[Q] True Caller ID on Android? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is there a true caller ID app? one that show's who is calling if the person is not in your contacts? Like the old land lines used to show if you had caller ID service.

There's a few in the market like white pages, Mr numbers, etc. Just search caller id. There won't be any free ones (that I know of) so be ready to pay a little bit of money for true caller id services.

I also think such an app would only work while you're on 4G or WiFi. I believe they basically do a quick search on the net, and if you're not connected to 4G or WiFi, you don't have a data connection while your phone is ringing.
I've never understood why the name feature of landline caller ID wasn't carried over to cell phones.

bkrodgers said:
I also think such an app would only work while you're on 4G or WiFi. I believe they basically do a quick search on the net, and if you're not connected to 4G or WiFi, you don't have a data connection while your phone is ringing.
I've never understood why the name feature of landline caller ID wasn't carried over to cell phones.
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I always thought I had it before I started using smartphones. Maybe not... hmm

Stuke00 said:
Is there a true caller ID app? one that show's who is calling if the person is not in your contacts? Like the old land lines used to show if you had caller ID service.
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you should try TrueCaller. Get the apk file by visiting truecaller.com from your phone´s browser

Try "death to unknown callers" by addafix in the market, its free and will automatically search the white and yellow pages to display listed numbers when they call. It also offers a feature to block certain numbers. Great app, works great for my EVO (rooted) but not on my fiancees EVO (uprooted). But it doesn't need superuser permissions so I'm not sure why it doesn't work for her.
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After installing it ask ur permission for all ur contacts
& that way you are sending updateing all the people
in ur contacts to there site
Thats why its not legal on Google market i guess

ilordvader said:
After installing it ask ur permission for all ur contacts
& that way you are sending updateing all the people
in ur contacts to there site
Thats why its not legal on Google market i guess
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ARe you sure about that? Is not possible to just say "no" to this automatic upload of your contacts?

Night on the web said:
ARe you sure about that? Is not possible to just say "no" to this automatic upload of your contacts?
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i could not find that option

ilordvader said:
i could not find that option
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Thanks for your feedback about this. For now, i have decide not to install TrueCaller. Instead i have installed WhosCall, which is available directly from google play.

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Answering Machine

Do someboby have an Answering Machine for android???
your provider doesn't provide voice-mail for you?? How do you expect some Ansering machine to work if your device is off or in flightmode??
LumeriA said:
your provider doesn't provide voice-mail for you?? How do you expect some Ansering machine to work if your device is off or in flightmode??
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Providers charge for that service and many people want it done on their phone. I am looking for that kind of app too.
Assuming your phone will accept the call, I guess you can use "Tasker" to do just about anything, eg, answer the call, initiate media file (your message), hang-up.
Reuvenm said:
Assuming your phone will accept the call, I guess you can use "Tasker" to do just about anything, eg, answer the call, initiate media file (your message), hang-up.
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Good to know that tasker can do this but it will only play a media file of my voice record I am looking for a dedicated app which works as answering machine & then let the "unknown" caller record a message which is stored on my phone.
Basically I get to many spam calls which if I block using the white list, it also blocks genuine calls from those who may want to contact me but are not in my contact list, answering machine will allow to leave them a 1 min message so I can get back to those people.
Anybody knows if such apps exist?
Have you tried Google voice? It has a voicemail service and I think you can apply it to any number
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What do you like/dislike about Google Voice?

I have already switched to G-Voice as my voice mail provider, but I was wondering what else is good about it? I love the text transcript of voice mails, but I do not know much about this program.
Why would you want to create a Google number? What are the perks?
What are some things that are not commonly known about it? Tricks? I have a feeling there are a bunch of things I do not know about it because I have not had enough time to really get into it.
Basically a standard number, you can use it to make long distance calls, at a low rate, can even send texts.
teh roxxorz said:
Basically a standard number, you can use it to make long distance calls, at a low rate, can even send texts.
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If I am never anywhere near my minute allowance, there really is no benefit for me?
lehalter said:
If I am never anywhere near my minute allowance, there really is no benefit for me?
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Not so much, but you can use it to send texts, and long distance calls. If you go in the settings you can configure it. Also, if you sign out on that phone, you can use it on another phone and keep your messages, I find it to be nice.
First, a word of warning. When you use Google Voice to make outgoing calls, it is considered a call to a landline. So you are eating your Anytime minutes when using this. So the unlimited mobile to mobile on any carrier option does not apply. Keep that in mind. Someone on these forums ended up with a $5000 bill. lol Luckily they got it reversed.
#1 Block callers
#2 Ring all numbers you designate
#3 Calls can come through Google Chat/Gmail
#4 Can give your GV number to people you don't like.
#5 Voicemail screening. You can screen people leaving a voicemail and decide to answer as they are leaving the message or just have it go through to voicemail. Although almost all my friends just hang up and decide to just blow my phone up instead -.-
#6 Listen to your VM on any computer with internet access.
Couple of things:
1) Free text messaging through GV. You get texts in the GV app on your EVO, through google.com/voice, and you can get them through the GV app on other devices.
2) Cheap international calling.
3) One phone number for multiple phones. I have GV set up so it can ring my work phone, cellphone, SIP number, Gmail chat widget, and home phone simultaneously, or on a schedule.
4) Don't need cell service to text, call, or get voicemails. This is extremely useful if you have a WiFi-only tablet or device, such as the upcoming WiFi Xoom. Also, if I'm in an area of the building at work where there's crap service, I can just turn on WiFi, connect, and get my texts through there, and use SIP to make/receive calls.
5) Everything is saved online. Texts, voicemails, and call logs are all on google.com/voice so if I switch ROMs or whatever, I don't have to worry about saving my texts, voicemails, call log, contacts, emails, apps... You get the point.
Basically, Google Voice + Google Sync + Gingerbread/Froyo = 100% backed up to the cloud. I honestly only keep Titanium Backup on my phone for restoring apps that aren't in the Market, convenience (decrypting and unpacking some gzip'd tars is a LOT faster than downloading via 3G), and I have a few apps I'd rather not lose the data for (Google Authenticator, Angry Bids, Launcher Pro, etc.).
6) Customized voicemails (my mom was amazed when I had separate voicemail messages for her, my stepdad, the house number, my boss, etc.)
7) Call screening (Really nifty for those folks who block their phone number, 800 numbers, etc)
8) Free visual voicemail!
I got nailed using using one of the Google Voice callback free. Yes it eats minutes, but if you notice it is made by Xinlu and is not really google (same icon). This ap should be removed from the market and banned since it is not free. I have no idea how it can get 5 stars the rating on this is jacked. I have been tethering via usb and calling via ata ever since.
If you use GV via bowser it should be OK. I have not tried the real Google voice app. What is weird is that I posted a few threads on the google voice help and nevr really got a good answer. I am not sure if anybody realizes that there is a bastard GV out there.
conductive said:
I got nailed using using one of the Google Voice callback free. Yes it eats minutes, but if you notice it is made by Xinlu and is not really google (same icon). This ap should be removed from the market and banned since it is not free. I have no idea how it can get 5 stars the rating on this is jacked. I have been tethering via usb and calling via ata ever since.
If you use GV via bowser it should be OK. I have not tried the real Google voice app. What is weird is that I posted a few threads on the google voice help and nevr really got a good answer. I am not sure if anybody realizes that there is a bastard GV out there.
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It is free under the following conditions:
1) You use it to call your SIP number that has unlimited free incoming calls (such as Sipgate).
2) You have unlimited calling to/from specified numbers (Such as Sprint's call-home or w/e, T-Mobile/Verizon/whatever's MyFaves, My Five, etc.
Also, from the app's description in the Market:
Google Voice Callback can be combined with Gizmo5/Sipdroid/Fring/Sipgate or other VOIP solutions to make free calls over wifi or 3G.
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Perhaps you should read more closely, neh?
Press 4 at any time to start recording the conversation
flying_low said:
Press 4 at any time to start recording the conversation
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Is that true?
swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
Perhaps you should read more closely, neh?
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Maybe you should not beleive everything you read there Gizmo.
And then what sip to sip to sip Haha ha
Better yet lets try it with 3G good one.
You ever try to sip anything there Gizmo
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Is that true?
swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
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Have not used it but it's in the tips section
One thing is for sure is that you usually thank somebody and not flame them when they look out for somebody so they do not get burned. Senior members without a clue should also give thanks when a noob has to straighten them out and also apologize for being a flamer so we can get back on the question at hand
Thanks for all of this guys. I was already using it, but know about these other things is cool.
I love Google but had nothing but problems with voice....half the time or more it would say # disconnected and a host of other problems......shy away from voice in my opinion
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I love everything about GV except for the lack of MMS
I think somebody thanked me but it is now gone. Thanks if you did.
Number porting
Vanity Numbers
Blacklisting .
Gizmo was awesome but it is now gone I hope it comes back.
I used many of these apps and there is a lot to go over here so send a thanks or other if you are interested. I just do not feel like adding any technical information since I got flamed. I can also tell you that I gave a thanks to the member that informed you guys about how it can eat minutes and I hope that you did the same. Personally I would stay away from the bogus market app that is not made by gogle. It used to be called GV free dial.

For anyone wanting to use Google Voice, this is for you

This is for anyone wanting to use Google Voice as their talking system, but didn't like to because it wasn't a VoIP service. The name of the app is GrooVe IP (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gvoip&hl=en). Instead of calling your phone number, according to the instructions, since it's calling your google chat identity, it's free AND it works over wifi! I'm sure others, like myself, who have ****ty reception on the Incredible 2 but love the phone and want to use it like an actual phone, would love to know about this app.
I second this. Also by using this method, you aren't using any of your minutes in your plan.
Too bad that it can't do VoIP for incoming calls& texts.
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deaffob said:
I second this. Also by using this method, you aren't using any of your minutes in your plan.
Too bad that it can't do VoIP for incoming calls& texts.
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I'm using this for incoming calls, as well as outgoing. I have -105dbm and my calls are all choppy and often drop while I'm home. This app is different than using google voice. What happens is that everything is routed through google chat and then sent over SIP. I've pulled the back off my phone and made my phone completely lose service and then I made a call using the app and it was 100% over wifi. I then had someone call me, while the back of my phone was still off, to see if I could also receive calls over wifi and it worked. As far as texts goes, I just use the standard google voice app for texting. Too bad there isn't a way to get texts to forward to a certain number lol
How is this different from turning on the option in google voice app? I been using Gvoice since I got my phone and I have it prompt me to use it or my verizon service to call on each call. I also give the Gvoice number out as mine since it works over the data network or wifi? Can someone explain the major differences?
digitalsynner85 said:
I'm using this for incoming calls, as well as outgoing. I have -105dbm and my calls are all choppy and often drop while I'm home. This app is different than using google voice. What happens is that everything is routed through google chat and then sent over SIP. I've pulled the back off my phone and made my phone completely lose service and then I made a call using the app and it was 100% over wifi. I then had someone call me, while the back of my phone was still off, to see if I could also receive calls over wifi and it worked. As far as texts goes, I just use the standard google voice app for texting. Too bad there isn't a way to get texts to forward to a certain number lol
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Actually, when you make a call through this app, you are indeed using voip but when someone calls you, there is no way that the app can do anything because google voice can only reroute the call to your phone number. There is no such thing as voip incoming calls with google voice
Fusion.Coil said:
How is this different from turning on the option in google voice app? I been using Gvoice since I got my phone and I have it prompt me to use it or my verizon service to call on each call. I also give the Gvoice number out as mine since it works over the data network or wifi? Can someone explain the major differences?
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This isn't about using google voice or not. It is about google voice over voip, not over your mobile provider's network. Let's say you are at a underground 5 floors below. You will not be able to make any calls with the regular GV app because the app only uses the provider's network and no, it doesn't use your provider's mobile data. What it does is it calls GV server and the server re-calls to your target. You do not see this on your phone because GV app changes the number for you but the real number it's calling is something very different. Something like this 219827419875018725101250.
Anyway, with this app, you can make calls over the internet, hence the name Voice Over Internet Protocol, voip. Also since you are using your data instead of your precious minutes, you can opt for the lower minutes plan.
Right, and from my understanding, when you use just regular google voice, you're still using your minutes. I still get disconnected from calls because I have horrible reception and service out here, but using the GrooVe IP app, I'm able to pull my back off and make it say I'm completely out of service and I can make a call using the wifi.
As far as what you stated about routing it to your phone number deaf, the app tells you to deselect your phone number and to select your google chat identity which is supposed to solve the issue of it dialing through to your phone when you receive a call. It just forwards it to the google chat and the app is sort of like a mediator between google chat and your phone, and the internet recognizes it as a google chat session. At least that's the way I understood it. I'm probably completely wrong because I'm just getting this app, but I'm doing more research. I thought it went through SIP because there are options in the troubleshooting thing in the app to override the STUN server which is based off of a sipgate address.
Edit: I was just thinking of this. You said it's not working right or w/e for when incoming calls come in. Have you completely logged out of google chat online and on your phone? If you're logged into GC from anything else other than the app, it will inadvertently try to call that device. So let's say your PC is logged into GC. I call your number and the app tries to forward it to the account, but GC picks up the call before your phone can and interferes with how the app is supposed to work.
You CAN make and RECEIVE calls with this app. All you have to do is setup a google voice phone number. Then from the google voice website, you route all incoming calls to go to your google chat, not your cell phone number. Then call your google voice number and it will ring on your phone through grooveip.
For all you guys using this, what settings have you used with this app? I found that I get choppy or laggy voice that makes this app difficult to use. I think it has to do in part to how our phone manages wifi power and sleep. Any tips or tweaks that you guys have found to work best?
@ digital You were right. I didn't know that I had to check that option which it reroutes to gmail chat. I however checked both phone and Gchat so I don't know if I'd be getting both at the same time or not. :X
deaffob said:
Anyway, with this app, you can make calls over the internet, hence the name Voice Over Internet Protocol, voip. Also since you are using your data instead of your precious minutes, you can opt for the lower minutes plan.
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Sooooo, google voice does not use wifi? I am still confused.
Lagos3sgte said:
You CAN make and RECEIVE calls with this app. All you have to do is setup a google voice phone number. Then from the google voice website, you route all incoming calls to go to your google chat, not your cell phone number. Then call your google voice number and it will ring on your phone through grooveip.
For all you guys using this, what settings have you used with this app? I found that I get choppy or laggy voice that makes this app difficult to use. I think it has to do in part to how our phone manages wifi power and sleep. Any tips or tweaks that you guys have found to work best?
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Go into your troubleshooting and check off to always keep your screen on. If your screen turns off, it messes with the audio for some reason. As soon as I make a call, I quickly hit my power button twice so that it goes to the lockscreen so that I don't have to worry about accidentally dialing someone else or starting an app
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@ digital You were right. I didn't know that I had to check that option which it reroutes to gmail chat. I however checked both phone and Gchat so I don't know if I'd be getting both at the same time or not. :X
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lol, no problem man. I was thinking of doing that but was afraid what you were experiencing would happen to me. Glad to have helped you out buddy.
Fusion.Coil said:
Sooooo, google voice does not use wifi? I am still confused.
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The standard Google Voice by itself does not. What it does is just act as a go-between for your number and your GV number. Essentially all it is, is just a dummy number that people can use to call you without actually calling your actual phone number. Using this app I suggested, the number being called when someone calls your GV number is actually being caught by Google Chat and this program is the mediator between your phone and GC, thus meaning that you're using 100% data and nothing else.
Sorry for the triple post, lol. I just figured out how to use multi-quote the right way haha. I've been using these boards for almost a month now and I JUST now figured it out.
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The standard Google Voice by itself does not. What it does is just act as a go-between for your number and your GV number. Essentially all it is, is just a dummy number that people can use to call you without actually calling your actual phone number. Using this app I suggested, the number being called when someone calls your GV number is actually being caught by Google Chat and this program is the mediator between your phone and GC, thus meaning that you're using 100% data and nothing else.
Sorry for the triple post, lol. I just figured out how to use multi-quote the right way haha. I've been using these boards for almost a month now and I JUST now figured it out.
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I get it now... Thanks people.
Anyone know of any free alternatives?
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Anyone know of any free alternatives?
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Currently there are none that I know of that don't involve intensive setting up, such as having multiple accounts to log into, setting up multiple forwarding numbers, etc. You can try getting the APK from apktop (google apktop groove ip 1.2.9 and it's the first link) and seeing if it works, but I'm not sure if it requires cracking to be able to use. This way is probably the simplest and 100% foolproof way. The only thing I dislike about this app is that my screen has to stay on to use this app or else I have severe issues of the sound cutting in and out, so I just press home and then my power button twice to get to the lockscreen so that i don't have any apps starting up unwanted. Personally I think it's well worth the $3.99, but then again, I've started supporting all the devs of the apps I really like. It was stated on facebook, by him, that he offers an extended refund period for those people unhappy with his app. How much longer? No idea. But it is guaranteed that you can try this app for 24 hours and if you don't like it you can always get a refund from the market.

[Q] Sending "Private number" to voicemail

I would like to find a way to send incoming "Private number" calls to voicemail, without downloading an app (with the security risks involved with this, as all apps I found want to read phone #, all of my contacts, and have access to the internet).
In Googling I found that on other, older, phones you could create a contact with "Private number" in the mobile phone field and select the "All calls to voicemail". I tried this on my Galaxy Nexus running 4.0.4 and it doesn't seem to be working.
Is there another built-in procedure that works to accomplish this?
Or does anybody know an app that is not a security risk (i.e. does not request access to the internet and/or my phone and/or my contacts)?
BTW, these are the permissions that one of these Apps (this one called Calls Blacklist) is requesting:
DIRECTLY CALL PHONE NUMBERS
SEND SMS MESSAGES
RECEIVE SMS
READ SMS OR MMS
EDIT SMS OR MMS
NETWORK COMMUNICATION
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
READ PHONE STATE AND IDENTITY
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
MODIFY/DELETE USB STORAGE CONTENTS MODIFY/DELETE SD CARD CONTENTS
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
CHANGE WI-FI STATE
PREVENT TABLET FROM SLEEPING PREVENT PHONE FROM SLEEPING
MODIFY GLOBAL SYSTEM SETTINGS
CHANGE/INTERCEPT NETWORK SETTINGS AND TRAFFIC
DISPLAY SYSTEM-LEVEL ALERTS
You can't have an app send private calls to voicemail, but not be granted permission to see who is calling.
That would be like me saying to you; "I'm sorry sir, you're not appropriately dressed for this restaurant." over the phone.
Read reviews, not all of those apps are bad (some are though), and most of them will do exactly what you are looking to accomplish.
Security risks? The app kinda needs that information. You're better off not installing any apps as any of them could steal your valuable phone number.
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Liskrig said:
You can't have an app send private calls to voicemail, but not be granted permission to see who is calling.
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Duh, of course, it's not listed above as one of the unneeded permissions above.
But none of these are even remotely needed to do the job:
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
DIRECTLY CALL PHONE NUMBERS
SEND SMS MESSAGES
EDIT SMS OR MMS
Liskrig said:
Read reviews, not all of those apps are bad (some are though), and most of them will do exactly what you are looking to accomplish.
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How exactly could a reviewer know that the app author isn't selling all of my contacts to some spammer? The tenet of good security is to not leave the door open unecessarily.
Besides the fact that yet another app means yet another thing that can go wrong (battery drain, system instability, etc.)
Back to the original question: "Is there another built-in procedure that works to accomplish this?"
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Duh, of course!
But none of these are needed to do the job:
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
How exactly could a reviewer know that the app author isn't selling all of my contacts to some spammer? The tenet of good security is to not leave the door open unecessarily.
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Get one that doesn't ask for those permissions then. You're so paranoid that maybe a smartphone just isn't for you. Ever thought of who could be hacking your Wi-fi? They could steal and intercept ANYTHING sent through your home internet.
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Get one that doesn't ask for those permissions then.
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None found, hence this thread.
A response to the OP, without flaming and personal attacks would be greatly appreciated.
theking_13 said:
... You're so paranoid that maybe a smartphone just isn't for you...
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP+Franco
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If you're willing to install Google Voice (and really, it doesn't matter what permissions it asks for, you're running Google's OS which has access to EVERYTHING, so there's not much to think about) and switch to a Google Voice number, you can set it through the website settings that anonymous callers are directly routed to voicemail.
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If you're willing to install Google Voice (and really, it doesn't matter what permissions it asks for, you're running Google's OS which has access to EVERYTHING, so there's not much to think about)
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Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!
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and switch to a Google Voice number
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This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.[/QUOTE]
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...
hillrider said:
Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...
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Yeah, the replies haven't been particularly helpful so far. It's not "paranoid" to at least question the security of these apps, although the most popular ones are most likely fine.
You have a point with the non-Voice number. There's also the "no-turning-back" solution of porting your existing number to Google Voice for $20, which would then fix the problem, but it's not particularly ideal unless you're 100% sold on GV.
hillrider said:
Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...
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Port your actual phone number to Google Voice and ask for a new one from the carrier. Thats what I did. I setup a contact in my phone with my old number and have it setup to send the caller ID as my old number. So any call to that number all display as "Personal Call". The carrier number is my "Work Number".
I actually have 2 Google Voice numbers and my normal Verizon one (3 total). One for Personal, one for my side Website business, and my normal job.
I don't restrict any callers but there are options in there for unknowns and the likes. At least you can setup CALL SCREENING, where it asks for the persons name. So I can answer ANY call, it will say, "Call from... Donut Marketing" and it gives me 2 options, 1 to take the call... and 2 to send to VM.
If you press 2, it then says, "Ok I've sent the caller to VM. Press STAR at any time to join the call". So if the VM is someone I WANT to speak with, I just pop in and say Hi. Most Marketers will shy away from leaving their name... no name, no call. They typically hang up immediately. Still prevents me from having to talk to them and try to get off the phone.
Even when they do leave me a Google Voice Mail, it gets translated to text and emailed to me so I can read it seconds after they've left it. Then just delete like a normal email.
Super easy.
You can probably also call up your carrier and say you are getting lots of Marketing calls from Unknown numbers and want them blocked. They'll probably want to charge you a fee... but maybe not.
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Port your actual phone number to Google Voice and ask for a new one from the carrier. Thats what I did. I setup a contact in my phone with my old number and have it setup to send the caller ID as my old number. So any call to that number all display as "Personal Call". The carrier number is my "Work Number".
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how did you get verizon to port your number without killing your contract? i just called and they said its not possible.
Root call blocker does this.

MMS and Voice over wi-fi only

My ATT cell service just got cut off and not going to be able to have it for a while but I am on wi-fi most of the time anyway.
It would be great if I was able to keep my old number but I dont think that is possible but at least can I do MMS and SMS and hopefully voice too from my phone over wi-fi alone with no data network?
I thought WhatsAPP was able to do this but I cant figure it out.
Any insight to this? Would prefer to use WhatsApp but if there are better alternatives I am all ears!
Thanks!
Ok thank you for that option! Can I also have WhatsApp working at the same time?
jd14771 said:
honestly i don't know. But realistically if getting sms and voice over wifi are what you want its a non-issue.
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Ok great I will do this first to get back up with a "Real" number which will at least get me back up and running thank you!
And so I assume with my cell phone provider shut off this will only work on wi-fi. But cant I buy a wireless hotspot from another carrier and have it in my pocket and have the phone using that as a wi-fi hotpost and it should work anywhere the hotspot works right?
jd14771 said:
honestly i don't know. But realistically if getting sms and voice over wifi are what you want its a non-issue.
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and fyi, you have to hit "reply" to my post for me to get a notification. just in case your wondering why people dont answer you lol
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Strange thought I did hit "reply" I did it here did it show as reply here?
jd14771 said:
That would work fine, but two things-
1. that hotspot is going to overheat in your pocket
2. battery life is terrible. often 3-4 hours is what you should expect on a good day.
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Ok thanks for the heads up. So I already had Google Voice from long ago but never used it and went to the Google Voice website and it asked me to download the dialer to my phone so I did and it allowed me to place outgoing calls which is fine. I called my friend and he said the caller ID did not show up it was "unidentified" on my Google Voice page it gives me a "Your access number" is that my phone number that people can call my phone on because he tried and it does not work says call cannot be completed as dialed.
vipjeff said:
My ATT cell service just got cut off and not going to be able to have it for a while but I am on wi-fi most of the time anyway.
It would be great if I was able to keep my old number but I dont think that is possible but at least can I do MMS and SMS and hopefully voice too from my phone over wi-fi alone with no data network?
I thought WhatsAPP was able to do this but I cant figure it out.
Any insight to this? Would prefer to use WhatsApp but if there are better alternatives I am all ears!
Thanks!
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You got kakaotalk in the play store that has phone calls and texts for free over wifi, but I'm not sure if it asks for your phone number for a confirmation text message. Also, there is hangouts that has texts and video/voice calls and it doesn't need your phone number at all. Just wifi, only the other person needs to be on hangouts as well.
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Remember! if your Alliance manager FCs, just delete the "Alliance" folder in your SDcard then re-open the Alliance manager app.
jd14771 said:
Fun fact, Sign up for a google voice account first and get a free phone number. then install "hangouts dialer" and you can make calls to the us and mexico for free with the google voice number.
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That's new to me[emoji58]
But the phone number isn't your old number, right? Also, do you know if I can also make phone calls or even send text messages to other countries, specifically the middle east. My family is there and it's so expensive to call them.
Thanks for that btw
jd14771 said:
Fun fact, Sign up for a google voice account first and get a free phone number. then install "hangouts dialer" and you can make calls to the us and mexico for free with the google voice number.
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The problem is when I try to sign up for a new Google Voice account it wants a working phone number that it can call to verify which I dont have because my phone is shut off. Any way around this?
vipjeff said:
The problem is when I try to sign up for a new Google Voice account it wants a working phone number that it can call to verify which I dont have because my phone is shut off. Any way around this?
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Well then I suggest that you head to Walmart and get you a flip phone for $15 and slam one of those prepaid sim cards in it and use it until you get your phone working.
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Remember! if your Alliance manager FCs, just delete the "Alliance" folder in your SDcard then re-open the Alliance manager app.
K-alz said:
Well then I suggest that you head to Walmart and get you a flip phone for $15 and slam one of those prepaid sim cards in it and use it until you get your phone working.
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There is nothing wrong with my phone it is just the cell service is disabled, the wi-fi and BT work fine. Can I just go to another carrier and get a prepaid SIM or does my Note4 need to be unlocked and if so is there an unlock we can do or needs to go to unlocking place?
jd14771 said:
Well actually if you have a current acount with no leins, you can just port the number over for a small fee. And if you want to close said cell phone acount and keep that number for Google voice you can do that too.
International rates do apply at a very small cost from what I understand. You can definitely do it I just don't know if it will be cheaper for you or not I'm sure youl be able to find the price chart for the region they're in.
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Yes I am aware of that. My issue is that I have a large balance on that number so I realize when I can pay that balance I will. But in the meantime I am wanting to get a Google Voice or other number to work on that phone while the service is turned off, to work over WI-FI. I have seen people do it before I just dont know how they were doing it (may have not been Google Voice)
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There is nothing wrong with my phone it is just the cell service is disabled, the wi-fi and BT work fine. Can I just go to another carrier and get a prepaid SIM or does my Note4 need to be unlocked and if so is there an unlock we can do or needs to go to unlocking place?
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Yes, you can get a tmobile Sim card or a prepaid one if you can get att to sim unlock your phone.
K-alz said:
Yes, you can get a tmobile Sim card or a prepaid one if you can get att to sim unlock your phone.
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OK never-mind I figured it out. I am up and running on my phone that was just shut off from ATT with a huge bill by:
1. Getting an app that will allow me to send and receive text and voice call for free and will allow you to view your unique phone number.
2. Sign up for Google Voice.
3. Put the number in Google Voice from step one.
4. Download "Google HANGOUTS DIALER" from Google Play store. It fully supports MMS and SMS texts and calls in and out!
5. Set default text and call apps to "Hangouts Dialer" and you are all set!
SUPER happy about this. No more cell bill ever! :laugh:

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