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So I have done a few updates to OS, form stock ROM to CM6.1 RC3, RC4 Stable, and Pershoot's kernel. All of these have I have done a Nand Back up which stores to my SDCard. Well my 8GB card is sitting not to pretty at 714MB right now. I don't have much in there, and pretty much removed all my music.
So the question are:
* What is the best way to manage these backups so that I can save them, but not clutter up the sdcard?
* I saw a folder in my sdcard that had some backups, but they did not account to 2GB each or any where near that. Where should I look?
Really looking forward to a solution to this, otherwise my sdcard is basically rendered useless due to system upgrades/updates.
Thanks in advance for your help
You can save the backup files to your computer and then delete them from your SD card.
If you ever want to take a stroll down memory lane, then simply make some room on your SD card and transfer the backup to the card and restore via recovery or ROM manager.
As far as the missing memory goes, do you have a lot of camera pictures or video?
gee one said:
You can save the backup files to your computer and then delete them from your SD card.
If you ever want to take a stroll down memory lane, then simply make some room on your SD card and transfer the backup to the card and restore via recovery or ROM manager.
As far as the missing memory goes, do you have a lot of camera pictures or video?
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Gee one...no, not many pic s or videos. Before making any backups I was somewhere around 7.4GB or so. I did have alot of music which I removed once I started making backups due to lack of space.
Edit: I found the location of the backups and saved them to my pc. Thanks! I thought it was a bit more involved than that!
these backup files are stored in the /clockworkmod/ directory on your SDcard, not the backup one.
I only keep a few backups on my device - one that I made as soon as I'd rooted - it's stock, and then the one that I made before I make any changes to my phone (flash updates, etc)
IMO, there's no need to keep multiple backups of the same ROM
the orange bandit said:
these backup files are stored in the /clockworkmod/ directory on your SDcard, not the backup one.
I only keep a few backups on my device - one that I made as soon as I'd rooted - it's stock, and then the one that I made before I make any changes to my phone (flash updates, etc)
IMO, there's no need to keep multiple backups of the same ROM
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Yeah, that's what I did.
I found them under /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/ and I kept only the original from stock and the final one, but I also made a backup of the stock rom one.
I now have 4.1GB available on my card, up from 714MB.
Currently, I am saving the ROMS I download into a folder on my SD card named "ROMS". Within that folder I have "Froyo", "Gingerbread" and "add-ons".
Once I finish flashing a ROM (ie. reset apps, contacts, get screens set the way I want, make sure all works..etc.) I create a back-up for that ROM and name it. If I ever add new apps or anything, I reback-up..overwrite the orginal back-up..and so on..
I leave the "ROM" folder alone. Is there any reason for me to keep the orginal ROM zips when I keep updating the "back-up" folder?
I think I am just using extra space on the card that is not needed by keeping BOTH the "back-up" folder and the orgianl ROM downloaded zip file??
xavier2404 said:
Currently, I am saving the ROMS I download into a folder on my SD card named "ROMS". Within that folder I have "Froyo", "Gingerbread" and "add-ons".
Once I finish flashing a ROM (ie. reset apps, contacts, get screens set the way I want, make sure all works..etc.) I create a back-up for that ROM and name it. If I ever add new apps or anything, I reback-up..overwrite the orginal back-up..and so on..
I leave the "ROM" folder alone. Is there any reason for me to keep the orginal ROM zips when I keep updating the "back-up" folder?
I think I am just using extra space on the card that is not needed by keeping BOTH the "back-up" folder and the orgianl ROM downloaded zip file??
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Best thing to do is backup all your stuff on your computer then you can delete whatever you want but leave your backups alone just invade you need them In a hurry
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I do kind of the same thing....I have a folder on my SD card named ROMS and folders inside of that. After I install the ROM I delete the zip from the SD card. When I download a new ROM (Warm Z TwoPointTwo Nightlies) I backup using Recovery in CWM and I also backup my apps using TitaniumBackup.
Then I flash the new ROM and restore my apps. If anything goes wrong (so far it has not) I can always restore from the Recover backup.
Hope this helps
I keep a text file in the directory where I backup my Nandroid backups which is a legend of the backups (which ROM's, mods, etc.). I tend to delete earlier backups where a subsequent backup is of the same setup only updated. I also note which backups are still on my SD card. Since I have a 32gb card, I tend to keep the stock ROM, my last good backup, and the last backup of any prior ROM (i.e. 3 backups) on the card, in case I can't get to my computer and need a quick restore.
I use either Rom Manager or CWR to create my back-ups. I have seen alot of references to Titanium. I recently flashed a CM7 ROM where Titanium is pre-installed. What is the benefit (if any) to using Titanium instead of RM or CWR?
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hgoldner said:
I keep a text file in the directory where I backup my Nandroid backups which is a legend of the backups (which ROM's, mods, etc.). I tend to delete earlier backups where a subsequent backup is of the same setup only updated. I also note which backups are still on my SD card. Since I have a 32gb card, I tend to keep the stock ROM, my last good backup, and the last backup of any prior ROM (i.e. 3 backups) on the card, in case I can't get to my computer and need a quick restore.
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A text file? Sorry..new to most of this..but is storing as a text file less storage space used? Also, is it a simple matter of going into root explorer..changing the file type to .zip to access it again if needed?
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I think he means making a legend as a text file and leaving the zips as is. Plus you wouldn't see much size difference by changing the extension to .txt and you'd be screwed if you got a bootloop since you'd have to change it back somehow.
I'm 2 days new to this whole rooting thing, I successfully rooted my phone & installed a nice ROM. I have a couple of questions regarding the micro SD card if anyone is able to help, thanks! (8gb)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144447 < Currently running this rom if it matters..
1. I was wondering after a ROM is installed, does it need to remain on the microSD card?
2. Am I able to have more than 1 ROM stored on a SD card?
3. If I'm able to have multiple ROM's on the SD card, do they need to remain on the root of the card, or am I able to put them in a folder just out of neatness sake?
4. Also, if I'm able to have multiple ROM's on the SC card, is the app ROM Manager able to switch back & forth at will?
1 No once you flash the rom you can delete the rom zip file(s).
2 Yes you can have multiple zip files or you can make nandroids.
3 You can put them in whatever folder you like. I made a folder called custom roms and themes and kernels
4 nandroids unless you want to freshly install them
but bro I recommend you get amon RA as a recovery amon-ra is 100 times better than clockwordmod
to install amon-ra just download this
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...iles.androidspin.com/downloa...le=PC36IMG.zip
drag it to sd card and go to into bootloader thern fastboot and it should say update
devindjs411 said:
I'm 2 days new to this whole rooting thing, I successfully rooted my phone & installed a nice ROM. I have a couple of questions regarding the micro SD card if anyone is able to help, thanks! (8gb)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144447 < Currently running this rom if it matters..
1. I was wondering after a ROM is installed, does it need to remain on the microSD card?
2. Am I able to have more than 1 ROM stored on a SD card?
3. If I'm able to have multiple ROM's on the SD card, do they need to remain on the root of the card, or am I able to put them in a folder just out of neatness sake?
4. Also, if I'm able to have multiple ROM's on the SC card, is the app ROM Manager able to switch back & forth at will?
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1, no, you can delete the downloaded roms from your SD card after flashing
2, yes, you can store as many (rom).zip(s) on your SD as you'd like.
3, you can move them to any folder that you'd like...I kept mine in a self made folder called Roms, which was then separated into sub folders for organization of specific roms and their themes/mods
4, unless switching from nandroid backups, which must be stored where Rom manager puts them, you can certainly fresh-flash roms from your customized folder of original (rom.zip(s))
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And to answer ur next future question, no u can not restore nandroids made by cwm with amon RA or vice versa
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Thanks for all the speedy responses! Um, but I'm still new to everything, so what is a nandroid?
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Nevermind, that's what Google is for, can't use everyone's knowledge for free! Lol, but when organizing your SC card, is there a certain way you organize your folders for music & pics & videos? Thanks again!
its when you make a backup of your rom
For instance I make a backup of decks rom with all my games and apps and themes and kernels and I decide to try out a new rom like MIUI so i go into my recovery (amon-ra) and click backup and it makes a nandroid ....
then i delete all my user data and cache and davlik so I flash miui but and I don't like it so I go back to amon-ra and click click restore and i restore my nandroid and then it will resotre everything u had before u flahsed miui when u had decks rom
all your apps games kernel theme and it works on every rom
Here's a suggestion.
On my SD Card, I made a folder and named it XDA.
In that, I made sub-folders named Apps, Drivers, ROMs, Kernels, Utilities, ROOT Files, Themes, and maybe a few others, so I can store everything I need.
The only ROMS in my ROMS folder now are MikG2.2, MIUI 1.7, Synergy RC1 and Koni III, although I've flashed and ran just about everyone there is. Those just happen to be most current and Koni's is a stable ROM I can depend on, if I ever need it.
Same with Nandroids. Mine are renamed by adding to the end of the computer generated name _mikG_2_2_complete, meaning that is completely setup, or _bare, meaning that is before I set my apps back, prefs, etc.
Anything that is obsolete, I delete, so I have 4 nandroids now, stock/rooted, MikG bare and MikG complete, also Synergy complete, the ROM I Came from before I flashed MikG last night
Hi,
I was wondering if someone could recommend a good SD card for my Evo 4G.
I want this card to be able to format it to the recommendations of the Synergy Team and not crap out on me in 12 months.
I appreciate any advice given.
Thank you ,
Roc
Any card should be fine. Get the highest class you can afford. And NEVER buy memory cards on ebay, there are TONS of fakes. Only buy from authorized retailers.
If any, what files would I need to transfer over to the new card?
Don't need to transfer any files, only the ones you use (pictures, music, nandroids, backups, and if you use the purchased version of TB the license text document to the root of the card, etc). Or, once you have backed up your old card to your computer, just set the partitions the way you want them on your new card and copy everything back over, totally up to you and what you want/need.
You could just move the ROM zip to the sdcard by itself and flash it in recovery with nothing on the card, it will make all the files on the sdcard that it needs (don't forget making the folder on the sdcard for synergy if you want sense, etc). Way too many options, but you probably get the jest of it.
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Don't need to transfer any files, only the ones you use (pictures, music, nandroids, backups, and if you use the purchased version of TB the license text document to the root of the card, etc). Or, once you have backed up your old card to your computer, just set the partitions the way you want them on your new card and copy everything back over, totally up to you and what you want/need.
You could just move the ROM zip to the sdcard by itself and flash it in recovery with nothing on the card, it will make all the files on the sdcard that it needs (don't forget making the folder on the sdcard for synergy if you want sense, etc). Way too many options, but you probably get the jest of it.
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I really appreciate your time and information
Thank you ,
Roc
dpilcher said:
Don't need to transfer any files, only the ones you use (pictures, music, nandroids, backups, and if you use the purchased version of TB the license text document to the root of the card, etc). .
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Could you please tell me the directories where I can find these?
Thank you ,
Roc
Would recommend you copying your current sdcard to a folder on your computer and keeping it current (frequency depends on your comfort level). You can then move all the contents to the new card if you want. Remember, ext partitions and apps to sdcard will cause issues when just copying information from computer to phone and installing a rom, those files won't be seen and you'll have some ghosting. I'll put a couple links at the bottom that others have put together, but the locations for your main question are:
Pictures /sdcard/DCIM
Music /sdcard/MUSIC
Nandroid /sdcard/nandroid
If you have a licensed version of Titanium Backup, then the file name is TitaniumBackup_license.txt and put that on the root of the sdcard.
SMS_backup /sdcard/sms_backup (If you used the stock SMS app and did a backup from within the texting app via the menu button)
Now, keep in mind, I'm not sure how your have your old card set up. If you have created ext2-3 or if you have moved any apps or storage to the sdcard, you may lose that data for those apps if you have not done a backup and then restore it after you replace the card. I'm not talking about system data, just apps that you use and be very careful about restoring any system data when jumping to a new rom, often causes issues that look rom related but are user generated.
Even thought these do not pertain to your question, a lot of good info at these links and they direct you to others.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121538
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204
dpilcher said:
Would recommend you copying your current sdcard to a folder on your computer and keeping it current (frequency depends on your comfort level). You can then move all the contents to the new card if you want. Remember, ext partitions and apps to sdcard will cause issues when just copying information from computer to phone and installing a rom, those files won't be seen and you'll have some ghosting. I'll put a couple links at the bottom that others have put together, but the locations for your main question are:
Pictures /sdcard/DCIM
Music /sdcard/MUSIC
Nandroid /sdcard/nandroid
If you have a licensed version of Titanium Backup, then the file name is TitaniumBackup_license.txt and put that on the root of the sdcard.
SMS_backup /sdcard/sms_backup (If you used the stock SMS app and did a backup from within the texting app via the menu button)
Now, keep in mind, I'm not sure how your have your old card set up. If you have created ext2-3 or if you have moved any apps or storage to the sdcard, you may lose that data for those apps if you have not done a backup and then restore it after you replace the card. I'm not talking about system data, just apps that you use and be very careful about restoring any system data when jumping to a new rom, often causes issues that look rom related but are user generated.
Even thought these do not pertain to your question, a lot of good info at these links and they direct you to others.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121538
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204
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Thank you for all the information you have given me. I really appreciate your time and assistance.
Regards,
Roc
can someone help me?
the wonder is my first android and I wanted to learn while before hacking on it ...
last night I did the root and installed ClockworkMod 6.0.1.2 to make a nandroid before flashing a ICS rom.
but I have come some doubts:
1) the nandroid with clockworkmod is done either on internal mem on external sd right? I tried with the internal memory and I did a backup of 17MB ... I have copied to the PC the folder ClockworkMod always 17MB: they seemed to me just a few for a nandroid backup... I did it again ... the same ...
2) then I added the external sd and I deleted the two previous backups from internal mem and redid the backup to external sd ... the process took about twenty minutes (slower then before), and in fact has made a backup of 790mb
3) I try to copy the backup on the PC with the phone attached but it don't work .... I removed the SD card and copied the folder on pc with win7: I did not copy some files because they are "too long" (???)... then I tried to copy it on a pc with ubuntu and makes the copy but when the transfer is finished tells me that the number of files copied is right but instead of 790mb is only 725mb: I need to trust this backup? ?? better to delete and redo everything? I do not want to flash something and do not have a working nandroid...
another question: when I flash a rom and do ALL wipe the sd external is reset? no I think, right? and to put on the contacts and messages and the settings I use those saved using kies or do I need to do a better titanium backup or save contacts synced to gmail?
sorry for the many questions but as I'm a true noob and before I do damage I want to have in mind what I was doing
I'm waiting your reply before flash a rom... thanks
bennymax said:
can someone help me?
the wonder is my first android and I wanted to learn while before hacking on it ...
last night I did the root and installed ClockworkMod 6.0.1.2 to make a nandroid before flashing a ICS rom.
but I have come some doubts:
1) the nandroid with clockworkmod is done either on internal mem on external sd right? I tried with the internal memory and I did a backup of 17MB ... I have copied to the PC the folder ClockworkMod always 17MB: they seemed to me just a few for a nandroid backup... I did it again ... the same ...
2) then I added the external sd and I deleted the two previous backups from internal mem and redid the backup to external sd ... the process took about twenty minutes (slower then before), and in fact has made a backup of 790mb
3) I try to copy the backup on the PC with the phone attached but it don't work .... I removed the SD card and copied the folder on pc with win7: I did not copy some files because they are "too long" (???)... then I tried to copy it on a pc with ubuntu and makes the copy but when the transfer is finished tells me that the number of files copied is right but instead of 790mb is only 725mb: I need to trust this backup? ?? better to delete and redo everything? I do not want to flash something and do not have a working nandroid...
another question: when I flash a rom and do ALL wipe the sd external is reset? no I think, right? and to put on the contacts and messages and the settings I use those saved using kies or do I need to do a better titanium backup or save contacts synced to gmail?
sorry for the many questions but as I'm a true noob and before I do damage I want to have in mind what I was doing
I'm waiting your reply before flash a rom... thanks
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First thing: Why do you need to copy the backup to your PC? I can certainly assure you that the backup is working fine. Just leave your SD card within your device upon backing up. And just leave it there. If you ever really wanted to copy the backup to your pc, well don't get the file size(s) wrong. They will certainly be different since the systems you are trying to copy the files to uses a different file system. So it's normal for them to have different file sizes. To add to that, the CWM uses generated MD5 to confirm that the backup (it's related files) are correct before it will restore a certain backup. If something is wrong or the backup got corrupted, CWM will not continue in restoring it.
Second: when you flash, your personal files in your sd card will remain intact. Flashing (may) be only wiping an SD-EXT if you created such partition in your card since apps uses this. So don't worry.
For most customized ROM, I'm afraid components regarding the communication of your device and Kies won't be integrated since devs prefer your system to be our of bloats as possible. So upon flashing a custom ROM, you might not be able to use Kies anymore. In flashing, internal data such as contacts, messages, APN, wifi(s), etc. will be erased as the system will be erased. So;
For your contacts: Sync it with Google or export them to our SD for later import.
For your APN and messages: There's an app in the Play Store that allows you to backup and restore them.
The titanium backup is a very good tool too. Use it.
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First thing: Why do you need to copy the backup to your PC? I can certainly assure you that the backup is working fine. Just leave your SD card within your device upon backing up. And just leave it there. If you ever really wanted to copy the backup to your pc, well don't get the file size(s) wrong. They will certainly be different since the systems you are trying to copy the files to uses a different file system. So it's normal for them to have different file sizes. To add to that, the CWM uses generated MD5 to confirm that the backup (it's related files) are correct before it will restore a certain backup. If something is wrong or the backup got corrupted, CWM will not continue in restoring it.
Second: when you flash, your personal files in your sd card will remain intact. Flashing (may) be only wiping an SD-EXT if you created such partition in your card since apps uses this. So don't worry.
For most customized ROM, I'm afraid components regarding the communication of your device and Kies won't be integrated since devs prefer your system to be our of bloats as possible. So upon flashing a custom ROM, you might not be able to use Kies anymore. In flashing, internal data such as contacts, messages, APN, wifi(s), etc. will be erased as the system will be erased. So;
For your contacts: Sync it with Google or export them to our SD for later import.
For your APN and messages: There's an app in the Play Store that allows you to backup and restore them.
The titanium backup is a very good tool too. Use it.
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thanks a lot bbmadzky, I understand what you say
I wanna copy backup in my pc to have a secure place where put the first nandroid of my wonder with stock rom as I have bougth it external sd can be corrupted or deleted and have a genuine nandroid of my phone I think is better
just do another backup to ha the certainty to have a good backup and now can I try to flash my first costomized rom
thanks a lot dude
ciao
It's been a pleasure in helping you with your doubt. Happy flashing and don't ever forget to do a nandroid backup.
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This reply may be too late in coming...but I'll post it anyway. First, the size of your created nandroid....17mb.....WAY too small....the size of the backup I made was +/-800mb.
Second....if you REALLY have to copy it to a PC, zip it with minimal compression first....I found from personal experience that it copies MUCH more easily and safely....
Finally, keeping personal data (contacts, SMS, lists of installed apps [not including app data]) safe. You can install apps that will make data files of your texts and installed apps that can be accessed after flashing a custom ROM to enable recovery and re installation, and for your contacts (if you store them on the phone instead of the sim card) you go to your contacts, press the menu button and select import/export, then export to SD card. If you use these apps (appbak and SMS backup and restore) and the export to SD card function on your phone, you will find that data files have been created by using them.....these data files MUST be moved to your EXTERNAL SD card BEFORE flashing your custom ROM. They will be perfectly safe there as long as you haven't played around with the storage configurations on your phone....which I don't believe is possible with a stock ROM anyway....
Good luck and happy flashing
Hope this has helped....if it has, click thanks
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not so late dude
the problem is... I don't have a working backup still now!
I just flased cm9 and RemICS 1.5 rom and every time I tried to make a backup before flashing...
the first time I have the above doubt (as you can read above)
the second time I've tried to install CWM 6.0.1.0 instead 6.0.1.2 and the backup process is finish well (or it was what I belive ) then when I try to comeback to stock version an error has occurred in restore and I must re-do a flash with stock firmware because the SGW was freezed.
I don't know if there are problems with installation of CWM, the release of CWM (now I try with a CWM 5.5.0.4), with the type of backup files (n CWM6 you can choose the type of format file do you have from the backup process) but now before to flash another rom I want to have a WORKING nandroid!
thanks for your reply and your suggests too... maybe make I something wrong but I follow the tools on web and these are simple... maybe is only bad luck... I retry
Dude...if you read my thread here.......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846449
And specifically the replies posted by IvanKurnia, you'll find the links (and installation method) for the version of CWM that I'm using.....with success. When you make your nandroid backup, you need to make sure you have enough space for it to complete as you don't get any warning about lack of memory....the backup process will simply stop....and unless you know what to look for, you may not realise.
I'm not totally sure if flashing different versions of CWM on top of each other will cause instability or not....maybe somebody else can answer that one.....
I'd advise getting as much info as you can about EVERYTHING! before you make any more modifications to your phone.....read as many threads and ask as many questions as it takes.....most members of this community will be happy to help (though there are one or two who have a superiority complex...lol)....it's better to ask a hundred questions and get it right, than to ask none and turn your phone into an expensive paperweight.......
CM9...I don't HAVE to.....I just.....can..
first of all: I wanted to write mate not dude sorry for my bad english...
thanks keithross
I read your thread and all the replies in it...
yes the metheod for flashing the CWM is the same I knew. I prefer to flash it whit odin.
I don't think I have problems flashing other versione because I must do a replace of stock firmware before: I set the cell in the status as new... then I reflash on it the CWM.
the only thing I don't have made is to set on USB debugging ON... uhmmm maybe is this the problem?
I try now to flash, make a nandroid, try recovery by nandroid to understand if nandroid works! If not... I try to instal CWM witn the method has showed by ivankurnia
for free space I have enough space in my SD ext card (3gb ca.) and not so many app installed... and yes I use often forum and I think these are the greatest resource on the web xda for android is "the bible" I think so!
p.s. your thread has so many informations I need...
Hi Bennymax, I found ivankurnias method the easiest to use....I'd tried ODIN without success....but successfully installed CWM on the first try with the terminal emulator/busybox method.....others have successfully used this method too. I do still stand by my concerns about flashing different versions of CWM on top of each other as I've come to believe that the recovery partition is separate to the ROM partition and that changing the ROM partition has no effect on the contents of the recovery partition. I hope I'm wrong about that, and that the issues you are having with nandroid backup and restore are as you say bad luck....but I'm not convinced.....having said that, I'm not a developer, and I could be wrong. I feel that it is something that needs researching just in case the luck you've had is not bad, but good in so far as you haven't bricked your phone yet......
Anyway, good luck however you decide to proceed....
Keith
CM9...I don't HAVE to.....I just.....can..