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Hey guys, I am not a noob to flashing roms or anything but I have been on the new Fresh for awhile and I really want to try out a new rom. I have been eyeing CM6 and Myn's Two Point Two. I was just looking for some input of those that are currently running these roms as to why I should switch from fresh?
Thanks
Fresh is a great ROM. There's no real need to switch unless you just want to try something new (which seems to be the case here). CM6 is a fantastic ROM and it's even better when you run it with a >>Snap kernel in Turbo mode. CM6 offers a very slim and stock Android feel. The only bad thing is no 4G (unless you don't care about that). Other things to note about CM6 is that HDMI is not available either. I don't know if they got the FM radio working yet either but, really, who the hell uses FM radio on their EVO? I mean I could see the uses but still.....
Anyway, myn's Warm ROM is *really* nice if you like Sense ROMs. The screen transition animations are kinda trippy at first but you get used to them. I also like how dark the theme is. We're talking pitch black notification bar, black/gray notifications - pair that with a black wallpaper and your phone is super-dark. The font that comes with it is real nice to me but I can see why others wouldn't like it. Thankfully, myn includes the stock fonts in the OP on his thread. I like Warm. It's different (to me anyway). Worth giving a shot.
I'm a flashoholic though. I'll probably switch to something new or old within a matter of hours That's just how it goes. You'll be happy with either Warm or CM6 but if you like Sense-based ROMs give Warm a shot. I think you'll be enlightened.
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Fresh is a great ROM. There's no real need to switch unless you just want to try something new (which seems to be the case here). CM6 is a fantastic ROM and it's even better when you run it with a >>Snap kernel in Turbo mode. CM6 offers a very slim and stock Android feel. The only bad thing is no 4G (unless you don't care about that). Other things to note about CM6 is that HDMI is not available either. I don't know if they got the FM radio working yet either but, really, who the hell uses FM radio on their EVO? I mean I could see the uses but still.....
Anyway, myn's Warm ROM is *really* nice if you like Sense ROMs. The screen transition animations are kinda trippy at first but you get used to them. I also like how dark the theme is. We're talking pitch black notification bar, black/gray notifications - pair that with a black wallpaper and your phone is super-dark. The font that comes with it is real nice to me but I can see why others wouldn't like it. Thankfully, myn includes the stock fonts in the OP on his thread. I like Warm. It's different (to me anyway). Worth giving a shot.
I'm a flashoholic though. I'll probably switch to something new or old within a matter of hours That's just how it goes. You'll be happy with either Warm or CM6 but if you like Sense-based ROMs give Warm a shot. I think you'll be enlightened.
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Wow, thanks man I wasn't expecting an in-depth explanation like you gave. I really appreciate it, and yeah I am pretty addicted to Sense unfortunately, everyone always bags on it though and says how its bogs down your phone etc. Thats why I was considering trying CM6. Does the Music Widget work for you on Warm? I had read that it wasn't working for some people and that was why I was apprehensive about switching. Also, what kernel would you advise to use with it. I have always been a netarchy guy never really tried out Kings too much.
The Music widget works for me. I've never had a problem with it. As for kernels, I'm with you man - Netarchy FTW! King's kernels are hit or miss for me. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. I don't mean to sound like a **** but I don't have time for hit or miss So, netarchy 4.1.9.1 CFS is working just fine for me at the moment.
As for Sense, I like Sense too although sometimes I miss LauncherPro. Then I move to LauncherPro and then I miss Sense. Go figure. I'm never happy with these things for long. Just keep an eye out for my sig as you wander through the forums. It changes, like, every other freakin day.
haha will do man I appreciate all of your help, in that case im gonna head on my way to the Warm. Just curious though I tried to use the CFS on the Fresh Rom and I was getting boot loops like crazy. What is the difference in BFS and CFS that is the only thing I have never been able to understand with kernels.?
I am using myn's right now and is extremely quick for a sense rom. Battery life is great as well. I can go 16 hours on a charge with 4g always on. Best sense rom I have used to date. I am also a flash-a-holic, LOL.
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I am using myn's right now and is extremely quick for a sense rom. Battery life is great as well. I can go 16 hours on a charge with 4g always on. Best sense rom I have used to date. I am also a flash-a-holic, LOL.
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What kernel are you running? I am getting ready to flash I just would like to have everything good to go with flash number 1 haha
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haha will do man I appreciate all of your help, in that case im gonna head on my way to the Warm. Just curious though I tried to use the CFS on the Fresh Rom and I was getting boot loops like crazy. What is the difference in BFS and CFS that is the only thing I have never been able to understand with kernels.?
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CFS vs BFS..... they have to do with different CPU schedulers if I understand it correctly. Theoretically, you're supposed to get slightly better performance with BFS but it's been a little buggy on my phone (launch day, 002 hardware) and what's performance without stability? CFS works just as fine but, honestly, you're going to have to search for this answer on your own. King's kernel threads are where I found a really good explanation of the differences between the two and I remember it's how I decided CFS was probably best for me just for the life of me I can't remember what was said now that I think about it. Not all EVO's are created equal. For some, CFS rocks and for others it sucks. Same goes for BFS. Just try both and see how it goes. I'd start with CFS if I were you.
Sorry I couldn't give you a better answer! That's not usually my style
Well I appreciate all your help man, its not every member that is willing to give an in-depth response. Very rarely do you see that. So thanks a million for that man.
No problem. Just doing my part to pay it forward.
i just flashed a few roms tonight i have been using fresh but wanted to try a new one ive tried calks 2 virus roms and now warm i personally like it like a previous post its real snappy and my set cpu isnt even installed on my phone kings bfs 9 seems to work the best for me ive tried other roms with other kernels mixed and matched but im stuck on kings
What do you like better about Warm over Fresh?
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You just happened to mention the only three roms that I have ran for long lengths of time.
CyanogenMod:
I ran CM6 the longest and it is a very lean and snappy rom - it also got me hooked on LauncherPro. I really loved the customization ability of CM6 and it was a pleasant change from SenseUI. Also one of the biggest factors was it was the first Rom that I used with FPS unlocked. This is the only rom I used SetCPU with and everything ran stable and quick.
Having said that...
I found myself missing some sense widgets (LauncherPro paid version really addresses this but there is a smoothness in the sense widgets that it is missing). Also there is the issue with 4G and some quirkiness I experienced with CM6.
Fresh 3.2 and 3.3:
I flashed Fresh 3.2 and fell back in love with Sense. The new HTC kernel 11 came out and the FPS cap was gone (Fresh 3.3 I think). There was much I had missed from Sense - it is refined and just feels complete with everything (4G, camera, etc...) working properly. I can't hit the quadrant scores that I could on CM6 but I realized that I no longer cared about that. The rom was smooth and snappy. It did everything that I wanted it to.
Myn's Warm Two.Two:
I am currently on Myn's Warm 2.2 with HTC #11 and I'm loving it. For me, it's just about the looks of this thing. It's sleek and snappy with sort of a minimalist look. It retains the functionality of sense with a completely custom look and feel. The black themed keyboard fits so well with it - I really think HTC would have been better off with this design.
Conclusion:
Your real decision is do you prefer AOSP or Sense. I personally find myself enjoying the functionality of Sense more - however, I can totally see where others love AOSP. I love them both - but prefer the refinement of Sense and it is plenty smooth and snappy for me.
AOSP - CyanogenMod
Sense (stock look) - Fresh
Sense (custom look) - Myn's Warm
My Perfect Rom - SenseUI (including widgets) with LauncherPro launcher. Unfortunately for me, this doesn't exist yet
Note:
I know battery life is a hot topic and influences the rom and kernel that people select. I often wonder if it is hardware or application related because I have seen 24+ hour battery life from each of these roms/kernels. Some may have been a little better but the difference was negligible.
I don't really consider myself a heavy user - but not a light one either. Maybe I have just been lucky so far. I generally put my phone on charge every night (I've missed a night here or there) and I have NEVER gotten below 15% battery life - even camping for two days in airplane mode)
What are your guys thoughts on the best overall rom for the evo is ??? Right now i am running warm twopointtwo
Depends if you're looking for raw performance or aesthetic appeal.
Performance: CM6.1 with Snap 7.6 (turbo enabled). That combination get 2600+ quadrant, by far the fastest/snappiest rom.
Appearance: MIUI. Great looking rom, still very snappy, still AOSP. Support for easy theming.
also, inb4 "there are already a hundred other topics like this"
My Opinions:
Sense: I've come to dislike HTC Sense so much I can't stand it for more than a day here and there. I don't know much about the Sense offerings lately, but I do know some have very little Sense left in them.
MIUI: Interesting. Very simple and straight forward. I described the stock MIUI to my girlfriend as "playful". It's clean and stable. Graphically it looks very nice (if you can ignore some of the similarities with the iConform.. I mean iFone) but it's not quite complicated enough for me, although I am still running it after about 4 days There are some things about MIUI that I love and would definitely be part of my ideal rom.
I think with a sharp enough theme, and some time for bc and crew to iron some very minor wrinkles I could get to like it.
Some people run LP+ over MIUI, I think that kind of defeats the purpose a little.. but I may give it a go
CM: It is what it is. It has no fogees. It has no eta for updates. It has a massive dedicated team devoted to making the most they can from google's android sauce. CM is extremely stable as is. I've played with kernels a little but my preference right now is CM6.1rc1 with LP+, no special kernel or setcpu, just wipe cache and dalvik once or twice a month and it's pretty much golden.
It's fast and reliable, and for the first time in a LONG time I didn't have a single random reboot running 6.1rc1 for the last 3 weeks
that's my story and I'm sticking to it (probably)
miui is where it's at
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as far as sense goes:
ava v10: extremely stabe. smoothest of any rom i have ever seen, aosp or sense. decent battery. needs more visual enhancements. all around best sense rom.
myns rls3: extremely good looking. no other things going for it. it seems the rom is just a theme plus a bunch of add ons that are also themed. if only it were actually a theme...
aosp: cm6.1 all the way.
So here's my question- I love Cyanogen but haven't really given sense a shot. I went from Eris to D1 to Fascinate to Droid X to Inc. I really like the Inc so much more than all the others but wanted to try and do it right the first time. What Sense ROM are you all using that yields the most stability/battery life/features? Kernel advice? Thanks in advance.
I like stock sense so I use virtuous but as far as kernels right now Chad has the best kernels and there easy to find in the development section.
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I use the stock 2.2 leaked ROM from August (rooted).
All it's missing is full bluetooth features for BT mouse and keyboards.
I have tried many.
Myn's Warm Two Point Two rls4 is currently on my phone.
This is the best ROM out now in my eyes. I like sense, but I am not to big a fan of plain vanilla android, so I don't really use anything like Cyanogen. Maybe if Koush makes a vanilla gingerbread ROM I would use that, but for now I like sense 2.2
Warm Two Point Two has been on my phone the longest compared to any other ROM.
*Have had barely any FC's at all. I can't even think of the last time it happened.
*Fast
*Looks sweet as default without theme.
Using Kernel included with ROM and 2.15.00.11.19 radio
1348 score in Quadrant
38MFLOPS in Linpack
Stability - Virtuous, Uncommon Sense and Redemption. They have all been around and are tried and true. If I am not mistaken, Myn's Warm 2.2 is an Evo based rom and oyu can customize it (I have not flashed it). I am running Redemptive, it is an Evo/Inc hybrid, there are a number of good themes out there and Lou has also released a "senseless" version. Lots of great options.
As far as kernals go, they interact differently with each Rom. Chad is doing some great work as well as Lou. On Battery life... it is so subjective, I don't know why anyone talks about it. I have a stock battery and get 6-8 hours out of it regardless of the Rom or Kernal. I am just glad that it charges fast again (about 1% every minute and a half).
Warm TwoPointTwo with the kernel included with it. Stable, fast, and passable battery life (still gonna buy a 1750mAh battery though)
I use Desire Z. Epic speed and epic benchmarks. Some bugs.
+1 for Myn's Warm Two Point Two rls4
Smooth, clean, and stable. Best Incredible ROM I've tried hands down.
If you're looking for more enhancements/features to a sense rom, I highly recommend Skyraider Sense. In addition to having the up-to-date sense framework, extra goodies are included such as the power control toggles in the drop-down notification bar. Other nice additions like the gingerbread keyboard baked into the rom is convienient as well. I've been running the latest Skyraider Sense for a while now and it has been rock steady achieving uptimes up to 166 hours before having to reboot to flash something.
Skyraider is basically Stock Sense +, with the + indicating some additional goodies without veering too far away from the stock experience.
As for a kernel, I have one that's been my tried-and-true for months now. That is adrynalyne's undervolted. Fantastic battery life when paired with setcpu (as it was designed to play nice with it) and great stability. The only problem with it is that it only uses the conservative governer well, so if you really like ondemand or interactive you may want to look elsewhere. Despite this, it runs perfectly fine for me. The only percieved difference is in the quadrant score, which ultimately means not so much.
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I absolutely Loved loved loved Lou's Redemptive Revolution with the stock .17 kernel. That ROM is lightning fast and I could easily score 30+ hours of battery life with a 1750 mAH battery from Seido and Juice Defender/Set CPU Profiles.
Right now I'm just screwing with CM6.1 because I basically have Android ADD. I flash a new ROM nearly every week it seems.
EDIT: making this post kind of gave me the urge to flash a new ROM. I'm thinking about using his Senseless Redemptive Revolution, because I really dig Launcher Pro, plus I paid for it so I might as well use it.
SkyRaider is almost 100% stock sense and I have 0 problems with it. Smooth, fast, and the Dev is very responsive to everyone's questions.
Myn's Warm 2.2 easily.
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So here's my question- I love Cyanogen but haven't really given sense a shot. I went from Eris to D1 to Fascinate to Droid X to Inc. I really like the Inc so much more than all the others but wanted to try and do it right the first time. What Sense ROM are you all using that yields the most stability/battery life/features? Kernel advice? Thanks in advance.
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I put my vote in for Virtuous. I am currently running v3.2 rom with the virtuous custom kernel v3. It runs smooth and I have never had a single problem or issue. As far as i've seen everything works and it is a huge improovement in battery life compared to stock when combined with setcpu and advanced task killer froyo.
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I put my vote in for Virtuous. I am currently running v3.2 rom with the virtuous custom kernel v3. It runs smooth and I have never had a single problem or issue. As far as i've seen everything works and it is a huge improovement in battery life compared to stock when combined with setcpu and advanced task killer froyo.
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I agree that Virtuous 3.2 (and 3.1 before it) are closest to the pure Sense experience, at least on the Incredible. It's also easy to install (no wipe required) and easy to mod. I've switched a few notification bar icons and the lock screen without a problem. The custom kernel #3 that comes with 3.2 handles battery life nicely, too.
A few comments:
1. There is a reason there are 5 desire Z based inc roms out there - 4 in the last 2 weeks or so. New sense beats the pants out of old sense roms both in terms of speed and functionality. There might be some bugs but the overall experience is radically superior. Try one out for a few days. You will like them.
2. MIUI is probably the most beautiful of the AOSP Roms - you must have that in your roms to try list. Its AOSP but really pretty
I have tried all the regular older sense roms too but these are what I have gravitated to.
I appreciate everyones feedback. I've just decided to keep it aosp. I like the lightness and quickness of it all. As far as miui goes- seems kinda like running an iPhone theme. I don't want an iPhone. Also- app management seems retarded. No drawer?
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Its personal preferences I guess. Coming from am iphone, I found the concept of just one app drawer wherein all apps are arranged only alphabetically very odd and confusing. Miui attracted me because I finally saw some easy way to organize them by type. Plus I always hated having only 7 home screens to work with. I ended up with 9 in miui because I love widgets for news, email, messages, facebook, twitter etc. and with the folders and so many widgets, I needed more screens... For me, widgets is one of android's big advantages over the iphone. and I need more screens for more widgets!
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Its personal preferences I guess. Coming from am iphone, I found the concept of just one app drawer wherein all apps are arranged only alphabetically very odd and confusing. Miui attracted me because I finally saw some easy way to organize them by type. Plus I always hated having only 7 home screens to work with. I ended up with 9 in miui because I love widgets for news, email, messages, facebook, twitter etc. and with the folders and so many widgets, I needed more screens... For me, widgets is one of android's big advantages over the iphone. and I need more screens for more widgets!
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I am currently using Miui as my daily driver too, love it's default launcher.
Ever since I found Launcher Pro I've never used anything else.
I'm running SkyRaider 3.5 (which is HTC Sense) and I'm wondering if I should go to an AOSP ROM like CM7.
I'm wondering:
> Will it be faster than current setup?
> Will it be better on battery than current setup?
Let me know, thanks.
Battery and speed will improve depending on which kernal you use. The main advantage to using a AOSP ROM for me was better bluetooth support. I can't use wii controlers with my emulators using Sense but I can if I use a non-Sense ROM like CM6 or CM7. Shows you what I look for in a ROM doesn't it.
Doesn't Skyraider offer a senseless version of the Skyraider ROM?
POQbum said:
Ever since I found Launcher Pro I've never used anything else.
I'm running SkyRaider 3.5 (which is HTC Sense) and I'm wondering if I should go to an AOSP ROM like CM7.
I'm wondering:
> Will it be faster than current setup?
> Will it be better on battery than current setup?
Let me know, thanks.
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Speed will depend, more likely than not it will be a bit speedier and better on battery IMO. I have been running CM7 with the Savaged-Zen kernel and i got over a day and a half out of it, that with setcpu at 128/1113 with smartass governor.
I used to stick with Sense based ROMS because they where just so smooth and stable, but now im with AOSP ROMS like CM7 and a few others. I use launcher pro and its awesome. The customization of AOSP ROMS are pretty much endless, and they give you a cleaned up Android. Id give it a try, just make a back up of SkyRaider then download the latest CM7 RC.
@OP
I was in your shoes about a week after using the phone after I bought it.
Went AOSP and haven't gone back except for the occasional, lets see if somehow the grass somehow decided to paint itself greener and became super plants.
I recommend AOSP completely. It's alot more of a streamlined android experience, and IMO lets you really customize the OS to work for you, rather than having to work with sense.
Not saying sense is bad or anything, it's my favorite non stock rom, but AOSP is just above and beyond for me.
Although incredibly re-engineered had me off AOSP for about 3 days before switching back
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Senseless is still Sense framework, which lacks the advantages of a true AOSP ROM. The advantage to Senseless is a vanilla interface, but the stability of the Sense framework.
Thanks for the input!
Will be switching to an ASOP ROM sometime tonight.
For me unfortunately, the lack of decent widgets keeps forcing me back to the new desire z based sense roms. Too many additional features in sense. Wish there were good equivalent aosp widgets for what you can get from htc in the hd/z/mt4g/inc s roms...
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Thanks for the input!
Will be switching to an ASOP ROM sometime tonight.
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I don't know if you wanna jump in head first or not but, I'm really enjoying the new Cyanogenmod 7 RC1 right now. Another great is MIUI. They're both great on battery life and they're both highly customizable. But they are a big change from sense- especially MIUI. And, obviously, CM7 is a release candidate so it isn't perfect (although damn close.) Whether you jump on them now or later, once you've gotten your feet wet, you should check em both out some time.
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That's false. I have never gotten the battery life from an AOSP rom that I have from an optimized Sense rom. I've used almost every kernel for both types of roms. There are quite a few people that actually complain about CM battery life. As far as speed its like the butt dyno, just saying your phone feels faster is all perception. There are people that say the optimized Sense roms are the fastest and some say the AOSP are the fastest. Try what you like and use it. The real differences is in the interface. Bluetooth is definitely better supported on CM.
I found my best battery life AND speed were with Ruby ROM 2.0.2 with Launcherpro. Cyanogenmod 6 is good too but had tons of features I didn't use. Invisiblek kernels are a great addition to AOSP ROMs.
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I've been running MIUI 1.1.26 with invisablek #28 for a while now, w/o setcpu and while I wouldn't say it's the fastest combo (not that it's slow) its is the most stable my phone has been since I switched from Virtuos using stock kernel.
After setting up invisablek #28 and wiping battery stats it did take a few days of crappy battery life until it started to kick butt. I can get thru a 10 hour work day of moderate web surfing and constant music playing and still have at least 20% battery left. And if I run with the 2150mah extended battery forget about it.
I would definately recommend giving MIUI and invisablek #28 kernel a try. It has the faster charging the stock kernel has and runs smooth and stable. The launched takes a bit to get used to but you can always run launcher pro over it. Tried that but I love the MIUI launched too much.
Thats my issue with the CM line, it has tons of features I dont use (which could be flashable) and includes way too many localizations. I must admit I forgot about Ruby, it was the best in terms of speed. No lag, no hesitation, smooth as butter.
Launcher Pro doesn't extend any battery life on any ROM I have used it just a different launcher but one of the best ones I have used so far.
If you aren't attached to the Sense experience, the don't even hesitate to try out different ROMs. I gave up on Sense after a month of purchasing the Dinc, tried out CM6, tried out MIUI, and now I've been "crackflashing" CM7 since January. A lot of people are experiencing really good battery life. Can't say so for myself since the Dinc is my main computer, but I would certainly say that it is the fastest ROM I've tried.
Do a nandroid backup. Try out a bunch of new setups. Restore the nandroid if you aren't happy. Simple as that--when you're rooted you can do a lot with these devices.
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There are people that say the optimized Sense roms are the fastest and some say the AOSP are the fastest.
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I will say that CM's GPU performance is better than that of the Incredible's on 2.2. My guess is that this is due to CM's release using more recent drivers for the Adreno 200. I've tested this with both benchmarks and games.
On Sims 3, owning the largest house makes panning/zooming is a virtual crawl on stock Sense, even with a good custom kernel. On CM7, it's playable, a huge difference. Quadrant advances/profession GPU score (not the worthless combined score) is nearly 150 points different. To give a perspective, it's 280 to 410 on average, which is a huge jump.
Hi. I'm thinking about flashing my first ROM on the Droid Incredible for my wife. She is having terrible battery life with her phone, and I'd like to try and help her out. I really am not looking for much though. My order of prefs are:
Stability > Battery Life > Performance
Mods and tweaks and things of that nature are not really a huge concern for me. I just want everything to work well, and have great battery life. I'd love to hear some suggestions.
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I'm running OVORene Community ROM and my battery last all day with GPS on internet on and 5 apps syncing all day everything on. Super stable I have no problems so far no force closes. Give it a try
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But having sense 3.0 is a closer look too stock incredible and have great battery life
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Nobrainer, the newest leak 2.3.4. Its only sense 1.0, so it would be familiar to her, no lag, no issues at all, and the best battery life for me on any sense rom.
If ive helped you, please hit the damn thanks button!
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Nobrainer, the newest leak 2.3.4. Its only sense 1.0, so it would be familiar to her, no lag, no issues at all, and the best battery life for me on any sense rom.
If ive helped you, please hit the damn thanks button!
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I'd go this route or something VERY similar to it. Just don't flash the RUU. Try to find a rooted version of the ROM.
As for AOSP, I've flashed about 5 different AOSP ROMs on my dInc and none of them have been what I'd call stable and reliable. I'm NOT a fan of any of the launchers and I do NOT like having to spend days trying to dig through the Market and threads trying to find the stuff to make AOSP do most of what Sense does right out of the box. My girlfriend likes AOSP... and I just can't understand why, but I'm always messing with it trying to figure out why it's restarting, being all herky-jerky, not responding, doing weird things for no reason... And frankly, I don't think the battery life is all that much better on AOSP than Sense.
I don't know what about CM7 or MIUI isn't stable or reliable? What doesn't work on those roms that works on sense roms? IMO, sense is bloated, slow, and outside of social networking (which I couldn't care less about anyway), adds no real functionality when compared to AOSP. Also, AOSP roms are infinitely more customizable than sense. For people that like to mess with their phones and make them their own (which being XDA, I'd think a lot are in this category), there's just simply way more you can do with AOSP, and better kernels too!
Again, some of this is just my opinion, but I fail to see how our AOSP roms can be called unstable or unreliable. It all boils down to personal preference but to say that AOSP is not stable or reliable is simply not a true statement.
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I don't know what about CM7 or MIUI isn't stable or reliable? What doesn't work on those roms that works on sense roms? IMO, sense is bloated, slow, and outside of social networking (which I couldn't care less about anyway), adds no real functionality when compared to AOSP. Also, AOSP roms are infinitely more customizable than sense. For people that like to mess with their phones and make them their own (which being XDA, I'd think a lot are in this category), there's just simply way more you can do with AOSP, and better kernels too!
Again, some of this is just my opinion, but I fail to see how our AOSP roms can be called unstable or unreliable. It all boils down to personal preference but to say that AOSP is not stable or reliable is simply not a true statement.
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Going thru the miui or the cm7 nightly threads lately, it does appear that they also have their fair share of issues. The fact of the matter is, the leaked/rooted ota is very stable, very fast, and has great battery life. It also would have no learning curve for her and she could set up her screens to her liking with whats already familiar to her. Thats why i said no brainer. Aosp is nice, ive ran them all, but it really is just personal preference. Aosp battery can be just as bad if not worse than sense. I also found my self trying to make it look like sense, so now i use sense pretty much all the time. The diffrence between sense and aosp is preference and preference only.
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I definitely wouldn't hesitate to recommend the stock rom for someone that doesn't really mess with their phone that much and needs it to work without issue. I personally like to have a bit more control and feature additions. I mainly posted because it was being stated that AOSP roms were unstable and unreliable, and that's simply not the case. I have recently run CM7 nightlies and MIUI (current rom) without issue. I keep up on new features and bug fixes, and there isn't anything "buggy" about either of these roms. Pretty much the only things you're gonna be missing out on are 720p recording and tv-out functionality, but for me that tradeoff is well worth it considering the other benefits.
I can't really speak on battery life comparatively, because my phone hasn't seen a sense rom for more than a few hours since I got it, but I think the difference is mainly in the kernels. There are simply better options for AOSP (right now at least), the kernels have more battery saving features than what is available for GB sense. I see that they've gotten smartass working on the new GB sense kernel though, so I would think that would help. I imagine a lot of it also has to do with your accounts and sync settings as well, for example, I'd imagine if you had two phones (one on AOSP, one on stock sense) with the same governor settings and sync settings, battery life would be pretty similar.
I would think your probably right on that. I personally have had no issues with aosp roms or any of the new gb roms. I run basic configurations with minimal apps and minimal syncing. I only install 4 apps, so i can get a rom runnin pretty good for what i need.
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Im using the latest OMFGB nightly, no problems, no issues, everything works.
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OP you will be flooded with opinions going in all directions, it depends what you want. Pretty much any ROM here is noticeably faster than stock with better battery.
If you're looking something closer to stock, but faster and with better battery life than I would suggest Skyraider:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=1314
Agreeing with nivesout, Sense adds some bloat to your phone- but some people just like the UI and don't mind whatever minimal extra lag or battery loss they get from it.
CM7 is a great AOSP ROM and just in general one of the top choices here. If you get this then you should probably download Launcher Pro (from market) instead of using ADW, but it's up to you.
MIUI is more appearance based and offers lots of theming options, however the luancher that comes with it is not as smooth as other launchers (can always be changed like you can do with CM7)
All of these ROM's are stable and well polished.
I would also suggest that you use chad's incredikernel for a custom kernel (saves battery and increases performance) and also flash the latest radio because it's trending that most people get better battery and faster speeds with it.
It seems like people are just reading his op title. Paragraph 2 states mods and themes are not what he is looking for. Its for his wife. If you go thru the new ota threads you will find people stating excellent battery life. The ota's are debloated and can be even more reduced with ti backup. His wife will have no issues with this rom, nor will she have to search market for apps, theme section for themes, install new kernels, yada yada ya.... The leaked, debloated, pre-rooted ota is a perfect solution for what he is looking for. Op, you can pm me if you have questions about which one to install.
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Thanks to all of you who took the time to reply. I appreciate everyone's input.
@donnyp1 Thanks for your suggestion, and if you want to put your recommendation in this thread that would be great or PM works too. What you said is pretty head on, keeping it simple and similar to what she is already used to would be great. Just need to get that battery in check.
The new OTA has given me the best battery life of any ROM I've used. However, HTC's kernel dislikes my car's Bluetooth module, so I'm back on CM7 for maximum compatibility till they or a kernel dev releases one that works with my car.
My vote is on the OTA. Fast, long lasting and very stable. As a second choice I say CM7. Only thing about CM7 is that she would have to spend more time setting it up.
The sense 2.1/3.0 and 3.0 roms still have some bugs and general performance issues without no real boon to battery life. Lockscreen and quick settings sure do rock though.
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I have run all 3, and liberation beta 4 is really working well. I had no issues with any though. I used ti backup to remove the rest of the verizon stuff, it eorks fantastic. Display at 30%, i get great battery life on my phone. I also flashed the newest radio.
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Godsmacked's senseless 2.0 is a great blend of sense and aosp. Battery life is awesome, it flies, and I haven't had a single fc yet.
Maybe I'm wrong but I was always under the impression that Kernel effects battery life not ROM. I have been going between CM7 Nighties and MIUI.US, with their kernel only get 6 to 8 hours. But if I use incredikernel with incredicontrol I get between 18-27 hours depending on use. Incredicontrol enables fast charge and sound boost, also allows you to set min and max volts. I'm undervolted min 750 and stable with CM7 Nightly 173. I loved Nils' Business GingerSense 3.0 but I personally decided I can't live without incredikernel, so I will wait until he releases a gingersense kernel.
http://www.incredikernel.com/
I have not tried but there are mod's for Gingersense for better battery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216306
For choices on ROM's best to go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
I've been running MIUI for about a week now and I can't believe how great the battery life has been.
I personally have been using gingerbread-inc-deck with chads incredikernel as my daily for over a month now. It's stable and I've had great battery life. I've tested a few sense 3.0 roms, but the battery just doesnt seem to last as long for me.