[Q] Installing Orange stock rom caused phone to become unrooted? - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey well i've been experiancing echo's on leedroid and I didn't know if it was a hardware fault so I backed up to CM7 and it echoed so I instead installed the stock orange rom. This went smoothly, however now recovery doesn't work so I downloaded rom manager to reinstall recovery and it says I don't have permissions.
Some how my phone has become rooted again by installing the orange rom. Is this normal?
:EDIT:
Just checked and it's S-ON again :O.

Nvm, just found another thread and this is normal.
Question - Does this mean I have to unlock my phone from orange agian? Or am I at least unbranded? The gold card stuff was a pain!

8igdave said:
Hey well i've been experiancing echo's on leedroid and I didn't know if it was a hardware fault so I backed up to CM7 and it echoed so I instead installed the stock orange rom. This went smoothly, however now recovery doesn't work so I downloaded rom manager to reinstall recovery and it says I don't have permissions.
Some how my phone has become rooted again by installing the orange rom. Is this normal?
:EDIT:
Just checked and it's S-ON again :O.
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Every stock ROM makes the phone unrooted,
You have to follow the rooting procedure again to make it root.
If it on Gingerbread, first you have to downgrade, before make it permanent root.

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Can't UNROOT 0.80 Bootloader - Peed off

All,
Basically I have what was an Orange branded Desire but I unlocked and rooted it and until yesterday I was running Modaco R5 froyo MCR
I have tried to unroot and my goldcard works fine but it will only let me install the virgin ROM:
RUU_Bravo_Virgin_Mobile_1.23.351.1_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_128941_signed.exe
I have tried 5 different WWE and European RUU's but keep getting the same bootloader version error.
Any help or advice would be appreciated, I am not a noob to all this and flashed ROMS when I had my Hero, the only thing I can think of is that all the RUU Roms are for 7.5 Bootloader.
I think youre right, I believe that if you try to flash a rom that is compatible with the boot-loader it will fail, the first one I tried when trying to get to the official froyo without root didnt work I just went the other way and took the rooted option it means I can go back anytime without warranty issues.
I have a tmo with hboot 0.80. I am rooted and have flashed the froyo rooted vrsion which is what I think you need to do.
Best bet is to head over to macardo forum sign up and ask there, the thread I put on this morning asking about rooting has still not been answer at macardo I got answers straight away.
If your rooted install the clockworkmod recovery which you will find here under fake flash: hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189 change the xx's for t's^
follow the instructions
then install the rom manager from the market, first click on install rom from sd this will make th rom manager install files you need to access the recovery without having to flash it every time.
then download the latest radio found here : hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687464 Not th leaked but the latest 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20
put on root of sd card make sure you set your desire to charge only after this, go into rom manager and reboot into recovery you should see green writing not blue and it should look similar to what you see on hero or g1 then flash from sd card you radio once your radio has been flashed reboot put a froyo rootd rom onto your sd card and reboot into recovery the same way and flash job done.
This took me 5 hours believe it or not but now I know how to do it would probably take 20-30mins
claudefrog said:
All,
Basically I have what was an Orange branded Desire but I unlocked and rooted it and until yesterday I was running Modaco R5 froyo MCR
I have tried to unroot and my goldcard works fine but it will only let me install the virgin ROM:
RUU_Bravo_Virgin_Mobile_1.23.351.1_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_128941_signed.exe
I have tried 5 different WWE and European RUU's but keep getting the same bootloader version error.
Any help or advice would be appreciated, I am not a noob to all this and flashed ROMS when I had my Hero, the only thing I can think of is that all the RUU Roms are for 7.5 Bootloader.
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Try this http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2934 have not tried it myself, but it may be the only way to accomplish what you want.

[Q] Regarding flashing and what not.

Alright, so let me start off by saying that i'm a complete noob in the world of smartphones! I think i'm ready to throw a custom rom on my phone, but before i do that i'd like to have a couple of things clarified before i start screwing my phone up
So, in order to flash a custom rom onto my phone, firstly i need to downgrade my HBOOT from 0.92 to 0.80. No questions here really, seems pretty clear.
Then i need to gain root access to my phone, basically a 'protection' built in by most operating systems so that regular users wont screw things up by deleting/changing settings.
After that, i need to flash a custom recovery rom. This is basically a replacement for the original recovery screen which allows us to flash backup-images that we made (as the original recovery screen does not allow this). Correct?
Then i can flash a custom rom, which is nothing but a customized operating system by having certain things optimized and/or removed.
Now lets say everything worked out well and i have a custom rom on my phone, this means i have; Custom ROM + Custom Recovery + HBOOT 0.80.
If, for whatever reason, i need to send my phone back for repair. I would have to;
- Flash the backup-image that i made before starting this whole process.
- Flash the original recovery rom (is this possible?).
- Upgrade the HBOOT back to 0.92.
Correct?
I think thats all, thanks in advance!
Lunatic2 said:
Now lets say everything worked out well and i have a custom rom on my phone, this means i have; Custom ROM + Custom Recovery + HBOOT 0.80.
If, for whatever reason, i need to send my phone back for repair. I would have to;
- Flash the backup-image that i made before starting this whole process.
- Flash the original recovery rom (is this possible?).
- Upgrade the HBOOT back to 0.92.
Correct?
I think thats all, thanks in advance!
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1. You cannot make a backup image before starting the whole process. Nandroid to backup the whole system is only available after root.
2. You can flash the original rom, IF it is available.
3. The hboot would be upgraded automatically if you flashed an official HTC rom.
So basically if you are concerned about warranty issues and reverting back to stock, I'd have a look in the dev forum for official untouched roms, and see if yours is there. If it is then you just download it and flash it when needed. There is a thread listing official untouched roms for this very purpose!
Here's where you can get the stock HTC ROMs - if your current ROM is listed there then get it in case you ever have to unroot...
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bravo/
You can only downgrade the HBOOT from 0.92 to 0.80 if you have an AMOLED Desire - if you have an SLCD Desire you'll need a bit more work (at present, should change once unrEVOked gets updated)
Alright, thanks for the heads up! Just one more question, where can I see which rom I currently have installed? I have an unbranded HTC Desire with the 2.2 OTA update.
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One more question, when downgrading my HBOOT from 0.92 to 0.80, do i need to make a GoldCard, or is this only needed for branded devices?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
A goldcard is normally only needed for a branded handset so you should be fine without one.
Your software version is found by Pressing menu, then tap about phone > Software information.
rolfd said:
A goldcard is normally only needed for a branded handset so you should be fine without one.
Your software version is found by Pressing menu, then tap about phone > Software information.
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I knew where to find my software version, just wasnt sure which i had to download. I think i found it.
I have version 2.09.405.8, that should be this one:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.09.405.8_Radio_32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20_release_140022_signed.exe
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Thanks a bunch! Going to play with it today
Alright, so i installed a custom rom, didnt like it and decided to go back to stock 2.2 FroYo. My nandroid had a backup of a rooted 2.1 image, but using the system update from there didnt work as it whined about signatures.
So i ran the RUU update from my pc, everything is back to stock. 2.2 Froyo with a 5.x radio and 0.92 HBOOT.
Now i wanted to see if Clockworkmod Recovery had been removed aswell (read: see if the original recovery image was on there), but when i boot in to recovery mode, i get the red exclamation mark. After pressing Volume Up + Power i get the following message:
E:Can't open /cache/recovery/command
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Is this normal for phones that 'haven't been messed with' (if you know what i mean )
I just don't want to get warranty issues incase something happens
Thanks in advance again!
Lunatic2 said:
Alright, so i installed a custom rom, didnt like it and decided to go back to stock 2.2 FroYo. My nandroid had a backup of a rooted 2.1 image, but using the system update from there didnt work as it whined about signatures.
So i ran the RUU update from my pc, everything is back to stock. 2.2 Froyo with a 5.x radio and 0.92 HBOOT.
Now i wanted to see if Clockworkmod Recovery had been removed aswell (read: see if the original recovery image was on there), but when i boot in to recovery mode, i get the red exclamation mark. After pressing Volume Up + Power i get the following message:
Is this normal for phones that 'haven't been messed with' (if you know what i mean )
I just don't want to get warranty issues incase something happens
Thanks in advance again!
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Yes, that's totally normal. If you ran the ruu then you are back to an out of the factory handset.
Alright awesome, now i can go arround messing with ROM's again without having to worry that much. I guess i just had to go a bit of a trial and error to find out how it works, i've learned alot.
Just need to find a rom that looks close to a 2.2 stock one. I tried OpenDesire but didnt like all the custom stuff
Thanks!!

[Q] Unrooting a Desire completely to stock for warranty repair

Hi,
I'm at my wits end.
I've spent ages (most of last night and all of this morning !) looking through google and This forum, XDA developers etc etc etc and I'm no further forward
I have/had (not sure where I am at the moment.. will explain in a minute) a rooted Desire on FroYo. then my Desire started the overheating problem and randomly rebooting every 3 to 5 minutes. The only way I can keep it running long enough to do anything is to use an ice pack and chill the phone !
Anyway I tried to do a roll-back and lose root access etc and return my desire (UK Vodafone) to stock so I can send it in for a repair.
I initially used my nandroid backup to roll back to the previous version of my software, then I re did the official OTA to 2.2 and it SEEMED to work.. except I still seemed to have root access.. I certainly had the Superuser application in my applications list.
Apparently to delete superuser (or is it Superuser with capital S? I seem to have both?!) You need root (figures!) so.. ran unrevoked again, seemed to unroot again but :-
(a) try as I must i can't uninstall Superuser.apk. Tried using root manager, terminal and adb but I keep getting errors saying something about read write permissions?
(b) I have also read that I may need to restore the official Android recovery (have clockwork mod recovery at the moment) that needs to go too.
I just want to return my Desire back to store/factory.. but I can't seem to do this.
I'm feeling thick as cold mince at the moment.. Seems the process differs depending on different HBOOT versions/ device versions / root methods / day of week / alignment of the planets !!!
can anyone PLEASE help with an idiot (and boy do I mean IDIOT) proof guide to get rid of all traces of my naughtiness and back to a warranty friendly 2.2 Desire??
I think the simplest way is to use the windows-based RUU update files from shipped-roms.com as they'll replace your recovery with a stock one and unroot your phone (sends it completely back to stock vodafone).
The only vodafone UK one i see on there is..
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126338_signed.exe
There are a couple of caveats:
1) you may need to downgrade your hboot before the RUU will sucessfully flash the phone. There's a bunch of threads in the developer forum on how to downgrade hboot, depends on your screen type, which leads to...
2) this is kind of important, is your screen SLCD or AMOLED? The vodafone uk RUU is dated mid-june, so it will almost certainly only work on AMOLED desires. If you got the phone before mid-july it's definitely AMOLED but if you're unsure there are threads about how to check (i think the easiest way is to pull up a dark screen such as the settings menu in a darkened room and see if the black areas of the screen are true black or just very dark grey like on an LCD pc monitor).
Providing your phone is AMOLED, once you've installed that RUU you can use the OTA upgrade in the about phone menu to go from 2.1 to 2.2.
please report back if you have got rid of Superuser that way because i have the same problem
i formatted my sd card and then updated OTA2.2 and for some reason i still have Superuser and i plan on returning to warranty for camera problems
supriz said:
please report back if you have got rid of Superuser that way because i have the same problem
i formatted my sd card and then updated OTA2.2 and for some reason i still have Superuser and i plan on returning to warranty for camera problems
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Thats because the OTA (in contrast to a RUU) does not install a completely fresh image of the /system partition (where the root files normally are installed) but just replace/patch most of the existing files. Other files, like su will stay untouched.
You also won't be able to just remove those files as you are obviously s-on, which means even root can't write to system easily.
Some options for you are:
- find a RUU that fits your device and install it (there will be lots of instructions for flashing around) €: Watch out if you have an SLCD!!! Can't state that often enough...
- S-off your device, remove all root files from /system, flash the original recovery/splash/hboot via fastboot (this might help)
i had the same problem, i solved it by flashing a RUU then rerooted. i am fine now
unrooting the original stock rom
Hi guys, I have a similar problem. I rooted my desire with unrevocked 3.21 and everything was fine.
BUT I havent flashed any new rom, I still have the original rom, I was only interested in rooting.
Now I need to sell my phone so I want to restore factory settings.
Can I do it with just doing a "factory reset" or I need to flash using the RUU....exe?
thanks for your support!
Just to be safe use the ruu
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

How to update system when your HTC is rooted

Bros, please help
My Desire is running Froyo 2.2 and I rooted it.
There is an OTA today for version 2.29. I already download it. But when it restarted and installed, it failed with error like wrong signature or sth like that.
Please help me if you got any clue on this.
warmest regards,
Don't apply OTA updates on rooted devices, either use a custom rom which is based on 2.29 or use a 2.29 RUU and root again.
TheGhost1233 said:
Don't apply OTA updates on rooted devices, either use a custom rom which is based on 2.29 or use a 2.29 RUU and root again.
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Exactly. I think you have too little knowledge of rooting. Don't even think about the word "official" when you rooted your phone.
Actually I toggled Sig off in Clockwork mod and
was able to install the update, it went well and the phone was working
fine, i did loose my root tho , so I had to root again....
I am a beginner, so don't take this as advice, cause I don't know
the downside off togling Sig off. I just wanted to state that in fact
it is possible to ota a rooted device..
grtz
Lanbase said:
Actually I toggled Sig off in Clockwork mod and
was able to install the update, it went well and the phone was working
fine, i did loose my root tho , so I had to root again....
I am a beginner, so don't take this as advice, cause I don't know
the downside off togling Sig off. I just wanted to state that in fact
it is possible to ota a rooted device..
grtz
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Thx for your advice.
It's generally considered that if you're rooted you should not apply an OTA as you won't truely be back to 'stock' and it can cause issues further down the line. It can be done, though, as highlighted above but if people just used some common sense as opposed to just saying OK to any updates this question wouldn't get asked 30 times a day

[Q] Wildfire S HELP!!!

This is a long story!
My firend asked me to take a look at his daughters phone as the wifi had stopped working. They had already sent it away to be fixed but got the phone back with big letter saying it had illegal software on it so they (orange) refused to fix the phone. I assumed she had been trying to root the phone but only did half a job.
I now have the hboot unlocked but for love nor money can I get the phone to install any roms....I assume the rooting process hasnt worked
The only reason I wanted to load a custom rom was to see if it rectified the wifi problem.
Phone info -
Orange Branded Wildfire S
2.3.5 android
2.1 Sense
2.14.61.1 software
UNLOCKED
Marvel PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT 1.08.0099
Radio- 7.53.39.03M
Im not even fussed about custom firmware if anyone can point me to an installer that might help.
The wifi status says 'error'
Have you used a rooting method???? 'cause just unlocking the bootloader doesn't mean rooting it..... and do install CWM for it
I used the supertool v3 which gave me the rooted message. There any way to check it was defo successfull?
lostboybinns said:
I used the supertool v3 which gave me the rooted message. There any way to check it was defo successfull?
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Do you have a "Superuser" app in your drawer?
I was just about to say that the method that gave me rooted meant u had to manually install the superuser but I have no wifi......so no
with the supertool I get a loading scipt message which freezes....well taking longer than advised
Try manually installing superuser, and try using apps that require root permissions. Other than that, i don't know what else could confirm if your rooting was successful.
and how do I manually install it? I have no wifi and this is my first play with a HTC phone ;-)
Try googling for Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed zip and place it on sd card
I think you will need to have cwm recovery installed first, then boot into recovery and install the zip
If you have problems installing cwm, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431969
Zapirkon.....youre a legend......all going to plan thus far...Ill update (when I run into more problems lol)
am installing the CyanogenMod 7.2 but its taking forever on the scrren with the swirling circle
Sweet. All sorted.
I reinstalled the zip file but I restored and deleted the cache which seemed to do the trick. And most importantly it sorted iut the wifi problem and the other little random niggles.....so all in all I saved my mate £130! THANKS to those that helped

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