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alrighty so here it is the ota is coming and i silly as i may be rooted like 3-4 days ago. i didnt take the time to s-off just got the custom recovery updated the radio to 2.05 and downloaded sky raider vanilla. hboot is .79.
now from my research that ive gather and correct me if im wrong but all i need to do is :
*s-off
*flash the stock recovery
after that i should be good for the ota correct?
so far i got the s-off done looking for a lil bit of instruction as to how to get the stock recovery flashed safely.
Any and all help is greatly appreciated i thank you all very much.
inessi said:
alrighty so here it is the ota is coming and i silly as i may be rooted like 3-4 days ago. i didnt take the time to s-off just got the custom recovery updated the radio to 2.05 and downloaded sky raider vanilla. hboot is .79.
now from my research that ive gather and correct me if im wrong but all i need to do is :
*s-off
*flash the stock recovery
after that i should be good for the ota correct?
so far i got the s-off done looking for a lil bit of instruction as to how to get the stock recovery flashed safely.
Any and all help is greatly appreciated i thank you all very much.
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I have attached the stock recovery that needs to be flashed from the HBOOT.
It is my understanding however, that you need to downgrade to the .77 HBOOT, 1.xx radio AND 2.1 system for the update to notify you, give you the option to download, and install successfully. However, I am a few drinks into my night.
If you choose to follow that path. I suggest you read this
awesome stuff really appreciate it man gonna give it a try now, fellow floridian lol
inessi said:
awesome stuff really appreciate it man gonna give it a try now, fellow floridian lol
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w00t!
If you get hung up anywhere, pm me and I'll give you a number to call me at in the morning/afternoon and I'll walk you through it.
your my hero bud, my freaking hero stock recovery got s-off i think thats all i need to recieve the ota and do it yea?
thnx
See, from this point, I'm not sure if you need the .77 HBOOT 1.xx Radio and 2.1build-1 on your phone (I'm really questioning it, as I beleive I read in a few places that you do, but I'm not sure at this point in the evening). I don't think the Skyraider rom will get a notification when the update is available. I'd say if you don't get a notification for the update when everyone else in the free world is, then you may have to.
As long as you have S-OFF, it doesn't matter either way, you have complete control for the rest of your phone's life. Whatever you do, don't turn it back on lol.
hmmm well if it doesnt show up guess my next set of questions is how to get back to stock everything
inessi said:
hmmm well if it doesnt show up guess my next set of questions is how to get back to stock everything
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The link I posted above with the "I suggest you read this" line is where you will need to go if it boils down to that.
o haha some how i missed that lil section of text did you just add that recently?
but ok sounds good ill run through it in the morning probably
and holy crap the link you posted makes this all look so simple hah
Well I have stock everything, except for my hboot is .79, im on stock 2.1 stock recovery just have .79 hboot not .77, i think i will still get the update though...
rdmerck said:
thnx
See, from this point, I'm not sure if you need the .77 HBOOT 1.xx Radio and 2.1build-1 on your phone (I'm really questioning it, as I beleive I read in a few places that you do, but I'm not sure at this point in the evening). I don't think the Skyraider rom will get a notification when the update is available. I'd say if you don't get a notification for the update when everyone else in the free world is, then you may have to.
As long as you have S-OFF, it doesn't matter either way, you have complete control for the rest of your phone's life. Whatever you do, don't turn it back on lol.
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I too am awaiting the OTA update and was concerned. My phone is running 2.1 update 1 and is rooted. Will this prevent me from receiving the OTA update? If so what steps do I need to take to make sure I get the update then? Also should I put on unrevoked forever? If I do so will I need to do anything other than that to still receive the OTA update and keep root access?
magneto417x said:
I too am awaiting the OTA update and was concerned. My phone is running 2.1 update 1 and is rooted. Will this prevent me from receiving the OTA update? If so what steps do I need to take to make sure I get the update then? Also should I put on unrevoked forever? If I do so will I need to do anything other than that to still receive the OTA update and keep root access?
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Other than the root, did you modify anything else to your phone?
If not, your still with the .77 HBOOT, 1.xx baseband, and 2.1update-1 system?
Add unrevoked forever to remove s-off, then flash the stock recovery back to your phone. Your goal here is to have S-Off
in order to get the OTA (from my understanding) you need the stock recovery, do a little search I have all the faith in the world that you will find what you are looking for. you want to run unrevoked forever BEFORE you accept the OTA2.2, so this is your steps, root, run unrevoked forever getting S-OFF, find the file for the stock recovery, PB..IMG file, flash that in hboot, this will set u back to stock 2.1 update1, stock radio, stock recovery, but still have S-OFF to regain root, after the OTA comes.
So if I have stock everything, and have hboot .79 will I still get the OTA I don't see why not...
BlazeD OnE said:
in order to get the OTA (from my understanding) you need the stock recovery, do a little search I have all the faith in the world that you will find what you are looking for. you want to run unrevoked forever BEFORE you accept the OTA2.2, so this is your steps, root, run unrevoked forever getting S-OFF, find the file for the stock recovery, PB..IMG file, flash that in hboot, this will set u back to stock 2.1 update1, stock radio, stock recovery, but still have S-OFF to regain root, after the OTA comes.
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Currently the only thing I have done was rooted and removed CityID and but have not changed the radio or anything else. I have installed Unrevoked forever now. So do I still need to flash stock recovery even though I haven't changed the boot files or radio files at all?
Yes from what I've read you HAVE to have the stock recovery. what is your HBOOT once u get stock recovery?
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Yes from what I've read you HAVE to have the stock recovery. what is your HBOOT once u get stock recovery?
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My HBOOT is 0.79.0000
Radio 1.00.03.04.06
Any input would be helpful as to whether I will get OTA or do I need to do something.
once in hboot, go to recovery, if you have clockwork you wont get it i dont think, if you get a red triangle you have stock recovery and you are good to go.
magneto417x said:
I too am awaiting the OTA update and was concerned. My phone is running 2.1 update 1 and is rooted. Will this prevent me from receiving the OTA update? If so what steps do I need to take to make sure I get the update then? Also should I put on unrevoked forever? If I do so will I need to do anything other than that to still receive the OTA update and keep root access?
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Yes, install unrevoked forever. The fact that you are rooted will not affect the ability of your upgrade, it is the lack of the stock recovery that will halt you.
Unrevoked forever will allow you to flash ANY zip file you want to the phone (namely a zip that has su and Superuser.apk) and will allow you to regain root in the event that it is ever lost due to an OTA or user error.
S-OFF is a beautiful thing.
I would love to take my phone to Verizon right now with a manufactured problem, let him see the Superuser, official 2.2 system and then stock recovery. Could be priceless!
I have my HTC DESIRE locked to 3 UK, i rooted it the other day, and when i was installing a rom, i was told to update the radio, and i no longer get reception, and when i do it just seems to come and go, stupid me i forgot to check what radio i had installed at first, and now i just want everything to go back to normal and i really dont know what steps to take, i tried using a 3 UK ruu, but it was for hboot 0.80, but i have 0.93.0001 and when i tried it it would just give me an error saying please try again with the correct RUU, well something along them lines.
Could anyone please help me?
Thanks
You've already answered your own question - you need the 3 FroYo RUU or a stock RUU with a gold card to get back to stock. You can, however, just flash another radio and see what happens
EddyOS said:
You've already answered your own question - you need the 3 FroYo RUU or a stock RUU with a gold card to get back to stock. You can, however, just flash another radio and see what happens
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Thanks for the advice, but that didnt seem to work as i had to unroot and downgrade my HBOOT first. But i figured it out now, and now have my Desire unrooted properly with the 3 FROYO rom by using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256 and then installing the official 3 rom.
Thanks
DO NOT FLASH A NEW RUU OR OFFICIAL ROM IMAGE UNLESS YOU *REALLY* KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING !
Sorry for shouting, but this is very important. Thanks to the mods for making this sticky.
The latest official RUU that has been released - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870369 - has been found to break the existing methods of rooting and getting full S-OFF.
This shouldn't be a big suprise, because when HTC saw that the amazing devs on XDA had cracked the existing security, we should expect them to put something even tougher in later releases.
So flashing any later release, whether that's an official RUU or just the ROM image (PC10IMG.zip) is a very dangerous thing to do until it has been fully tested and "cleared" by the devs here. i.e. your previously rooted and S-OFF'd phone might lose root and go back to S-ON, and be unable to be rooted and S-OFF'd again.
It's of course fine if your phone came with a particular ROM release to flash that *exact same* release back onto the phone if you want to return to stock. What I'm referring to is flashing a brand new release that isn't the one that came with your phone.
It's fine to flash custom ROMs of course, because those have already been tested out. In general, it's probably best to steer very clear of new official releases, and wait till the devs have pulled them apart and put any cool new stuff into a custom ROM. Then you know it'll be safe to flash.
Currently I don't think it's entirely clear what just flashing a new *radio* on its own will do, as opposed to the entire ROM/RUU. That's still being worked on. But steer clear of even that if you're not sure what you're doing or dont' want to take any chances of losing root/S-OFF.
Thanks for reading
Thanks for the heads up.
I flashed the ROM you mentioned.
For those who want to try:
Just remember to get REAL S-OFF using gfree before flashing it.
This provide you a medicine for regret. You can get back to WWE ROM using WWE RUU and root/recover your old ROM.
What is RUU? What is it to do with ROMs? Did HTC provide a change log for newer Radio? Or does anyone know what changes are , in the latest Radio?
Just to be clear. Don’t flame me for this please. I’m still learning just like many others in here.
androidtoy09 said:
What is RUU? What is it to do with ROMs? Did HTC provide a change log for newer Radio? Or does anyone know what changes are , in the latest Radio?
Just to be clear. Don’t flame me for this please. I’m still learning just like many others in here.
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We don't have a changelog, no.
RUU is ROM Update Utility. It's a program to run on Windows (.exe) which flashes your new ROM for you, and holds your hand through the process. It's possible to extract just the ROM zip file from the exe so you can flash it yourself if you want.
The thing about the RUU and stock ROMs is that they will flash pretty much *everything* on your phone. So as well as a new system partition (the main stuff for Android), you'll probably get a new hboot, new radio, new recovery. Those *might* all have increased security which is a lot more difficult to crack. So generally you should not flash it until we know it's "safe" to do so, i.e. it can be re-rooted and S-OFF'd etc.
steviewevie said:
We don't have a changelog, no.
RUU is ROM Update Utility. It's a program to run on Windows (.exe) which flashes your new ROM for you, and holds your hand through the process. It's possible to extract just the ROM zip file from the exe so you can flash it yourself if you want.
The thing about the RUU and stock ROMs is that they will flash pretty much *everything* on your phone. So as well as a new system partition (the main stuff for Android), you'll probably get a new hboot, new radio, new recovery. Those *might* all have increased security which is a lot more difficult to crack. So generally you should not flash it until we know it's "safe" to do so, i.e. it can be re-rooted and S-OFF'd etc.
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Ok, thanks for clearing it up. So, RUU is pretty much similar to the method RIM uses to flash its OS on the Blackberries.
Im a little confused here.. So just to clear some things up i hope someone will answer these questions i have.
I have the software on my Desire Z that it came with (1.34.405.5), which i've rooted, S-off'ed and installed another kernel for OC porpuses. This is working fine, but lets say that i wanted to try another rom .. After some time i decide to go back to the stock software and then update to the newest software, would that be a problem? And has HTC released some newer software than the one iam using?
If you flashed back to stock, that would be fine. But if you flashed a new official update (e.g OTA), then you run the risk of installing something that you can't root/S-OFF.
It is best to steer clear of any official upgrades until they've been checked by the devs here and been given the all-clear.
Given that the phone came with certain areas write-protected, and the devs managed to crack that, we should be expecting HTC to release an even more secure update.
Yes, there is a new ROM out, at the moment for Egypt, that seems to have increased security. It would not be a suprise if HTC rolled out similar security as an OTA update for all existing ROMs. Right now there is something in that Egypt ROM (probably the hboot, at the minimum) which mean existing permanent root and S-OFF methods fail. It may be this is easily cracked again, or maybe it will take some time, who knows.
Bottom line - don't apply any official updates to your phone if it is rooted/S-OFF or you plan to root/S-OFF.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
perm-rooted g2 stock tmobile rom s-off
ok, my question is....i perm-rooted my g2 and have s-off, does this mean that i cant except the new gingerbread OTA update? ive had my fill of flashing roms with my old windows phone.. att tilt, tmobile touch pro 2, and tmobile hd2. im not looking to flash my g2 with a new rom...no offense to the chefs. love there work. but i only rooted the g2 to get rid of the bs apps that tmobile and google added to the phone. and i thought i heard that wen u root the phone tmobile cant tell wen u tether, so there for no more throttle b/s but thats not true...i must have miss read. but i would like to stay w/the stock rom and still b able to install the Gingerbread OTA. please someone provide an answer for me or point me in the right direction. thank you in advance.... sorry if the answer is already provided somewhere and i over looked it, i tend to do that a lot.
blitz69 said:
ok, my question is....i perm-rooted my g2 and have s-off, does this mean that i cant except the new gingerbread OTA update? ive had my fill of flashing roms with my old windows phone.. att tilt, tmobile touch pro 2, and tmobile hd2. im not looking to flash my g2 with a new rom...no offense to the chefs. love there work. but i only rooted the g2 to get rid of the bs apps that tmobile and google added to the phone. and i thought i heard that wen u root the phone tmobile cant tell wen u tether, so there for no more throttle b/s but thats not true...i must have miss read. but i would like to stay w/the stock rom and still b able to install the Gingerbread OTA. please someone provide an answer for me or point me in the right direction. thank you in advance.... sorry if the answer is already provided somewhere and i over looked it, i tend to do that a lot.
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The trouble is, HTC/T-Mobile don't want you to root and/or S-OFF your phone, because it's a lot easier to end up bricking the phone if you don't know what you're doing. They put greatly increased security on the G2/DZ/DHD when they came out, in order to help prevent this.
Now this security has been cracked, we can expect HTC/T-Mobile to try and increase security even further (e.g. closing loopholes that let our current methods of root/S-OFF work) in future updates.
So if you accept any future OTA, you run a high risk of accepting something that will lock you out of root and S-OFF, at least temporarily, and possibly permanently (depending on how good a solution they come up with).
If you are not bothered about root/S-OFF, then that's fine of course.
This doesn't mean that you necessarily have to switch to a custom ROM to get updates though. If you stay with the stock ROM (and I'm still on a stock ROM too right now), then just do not accept the update when an OTA comes out, and keep checking these forums to see when the devs say that they can root/S-OFF with the new version. When they say it's ok then you know you can apply the update and still get root/S-OFF.
This already happened with the G2. Very soon after release, but after rooting had been achieved, there was an OTA. Most people here decided to wait until the OTA had been looked at, and sure enough there was a small adjustment needed to the rooting method. But of course this OTA was before HTC had a chance to respond to the cracking of the security, so as I said, any future updates may well require a lot more time and effort from the devs to investigate and crack again.
Ok. Thank you very much
Will this muff up my phone if I factory reset it by using the Power+Volume Down option?
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
Ganii said:
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
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What do you mean with gfree?
Is my waranty broken When i execute radio s-off?
Is it possible to make it radio s-on?
Yes,warranty is broken,but with the new gfree method
you can go back to S-ON:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
ericjosepi said:
Will this muff up my phone if I factory reset it by using the Power+Volume Down option?
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If you do a factory reset then I think you'll lose root, but you can get it back again easily enough. The issue for this thread is flashing new updated stuff from HTC etc.
Ganii said:
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
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You might still need that backup, e.g. if you don't know what your old CID was and you want to un-do that bit too. I would keep it.
Sorry I don't think I understand your last question though, or why you say the uberroot method (I'm personally not keen on that name, it's just the usual method using Visionary/rage with gfree, not a new method) doesn't work.
Ok,so I can go back to S-ON with gfree commands from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
If you are only interested in permanent root you only need radio S-OFF and then it is sufficient to use
# ./gfree -s off
instead of
# ./gfree -f
in the following commands.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON by using the "-s on" option and to change the CID back to the original value be using i.e. "-c T-MOB010" if you want or have to go back.
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But for CID (you mean SuperCid right?) I need the backup?
And with the last question which you don`t understand,I mean
with flashing the HTC RUU 1.34.405.5 I don`t go back to S-ON
and original CID whether I use UBERROT method or this from here:
(Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
Thanks for the advice, I will stick myself with the current rom for a while
Ganii said:
Ok,so I can go back to S-ON with gfree commands from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
But for CID (you mean SuperCid right?) I need the backup?
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Yes, I mean to go from your SuperCID back to your regular CID. You might not know what your original CID was.
And with the last question which you don`t understand,I mean
with flashing the HTC RUU 1.34.405.5 I don`t go back to S-ON
and original CID whether I use UBERROT method or this from here:
(Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
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Yes, if you flash a stock ROM then it won't affect your S-OFF and CID status (or SIM unlock). These are stored in your radio configuration partition, and not in any of the partitions which are overwritten by the ROM flash.
Ok, so my friend tried flashing some new Rom in the Hboot and it didn't complete or something and it caused the phone to update the radio and turn S-on. So now we restored the phone since it wouldn't turn on and at the moment we are at 6.1.1 with the newest Radio_12.5 0.60.24_26.08.04.16_M, and rooted but S-on. Question is, how do we go about getting S-off?
We thought about unrooting and maybe restoring all the way back to stock but didn't know if that would allow us to even downgrade the radio? Is he just stuck? Any help would be great.
And to clarify, I didn't do it, or have any part of what happened, so comments about me flashing and not knowing what I was doing need not to be stated, I'm just trying to get some help from him as he has a 0 post count.
Thanks.
nm. problem solved
I am new to the Android development scene (appro 6 months now) and when I first rooted, I neglected to backup my stock ROM. I'm much more comfortable now, but am still confused about a few things. I'd like to have a stock image to rely on if something goes wrong or I need to call for service. Should I unroot and use a RUU or an odex ROM? Do I really even need to unroot? Is it necessary to update my HBOOT image as well? I know this is a lot of questions, but I remember from my days of DSS testing that I wish I had a backup of my original CAM! Is it too late?
I was a little nervous to use the 'unrevoked-forever-s-on'. I can't re-root?
I don't recall which method I used to root. I think toasted. Does it matter?
Currently I have multiple ROMS. Primarily I use Cyanogen, Warm2.2, or Ava. I have 0.76 hboot, and ROM manager premium... I use whichever recovery is necessary.
Suggestions?
Also, how can I be sure which RUU or ROM to use as stock. I am worried that there were updates that blocked rooting with some methods. How do I know which RUU will be the best bet? I remember having to wait for updates to come down from the satellite stream. Does it matter if I use an older RUU then wait for updates, or just use a recent stock posting?
If you need to take your evo in for servicing, its recommended to unroot, for a few reasons. Also, if you unroot, you'd need to run an ruu appropriate to your hboot version. That will send you back to completely stock, so no need to flash a stock rom after that, then you can simply run an OTA update, then take it in.
And yes, if you run an old/incorrect ruu, you'll just get errors.
Thanks! and I clicked thanks too
my hboot is 0.76. what RUU is compatible with that? (I've checked the ROM sticky and there is none) should i just pick most recent RUU and flash the corresponding hboot, then flash that RUU? When I looked at the most recent RUU posting, it says DO NOT FLASH! YOU WILL LOSE ROOT! Do they mean permanently?
I gotta run! I got kids! Thanks again... be back tonight!
lil_bono said:
Thanks! and I clicked thanks too
my hboot is 0.76. what RUU is compatible with that? (I've checked the ROM sticky and there is none) should i just pick most recent RUU and flash the corresponding hboot, then flash that RUU? When I looked at the most recent RUU posting, it says DO NOT FLASH! YOU WILL LOSE ROOT! Do they mean permanently?
I gotta run! I got kids! Thanks again... be back tonight!
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You lose root, it returns you back to stock, but you can re-root as well.
Thanks. I guess I am over-thinking this...