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What will I gain from deodexed roms?
What will I loose?
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odex - more free space, faster boot, a little snappier.
deodex - customization (tweaks, themes ,fonts, etc.)
thats pretty much the big picture...
deodexed is preferred because u can just customize the phone in many ways... odex leaves u pretty much stuck at the same place u would be on a stock rom.
i do think this belongs in another thread.
Odexed - Unthemeable and MARGINALLY faster.
DeOdexed - Themeable and more space in system.
I really couldn't tell a difference as far as speed.
So far the biggest difference I can tell is that I had an odexed rom and I just flashed the latest update deodexed and titanium backup couldn't restore 90% of my data... I'm hoping this is an odexed vs deodexed thing and not a corrupt backup that passed verification thing..
To me the biggest advantage of going with an Odexed version is you can download updates from the Marketplace for the included apps when they become available. For example, if Google pushes an update to GMail or Sprint pushes an update to the Voicemail app, and you're on a deodexed ROM, you can't get it directly from the Marketplace....
BlueScreenOfTOM said:
To me the biggest advantage of going with an Odexed version is you can download updates from the Marketplace for the included apps when they become available. For example, if Google pushes an update to GMail or Sprint pushes an update to the Voicemail app, and you're on a deodexed ROM, you can't get it directly from the Marketplace....
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I just downloaded an update for both GMAIL and the VVM sprint app and I'm on a deodexed rom....
JavaIV said:
I just downloaded an update for both GMAIL and the VVM sprint app and I'm on a deodexed rom....
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Same..
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jkinnison90 said:
Same..
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Same here , got the gmail update without upgrading and the voice mail was requested when I barelu boot up my phone and it worked too
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jgalan14 said:
Same here , got the gmail update without upgrading and the voice mail was requested when I barelu boot up my phone and it worked too
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Yea, I get updates all the time for my apps...
As far as downloading/updating apps it doesn't matter if it is deodex our odex; it depends on wether the rom is signed our not as far as I know.
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I see. Apologies for spreading misinformation, apparently all the de-odexed ROMs I used previously we not re-signed then, or something.
BlueScreenOfTOM said:
To me the biggest advantage of going with an Odexed version is you can download updates from the Marketplace for the included apps when they become available. For example, if Google pushes an update to GMail or Sprint pushes an update to the Voicemail app, and you're on a deodexed ROM, you can't get it directly from the Marketplace....
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The issue you are seeing is actually associated to ROM developers signing their apks with test keys.
Upon updating in the market, Android verifies the signing authority and if they don't match what they are in the Market, it fails to update.
DeOdexed or Odexed, If they are signed properly, things will update
myn said:
The issue you are seeing is actually associated to ROM developers signing their apks with test keys.
Upon updating in the market, Android verifies the signing authority and if they don't match what they are in the Market, it fails to update.
DeOdexed or Odexed, If they are signed properly, things will update
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The whole app thing is what has stopped me from going to deodexed. So myn, all ota updates for apps will update perfectly in your new Rom.??
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Absolutely
RTC88 said:
As far as downloading/updating apps it doesn't matter if it is deodex our odex; it depends on wether the rom is signed our not as far as I know.
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Yup. De-odexing has nothing to to with sprint app updates. Depends on the rom.
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Absolutely
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Well I just flashed an odexed version but I will peep yours out then. Thanks.
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I just flashed the new DeOdexed version as well and the big difference I can see is that I lost 35mb of app storage space. This is a bit of a issue for me. As soon as the Odex version is out I am going to reflash.
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So far the biggest difference I can tell is that I had an odexed rom and I just flashed the latest update deodexed and titanium backup couldn't restore 90% of my data... I'm hoping this is an odexed vs deodexed thing and not a corrupt backup that passed verification thing..
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If you used the Deodexed rom that was released yesterday, the version of Busybox was the culprit for me. The rom came with some version 1.71 or something Busybox, and when I'd try to restore my backups, my phone would just reboot. I let Titanium install it's own Busybox (1.60 I believe) and it worked fine.
Everything updates....
just fine from the market. No issues here.
I Just update Galaxy S to Froyo via Reg Hack,but i found the Ocean Waves LiveWallpaper missing, can i install the lovely Ocean Waves LW on froyo ? how?
thanks
Im missing the autum leaves wallpaper any help?
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I do not understand why they delete things that have been good?
Any way to get the live wallpaper from 2.1 back?
True, there appears to be a few missing LWPs...
I believe it should be possible to get them back, as I've seen other threads taking LWPs from captivate (or was it vibrant, cant remember) for our i9000. I cbf trying to figure it out atm though.
Yeah it's very strange that they remove good things in new firmwares 0_0
For the Ocean waves wallpaper google this: ocean-waves-415. You can simply download it in the phone memory and than install.
I tried 2-3 other apk but this is the only one working.
Bye from Italy
PS: sorry if I havent posted a direct link but my new account is restricted and i can't post links now.
Newbie
At least the falling leaves wallpaper can be retrieved
look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775152&page=2
here is the beach LWP. Just install like a reg apk....
the easy way to get livewallpaper with doc 7.6.2
JPA & JPO V7 Base to Medium Package (android developpers)
JPA & JPO V7 Base to Full Package (android developpers)
extract both of them
in fact if you install them they are ignored and nothing is installed, but if you extract and copy the .apk into the /system/app folder they work very well
copy the required apk into system/app
and here you go you have em all, including installation of other livewall papers, like I have purchased Aquarium.
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the easy way to get livewallpaper with doc 7.6.2
JPA & JPO V7 Base to Medium Package (android developpers)
JPA & JPO V7 Base to Full Package (android developpers)
extract both of them
in fact if you install them they are ignored and nothing is installed, but if you extract and copy the .apk into the /system/app folder they work very well
copy the required apk into system/app
and here you go you have em all, including installation of other livewall papers, like I have purchased Aquarium.
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how to do it .....i already download and install the developer program ....can u teach me how to do it
Check a few thread above. There is a an apk for that paper.
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am kinda a new to this. could u plz tell me how to install it?
thanks.
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am kinda a new to this. could u plz tell me how to install it?
thanks.
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yeah me too ...plss someone .....i already read everything but still cannot work for me .....teach us how to do it step by step .....and what program that we need to download
ocean wave apk
the original ocean wave live wallpaper missing from froyo update
enjoy.
To install, just download it to your phone, and browse to the file using a file manager app like "My Files" (This is preinstalled on your phone!) Or "EStrong File Manager". Open the file. Done.
Hahahh now its work for me now....do you have the autmn leaves fall
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Read Page 1 again.
Thanks, but the ocean waves doesn't render over the full size of the screen in landscape mode. Tested with a few different doc ROMs. I feel like a bit of a whiner, but that LWP has actually managed to convert a few iPhone users, looks so cool.
Not surprised. Touchwiz was never meant to have landscape mode.
But for me its ok
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flamin_ICE said:
the original ocean wave live wallpaper missing from froyo update
enjoy.
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Thanks for the download. It works.
I have downloaded other ocean.apk, but i get "Application not installed". strange
After recently upgrading to the new syndicate rom, I tried a few times to odex the rom, via the on click method here at xda. I keep getting stuck on the black samsung screen. I had the drivers installed, and I made sure my media scanner wasn't running. I tested my phone throughout this process and everything was fine until I would odex the rom. Maybe the no carrier iq has something to do with it? This new rom is really fast but I can't help but want to see it odexed.
Same thing happened to me with the new Syndicate ROM.... the developer of the odexer tool has been busy working on the ROM kernel, but says he will put time into updating the tool soon hopefully. Not much we can do right now I don't think, a few others have had the same results as well.
Because of the removal of CIQ alot of the apps signature's where changed and alot of underlying code to those same apps.
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Because of the removal of CIQ alot of the apps signature's where changed and alot of underlying code to those same apps.
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That makes sense, thanks for the explanation.
What themes are compatable with srf 1.2 and genocide on eco5.
I guess I don't understand, in the apps and themes section some of the themes say eco5 meaning I should be able to use them. So for example the asc honeycomb fusion explosion says eco5 but it says I need a rom that is deodexed, I am a noob what does that mean?
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What themes are compatable with srf 1.2 and genocide on eco5.
I guess I don't understand, in the apps and themes section some of the themes say eco5 meaning I should be able to use them. So for example the asc honeycomb fusion explosion says eco5 but it says I need a rom that is deodexed, I am a noob what does that mean?
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I believe any of the EC05 themes will work on SRF 1.2. I have tried almost all of them actually.
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So what does deodexed mean.
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So what does deodexed mean.
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Well, I don't know the exact definition but most of the ROMs are deodexed to allow sustom themes and modifications to be added. I don't believe you can add themes to Odexed ROMs. I may be wrong here but you are definately good to go on SRF 1.2
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All roms are deodexed except the bone stock touchwiz rom. Most, if not all ec05 themes will work with srf 1.2 but never assume. If you want to try then make a clockwork backup before you do anything.
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scottyd035ntknow said:
All roms are deodexed except the bone stock touchwiz rom. Most, if not all ec05 themes will work with srf 1.2 but never assume. If you want to try then make a clockwork backup before you do anything.
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Yeah, only stock ROMs and the leaks are odexed as far as I know. Always have a good nandroid just in case. It can save you a lot of headaches if you get a bad download or data corruption
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Srf 1.2 also requires the lockscreen mod fyi.. but I think all the themes have it by now. Also deodexed means the .odex files are removed. What that means? I hve no clue.
Cd's or tapes?
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Srf 1.2 also requires the lockscreen mod fyi.. but I think all the themes have it by now. Also deodexed means the .odex files are removed. What that means? I hve no clue.
Cd's or tapes?
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Aah..good point Schnowda! I would get the ACS Updater app also. All of the EC05 themes on there will work for sure. Probably good to avoid any theme released before SRF 1.2 just to be safe
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schnowdapowda said:
Srf 1.2 also requires the lockscreen mod fyi.. but I think all the themes have it by now. Also deodexed means the .odex files are removed. What that means? I hve no clue.
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WHAT IS AN ODEX FILE?
In Android file system, applications come in packages with the extension .apk. These application packages, or APKs contain certain .odex files whose supposed function is to save space. These ‘odex’ files are actually collections of parts of an application that are optimized before booting. Doing so speeds up the boot process, as it preloads part of an application. On the other hand, it also makes hacking those applications difficult because a part of the coding has already been extracted to another location before execution.
THEN COMES DEODEX
Deodexing is basically repackaging of these APKs in a certain way, such that they are reassembled into classes.dex files. By doing that, all pieces of an application package are put together back in one place, thus eliminating the worry of a modified APK conflicting with some separate odexed parts.
In summary, Deodexed ROMs (or APKs) have all their application packages put back together in one place, allowing for easy modification such as theming. Since no pieces of code are coming from any external location, custom ROMs or APKs are always deodexed to ensure integrity.
SOURCE: What Is Odex And Deodex In Android [Complete Guide]
***IMPORTANT!!! Make sure you back everything up first, and wipe your cache and dalvik cache after you are done removing stuff!***
I rooted my SGSII Epic 4G Touch (Sprint) using the Odin method from ACS (props to you fellas!), made a complete ClockworkMod backup of the ROM, and then removed the following apps using Titanium Backup, with no problems so far:
Accuweather.com 11.07.16.01 (SamsungWidget_WeatherClock.apk)
AllShare 2.0.0 (Dlna.apk)
Android Live Wallpapers 2.3.4 (LiveWallpapers.apk)
AP Mobile 11.07.18.02 (SamsungWidget_News.apk)
Books 1.4.5 (BooksPhone.apk)
Buddies now 1.0 (BuddiesNow.apk)
Calculator 1.0 (TouchWizCalculator.apk)
ChocoEUKor 1.0 (ChocoEUKor.apk)
Clock 1.0 (AnalogClock.apk)
Digital Clock 1.0 (DigitalClock.apk)
DRM content 2.3.4 (SisoDrmProvider.apk)
DRM content launcher 1.0 (DrmUA.apk)
DRM Protected Content Storage 2.3.4 (DrmProvider.apk)
Dual Clock 1.0 (DualClock.apk)
Email 1.0 (EmailWidget.apk)
Factory Test 1.0 (FactoryTest.apk)
Helv Neue S 1.0 (HelvNeueLT.apk)
Home Screen Tips 1.0 (Protips.apk)
HTML Viewer 2.3.6 (HTMLViewer.apk)
Kies air 1.2.10781 (KiesAir.apk)
Kies via Wi-Fi 1.2.0 (kieswifi.apk)
Let's Try, Panning! 1.0 (PanningTryActually.apk)
Live Wallpaper Picker 2.3.4 (LiveWallpapersPicker.apk)
Market Feedback Agent 2.3.5 (GoogleFeedback.apk)
Media Hub 129 (MediaHub.apk)
Microbes 2.3.4 (Microbesgl.apk)
Mobile Print 1.4.1 (MobilePrint.apk)
My Uploads 1.5.13 (MediaUploader.apk)
N.O.V.A 2 HD 1.1
NASCAR 0.2
Ocean Weather 1.0 (SecretWallpaper1.apk)
PressReader 2.4.0706 (PressReader.apk)
Program Monitor 1.12 (ProgramMonitor.apk)
SamsungAppsUNA 2.0.11 (SamsungAppsUNAService.apk)
Search Applications Provider 2.3.6 (ApplicationsProvider.apk)
Self Test Mode 1.0 (SelfTestMode.apk)
Setup Wizard 1.3 (SetupWizard.apk)
SNS 1.5 (SnsProvider.apk)
SNS Disclaimer 1.0 (SnsDisclaimer.apk)
SNSAccountFb 1.0 (SnsAccountFb.apk)
SNSAccountLi 1.0 (SnsAccountLi.apk)
SNSAccountTw 1.0 (SnsAccountTw.apk)
SnsImageCache 1.0 (SnsImageCache.apk)
Social Hub 2.00.00001 (SocialHub.apk)
Speech Recorder 2.3.6 (SpeechRecorder.apk)
Sprint ID 1.5.40 (W_Installer.apk)
Sprint Mobile Wallet 1.5 (SprintMobileWallet.apk)
Sprint Music Plus 1.0
Sprint Radio 1.0.0.0000
Sprint TV & Movies 1.0
Sprint Zone SZ_2.5.12 (SprintZone.apk)
Talk 1.3 (Talk2.apk)
Tasks 1.0 (Tasks.apk)
Tasks Provider 2.3.4 (TasksProvider.apk)
TeleNav GPS Navigator 1.0
Terminal Emulator 2.3.6 (Term.apk)
Tracker 1.0 (MobileTrackerEngineTwo.apk)
Tutorial Widgets 1.05
VPN Services 2.3.6 (VpnServices.apk)
Wi-Fi sharing 1.0 (FTS.apk)
Wi-Fi sharing manager 1.0 (FTM.apk)
Windy Weather 1.0 (SecretWallpaper2.apk)
Yahoo! Finance 11.07.18.01 (SamsungWidget_StockClock.apk)
Cheers!
Vegas Rooted
Rootzwiki > ET4G forums > they have a completely stripped ROM for you.
Yes, there are other ROMs...
There are indeed custom ROMs out there...I am just offering help for those folks like me who are rooted but wish to continue using the stock ROM and just tweak it a bit by stripping it down and removing bloat. Installing a full custom ROM is a separate matter...
VegasRooted
thanks for d info. keep kies lol it will comes handy.
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Backup/Restore Suggestions...
The first thing I like to do immediately after rooting a new phone and making a ClockworkMod backup is to use Root Explorer to then make two copies of the following folders prior to stripping out any apps: System/App folder, System/Media folder, and the ClockworkMod/Backup folder (Which at this point contains a ClockworkMod backup of the original, unstripped stock ROM.)
I like to keep one copy of each of these three folders on the SD card itself, and put the second copy of each on my computer at home as a safe, redundant backup.
Then, if you ever want to restore any app that you had previously stripped out, you simply use Root Explorer to copy and paste the app (and it's .odex file) from your original copy of the System/App folder on the SD card to the System/App folder on the phone, and then (if necessary) change the app and it's .odex's permissions to match the correct settings that all of the other apps and .odex's are set to: Long-press the .apk or .odex, select "permissions", then make sure the permissions match up exactly with the other system .apk's permissions. Reboot the phone, and the app will be restored, good to go! (I like to reboot to recovery and clear the cache and Dalvik cache also...)
Cheers!
VegasRooted
Thanks VegasRooted...looking to do something similar with my E4T. Too many apps running in the background that I have no idea what they're doing.
I'm having a problem finding the Insecure Kernel that closely resembles mine: 2.6.35.7-SPH-D710.EG30-CL435734. Can you point me to where I can find the correct one? I can't show the link that I found at Inspired Geek that lists different kernels.
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spinn said:
Thanks VegasRooted...looking to do something similar with my E4T. Too many apps running in the background that I have no idea what they're doing.
I'm having a problem finding the Insecure Kernel that closely resembles mine: 2.6.35.7-SPH-D710.EG30-CL435734. Can you point me to where I can find the correct one? I can't show the link that I found at Inspired Geek that lists different kernels.
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Google "Epic 4G Touch Root Zedomax" and go to the XDA forum thread where you can follow the instructions to use Odin to install a (mostly) stock kernel with Superuser added to it, or Google "Android Creative Syndicate" and go to their website where you can find another Kernel to load the same way that has Superuser and ClockworkMod in it...Both will get you rooted, and there is a stock ROM (EG30) out there also that you can install with Odin in case anything goes wrong and you have to roll everything back to stock...(I did this once also.)
I am using Zedomax's Kernel right now...once installed it shows as "2.6.35.7"
Cheers!
VegasRooted
Thanks so much! This gave me a great start to getting rid of everything useless on my phone.
hey OP, thanks for the list.
I posted a ROM a little while ago on rootz here
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/8056-rom-10262011-naerokrom-beta-v12-odex-bare-bones-130mb/
on the 3rd post, I listed all the apk's I removed through personal testing. There might be some in there you don't have listed, if you want to take a look. Hope it helps get rid of all the junk you don't need. I'm sure you are OCD like I am about pre-installed crapware
If I dont want to uninstall all those applications, can I just use titanium backup to freeze them and be just as effective?
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If I dont want to uninstall all those applications, can I just use titanium backup to freeze them and be just as effective?
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depends on what you mean by "effective"
although they are frozen, they still take up a lot of space in the /system partition.
I like to remove them completely and keep the partition as light as possible
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naerok said:
hey OP, thanks for the list.
I posted a ROM a little while ago on rootz here
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/8056-rom-10262011-naerokrom-beta-v12-odex-bare-bones-130mb/
on the 3rd post, I listed all the apk's I removed through personal testing. There might be some in there you don't have listed, if you want to take a look. Hope it helps get rid of all the junk you don't need. I'm sure you are OCD like I am about pre-installed crapware
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Cool, thanks! I will check it out! Oh, and yes, I am very OCD when it comes to pre-installed garbage! hahaha
Cheers!
VegasRooted
I was looking for this list the other day and was surprised it wasn't available yet. Thanks for putting this together.
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Great work! Is it possible to make a zip file that's flashable through CWM that will remove these unneeded files..
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Thank you thread starter for this thread One of the best ever!! lol. I really want to know what all the apps mean and what they do before I remove it and something stops working that I usually use. I don't want to make any extra work for anybody though. I guess I can google the stuff I don't know.
Hey question for you all.. This is a picture of what im running.. With what im running am i able to safely still remove the above apps?
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Hey question for you all.. This is a picture of what im running.. With what im running am i able to safely still remove the above apps?
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Those are mostly still correct. I thought removing Google talk messed other stuff though so I wouldn't delete that. When I run a stock setup I only delete stuff I know for sure I don't use. This includes the Samsung widgets and apps, Sprint apps, and the randoms like nova and nascar.
This is basically cakulins bare rom converter. With the exception of a few apps.
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This is basically cakulins bare rom converter. With the exception of a few apps.
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Does that still work? I seem to remember having an issue the last time I tried it.
It does. Remember that you have to flash it immediately after flashing a new Rom.
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