Dhd latest firmware question. - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
From what I've read and partialy understand you can't root the stock Rom.
Now I thought ous it possible to some how downgrade it to a rootable firmware then flash custom rom..... But please bare in mind I'm new to all things Android. Lol
Thanks for your time.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003

Shy shizzle I have 2.37 ...
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How long till a way is found do you think guys ? Fed up with bloatware and want to of lol only other way is call orange and claim its not holding charge ...
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Looking for the downgrade package to root my dhd from software # 2.43.661.1
Anyhelp please.

patience please, xda dev are working on it

DesireHD_90 said:
How long till a way is found do you think guys ? Fed up with bloatware and want to of lol only other way is call orange and claim its not holding charge ...
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The devs need to do two things : 1. to find a way to get the root privilege so 2. to turn off write-protection of the internal sd so flashing the CWM recovery image and custom roms is possible.
There used to be one or some kernel vulnerabilities to achieve these. They found some methods to get a root privilege and also forced the Linux kernel to load a kernel module to turn off write protection. Now these wouldn't work any more as the stock update fixed these security issues.
The scenario for iOS is the same too. IPad2 jailbreaking is nowhere to see either. It is a different issue, but the morale behind these is if the vendors don't support JB in iOS or rooting in Android , the future of JB or Rooting may be gloomy.
Though HTC announced its hboot unlocking, I still doubt if write-protection can be turned off. My next Android phone could be Nexus series, 'cos Google Phone was/is/will be always open, if Google doesn't change the policy.
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Don't update to new OTA if you want root

There is a rumoured new update coming out. Of you are rooted or want root please hold off as you might lose your root ability. Just a warning of friendly advice.
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Edit: Dang its late. Sorry I can't spell. Glad that's not what the army paid me for. Lol
Yeah. I just got the phone today for my wife and it updated while it was charging before I could root it...which sucks since rooting it played a HUGE role in the decision to get this phone.
I'm guessing I could really break something if I just tried the unrevoked/alpharev/revolutionary approach regardless of the fact that I now have hboot 0.98 huh?
chrisanthropic said:
Yeah. I just got the phone today for my wife and it updated while it was charging before I could root it...which sucks since rooting it played a HUGE role in the decision to get this phone.
I'm guessing I could really break something if I just tried the unrevoked/alpharev/revolutionary approach regardless of the fact that I now have hboot 0.98 huh?
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I don't recommend it lol. Esp if its a different hboot
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Can you fix the "knew" in the title to "new." It really hurts my brain.
knipp21 said:
I don't recommend it lol. Esp if its a different hboot
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****, I was afraid of that. Now I wonder if I should try to return it and try again...damnit.
Is the update going to try and force itself or will it does it have to be a manual update?
Also, if you are running a custom rom will this still effect people, or just people running stock root?
Unless things are different from my Original Droid then custom roms don't need to worry about it since most of them have OTA updates turned off.
trystan.snyder said:
Can you fix the "knew" in the title to "new." It really hurts my brain.
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Sorry..was doing it by phone so it took a while. Thank you for your thoughtful post though.
kubes069 said:
Is the update going to try and force itself or will it does it have to be a manual update?
Also, if you are running a custom rom will this still effect people, or just people running stock root?
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If it is a stock based Rom without OTA removed...then yes it prob will...and you will lose root...you can remove the update service yourself with a root explorer app
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You will want to switch to a custom for sure. Was about to go to sleep for the night. I am still running my own stock debloat. I caught the ota pop up with the countdown clock. Luckily I was able to pull battery and flash bliss real fast.
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zax10 said:
You will want to switch to a custom for sure. Was about to go to sleep for the night. I am still running my own stock debloat. I caught the ota pop up with the countdown clock. Luckily I was able to pull battery and flash bliss real fast.
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Yep that's what I thought lol luckily I'm running miui. I hope I got this out on time to save some ppl...what happened to Verizon asking if you wanted to update first...
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I'm new to the Inc2, can I turn S-off somehow and then downgrade to the original hboot? Is that possible? Or is the Revolutionary method the only way to turn S-off?
chrisanthropic said:
I'm new to the Inc2, can I turn S-off somehow and then downgrade to the original hboot? Is that possible? Or is the Revolutionary method the only way to turn S-off?
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Unless you have an overpriced xtc clip..you're screwed for now.
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trystan.snyder said:
Can you fix the "knew" in the title to "new." It really hurts my brain.
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Glad two of your 7 posts have been to correct me btw. Way to add to the community
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If you take the ota to 2.3.4 kiss rooting goodbye.
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For some reason the curious side of me wants to down load. Can't be that big oh a change. Right???
How long for the exploit on 2.3.4 since we already have 2.3.2 done.
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My crystal ball says it will take 3 months and 9 days to find the next exploit, and 4 months 15 days for the next patch that kills it.
It seems that one of the biggest benefits of custom roms are freedom of forced updates. I guess this is the answer to all the people concerned about getting s-on for the event of a return.
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Wow, this thing pushes through without user consent? Holy crap am I glad I'm running CM7.
Just a thought - would users who have received the update against their will have the option of flashing the previously released gingerbread RUU? I'm guessing that even if they could, they'd still be stuck with the updated hboot and therefore unable to get s-off. I'm not really sure how all that works though. Anybody smarter than me have any thoughts?
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The new OTA is pushed to your phone but it offers the option to accept, postpone or reject.
I am rooted (stock rom) and made the error of accepting. After the update my phone would not boot completely (erred with white triangle, yellow exclamation point, blue android). You can follow Conduitz's fix found in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233267
NOOB Question
If I want the update and could wait for Root (have root now), how does one go about getting S-ON again? I used the alpharev method.
thanks in advance.

[Q] Root Clarification

I have rooted a ton of devices from tablets to phones and I don't specifically recall ever needing to flash an entirely different kernel to do so.
My question is, is a new kernel an understood for root access? I was under the impression root was, well...access, to system files and the like.
I'm actually pretty sure devices have been rooted PRE kernel source being released, and that source is more conducive to custom ROMs than anything else.
If someone who knows could clarify, I would be grateful and I also think it may begin to explain why some folks are *LOSING* functionality with root.
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The kernel is the heart of the OS. when the kernel is rooted, so is everything else
People are losing functions because the source code from Samsung is jacked up, and the devs are trying to pull it together
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Same thing I thought when I first bought my samsung vibrant... They whereusing the international galaxy s kernels untill samsung released sourcs to the current/up to date one... Samsung is know for latd updates and failed source codes
Well thats my opinion but they do make great hardware and tvs lol
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nate420 said:
Same thing I thought when I first bought my samsung vibrant... They whereusing the international galaxy s kernels untill samsung released sourcs to the current/up to date one... Samsung is know for latd updates and failed source codes
Well thats my opinion but they do make great hardware and tvs lol
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You aren't kidding about the TVs. I was at Sears and they had a Sammy glasses free 3D set up like 64" or something, Avatar was playing...literally jaw dropping.
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abowlby said:
You aren't kidding about the TVs. I was at Sears and they had a Sammy glasses free 3D set up like 64" or something, Avatar was playing...literally jaw dropping.
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Yeah I got a 52" there so nice
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Another way to achieve root without replacing the kernel is with an exploit that takes advantage of a bug i.e. in the bluetooth stack to temporarily gain elevated (SU) privileges and use it to install permanent root, flash a new recovery, etc. That's probably the kind of root method that you are more familiar with.
diesel556 said:
Another way to achieve root without replacing the kernel is with an exploit that takes advantage of a bug i.e. in the bluetooth stack to temporarily gain elevated (SU) privileges and use it to install permanent root, flash a new recovery, etc. That's probably the kind of root method that you are more familiar with.
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Ahh, that makes sense. See, a few devices I've rooted have been pretty straight forward. But the the OG rooting process on the Nook Color was odd as hell, and then the choice of booting SD or eMMC was another consideration to take. The process of rooting Tablets seems to be somewhat similar to this one floating around for the ET right now.

Will this phone every get a more conventional root?

Coming from HTC/Motorola phones primarily the development for this phone has confused me a bit. Those phones used to get a normal root method pretty soon after release without having to worry about messing around the kernal.
Is there going to be a day where you can just root it and leave the kernal alone or is the kernal/root thing exclusive to Samsung phones?
Whsn i was on att i would use superoneclick. I too was wondering this.
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We need this.
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The root for this phone is as easy as it gets. I just rooted my friends inspire and while it is only one click the process it goes through us way more complex.
Samsung Galaxy S II
stangdriverdoug said:
The root for this phone is as easy as it gets. I just rooted my friends inspire and while it is only one click the process it goes through us way more complex.
Samsung Galaxy S II
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Yeah I have to say this was a very easy process to root coming from an evo4g
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I think he meant the fact that ur using the kernel to get to root instaed the more conventional root method we are used to seeing on devices like htc and so on. It is pretty strange the fact u flash a kernel and then flash to get root its typically gain root then flash somethingy. Or at least thats what my noob ass is used to lol
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stangdriverdoug said:
The root for this phone is as easy as it gets. I just rooted my friends inspire and while it is only one click the process it goes through us way more complex.
Samsung Galaxy S II
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All the root methods are simple to execute for someone who can read. But I am referring to the fact (as edison said) that you have to flash a new kernal to achieve root. I'm personally waiting for a more typical root method before I root.
Not that I don't appreciate/love the dev community but I like a COMPLETE stock setup with root before I go messing around experimenting because I don't necessarily trust EVERY dev and don't have the technical expertise to fix stuff myself.
Only solution is to just wait, I don't think many would be working on another root method because this one isn't complex, is noob friendly and works 100% I don't see any pressing reason for another method
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Yup I hear ya. You can always root then odin bubbys pulled stock kernel for a complete stock root. It's not one click but it's close. Only draw back it there is no recovery.
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Conventional root?
What is that?
Umm...there is no other way? There's no exploit anymore guys...it's either flash a rooted kernel or flash a rooted /system. And that's easy as hell
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Unless you can get hold of Samsung's signing keys for creating a signed update.zip or find a new exploit (which would have to be fixed eventually because exploits are essentially security holes) you are pretty much stuck with the current methods.
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squshy 7 said:
Umm...there is no other way? There's no exploit anymore guys...it's either flash a rooted kernel or flash a rooted /system. And that's easy as hell
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Wow,so no more one click roost with cwm then we can flash any kernel and be good? Shizznit, one click was good stuff
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I miss z4root. Im not a newber but I know I like my simplicity redundantly simple.
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Honestly odin is pretty the one click we need.
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Dude samsung released the source and practically handed us root on a silver platter
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gpgorbosjr said:
All the root methods are simple to execute for someone who can read. But I am referring to the fact (as edison said) that you have to flash a new kernal to achieve root. I'm personally waiting for a more typical root method before I root.
Not that I don't appreciate/love the dev community but I like a COMPLETE stock setup with root before I go messing around experimenting because I don't necessarily trust EVERY dev and don't have the technical expertise to fix stuff myself.
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Why should anyone find a exploit to root the phone when the bootloader
Is open and allows you to root much easier....google keeps closing holes in software making it harder and harder to root ...its not a htc where they s-off the phone .....this will probably be the only way to root because there is no reason to find another
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What could be easier than putting this in Odin http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282415 and hitting the start button
I think the point people are trying to make here is that they wish there was a way to have root and recovery and remain bone stock. So far there is no way to do this. Alot of people don't want to flash a custom kernel at this point because of all the problems people are reporting. Myself included. I am still stock and won't root until devs get this stuff sorted. Maybe koush will figure it out...
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It's not really clear from the titles in the development section, but there is a way to root without flashing a kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282418
That's a stock system image, simply modified to include root. No kernel at all.

Do I take the update?

I have an update available on my new tablet I got yesterday day. Where do I find update info about it? Will I lose the ability to root if I take it?
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I myself am new to the a100 community, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Now, from my current knowledge, if the update is for version 3.2.1, you will lose ability to root. With that said, if u want root, you should probably stay with ur current version.
Also, I believe some users have said they've been able to root the newer version (3.2.1) by the same 3.2 root method. They did encounter some problems but got around them easily somehow. But since I dnt know much on this, again, I advise against updating, unless you can confirm with someone whose successfully rooted the update and can get some clear instructions on how to root the newer version.
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i have 3.2.1 and have rooted with su and others.
I myself have also updated to 3.2.1 and rerooted with no issues at all. The update is vital if you use headphones and hate how the screen autorotates when installing apks.
You can still easily achieve root with the new update, but we're still somewhat limited on what we can do with it because there has yet to be a custom recovery, or custom roms.
If you so choose to root, and find an Acer recovery tool on the market, don't use it because it won't work for the A100 and will definitely mess your tablet up.
After rooting, check out the "themes and apps" section to see what deb's have come up with for rooted tabs.
And remember, READ EVERYTHING BEFORE TAKING THE FIRST STEP!!!!!
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I wish I had an update. I check it daily and as of today....nothing.
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killerapl said:
I wish I had an update. I check it daily and as of today....nothing.
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same here.
no update for me too.
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would have any problem to receive an upgrade if app eliminated several of the system?
regards
Same here no update. What gives?
No update, reporting in.
no update here either,anyone know how or by what criteria or location acer distribute it?
maybe going from 3.2 to 3.21 is only minor ,,but it does raise question of when ICS is released,will some have wait months longer than others?
freqchris said:
no update here either,anyone know how or by what criteria or location acer distribute it?
maybe going from 3.2 to 3.21 is only minor ,,but it does raise question of when ICS is released,will some have wait months longer than others?
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From my experience with the A500 you can wait a day to month. I'm not sure how they roll out updates but its dumb.
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Acer_A100_2.001.01_COM_GEN2 (android 3.2.1)
Acer_A100_2.001.01_COM_GEN2 (android 3.2.1)
http://narod.ru/disk/30583572001/ACER.zip.html
http://www.multiupload.com/YRSV5O89EC
how would you install the zip update?
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jahciple said:
how would you install the zip update?
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Here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19861489&postcount=36
Maybe they found some problems with the update and decided not to open it up to all regions.
if theres no real difference with this update, i think i will skip it for now.
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Once I enabled the "Update" feature, it was immediately avail to download.
Settings > About Tablet > System Update > ...and check for updates.
mmm I still dont get the update,,maybe they don't like Canadians?
Would help if I told them Im not Canadian,,but English just living in Canada??
But seriously it occurred to me that they maybe put a hold on the update,,,as ice cream sandwich is supposedly coming for A100 in January,but if some are still getting the 3.21 update obviously not

Afraid to root! would love some reassurance

OK so a bit of history...
I just sent back a galaxy note 2 n7100 to amazon (removed all trace of root)
Sent it back as I installed root and custom rom - managed to lose imei etc (didn't backup)
Even after the noble efforts of some kind forum members I could not save the phone
They have sent me a new note n7100.
I want to root it and back it up only. I can live with stock samsung rom
I don't even need cwm installed as the root is for a few certain apps and a cheeky overclock.
Is it safe enough to just root? Will I be able to unroot and update my stock rom?
Thanks
Dan
There are stickies everywhere with information on rooting. Only you will know when you are comfortable enough to root your phone. If you are not comfortable doing it, , don't. Read and study more until you are not longer afraid.
NightHawkUndead said:
There are stickies everywhere with information on rooting. Only you will know when you are comfortable enough to root your phone. If you are not comfortable doing it, , don't. Read and study more until you are not longer afraid.
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Yeah I have read stickies and such.
I was comfortable with rooting my galaxy s3 as I had no problems with it.
I just don't want to ruin my new note 2
spanielgita said:
Yeah I have read stickies and such.
I was comfortable with rooting my galaxy s3 as I had no problems with it.
I just don't want to ruin my new note 2
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I just picked up the Note 2 yesterday and looking to do the same . I came from the vibrant which had no flash counter or normal rom check . From what I've read cf root is most likely what I'm going to use but I'm not very familiar with this flash counter stuff . I'm on the jump plan and plan on upgrading in 6 months and I don't want my upgrade to be rejected due to flash counter and so on . An help is much appreciated .
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I kinda think you have to root for firewalls, avast anti theft, no ads, also directory bind and increased sound Volume.
The root is pretty simple and there are enough guides to get your counter reset and indeed lose the modified tag. It worked for me.
Dr ketan has a few real good guides. Don't be scared. I've rooted four of these and now I've a custom rom too.
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Is tmobile note 2 n7100 or n7105 how do I determine this . Thanks
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Settings, about device. It'll show model number in there
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Thats the first place I looked sgh-t889 so where is everyone getting n7100 and n7105 from .......... Lmao I think I'm in the wrong thread . Just saw the tmobile galaxy note 2 thread .
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Rooting is a piece of cake. It's finding a custom Rom that suites you which is the real problem. It's like a jungle out there for us noobs.
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If the gains you perceive from rooting (custom ROMs, Tasker/Titanium, nandroids, etc) outweigh your risk-aversion to possibly losing your warranty or damaging your phone, then don't do it.
Having said that, if you follow all the instructions carefully and understand the process, you should have no issues. I've rooted the last half dozen phones/tablets and it's been smooth sailing.
After losing my IMEI it took me almost 3 weeks to find a solution to my uprooted device, now that I regained the IMEI back I rooted it for the first time, installed the triangle away and returned the status to normal the counter was already 0. I've also noticed that the OTA update is functioning properly.
Found the correct thread and files and I've successfully rooted and have the unlimited multi window mod .
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How come no one knows about Framaroot?
I use it to root; then freeze and uninstall apps with titanium and then fully unroot
Lol. @ agentfour20 Yeah I did see your phone show up as that on your posts but wasn't sure. Glad you got it sorted now.
Edit - ismo29 I know what you mean but I think this phone doesn't need a custom rom as much as most
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lu1gj3s said:
How come no one knows about Framaroot?
I use it to root; then freeze and uninstall apps with titanium and then fully unroot
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Framaroot is OK for a last call. But the issue is that it still can open doors that normal rooting doesnt.
I use the prerooted stock with odin
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lu1gj3s said:
How come no one knows about Framaroot?
I use it to root; then freeze and uninstall apps with titanium and then fully unroot
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jetbruceli said:
Framaroot is OK for a last call. But the issue is that it still can open doors that normal rooting doesnt.
I use the prerooted stock with odin
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Samsung have also patched the vulnerability in newer firmwares.
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spanielgita said:
OK so a bit of history...
I just sent back a galaxy note 2 n7100 to amazon (removed all trace of root)
Sent it back as I installed root and custom rom - managed to lose imei etc (didn't backup)
Even after the noble efforts of some kind forum members I could not save the phone
They have sent me a new note n7100.
I want to root it and back it up only. I can live with stock samsung rom
I don't even need cwm installed as the root is for a few certain apps and a cheeky overclock.
Is it safe enough to just root? Will I be able to unroot and update my stock rom?
Thanks
Dan
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Mate its perfectly safe to just root and install recovery so you can do your nandroids and EFS BACKUP THIS TIME LOL
sent from my R800i Xperia play with xda premium.. that is all..
If you r not going to root then u will never get the the real test of android.... Using stuck boring ROM everyday...bad idea...
Just root and enjoy the your android...

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