I have a Evo 4G with CM 7.1 I have used the built in app, but it will not work for my needs. I have looked and used android wifi tether for root users, but I don't think this will work either.
My set up would include a desktop (wired to router), laptop, wireless router, and phone.
What I would like to do is use my phone as a backup connection if my home internet goes down (which happens enough). But since all of my devices are not wireless I have an issue of connecting to the internet though the phone. So I am looking for an app that would allow me to share my phones internet though wifi, but instead of the phone becoming an AP. I would like it to connect to my wireless router. From there I would set up my default gateway to be my phones IP address which would route the packets to my phone. This way all of my pc's and internet enabled devices could have a data connection when my home internet is on the fritz. Now I know alot will say the phone will not have the bandwidth to support that many devices, but I will disagree becuase in my testing I have got 1.7down .7up consistent on my phone which beats my awful home internet at 1.5down and .5up.
Bam > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046764&highlight=fix
I don't see how this will work for me... I want to turn on tethering and connect my phone to a wireless router and then connect my computers to the wireless router also. The router would hand out ip and would set the default gateway to the ip of the phone.
Could you use an app that allows you to tether using USB and connect a usb from the phone to the router?
I was using the barnacle app to wireless tether when I had cm7, but not using a USB.
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I've heard some people say that when they're rooted, their wireless tether, another Android device such as a tablet or phone can't pick it up do to it being an adhoc network.
Question is, what's an adhoc network?
And how come MY wireless tether can be picked up by my Android tablet. But someone elses wireless tether doesn't work on their Android tablet?
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I've heard some people say that when they're rooted, their wireless tether, another Android device such as a tablet or phone can't pick it up do to it being an adhoc network.
Question is, what's an adhoc network?
And how come MY wireless tether can be picked up by my Android tablet. But someone elses wireless tether doesn't work on their Android tablet?
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On wireless computer networks, ad-hoc mode is a method for wireless devices to directly communicate with each other. Operating in ad-hoc mode allows all wireless devices within range of each other to discover and communicate in peer-to-peer fashion without involving central access points (including those built in to broadband wireless routers).
To set up an ad-hoc wireless network, each wireless adapter must be configured for ad-hoc mode versus the alternative infrastructure mode. In addition, all wireless adapters on the ad-hoc network must use the same SSID and the same channel number.
An ad-hoc network tends to feature a small group of devices all in very close proximity to each other. Performance suffers as the number of devices grows, and a large ad-hoc network quickly becomes difficult to manage. Ad-hoc networks cannot bridge to wired LANs or to the Internet without installing a special-purpose gateway.
Ad hoc networks make sense when needing to build a small, all-wireless LAN quickly and spend the minimum amount of money on equipment. Ad hoc networks also work well as a temporary fallback mechanism if normally-available infrastructure mode gear (access points or routers) stop functioning.
Infrastructure mode wireless networking bridges (joins) a wireless network to a wired Ethernet network. Infrastructure mode wireless also supports central connection points for WLAN clients.
A wireless access point (AP) is required for infrastructure mode wireless networking. To join the WLAN, the AP and all wireless clients must be configured to use the same SSID. The AP is then cabled to the wired network to allow wireless clients access to, for example, Internet connections or printers. Additional APs can be added to the WLAN to increase the reach of the infrastructure and support any number of wireless clients.
Compared to the alternative, ad-hoc wireless networks, infrastructure mode networks offer the advantage of scalability, centralized security management and improved reach. The disadvantage of infrastructure wireless networks is simply the additional cost to purchase AP hardware.
Note that home wireless routers all feature a built-in AP to support infrastructure mode.
awesome information thanks.
But any ideas for the 2nd question? about connecting android devices to other adhoc networks that work and dont work......
Think of it like this. Hotspot mod (infrastructure) on this phone is like connecting to a router. Wireless tether (ad hoc) is like doing internet connection sharing on a computer. You'll have to find a mod for the device that can't see or connect to ad hoc, to make it work. There are different ways to accomplish the same thing in different devices. With a galaxy tab, it's replacing a file. I'm probably wrong but with the Xoom, you need a modded kernel.
Also, as the saying goes, Google is your friend.
I couldn't connect my wife's laptop to the hotspot on my phone until I lowered the security on the hotspot settings to WPA. Default was WPA2. Something to keep in mind if a device won't connect.
I have a question regarding tethering via wifi on my T989D.
I am using the Juggernaut v5.0 on my Telus T989D. It has wifi-sharing app built in. When I use this application to share my mobile internet with my PC, I get two different ip addresses. For example, use my PC's browser, I find my PC's ip address is 123.123.123.57, however my phone's IP address is 123.123.123.101. So my phone and my pc have different ip addresses.
Strange enough, my Samsung Vibrant (T959 from TMobile), is different. I use wifi tethering for root user app, and I find my PC and my phone (T959) share the same ip address.
Why they are different on my T989D?
The problem I am having right now is, tethering via T989D's built-in function is slow. Sometimes connection drops. However the tethering via my T959 is very reliable and fast.
Is there a way to disable built-in tethering on T989D and use the tethering for root user app on my T989D? I have tried to freeze the tether manager, but tethering for root user still has error in log and I cannot connect to it at all.
Please help, I want to fix my tethering problem with T989D.
thanks
think about it...
when you are WiFi tethering, your phone is acting as the router, and it provides its own IP to you
you don't get the Mobilicity IP on your laptop or whatever it's hooking up to your phone on WiFi
Sorry I don't get it.
Why my T989D and T959 act differently?
Basically there are two ways of tethering your phone to your PC, (to allow the PC to access the internet through your phone's data connection). The first way is connect PC to the phone, and then to configure your PC to see the phone as the network adapter. This is the method used when you configure USB tethering and you connect the PC to the phone with a USB cable. In that case there will only be 1 IP address assigned, because the PC is using the phone as the network adapter. (Imagine the phone is just an ethernet adapter for the PC)
The second way is to connect your phone to your PC and then to configure the PC to access the phone as if it were a Wireless Access Point (WAP). This is the method used when you use Wi-Fi sharing, (called Portable Hotspot). It's called sharing because the phone can share access to its data connection through its Wi-Fi hardware, for up to 8 different PCs simultaneously. In order to do this the phone has to route data requests correctly between the connected computers. It does this by assigning itself 1 IP address, and then assigning each PC that's connected to it, a different IP address. This is similar to setting up a wireless router at home to share a single internet connection between multiple PCs.
Usually USB tethering results in 1 IP address for both phone (network adapter) and PC, and Wi-Fi sharing/tethering results in 1 IP address for the phone and another IP address for each connected PC. However, I suppose it's possible to use different Wi-Fi tethering software that connects the PC to the phone via Wi-Fi, using only 1 IP address for both phone and PC, like the USB tether method. This would mean you couldn't share the connection, but it may work faster, since the phone wouldn't need to do any routing.
If the android-wifi-tether app is what you refer to as "wifi tethering for root user app", it's worth it to see if it works on the T989. (I'd be curious if it works too). However, if you're using Juggernaut 5.0, you should be able to install android-wifi-tether, and it should work. You shouldn't actually have a Tethering manager app in your list of apps, I don't and I'm using 5.0. If you do, and freezing Tethering manager doesn't allow this app to work, then I would try freezing both the Wi-Fi sharing app and the Wi-Fi sharing manager app as well. If it still doesn't work I'd be tempted to reflash the Juggernaut 5.0 ROM, and then install the android-wifi-tether app again, and see if it works.
Good Luck..
Thanks Jasnn, this really helped and I am now clear.
Yes, the application I am referring to was android-wifi-tether. It works flawlessly
on T959D. it is very slow on my T989D with Juggernaut 5.0/Telus modem.
If I reboot the phone and start tethering using android-wifi-tether, the application starts, but there is one error in log:
Setting ad-hoc mode: failed.
IP address are still different. My pc and phone has two different ipaddress.
I'd like to have the same ipaddress, also one thing bugs me is, the internet connection is not stable, the internet goes on and off. Lots of t989/D users have experienced this problem, there is no cure yet.
thanks
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Basically there are two ways of tethering your phone to your PC, (to allow the PC to access the internet through your phone's data connection). The first way is connect PC to the phone, and then to configure your PC to see the phone as the network adapter. This is the method used when you configure USB tethering and you connect the PC to the phone with a USB cable. In that case there will only be 1 IP address assigned, because the PC is using the phone as the network adapter. (Imagine the phone is just an ethernet adapter for the PC)
The second way is to connect your phone to your PC and then to configure the PC to access the phone as if it were a Wireless Access Point (WAP). This is the method used when you use Wi-Fi sharing, (called Portable Hotspot). It's called sharing because the phone can share access to its data connection through its Wi-Fi hardware, for up to 8 different PCs simultaneously. In order to do this the phone has to route data requests correctly between the connected computers. It does this by assigning itself 1 IP address, and then assigning each PC that's connected to it, a different IP address. This is similar to setting up a wireless router at home to share a single internet connection between multiple PCs.
Usually USB tethering results in 1 IP address for both phone (network adapter) and PC, and Wi-Fi sharing/tethering results in 1 IP address for the phone and another IP address for each connected PC. However, I suppose it's possible to use different Wi-Fi tethering software that connects the PC to the phone via Wi-Fi, using only 1 IP address for both phone and PC, like the USB tether method. This would mean you couldn't share the connection, but it may work faster, since the phone wouldn't need to do any routing.
If the android-wifi-tether app is what you refer to as "wifi tethering for root user app", it's worth it to see if it works on the T989. (I'd be curious if it works too). However, if you're using Juggernaut 5.0, you should be able to install android-wifi-tether, and it should work. You shouldn't actually have a Tethering manager app in your list of apps, I don't and I'm using 5.0. If you do, and freezing Tethering manager doesn't allow this app to work, then I would try freezing both the Wi-Fi sharing app and the Wi-Fi sharing manager app as well. If it still doesn't work I'd be tempted to reflash the Juggernaut 5.0 ROM, and then install the android-wifi-tether app again, and see if it works.
Good Luck..
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My dad has a motor home and canceled his Comcast account for where he keeps it (some motor home park)
Because his internet speeds with his phone is amazing to say the least.
He's fine with just tethering but I was wondering if its possible to some how connect his phone to the router ??
The router is more powerful at sending the wifi, plus he has some things hardwired (roku,computer)
It seems like there should be a way, but I have no clue..
THANKS!
just enable WiFi tethering, you don't need a router for that
Yeah use either wifi tether or barnacle (same thing better options and free) then your phone becomes a wireless router which uses your cellular data connection for internet so subject to plan limits and throttling.
Connect multiple devices like you would your usual router. Any device that can use wifi should pretty much work this way just follow app directions too it's easy just usually have to ok each device on phone before it can access the internet
Note: eats battery for breakfast so keep charger and some power source handy if needed for long sessions
Keep number of clients as low as you can more clients = less time on battery and phones not meant to handle a ton of routing
oh and TMobile is known to firewall certain Ports on their end
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Thanks.. Yea I know about tethering as we both do it all the time..
As I said, in his motor home his router is already set up to many things (Direct TV, Roku,Computer, laptop)
Yes we can just do it through wifi tether, but I thought you would be able to some how hook it right into a router that is WiFi/Ethernet and just leave it at that..
Believe it or not at 45 feet long, with some stuff in the back and some in the front, the signal sometimes isn't as strong
This is advice only I am not responsible for anything you choose to do with any of your own personal equipment!
It ain't easy but it is possible but you would need to create a wifi bridge but unless your router can use dd-wrt or other custom firmware won't work.
Basically you would start wifi tether then use router via DD-wrt to connect as client to phones wifi said and then it would share that with devices connected to the router out again though phone would still bottle neck speed if too many clients go too crazy on data because in the end all data must flow through phone to the internet.
I did it with a cheap linksys wrt54g v8 but I bridge my ISP router out to another room. Also all wired Ports on router would also go back to phone and internet
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My dad has a motor home and canceled his Comcast account for where he keeps it (some motor home park)
Because his internet speeds with his phone is amazing to say the least.
He's fine with just tethering but I was wondering if its possible to some how connect his phone to the router ??
The router is more powerful at sending the wifi, plus he has some things hardwired (roku,computer)
It seems like there should be a way, but I have no clue..
THANKS!
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Something else you can do is wired tether to a computer and set the other computer's gateway to that computer's ip. If this sounds like an option you are curious reply and I'll give full instructions.
Well you could just bridge the phone connection in network connects to I've that connects to router set router gateway to that computers IP (set up ics in windows walks through comp piece after phone tethered and all drivers set). If you use crossover ethernet cable (trees different than straight through normal cable I know I do camping telecom work all day either buy one from just bout anywhere just be sure it says crossover) or make one) from computer with USB or wifi tethered phone to routers WAN port and set router IP manually to something like
Computer:
IP: 192.168.1.1
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: the IP of the bridge created by ics
Router
IP:192.168.1.2
Same subnet
Gateway: 192.168.1.1
That is very basic and off the cuff while on smoke break Google ics and basic use of bridges connections for detailed info
You would have to have that computer run full time without going to sleep for internet access via phone even from rest of network. Otherwise all devices would see either and work between themselves butno internet until gateway was on and awake.
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i want to set up the same thing without using the computer...is it possible I'm running DD-wrt on a wrt54g and barnacle
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i want to set up the same thing without using the computer...is it possible I'm running DD-wrt on a wrt54g and barnacle
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Yes, set phone with barnacle then connect DD-wrt using client bridge under wireless after you either clicked SSID using their pop up or entered it manually drop down box at bottom is client bridge. Don't forget to click security and set the settings accordingly.
Also don't forget to click to allow DD-WRT router on your phone screen when you connect it just like any computer before it will see the internet.
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i realize this is an old thread that i am hoping to revive...
i have an android phone that is rooted.
also have a linksys wrt54gl router
i am trying to do one of several things and i need some help...
i am wanting to use my wifi hotspot on the phone fed through the router to get internet...
i can already tether in windows 10 straight to the phone... my issue is linux mint 18 isnt seeing any wireless connections and it doesnt pick up a usb tether as wired. i dont have dsl or anything like that. only mobile data provides internet..
i am super confused.
router has dd-wrt installed i just am confused on how to get it to work....
each page i read is something different and i havent found the setting that works, and im not terribly knowledgeable about this either.
i installed the dd-wrt because of linux being that it is linux firmware for the router i figured it would communicate way better and not have to do work arounds etc...
my linksys ae1200 needs to much work and its still not seeing that one and i havint figured out ndiswrapper or ndsgtk (might have that incorrect- essentially the gui for ndiswrapper)
im trying to figure it on windows 10 right now and havent tried for linux.. figured its just way better to ask... i could care less about configuring for windows 10.. system is dual boot win10 and linux mint 18.
i want it to work so i can get linux where it can do updates and download from internet the necessary package through synaptic, etc...
trying to do other things with linux for android...
AGAIN there is not wired connection to work from so in general im just having a hard time.
any and all help is appreciated and if im in the wrong thread, please direct me to the correct one.
thank you
Hey I want to create an adhoc connection to allow my S3 to use wifi connection from my laptop?
I tried creating one but the S3 wouldn't find it on WPA and no security.
This is because my S3 has very slow speed and low connection to my routher which is two floors below me. My laptop and iPad and stuff can connect fine but not the S3. I tried the *#0011# trick but to no avail. If I try a factory reset how do I backup everything?
But how can I have my S3 connect to my Laptop for Internet, is this possible?
yea the s3 cannot see the ad hoc network its not in our wifi profile.
Last time i checked, i don't recall typical WiFi chips being able to function as a WiFi access point... could be wrong, though.
There are some apps that claim to enable ad-hoc networks on certain phones. Not sure if they are compatible with our phones our not.
If you're using windows 7, you can try connectify. It'll create a real wifi ap instead of just ad-hoc, also simultaneously allowing the computer to connect to your router's wifi.
Use Connectify
yo can use connectify and make your wirless adapter to an access point then this application could share your internet connection via this virtual access point
Bronos said:
Hey I want to create an adhoc connection to allow my S3 to use wifi connection from my laptop?
I tried creating one but the S3 wouldn't find it on WPA and no security.
This is because my S3 has very slow speed and low connection to my routher which is two floors below me. My laptop and iPad and stuff can connect fine but not the S3. I tried the *#0011# trick but to no avail. If I try a factory reset how do I backup everything?
But how can I have my S3 connect to my Laptop for Internet, is this possible?
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I am also have the same problem like you
This may have been asked before. I am curious if it is possible to connect to an internet connection sharing device (laptop, desktop), and use that particular connection for internet based access on a samsung galaxy S3. I know that you can reverse tether to allow the PC to connect to the phone for internet. That's not what I'm looking for. I have a laptop that I want to be able to connect to from the phone to the WIFI connection, and access the internet via the shared LAN connection that I have on the laptop.
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This may have been asked before. I am curious if it is possible to connect to an internet connection sharing device (laptop, desktop), and use that particular connection for internet based access on a samsung galaxy S3. I know that you can reverse tether to allow the PC to connect to the phone for internet. That's not what I'm looking for. I have a laptop that I want to be able to connect to from the phone to the WIFI connection, and access the internet via the shared LAN connection that I have on the laptop.
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Internet Connection Sharing on your Wifi, set it to Ad-Hoc so it broadcasts a signal. My laptop has Intel MyFi so that part's done automatically (I can be both connected wirelessly and share my connection) but setting it this way should work.
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Internet Connection Sharing on your Wifi, set it to Ad-Hoc so it broadcasts a signal. My laptop has Intel MyFi so that part's done automatically (I can be both connected wirelessly and share my connection) but setting it this way should work.
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Doesn't show up on the phone. Is there something I need to do to allow it to see ad-hoc networks?