone, really powerful, and in late 2011, it's a much cheaper choice than a Sensation for example (which seems to be the top), I suggest you to buy a second hand Desire, root it and use custom roms, I haven't done it yet, but I used my friends Desire for a day, which had a custom rom with Gingerbread, and it was smooth as silk.
so, I wouldn't call it outdated yet. less powerful than the new ones? true.

I would suggest Desire as
1.its much cheaper than Sensation
2.it would take time for the dual core phones to reach to their full potential
3.only few games require dual core
4.you can run sense 3.0 and 3.5 sense roms which run very smoothly
5.it is widely supported by devs
I believe Desire will never be outdated

Go for it, desire has a great dev community too
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I'm sorry for jacking the thread, but the noob video said to do that right ?
I'm in the same boat as the OP, current HTC wildfire owner, and sick to death of it. My main problem is the slowness and cr*p screen.
So anyway, I've been looking for an update, and i'm strongly leaning towards the desire. I can get it for 300 eur, and maybe I can sell my wildfire for 50-100 to some poor sod cruel. The desire S is 399, which is a tad high but *might* be considered if it's really deemed that much faster.
I just want a cellphone with a good screen and better text input (the wildfire's screen is way too small for texting efficiently), which is a reason why i'm leaning towards the desire Z (with keyboard). I know it's not as powerful as the other desire models, but still.
Custom rome are a requirement. Maybe not right away, but if i find something I don't like i'd like to be able to change it.
I can go on for a while like this, so i'll KISS, phone requirements:
- good screen (big enough, resolution)
- GPS (doesn't have to be state of the art, it just has to have a radio)
- Bluetooth
- Good input method (implies a larger screen or, preferably a hard press keyboard)
- I prefer hard buttons on the bottom instead of touch ones; i won't press them by accident (= annoying on wildfire)
- Responsive
- Not too expensive
I don't care about anything else, so the GPU makes no real difference to me i think, unless it really helps with anything besides games. Are any of the desire series a good match or would I be better off sticking with the wildfire until i can get something high budget ?

Should I "REALLY" upgrade to SGSII?

So I have the Vibrant, and starting Friday Tmobile is having a sale on select phones. SGSII is one of them, and I am thinking about getting it.
I went to the Tmo store today and took a look at their display phone. It seemed a little choppy for a 1.5 dual core, at least the launcher did. I took a look at the battery status, and it showed 26 hours with 71% left! That made me happy but saw the screen was only used for fifteen minutes, still not too bad.
I have also heard that it doesn't get good battery life and will get about 10 hours on moderate use.
I was wondering if someone could enlighten me on the phone, and share some of the experiences you have had since getting it, thanks!
EDIT: Yes, even on videos there is some definite lag, like WTF Samsung? 1.5 Ghz and you still have lag?.....

Yes! Yes! I didn't notice too much lag when I first picked it up, but I rooted and flashed a rom the first night so its hard to say With all the new roms coming out, the phone just keeps getting better and better.
Right now mine last atleast 2 days with average use.

I rooted froze the bloat was getting 34 hours with medium amount to usage..that was on Stock

I see, I guess Ill have to go back and play with it some more before I make up my mind. The only thing that stopped me from buying it the day it came out was the screen is the same resolution as the Vibrant...
How is the camera and flash?

I get no lag on roms using Faux's kernel. The real value of any android is rom usage for me..i never use stock.
That being said, what are you using it for, texting/IM/app usage should be just as functional on an older phone than on the GSII, just the GSII is faster.

Rekzer said:
I get no lag on roms using Faux's kernel. The real value of any android is rom usage for me..i never use stock.
That being said, what are you using it for, texting/IM/app usage should be just as functional on an older phone than on the GSII, just the GSII is faster.
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Thats true, ya you know basic stuff. I mean I do flash my Vibrant ALOT but only because stock sucked.
Im just more concerned on battery life too because I don't want to go from one phone that I had to always monitor my use to a another one to do the same thing.

I got it coming from the vibrant my self, simply to get gps. This thing has awesome gps...but for me, my vibrant was on CM7/MIUI, beautiful, fast as hell with good battery life and upgrading to this phone has felt like downgrading so far. Still waiting on ICS/MIUI...So if you're good with going back to stock looking (ics themed, on a custom rom) 2.3 go for it...otherwise I'd wait. Another selling point was the fast ass 4G, and let me tell you, unless you're under a tower, don't expect to see any kind of improvement. I peaked at 19.1Mbits today...otherwise avg speed test is 3-7, where my vibrant was consistently 4-6.5 or so...Again, not to sell the phone short...it is faster than the vibrant with web pages / installing apps etc. ...but over all IMO not that big of a difference. I'm keeping it till either a new HTC phone comes out with a 4.5+ screen or, ICS/CM9 drops...whatever comes first I guess.
Call quality over 3.5mm jack is awful as well..When I call someone it rings lound, 2nd ring is really low...and I am constantly having to talk loud and keep the phone close in my work van, otherwise ppl cant hear me well..I think this is due to the 2nd mic on top..VIB had an amazing microphone, i could talk in a normal voice with the phone mounted on the windshield no probs..
BTW: I will give props to the fact that the custom rom I am on is 100% functional...my ***** is not with the rom...as both stock and custom work the same exact way. Any rom i'd flash on the vib always had some weird quirk.

accordex said:
I got it coming from the vibrant my self, simply to get gps. This thing has awesome gps...but for me, my vibrant was on CM7/MIUI, beautiful, fast as hell with good battery life and upgrading to this phone has felt like downgrading so far. Still waiting on ICS/MIUI...So if you're good with going back to stock looking (ics themed, on a custom rom) 2.3 go for it...otherwise I'd wait. Another selling point was the fast ass 4G, and let me tell you, unless you're under a tower, don't expect to see any kind of improvement. I peaked at 19.1Mbits today...otherwise avg speed test is 3-7, where my vibrant was consistently 4-6.5 or so...Again, not to sell the phone short...it is faster than the vibrant with web pages / installing apps etc. ...but over all IMO not that big of a difference. I'm keeping it till either a new HTC phone comes out with a 4.5+ screen or, ICS/CM9 drops...whatever comes first I guess.
Call quality over 3.5mm jack is awful as well..When I call someone it rings lound, 2nd ring is really low...and I am constantly having to talk loud and keep the phone close in my work van, otherwise ppl cant hear me well..I think this is due to the 2nd mic on top..VIB had an amazing microphone, i could talk in a normal voice with the phone mounted on the windshield no probs..
BTW: I will give props to the fact that the custom rom I am on is 100% functional...my ***** is not with the rom...as both stock and custom work the same exact way. Any rom i'd flash on the vib always had some weird quirk.
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This is exactly what i was looking for! Thanks for the honest opinion. I really want to upgrade to a new phone, but you are difinitely right. There probably isn't that much of a difference except browsing and installing apps, gps, etc. Which isn't that bad on the vibrant, but GPS sucks !
I think I'll wait a bit longer and not jump the gun on this offer, I feel there might be something around the corner since they are offering such a nice discount.
Thanks again for everyones responses

There is...HTC edge is strongly rumored with quad core tegra 3...and if not GS3 should be within a few months too...

yea if i were you i'd probably wait for quad core too.

Yeah heard theres a rumor of at least the GS3 being announced in February.

Like another member posted. If my Mytouch 4g did not take a dive with me I would still be using it. So far I feel like the SGS2 is a downgrade. Keep your phone and spend the money on a tablet...hehe

I loved my vibrant LOVED the damn thing but twords the end it got a little meh. Then i got the SGS II (only been two months or so i know) DAMN does this thing fly during daily use. It might be that i got a bad referb whenever i broke my vibrant and did a warranty exchange however needly this thing is great. I use it for my daily driver and have gone back to the CM7 vibrant and its just amazing.

i say do it. there wont be another phone out for at least 2-4 months. so i say do it. it reallly is a great phone. only flaws that i care about is there is no dedicated camera button

If it werent for the fact that Telus takes forever to get new phones(Just got the GSII in nov), id have waited to. But im really happy with my GSII, i dont see a need for a quad till next year. I wont get a new phone till it has cyanogen ALREADY running on it as well, as im tired of this wait.

Rekzer said:
If it werent for the fact that Telus takes forever to get new phones(Just got the GSII in nov), id have waited to. But im really happy with my GSII, i dont see a need for a quad till next year. I wont get a new phone till it has cyanogen ALREADY running on it as well, as im tired of this wait.
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Exactly... when I bought the vib at 2.1 fw... there was already 2.3 roms out... this has been out longer with not even a trace of ics or cm9 ...kinda has me worried... seems like the vibrant left a bad taste in everyones mouth.... and not too many people jumping on this phone....weird...
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jzero88 said:
Yeah heard theres a rumor of at least the GS3 being announced in February.
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Probably not seeing as gs2 probably won't have ics by then.... and no way is Samsung and tmo introducing ics for gs2 and releasing gs3....they're not That dumb...but once they get rid of their gs2 supply with promise of ics and everyone is upgraded...they'll roll out gs3....
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I think the T989 is an excellent upgrade from the Vibrant. (I owned one a year ago and both of my parents currently own Vibrants as well.)
The camera on this thing is amazing; the flash alone makes it a great step up from a Vibrant. It's great in low-light scenarios, though not as good as the iPhone 4s. It's close though. (I'm convinced that the 4s has the best smartphone camera available, unfortunately.)
The front camera is a huge advantage for it too if you're planning on video chatting in the future. Don't expect works of art, though; it just works
If you use GPS navigation a lot, you need to upgrade to this. It's a night and day difference...unless you like searching out for the next GPS fix.
The design is much nicer, in my opinion, and I think this is the only phone I've used to date that has a speakerphone that's comparable to a Blackberry. It's loud and very clear, and it helps that its mic is fantastic.
Honestly, the screen isn't that much better than the original Galaxy S. It's definitely an improvement; contrast ratio is much better (as close to pure black as you'll get) and color temperature is actually correct on the stock ROM. However, you won't notice a crazy difference if you use Voodoo. I also hear that the screen on this variant is worse than the i9100 series, though I think you'll be happy with it nonetheless. (I also think those issues have been fixed; I bought mine this past Friday and the color temp is fine.)
HSPA+ on T-Mobile is sick. I finally have cable-like speeds in my house. If you plan on tethering a lot, the upgrade is worth it.
The negatives: Cyanogenmod isn't officially supported on this yet because the Galaxy S II ROM uses a different CPU (that is apparently faster than the one included on this one, but does not do HSPA+). The current builds available for it work very well at the expense of some battery life (for now) and NFC (which you won't care about anyway since Wallet will not work on the stock ROM).
TouchWiz sucks and it's loaded with heaps of bloatware. You can't tether out of the box unless you're on their tethering plan; this goes away after flashing CM or an alternative ROM.
So far, I'm loving it. I'm expecting it to be the best phone I've ever owned.
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And don't worry about ICS. Once the mainline Galaxy S II gets CM9 (there are alphas out already), this phone will get it very soon after.
Samsung will probably update it (late) next year if you want to go down that path.

This phone is a huge upgrade over the vibrant and is imo the best phone available on T-Mobile(officially). Here's what I got for battery life today. As you can see this was pretty heavy usage.
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I definitely would love to have a flash and a better camera, but even at a discounted price, well actually a $200 mail in rebate, I can't justify buying it, at least yet.
It also seems there isn't as much developement for SGSII as there is for the Vibrant, even today. It does seem that the SGSII has better battery life though. I think I'll be going to the Tmo store again tomorrow to test drive it again.

Thinking about buying...

So, I'm coming from an 3vo. I've only ever had HTC devices, but this phone is so sexy and snappy I'm thinking of stepping outside my box. The problem is I'm a slave to Sense. I love it. There are things about TW I hate (side scrolling app drawer). I've kind of been looking at a couple of roms, but there seems to be a lack of AOSP Roms. Seeing as how I went being seeing sense on this device, I wanted to get some opinions.
Is there anyone else that is/was in my situation that took the plunge? Tell me your thoughts.
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Well granted no Sense, but all the pluses far outweigh that one minus.
I haven't rooted my phone yet so I really have no input as to the various ROMs out there. But even stock I love this phone.
Case in point: It's 3:03am here in Cali, I should be in bed, but I'm talking about a phone LOL.

We all hate tw. But love the phone. The best after market launcher is launcher pro.
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if you root and custom rom... its even better
hi
the stock experience is pretty good.
if you root and custom rom , its even better, battery life, LOS, functionality, speed.
i love this phone.
i have used calkulin, awesome battery life, but too close to stock for me
i tried new senzation, ok, but battery life wasnt good.
i am now on the blazer rom, with the ICS themes and lock screens.
great battery life
i liked htc also, but this galaxy s2 is the beast.

My last 7 phones have been HTC. I also came from a EVO 3D and boy the best decision I ever made was to dump that thing.
I have owned the E4GT since release and I still love this thing like the day I got it. The 3D isn't even in the same league as this phone. Sense 3.0 was fun for a day and then it just wears off. Not giving you the ability to change how many rows and columns you want on your home screen, and not being able to resize widgets kind of puts the Sense Launcher further back in the game. How do you put out a device with a qhd screen and only put a 4x4 grid on the launcher?
What is it about Sense that you like and we can probably show you alternatives you can use that will give you the same look and feel.......
Oh yeah, we also have CM7 and MIUI. CM7 is not on this site but you can find it here:
http://rootzwiki.com/forum/237-sprint-epic-4g-touch-developer-forum/
The one thing I would say though, if you can hang on a bit longer you might want to just get an LTE phone when they start releasing. That would be the only reason to hang on to what you have right now but if money doesn't matter to you and you will get an LTE phone when they come out as well, then yes the E4GT is the true star here.
Oh yeah, one last thing...People usually think going with AOSP roms will give you better battery life and less lag, but on the E4GT you go both of those running any TW Rom as well. Nothing slows this baby down and lag is a thing of the past no matter what Rom you run. Battery life is also much better then HTC phones.

I just made the switch from the 3vo on Friday evening. My last 4 phones were all HTC. My girl has an Epic 4G so I have messed with TW before. There are some things I like about TW, some I don't, but the same could be said for Sense. I used to use Launcher Pro on my OG Evo, might try that on here soon or another launcher.
The only thing I don't like about the E4GT is the screen resolution. The screen on this phone is way better, the resolution being qHD on the 3vo was definitely better. You can make the text size smaller in the text message application at least. To bad you can't do that for the rest of the phone. You could be practically blind and still use this phone and it's giant dialer.
Beyond that battery life has been better than my 3vo (and despite heavy usage I had damn good battery life on that phone using custom ROM's.) I still haven't got to mess with as much as I would like due to working this weekend. I rooted it after less than an hour and am just running stock rooted for now. That way I could freeze bloatware and unwanted apps and get a better feel for the phone before switching to some custom ROM's. Debating about loading up rooted stock EL29 today since that is supposed to be the next OTA and will be out soon.
Lot of people have GPS issues, I only tested it briefly from my couch and it took about 2.5 minutes to lock. The 3vo was sitting next to it and locked in about 10 seconds. Not a huge deal to me as I have builtin navi in my car. This week I will be traveling for work and use the phone as my GPS in the rental car so will get a better idea if I have GPS issues.
Except for some issues related to my Airave the first night, I have had no other problems with the phone. I bought this one off contract and am quite happy I made the switch from the 3vo so far. Of course when all the new LTE phones start coming out this summer and fall, I'm sure I will be switching again.

blkhwkz said:
I just made the switch from the 3vo on Friday evening. My last 4 phones were all HTC. My girl has an Epic 4G so I have messed with TW before. There are some things I like about TW, some I don't, but the same could be said for Sense. I used to use Launcher Pro on my OG Evo, might try that on here soon or another launcher.
The only thing I don't like about the E4GT is the screen resolution. The screen on this phone is way better, the resolution being qHD on the 3vo was definitely better. You can make the text size smaller in the text message application at least. To bad you can't do that for the rest of the phone. You could be practically blind and still use this phone and it's giant dialer.
Beyond that battery life has been better than my 3vo (and despite heavy usage I had damn good battery life on that phone using custom ROM's.) I still haven't got to mess with as much as I would like due to working this weekend. I rooted it after less than an hour and am just running stock rooted for now. That way I could freeze bloatware and unwanted apps and get a better feel for the phone before switching to some custom ROM's. Debating about loading up rooted stock EL29 today since that is supposed to be the next OTA and will be out soon.
Lot of people have GPS issues, I only tested it briefly from my couch and it took about 2.5 minutes to lock. The 3vo was sitting next to it and locked in about 10 seconds. Not a huge deal to me as I have builtin navi in my car. This week I will be traveling for work and use the phone as my GPS in the rental car so will get a better idea if I have GPS issues.
Except for some issues related to my Airave the first night, I have had no other problems with the phone. I bought this one off contract and am quite happy I made the switch from the 3vo so far. Of course when all the new LTE phones start coming out this summer and fall, I'm sure I will be switching again.
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Check out my thread here for changing the resolution, you will love the phone even more at 720p...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363793

Dude there is a HTC sense theme that will give u the best of both worlds this beat of a phone plus sense widgets http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21551951
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No gps issue here get instant lock every where. It locks better that my garmin did before i sold it.
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srgwidowmaker said:
No gps issue here get instant lock every where. It locks better that my garmin did before i sold it.
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Same here, I get an instant lock. For anyone having issues I tell them to download GPS Test from the market. Go into it's settings and clear AGPS and Re-Download AGPS data. Get a lock in the app. After that you will have no GPS issues.
GPS is perfect on this phone and it is has become annoying listening to people claim the GPS chip sucks in this phone. I went on a 9 hour drive the other week both ways and not once did my GPS loose it's lock. I am pretty certain I didn't just get lucky and receive a better GPS receiver in my phone.
GPS Test and your done!

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Same here, I get an instant lock. For anyone having issues I tell them to download GPS Test from the market. Go into it's settings and clear AGPS and Re-Download AGPS data. Get a lock in the app. After that you will have no GPS issues.
GPS is perfect on this phone and it is has become annoying listening to people claim the GPS chip sucks in this phone. I went on a 9 hour drive the other week both ways and not once did my GPS loose it's lock. I am pretty certain I didn't just get lucky and receive a better GPS receiver in my phone.
GPS Test and your done!
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Definitely! GPS works perfect for me. I believe the people claiming to have GPS issues are the mole people Cause obviously GPS sucks underground.
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Just to throw in my two cents, I've been an HTC user for ages, got this 3 weeks ago, don't miss Sense *one bit*, thought I would.
And more ROMS seem to be added every week.
Do It. ;-)
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I came from an EVO and did not look back for a second. This is the best phone I have ever owned.

I jumped from an evo 4 g to the Sammy 4 g touch and omg. I'm regretting it.
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Callie_evo said:
I jumped from an evo 4 g to the Sammy 4 g touch and omg. I'm regretting it.
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why?
This phone is way faster, snappier, and has so much stability.
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There are plenty of roms and theme's to make this phone's expierience more enjoyable. Hands down you won't regret going to this phone.

Callie_evo said:
I jumped from an evo 4 g to the Sammy 4 g touch and omg. I'm regretting it.
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I'd be interested to know why you're regretting it.

He's just trolling most likely.
I think I'm going to go for it. There just aren't any other comparable HTC devices. The 3VO has given me nothing but trouble. It's the first HTC device I have had and didn't like.
The last time I ran CM was on my ADP1 LOL
So, from what I'm reading, CW recovery is pretty much the go to recovery for this device.
I was crushed when I couldn't use Amon Ra moving to the 3vo.
I've never used CW before. Is it pretty stable? And what is "LOS"

I seriously don't think you'll regret it.
I am actually running rooted stock, and it's a bad ass mofo, no (or very little) tweaking needed.
No low mem issues, ever. And GPS is great.
And the screen... oh the lovely screen. ~swoon~
edit: that being said, I am fully prepared to snag something new in a year or so, when something GOOD hits Sprint for LTE.
And if it's an HTC, so be it. But it better have a kickass screen. I'm spoiled now.
CW works great on these, for some reason, none of the issues that HTC devices seemed to have.
"LOS" was "loss of service" (google it re: this phone), but since the last few kerns/modems, Not an issue anymore.

Definitely switch. I used to have the HTC Hero for around 2 years before I switched to the E4GT 2 weeks ago. I don't regret it one bit . This phone shows me the true power of Android - I have no idea of what I could do on my phone before I got it. But for me, HTC Sense got a little old after awhile.

Hi
I just switched from an Evo 4g yesterday, I had rooted for the past year and was running decks ICS which was the best my Evo ever ran.
Now I have this SE4G and there is no comparison... Screen is awesome, performance is crazy snappy, just make the switch, you won't be sorry!
I am running rooted stock until I can read up on the roms and learn more about them.
This phone is a rocket! Can't wait to see ICS on it.
Einsteins
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My opinion Nexus vs One X

My Wife and I have had the Verizon Galaxy Nexus since Winter, I am a big Nexus, fan, having owned all three Nexus phones. But also had a few HTC phones too, over the years. Next to stock vanilla Android UI, I think Sense is the second best, but since JB, I am thinking stock Android is really the only UI to have now.
Anyways, getting sick of Verizon's prices, we want to move to the GSM Unlocked Nexus or "international" One X, my two Brothers have the Nexus from the Play Store running on Straight Talk for $45/month, and they LOVE it, zero issues whatsoever, and that would be well over 150% cheaper than what we pay on Verizon. Plus CDMA radios suck battery faster than GSM in my opinion. Standby time on GSM is better.
Long story short I found a mint condition "International" One X in white, on sale for $325. I picked the one up 10 days ago. Here is my opinion of it running Sense and CM10 based ROM's and comparing it to the Galaxy LTE Nexus.
First off, the white One X is an absolutely beautiful device, very cool looking phone, and high quality, the best looking Android phone ever sold, hands down no question. Makes the Nexus look cheap and poorly designed.
The Good;
- Screen is amazing, super clear and very sharp. Reading text and news websites is so clear and easy on the eyes. At first I thought it looked washed out and dull compared to Super AMOLED from Samsung, but after a few days, I started thinking the Samsung screen sucked now, it looked cartoony in colors, and whites blow on the Nexus, where as the One X, it looks so real and true in color, and super crisp sharp. The One X is the best screen on a smartphone today, better than the iPhone5 screen my Sister owns.
- Design of the phone, just a work of art.
- Size and weight, it is very thin, and lightweight.
- Battery life on Sense ROM's is amazing, 5 hours on screen time, easily 1 day + of heavy use, this Tegra 3 is a beast with a good Sense ROM and the right kernel. Crazy good battery life with the right setup of custom ROM and battery kernel.
- When CM10 ROM's are working well, they are beautiful on the One X, and run super smooth as "butter", and crazy fast, with zero lag whatsoever. CM10 makes the One X feel like a next generation Nexus-Four ( CM10 battery life is mentioned below, in the BAD file )
The Bad;
- No S-Off yet, and doubtful if ever. This is a major bad point to me. Installing ROM's and kernels is a pain in the **** on this phone, frustrating and stupid. Always have to have the phone plugged into the PC, and go into boot loader and flash the boot.img through Command prompt on your PC, then boot into Recovery and do the flashing, but only the ROM, then the kernel must also go through that long process too, after a full reboot. And updating ROM's still need to do it. Basically you can't just flash in recovery and be done, now way, it is a long drawn out process of bull****. And if you don;t have the correct boot.img flashed in Command Prompt, good luck.
- Sense sucks. I know Sense based ROM's have insane good battery life, but there is no JellyBean Sense yet officially, so they still 4.0.4 based, and Sense just looks outdated and like from Gingerbread still. I tried 4 different Sense ROM's all with custom options to make it look like AOSP, and LOL they don't look like AOSP, still has the Sense crap in menus and running behind the scenes. Ever since Google released Android 4.0 ICS, in my opinion, there is no more need need for Sense or Touchwizz, stock vanilla Android is just the best now.
- Custom AOSP ROM's = HOLY SH!T bad battery life. There are some cool CM10 ROM's for the "international" One X, but everyone one of them has bugs here and there, or stuff not working 100% yet. And battery life is a ****ing joke, easily 60% less, compared to Sense based ROM's. I tried 4 different CM10 ROM's with three of the top kernels, and battery just blew chunks. But CM10 does run lightning fast on the One X.
To wrap this up, My Wife and I still need to get one more "Unlocked" phone to use on Straight Talk, and I was all set originally on getting 2 International One X's, but now after 10 days with the HoX, I am for sure going back to a Nexus, and will buy a GSM Nexus off the Play Store. Stock vanilla Android running a Nexus device is the best.
I would definitely stick with the One X easily if they did two things; allowed S-Off for true Recovery flashing. And CM10 ROM's mature and get stable with good battery life. I do think those two might happen, at least CM10 should be much better after a few more weeks or a month, they just started the official Nightly's on the One X last week, so it needs more development time. And S-Off might happen once with One + phone is released with Jellybean, but that's a big maybe.
For now, I will stick with Nexus phone, like I have the last three years.

Why exactly did you bother posting this?
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Why exactly did you bother posting this?
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Just giving my opinion only.
If CM10 on the One X was stable and had good battery life, like it does on my Nexus, then for sure I much prefer stock Jellybean on the One X, it is a nicer phone, and is very fast and smooth.
But CM10 on the One X, is a ways off from being solid with battery life, I am sure needs a good month of development time still, and we shall see from there...but the developers working on CM10 ROM's for the HoX are very smart and good guys, they will figure it out sooner than later I am sure, and it will be just as good as Sense based ROM's hopefully.
Now if the Nexus 5 rumors are true, which says it will be a HTC One X+ type of phone, I would welcome that BIG TIME, it is a very nice phone, just needs stock vanilla Android made specifically for it, and S-Off.
For me a tech nerd, it seems stock Android is best, no need for Sense or Touchwiz anymore, they get in the way, and are bloated, and look outdated actually still. Both Sense 4 and Touchwiz 5 look like Gingerbread skins. I think Google really upped their game with ICS 4.0 and more so with JB 4.1. And with Android 4.2 coming in the new Nexus this November / December, why even bother with other UI's ?

I agree with you. AOSP/CM/AOKP/PNA doesn't matter which one I use. Battery really sucks. I lose %1 per minute and almost same on every kernel. When I was using Galaxy S (I9000) cm based roms battery was much better than touchwiz baseds. I don't understand why cm roms really suck at battery.

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Cause he loves trolling... Nobody cares comparing ex phones and making post. At least u comment in a thread ur experience... But well.... Htc should be doing his work pretty well.
Everybody knows that sammy pays people to do this, then u have sammyboys
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no I loved reading this
your comments about the screen, battery life on sense, design and cm10 being nexus four are spot on
its his choice if he didn't like sense though
I'm on the opposite camp, I tried stock JB on my nexus 7 and felt aosp overhyped n not nearly as useful as sense, in terms of design I found it very dark and too empty, my n7 is now up for sale
I also have no problem with the official unlock method since I'm no fan of flashing all the time
but very fair and well reasoned review
respect

hamdir said:
no I loved reading this
your comments about the screen, battery life on sense, design and cm10 being nexus four are spot on
its his choice if he didn't like sense though
I'm on the opposite camp, I tried stock JB on my nexus 7 and felt aosp overhyped n not nearly as useful as sense, in terms of design I found it very dark and too empty, my n7 is now up for sale
I also have no problem with the official unlock method since I'm no fan of flashing all the time
but very fair and well reasoned review
respect
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Dont forget that he s using an sg3
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What's som bad about this?
Edit: yes stock brightness

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Cause he loves trolling... Nobody cares comparing ex phones and making post. At least u comment in a thread ur experience... But well.... Htc should be doing his work pretty well.
Everybody knows that sammy pays people to do this, then u have sammyboys
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I am not rolling, just giving my honest opinion of the two phones. I am no Samsung fanboy by any means, I prefer a HTC Nexus phone. But if you want to run stock Jellybean 4.1.1 or CM10, and have stability with great battery life, the Galaxy Nexus is that phone. I wish the One X ran it as smooth and good, but right now it does not. Maybe some day in the near future the One X will, but right now by nexus does it better, with zero issues, and good battery life
I am hoping the new Nexus phone due out soon, will be an HTC device and not Samsung

Sckank that is great. Which ROM + kernel ?

I don't really get the urge to have latest offering from google. I guess its fun for some people to really play with it, for me, its just a phone and I just use it.
JB or not is not a problem for me, function wise, I found touchwiz UI most convenient, with all the handy controls in the pull down menu. Google's UI is simple, and doesn't do much. It also has no built-in flash.
I do like SuperAMOLED screen, I have a galaxy tab 7.7, the color contrast is amazing, but pentile really sucks.

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Sckank that is great. Which ROM + kernel ?
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IceColdJelly and the stock kernel that goes with it. :thumbup:
Edit : my mistake thats AOKP

To be honest, pure ics is ugly to me. I love to flash roms and now i m trying to make my own rom. People talk about fast and smooth UI, well i got that using Launcher go in my atrix, and also with the froyomod in my motorola milestone 1. But i would like to see something like sense in google devices or samy phones, with sony games. I love phones that r not similar to others, nexus and sg3 r sinónimo of boring phone.
With hox i have no worry about extra apps like launchers, music apps, widget of the weather.
Thats why people like u keep coming to hox forum. And every time u mention sg3..u start saying.. "my wife, my sister, my little brother". Just think about it.
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well I like that he said the screen is better than i5
I'm looking forward to compare them myself
anyway this is still a comparison thread, it breaks the rules expect closure soon

Playing with both phones tonight, and my God the One X screen is jaw dropping good, way better than the Nexus.
I just really hope CM10 ROM's for the One X can get as stable as a stock Nexus.
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Close it down please
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Zorachus said:
Playing with both phones tonight, and my God the One X screen is jaw dropping good, way better than the Nexus.
I just really hope CM10 ROM's for the One X can get as stable as a stock Nexus.
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i really think you should give Sense a chance
Look if it was a tablet i would say "why sense!" but this is first and formost a smartphone and HTC knows their ****, they've been doing smartphones before everyone else
Sense makes you smartphone life much better and easier, the social intergation is amazing, all the free widgets and apps like HTC gallery are first of their class, calling and contact functions, text predictions and selection tools are all excellent and much better than AOSP
as for the UI design you can change skins, download and even buy some from virtuous on the play store, it looks fresh, bright and no longer as old fashioned as Sense 3.x and by the way HTC is dumping their green for cyan in the upcoming JB update which helps it feel like android even more
Pure andorid is so simple and empty, it almost feels like google is just being lazy
as for CM10 i have long concluded its a software port, it will always be just that, its made by community effort, you can never expect to be as reliable as the software provided by the OEM, CM on a Nexus device makes sense since they have the kernel source and OS already AOSP to begin with. A very prime example is the Image sense chipset which gives the One X camera its abilities like the burst speed, HDR etc it's source is closed for now.
all im saying you obviously like the phone, it's screen, CPU, GPU, IO speed, camera, build and design are all so much ahead of the GNEX, try to let go of the "AOSP" myth and you might find a lot to like in the UI or at the least enjoy a change

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So you posted this comparison thread... just to say goodbye? I see no rational reason to create threads that say "I'm gonna use a different phone. Nyah nyah".

Probably you couldn't find the correct device section, let me help you, you poor thing, >> HERE it's. :cyclops:
Tip; save it as a bookmark so you can find it again next time, bye bye.
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The name 'Sammyboys' isn't correct, it's 'Samsheeps' and you can't blame them they bother us in the wrong forum section,
they always look where the grass is greener.
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it really makes me laugh that everytime a thread like this gets open we always have the same answers to the OP by nearly the same people.....you lot say not again and why do we have another thread like this open "blah blah" and you lot just troll the OP as well...just do the right thing and do not reply and just report this thread to be closed down asap....that is all you lot got to do...no need to troll or respond just either let this thread die down or just report it with urgency to be closed..Simples