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I am using the newest amon recovery. Everytime i try to restore a nandroid i save it gives me bootloops. I normally wipe everything twice and flash caulks format all zip. Is there something im doing wrong?
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i would love to have this answer also...was getting the same thing happening to me, sumtimes bootloop off a hot restart...various roms, mysn, mik, virus, miui, didnt really matter which i was coming from or going too...
have since unrooted my phone and rerooted it just to see if sumthing was off...so far so good...would still like to have answers as to why though.
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Same here i rerooted and then reooted back and i still get the same result. Wonder if i am supposed flash the rom, then restore? On my hero i never had issues.
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Is your usb plugged in while either backing up or restoring? Have you tried loading a different version of amon?
U need to flash a kernel, nandroid dont save that
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so your are saying flash the kernal first then restore nandroid restore?
Okay I just tried what you said and I still got bootloops. And my USB is never plugged in when i do a nandroid.
Something in the backup is giving you bootloops. Try completely wiping, the flashing a new rom.
You can review the recovery log too.
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U need to flash a kernel, nandroid dont save that
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Yes it does. Likely the issue is that a wipe is not being performed before restoring the data in the nandroid.
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Garbage in, garbage out.
If your device was unstable when you backed it up, it will continue to be so after you restore.
Try a different Sd card. If your device continues to be unholy, revert back to a stock based rom or even RUU. If your issues persist, you likely have a hardware fault.
Basic troubleshooting 101...
Nandroids dont replace the kernel, do the nand then flash the kernel
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i really need sum help...have posted here once before on this issue...i just flashed mik4.5 last nite...made a backup this am...flashed sum mods and made another nand backup this afternoon...needed a text message off the first nand backup so i wiped everything and started the nand restore...installed just fine and started to boot up just fine untill the boot animation stopped...then it started bootlooping...wth man...i have had my evo since it came out and been using amon ra since i started this adventure we call rooting...never have i had so many things go wrong with nand restore or backups...9 out of 10 backups i have made since 1.8 has become obsolete has not worked...please help...ty
Man I'm having bootloops all the time now ever since i updated the new combo radios and flashed myn RLS5. On sense with rls5 my phone reboots a lot kinda and with AOSP roms like MIUI my phone reboots like every 24 hours and goes on a bootloop. I can't figure out what's going on. Tried messaging some devs but they don't answer me
Did u run Calkulins Format All.zip?
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LuvThyMetal said:
Man I'm having bootloops all the time now ever since i updated the new combo radios and flashed myn RLS5. On sense with rls5 my phone reboots a lot kinda and with AOSP roms like MIUI my phone reboots like every 24 hours and goes on a bootloop. I can't figure out what's going on. Tried messaging some devs but they don't answer me
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When you switched roms, did you do a format data/calkulin's format all? doing either or should fix your bootlooping problem.
I always use caulkins format all. Still get bootloops. Wipe everything, still get bootloops. I dont know what to somwtumes except star all over from scratch.
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I always use caulkins format all. Still get bootloops. Wipe everything, still get bootloops. I dont know what to somwtumes except star all over from scratch.
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Same here bro. I've tried 3 different roms this weekend thinking it was just miui causing the problem but I actually got bootloops on all of them . This is weird
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"Wipe everything", is that a factory restore/reset?
Cause that's what I do (factory reset).
Then the nand restore............
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I always use caulkins format all. Still get bootloops. Wipe everything, still get bootloops. I dont know what to somwtumes except star all over from scratch.
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Are you flashing kernels over that?
I created a backup using CWM 3.1.0.1 (from rooted EC05). I then flashed one of the new roms, and today wanted to go back, so i booted into 3.1.0.1 and did the restore (from cw). Now the phone boots up to the Samsung screen and sits there. What am I doing wrong? Sorry if this has already been asked, I did a search but couldn't find this particular issue. Thanks for any and all help.
both backups were made using 3.1.0.1? and were both made in 3finger recovery? and when you restored you were in 3 finger recovery, not reboot recovery?
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both backups were made using 3.1.0.1? and were both made in 3finger recovery? and when you restored you were in 3 finger recovery, not reboot recovery?
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I only did 1 backup, not sure what you mean by 3 finger recovery? I booted in CWM (purple) and did the back-up. I then put on the "Bamboozle" rom (and yes, I wiped everything 3x like qb shows in the vid) then installed the rom. I ran it for the past week (loved the rom, but it was eating my battery really bad) so wanted to try a different rom. I thought the easiest way to start was to restore the backup I made, so I booted back into cwm and selected Backup/Restore, Restore, Yes and it ran and said it restored fine. I reboot, but all I get to now is the Samsung screen, no further.
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I only did 1 backup, not sure what you mean by 3 finger recovery? I booted in CWM (purple) and did the back-up. I then put on the "Bamboozle" rom (and yes, I wiped everything 3x like qb shows in the vid) then installed the rom. I ran it for the past week (loved the rom, but it was eating my battery really bad) so wanted to try a different rom. I thought the easiest way to start was to restore the backup I made, so I booted back into cwm and selected Backup/Restore, Restore, Yes and it ran and said it restored fine. I reboot, but all I get to now is the Samsung screen, no further.
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Let me just say, I think I f'ked my phone up. So I gave up trying to restore, just odin'd back to stock (ec 05). Which I then re-rooted and re-installed CWM 3.1.0.1 (I have titanium backups as well). However, now the phone runs really, really slow and when I try to restore apps from titanium it just sits there (in batch mode). Sorry, for being a noob; hey, if nothing else, maybe I'm making someone smile at my dumb a$$. But now, if I can be even more stupid, is there a way to just "reset" the phone, by that I mean put it back to a "true stock" form so I can start over? And then, can I just delete these backups, and roms from the sd card (just hookup to laptop and delete from the sd-card)? I think maybe it'd be easier to just start from scratch again...thanks for the help, I try to keep up with the forums, but so many posts....
What he means by 3 finger is the ONLY way to get into recovery for proper operation. With power off press and hold camera, volume down, and power. Holding all 3 until you see the recovery menu. If you use any other method such as ROM Manager or Quick Boot you will more than likely screw up your phone. Neither application is recommended for recovery operations.
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I believe clockwork does not backup the kernel. You may need to install a kernel.
Just a thought...
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I created a backup using CWM 3.1.0.1 (from rooted EC05). I then flashed one of the new roms, and today wanted to go back, so i booted into 3.1.0.1 and did the restore (from cw). Now the phone boots up to the Samsung screen and sits there. What am I doing wrong? Sorry if this has already been asked, I did a search but couldn't find this particular issue. Thanks for any and all help.
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If you backed up on ec05 and installed a gingerbread rom you need to odin back to ec05 and then do the restore. It won't work if you are on different os versions. At least it never has for me.
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If you backed up on ec05 and installed a gingerbread rom you need to odin back to ec05 and then do the restore. It won't work if you are on different os versions. At least it never has for me.
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Thanks, that must have been it. I was on Bamboozle, which is based on Gingerbread.
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Thanks, that must have been it. I was on Bamboozle, which is based on Gingerbread.
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Wait, did you wipe data/system,cache, and Dalvik Cache then restore your nandroid? I have a SRF 1.2, an Urban Regeneration, and a CM7 nandroid. As long as I wipe everything then restore I have no problems. I have bounced between all three today with no issues
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Wait, did you wipe data/system,cache, and Dalvik Cache then restore your nandroid? I have a SRF 1.2, an Urban Regeneration, and a CM7 nandroid. As long as I wipe everything then restore I have no problems. I have bounced between all three today with no issues
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Yeah, the issue was I was running bamboozle (GB leaked rom), so once I odin'd back to EC05, I was able to run the restore without problem. I am now running SRF 1.2 (awesome rom btw) and I was able to restore when trying to install that rom (and the genocide kernel). Thanks for all the helpful answers.
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If you backed up on ec05 and installed a gingerbread rom you need to odin back to ec05 and then do the restore. It won't work if you are on different os versions. At least it never has for me.
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I would have thought the same thing. However, I simply restored my SFR 1.2 nandroid right over the gingerbread rom. With a few glitches smoothed out I am running fine again with no Odin involved.
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I would have thought the same thing. However, I simply restored my SFR 1.2 nandroid right over the gingerbread rom. With a few glitches smoothed out I am running fine again with no Odin involved.
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Yeah, I have gotten the dreaded Google Services Framework FC's a couple of times but for the most part I can wipe everything and restore a Froyo setup even when on a Gingerbread ROM. The purp recovery is good like that.
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Yeah, I have gotten the dreaded Google Services Framework FC's a couple of times but for the most part I can wipe everything and restore a Froyo setup even when on a Gingerbread ROM. The purp recovery is good like that.
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Thanks for the info. I will have to remember that and try it out in the future.
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Thanks for the info. I will have to remember that and try it out in the future.
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Hey, no problem crawrj. It definately comes in handy with all of the testing I do for sure.
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When restoring across different OS versions it is handy to do a Restore>Advanced Restore Data from the Nand backup. There may be the occasional FC if the data format has changed but that usually can be fixed by clearing data of the offending app, especially for Google sevice framework.
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When restoring across different OS versions it is handy to do a Restore>Advanced Restore Data from the Nand backup. There may be the occasional FC if the data format has changed but that usually can be fixed by clearing data of the offending app, especially for Google sevice framework.
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Kenny - I did try that as well. I tried everything, I did the "Restore" option like 4 separate times, I wiped data, cache, dalvik cache 3 x, even did the Advanced option and went down the list. None of that helped. Now it may be that I just didn't wait long enough, but I figured 4-6 minutes of the "Samsung" screen meant it had stopped responding (I see that all that time in MS apps). I finally odin'd back to stock ec05, re-rooted (and updated back to cwm 3.1.0.1), then I ran the restore (not advanced), and it worked like a charm. Thanks for all the suggestions on this.
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Kenny - I did try that as well. I tried everything, I did the "Restore" option like 4 separate times, I wiped data, cache, dalvik cache 3 x, even did the Advanced option and went down the list. None of that helped. Now it may be that I just didn't wait long enough, but I figured 4-6 minutes of the "Samsung" screen meant it had stopped responding (I see that all that time in MS apps). I finally odin'd back to stock ec05, re-rooted (and updated back to cwm 3.1.0.1), then I ran the restore (not advanced), and it worked like a charm. Thanks for all the suggestions on this.
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Sometimes our phones can be so finicky. Glad you got it working. Usually when Dalvik is rebuilding it takes awhile at the S screen, so you are correct that 4-6 minutes at Samsung is a cry for help from your phone.
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If you backed up on ec05 and installed a gingerbread rom you need to odin back to ec05 and then do the restore. It won't work if you are on different os versions. At least it never has for me.
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Not true. I always go from froyo to gingerbread with backups. What he Did wrong was not wipe when he tried to restore his back up that's why he got stuck on the Sammy screen. Also if he tried to restore a rfs froyo rom it could've gotten stuck there also since bammbozle was ext4.
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Not true. I always go from froyo to gingerbread with backups. What he Did wrong was not wipe when he tried to restore his back up that's why he got stuck on the Sammy screen. Also if he tried to restore a rfs froyo rom it could've gotten stuck there also since bammbozle was ext4.
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You can restore from EXT4 to RFS with advanced restore data nand. He said he tried all of this and still got stuck. But I think you are correct and the first restore attempt borked everything. From there a reflash then advanced restore data should have worked.
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You can restore from EXT4 to RFS with advanced restore data nand. He said he tried all of this and still got stuck. But I think you are correct and the first restore attempt borked everything. From there a reflash then advanced restore data should have worked.
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So if I understand what you guys said, I should have wiped first (before the initial restore), which I didn't do. When the first restore didn't work, then I did the wipe x3, but it sounds like by that point it was already too late. So should you always wipe before restoring? I only ask, because once I got everything back to a good place I flashed the sfr 1.2. The first attempt caused the phone to boot up with that annoying "Android" screen, so I just booted into CWM and restored. That time I just restored (no wipes, no advanced) and it restored fine. I then re-flashed and all was good. So it seems like you don't always have to wipe x3 before restoring? Thanks btw, all good info for future ref.
Hey all,
A few months back I updated (through odin) to EF02 rooted and haven't been tampering or updating since. This past week I've had some extra time so I've been going through my normal routine of backing up through clockworkmod and titanium etc. However, when I reboot into cwm recovery I get an error saying it has aborted and only four options (I think they are reboot, wipe, update, and dalvik cache) come up.
To add to my problems, when I open the ROM Manager app, I only have the option to update to cwm for the I9000 (obviously I have an epic).
Any solutions? I would prefer not to odin because I cannot back anything up yet and I have things that I need to save.
Thanks!
Have you tried reflashing CWM 3.1.0.1 or Odining it in?
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Have you tried reflashing CWM 3.1.0.1 or Odining it in?
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This. Odin CWM recovery and don't use rom manager, at all our phone isn't supported yet.
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Got it to work. Thanks guys!
I am new to rooting the Epic 4g, but not new to rooting in general. I had an HTC Hero (cdma) and am now on the Evo 4g. I understand all the terminology associated with rooting/flashing, etc, however, the Epic is a little different. I just rooted my wife's ECO5 Epic using the most recent One-Click method and everything worked great. The first thing I did was make a backup. I would like to flash Syndicate Frozen 1.2 but am a little confused on this whole files system jargon as it isn't existent or an option on the EVO. My questions are as follows: If I flash Syndicate Rom 1.2 and the Genocide kernel, I understand that it will convert my files system to Ext4 automatically, but if for some reason I don't like it, can I simply recover my backup in CWM and go back to stock? Or do I need to ODIN back to stock and reset up my whole system as I had it prior? I see that the One-Click 3.1.0.1 method I used has dual file system support. What does that all impact? Just new roms or my current ROM. I have done a bunch of research but haven't been comfortable in my findings enough to start flashing. Can someone please clarify this for me?
I believe there are scripts available to convert between the two file systems, in both directions.
That said, EXT4 is the way to go imo. Don't be shy about it. Sfr 1.2 is top rom in my book. Do take the time to go get the other goodies as well. Hotspot hack, and the supercharger script. It's all amazing when it comes together.
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Clockworkmod 3.1.0.1 does not restore filesystem type (ext4, rfs). You can either odin back to rfs or flash a .zip in Clockworkmod. Also, if you have access to odin, there is NO WAY you can brick your phone. It will ALWAYS be recoverable.
(unless you intentionally brick it, there are ways)
So just to clarify, I must ODIN back to stock and thenin recover my backup, which is just stock? Or, can my stock backup run on Ext4?
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So just to clarify, I must ODIN back to stock and thenin recover my backup, which is just stock? Or, can my stock backup run on Ext4?
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Best to restore first and do the conversion, but there is no reason you can't restore after. Although I usually do advanced restore data between file systems myself.
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Will the completely stock rooted rom run on ext4? Or is my backup useless unless I convert back to rfs file system?
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Will the completely stock rooted rom run on ext4? Or is my backup useless unless I convert back to rfs file system?
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If I remember right, stock runs on ext4. As long as you have a different kernel. Stock kernel does NOT run on ext4.
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Will the completely stock rooted rom run on ext4? Or is my backup useless unless I convert back to rfs file system?
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That is 2 different questions. One no stock kernel is RFS. Two, restore as I mentioned before, advanced restore data only and you will be fine. You may have to set up your accounts but that is about it.
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I think i need to ask the question differently. Right now, all that I have done since getting her the phone is complete the One-click root 3.1.0.1. I then made a backup. I haven't done anything else or made any changes. If I now flash Syndicate 1.2 frozen but want to return to my backup, are you suggesting I don't need to ODIN back to stock, but simply advance restore in recovery? Sorry for being an idiot about this guys, but like I said, I am an Evo flashaholic and its taking me some getting used to speaking Epic language! Plus, I would hate to flub something up since its my wife's phone!
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I think what I am looking for is step by step what is the shortest easiest way to "undo" a new rom flash and go back to exactly the way it was before. On the Evo, a nandroid backup is gold and does just this, but I am finding that on the Epic this isn't as simple
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I would not start with SRF 1.2. Because you also need to flash a kernel. Start by flashing a ROM that comes with a kernel. If it is for someone else keep it simple like ReRFS ROM. I would not even do EXT4 unless you are sure you have journaling enabled. The first freeze, drop or battery pull will cause Force Closes galore. Unless you are planning on supporting that phone constantly, keep it simple. And yes most times restore works fine without goling back to Odin.
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I think what I am looking for is step by step what is the shortest easiest way to "undo" a new rom flash and go back to exactly the way it was before. On the Evo, a nandroid backup is gold and does just this, but I am finding that on the Epic this isn't as simple
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90% of the time it will restore just fine.
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Yes, I agree, but "if" I flash an ext4 rom/kernel and then try to recover my stock rooted backup from cwm, will it work since stock is rfs?
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Yes, I agree, but "if" I flash an ext4 rom/kernel and then try to recover my stock rooted backup from cwm, will it work since stock is rfs?
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Nand doesn't care what the file system is so yes. The issue you may run into is incompatibilties between ROMs and data. So go ahead. I run both nands and Titanium backup just in case of an incompatibility so I can go between froyo and GB.
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Nand doesn't care what the file system is so yes. The issue you may run into is incompatibilties between ROMs and data. So go ahead. I run both nands and Titanium backup just in case of an incompatibility so I can go between froyo and GB.
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The answer is no. Complete stock kernel doesn't support ext4. He would have to flash genocide or twilight kernel.
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The answer is no. Complete stock kernel doesn't support ext4. He would have to flash genocide or twilight kernel.
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Doesn't matter if he did an advanced data restore. It does not restore the kernel.
Also I am not sure it restores the kernel on a full nand restore. Did one recently and none of the kernel mods restored. Had to reflash my kernel. I thought 3.1.0.1 was supposed to backup and restore the kernel.
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Doesn't matter if he did an advanced data restore. It does not restore the kernel.
Also I am not sure it restores the kernel on a full nand restore. Did one recently and none of the kernel mods restored. Had to reflash my kernel. I thought 3.1.0.1 was supposed to backup and restore the kernel.
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That doesn't make sense, if it didn't restore kernel, then how can some people nandroid between cm7 and eh17 every so often? And yeah, but I think he was talking about restoring the ROM, not his data. I could be wrong.
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That doesn't make sense, if it didn't restore kernel, then how can some people nandroid between cm7 and eh17 every so often? And yeah, but I think he was talking about restoring the ROM, not his data. I could be wrong.
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I am confused as to what the OP wants then. I thought he wanted to flash a ROM and if he didn't like it restore back.
As for CM7 to EH17 and back, simply flash and advance restore data or use Titanium Backup. I backed up Hurricane after flashing a new kernel and adding some mods. Upon restore later the first thing I noticed was the mods missing. This is with 3.1.0.1 Odin'd in. Had Bonsai recovery which does back up kernel image as well but would not flash other EH17 Roms for some reason.
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I am confused as to what the OP wants then. I thought he wanted to flash a ROM and if he didn't like it restore back.
As for CM7 to EH17 and back, simply flash and advance restore data or use Titanium Backup. I backed up Hurricane after flashing a new kernel and adding some mods. Upon restore later the first thing I noticed was the mods missing. This is with 3.1.0.1 Odin'd in. Had Bonsai recovery which does back up kernel image as well but would not flash other EH17 Roms for some reason.
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I'm confused. The op wanted his phone to be " if for some reason I don't like it, can I simply recover my backup in CWM and go back to stock" which I assume is complete stock, which means the ROM and not his data.
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I'm confused. The op wanted his phone to be " if for some reason I don't like it, can I simply recover my backup in CWM and go back to stock" which I assume is complete stock, which means the ROM and not his data.
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He further confused me later on but going by the OP, then you are right and the best bet at that point is to Odin a prerooted stock ROM like EC05plus to save a step and then restore everything if he didn't like SRF 1.2 and Genocide.
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I'm new to Samsung Android phones, and new to the E4GT, so I need a little help.
I always flash the zip for the EL26 CWM5 recovery like instructed, soooo, here is my issue.
I'm running AOSP and thought I would try CM10 JB, soooo, I flashed into EL26, performed a full nandroid to my Ext SD. I flashed JB and gave it a shot. For issues known to all, I wanted to switch back
So, I went into recovery, flashed the EL26 recovery and rebooted recovery, I then restore the nandroid backup I just made, rebooted, went to the Samsung screen (with the yellow !). After some time, about 20-30 seconds, it goes to a black screen indefinately until I pull the battery.
Any ideas? I have yet to get a nandroid to work on this device. Had no issues at all on my 3D. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong.
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You need to flash the AOSP kernel. Well first can you boot into recovery or download mode
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You need to flash the AOSP kernel. Well first can you boot into recovery or download mode
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Yeah I can get into recovery fine, so I flashed an AOSP kernel and then my wifi didn't work.
Is it not connecting?
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Is it not connecting?
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Nope, won't even turn on. But if I do a full clean flash of the exact ROM, it works fine.
I'm by far no expert but I'd say the kernel is being replaced by the gb recovery kernel when you flash back for your safe recovery.I personally keep a couple various recoveries so I can nandroid backup on the kernel native to the Rom and then the backup will contain the proper kernel.I think I got that right.so....nandroid b4 recovery has been my habit.
Had this issue before, minus the yellow triangle....anytime you're on an aosp rom and do a nand via el26, the nand stores the last kernel used (which is GB el26). After you restore, wipe cache and dalvik and then flash an aosp kernel, probly one from chris41g. Reboot and should he good to go.
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dante32278 said:
Had this issue before, minus the yellow triangle....anytime you're on an aosp rom and do a nand via el26, the nand stores the last kernel used (which is GB el26). After you restore, wipe cache and dalvik and then flash an aosp kernel, probly one from chris41g. Reboot and should he good to go.
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Right, I tried that with my AOKP backup, I was able to boot. But then my WiFi wasn't working because of something to do with the Kernel I'm assuming