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[Q] GSM network mode

I have noticed people managed to change their network mode to GSM only mode??? How do you that?? I only have 2 options: WCMDA and GSM/WCDMA auto?? Is this thing vary due to your courier?? Currently I am with 3 Australia. I wish I have the option to switch only to GSM. From experience, it can save you a lot of battery.

If you don't have the option then you can't pick it. I don't know if that means it's been removed or if it's simply because 3 don't offer a 2G network service (GSM mode). They probably have some 2G sharing but only in spots without 3G so you still have the GSM/WCDMA auto mode.
That's the best I can offer since I know that's how it works with 3 over here in the UK where they have only their 3G network. The firmware likely has GSM mode disabled for that reason but wait for more to back me up or prove me wrong.

Dyonas said:
If you don't have the option then you can't pick it. I don't know if that means it's been removed or if it's simply because 3 don't offer a 2G network service (GSM mode). They probably have some 2G sharing but only in spots without 3G so you still have the GSM/WCDMA auto mode.
That's the best I can offer since I know that's how it works with 3 over here in the UK where they have only their 3G network. The firmware likely has GSM mode disabled for that reason but wait for more to back me up or prove me wrong.
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I have a feeling it could be the ROM or firmware that comes with it has it disabled the GSM only option. My Desire HD is the UK version. I am not sure if the other Australian version (from Voda or 3) have that options. With my original desire (and also using 3), I have that GSM only option available. So I dont think it's because 3 doesnt offer 2G network.

Get Advanced settings from Market. You can set it to GSM Only in the phone information menu.

LecterMe said:
Get Advanced settings from Market. You can set it to GSM Only in the phone information menu.
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Thank you for sharing..yes, it works....but I will try out and see if it does save a lot of battery life.

Type *#*#4636#*#* in the phone dialer to get to testing menu. Under phone info you can set different options that are not otherwise available. No app is required.
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ardsar said:
Type *#*#4636#*#* in the phone dialer to get to testing menu. Under phone info you can set different options that are not otherwise available. No app is required.
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Thanks for the info. I have tested both method...both work. But the only problem, how do we set it permanently?? I mean I have noticed every time you reboot the phone, the setting changes?? and I have to set it back to GSM only??

but even if you could technically switch it to gsm, would it actually make a difference? surely if the actual mobile network is pure 3g and no 2g, then switching on the phone wouldn't change a thing? as its not actually possible to use 2g on 3 network?(because they built network from scratch out of 3g is what they always boast about anyway..)

This is strange. I have an unbranded bought sim free HTC sensation here in the UK which Im using on the 3 network and I dont have the option under network to set it to gsm only. This option should be here on an unbranded handset, and its there on my old Desire which was also bought unbranded sim free when Im using that on the 3 network.
Anyone shed any light on this? I know the work arounds mentioned above, but Im more interested in why the option is missing on my handset.
Cheers
PS I know this is the Desire HD thread but its the only topic I could find on this subject so far.

I don't think it matters, just don't even bother with the settings menu for that in the first place. in the Testing menu just set the radio to either GSM Auto (PRL) or GSM Only. GSM gives more talk time.

Mobile Network mode GSM/CDMA confusion *#*#4636#*#*

Entering in the "secret" menu *#*#4636#*#*, i noticed that the default network mode is GSM/CDMA auto (PRL)
Aren't two completely different networks (and phone)? Or what that CDMA setting is referring?
Since my GNext is GSM and in my country there is no CDMA network operators, is that the best option regarding the battery life?
I remember that in my previous htc desire, the default network mode was WCDMA preferred (WCDMA different from CDMA), even if i was using GSM auto (PRL) which mean that if the 3g is low it will use the 2g network...and i remember there was nothing about CDMA network
So my doubt is why the Galaxy Nexus GSM doesn't have GSM auto (PRL) or WCDMA preferred as default option? is that a bug?
here a reference about the network mode http://www.google.ie/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=6a327a95211ac789&hl=en
GSM = GPRS (2g), EDGE(2g), UMTS(3g), WCDMA(3g), HSDPA(3g) {Cell Carrier examples: AT&T and T-Mobile}
CDMA = CDMA*(2/3g) EV-DO(3g) WiMax(3/4g) {Cell Carrier examples: Verizon and Sprint}
Now that the general stuff is out of the way, here's my take on the Preferred Network types:
WCDMA preferred - The GSM phone is capable of using both 2G and 3G data communication and when signal strength is low 3G is favored more.
GSM only - The GSM phone is capable of using only 2G data communication. When the 2G signal is too low you get nothing at all.
WCDMA only - The GSM phone is capable of using only 3G data communication. When the 3G signal is too low you get nothing at all.
GSM auto (PRL) - The GSM phone is capable of using both 2G and 3G data communication and when signal strength is low 2G is favored more. This one is a bit confusing to me since PRL is associated mostly with CDMA technology and not GSM technology.
CDMA auto (PRL) - The CDMA phone is capable of using both 2G and 3G data communication and when signal strength is low 2G is favored more.
CDMA only - The CDMA phone is capable of using only 2G data communication. When the 2G signal is too low you get nothing at all.
EvDo only - The CDMA phone is capable of using only 3G data communication. When the 3G signal is too low you get nothing at all.
GSM/CDMA auto (PRL) - Some phones are equipped with both GSM and CDMA capabilities. This setting appears to just have the phone attempt to stay connected to the data communication type that works the best.
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In addition seems there is no way to change the network mode in that menu on my gnext, the option i choice doesn't stick

andQlimax said:
Entering in the "secret" menu *#*#4636#*#*, i noticed that the default network mode is GSM/CDMA auto (PRL)
Aren't two completely different networks (and phone)? Or what that CDMA setting is referring?
Since my GNext is GSM and in my country there is no CDMA network operators, is that the best option regarding the battery life?
I remember that in my previous htc desire, the default network mode was WCDMA preferred (WCDMA different from CDMA), even if i was using GSM auto (PRL) which mean that if the 3g is low it will use the 2g network...and i remember there was nothing about CDMA network
So my doubt is why the Galaxy Nexus GSM doesn't have GSM auto (PRL) or WCDMA preferred as default option? is that a bug?
here a reference about the network mode http://www.google.ie/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=6a327a95211ac789&hl=en
In addition seems there is no way to change the network mode in that menu on my gnext, the option i choice doesn't stick
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Id like to know why the options dont stick as well... Just seems stupid to me that they dont stay after you choose them.

I have also been wondering the same thing. On the Nexus One and Nexus S it would default to WCDMA prefered and if I were to force 3G on it then it would stick on a reboot. On the GN if I put it to WCDMA only or GSM only it will revert to the GSM/CDMA auto (PRL) network type. It did this on stock 4.0.2 and it's also doing it on CM9.

In that menu there is something about LTE ram dump too. Is there a little more ram the LTE guys are getting that's hidden on GSM?
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GSM auto (PRL) won't stick but WCDMA did for me but I REALLY regret changing it. It caused my SMSC number to change to 00 and I couldn't change it back on my GNex. It took me a while to figure out that the SMSC had changed and it stopped me from sending text messages but I could still receive them. After wiping and flashing a few times I realised and I put the sim card into an old phone and changed the SMSC back and put it back in my GNex and it let me send texts again.

3bs11 said:
GSM auto (PRL) won't stick but WCDMA did for me but I REALLY regret changing it. It caused my SMSC number to change to 00 and I couldn't change it back on my GNex. It took me a while to figure out that the SMSC had changed and it stopped me from sending text messages but I could still receive them. After wiping and flashing a few times I realised and I put the sim card into an old phone and changed the SMSC back and put it back in my GNex and it let me send texts again.
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I am going to eat my own words but iv just done the same thing, can't send SMS. I don't have an old phone to put my sim in. I'm not sure what my SMSC was to change it back. Ideas?
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The Gingerbread Man said:
I am going to eat my own words but iv just done the same thing, can't send SMS. I don't have an old phone to put my sim in. I'm not sure what my SMSC was to change it back. Ideas?
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God it was a nightmare yesterday. I did a google search and found the number on vodafone forums for my country. What's your carrier? Even if you have the number maybe you won't be able to put it on your nexus like me but you can try. Another possible solution might be to get a new sim card but I'm not sure if that'll work. I just read it online.
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The Gingerbread Man said:
I am going to eat my own words but iv just done the same thing, can't send SMS. I don't have an old phone to put my sim in. I'm not sure what my SMSC was to change it back. Ideas?
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OK try +44-7973100973 for orange uk
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Thanks shall give it a try!
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The Gingerbread Man said:
Thanks shall give it a try!
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Good luck. Let me know if it works or not.

3bs11 said:
Good luck. Let me know if it works or not.
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Apparently not. The annoying thing is there is thing OEM specific carrier info button which is greyed out, I bet that would sort out my settings.
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The Gingerbread Man said:
Apparently not. The annoying thing is there is thing OEM specific carrier info button which is greyed out, I bet that would sort out my settings.
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Mine is greyed out too so maybe that doesn't change anything in this case. I guess your best bet is trying to put the sim card into another phone and set the SMSC number on that phone then plug it back into your GNex. I used an old blackberry

3bs11 said:
Mine is greyed out too so maybe that doesn't change anything in this case. I guess your best bet is trying to put the sim card into another phone and set the SMSC number on that phone then plug it back into your GNex. I used an old blackberry
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Yeah, might be borrowing my mums Nokia at this rate lol Did you find if you tried to copy and paste numbers into the smsc area it caused a force close for 'phone'?
I did come across http://smsclist.com/downloads/default.txt which looks pretty handy to have around
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The Gingerbread Man said:
Yeah, might be borrowing my mums Nokia at this rate lol Did you find if you tried to copy and paste numbers into the smsc area it caused a force close for 'phone'?
I did come across http://smsclist.com/downloads/default.txt which looks pretty handy to have around
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Force close for phone as in the app?

3bs11 said:
Force close for phone as in the app?
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Yeah haha I'm sorted now anyway thanks for your help, I can finally send messages again but had to set the message centre on my mums phone lol I'm relieved!
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The Gingerbread Man said:
Yeah haha I'm sorted now anyway thanks for your help, I can finally send messages again but had to set the message centre on my mums phone lol I'm relieved!
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Glad to see it worked. I actually went back to stock and rooted again and flashed AOKP and all that just to fix this and then realised all that wasn't necessary lol. I wonder if everyone switching to WCDMA only is having this issue or just us?

3bs11 said:
Glad to see it worked. I actually went back to stock and rooted again and flashed AOKP and all that just to fix this and then realised all that wasn't necessary lol. I wonder if everyone switching to WCDMA only is having this issue or just us?
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Gutted! Mine doesnt want to stick with WCDMA but I'm happier with my phone fully working again. I hope no one else gets this and I'm grateful for your help. I never had this particular problem before and I'm glad I know how to sort it next time if needs be
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SMSC update
for refenrece about the above problem updating the SMSC i found this link
http://community.windmobile.ca/windmobile/topics/nexus_s_smsc_advanced_menu_options
its for the nexus s, but it works also on our galaxy nexus
so basically with our nexus (also other samsung i guess) through the advanced menu *#*#4636#*#*, u can update the SMSC only putting the encoded value like described in the link above
also the important things are the 2 buttons near the SMSC field:
- the first on the left (nearest the field) mean refresh: basically should load ur actual SMSC (sometimes don't work)
- the second on the right (far from the filed) mean update: so it change ur SMCS with the actual value on the field..so be carefully if the field is empty
(in my language the translation of those button are wrong, and both have the same label..thats why im explaining it )
anyway i suggest to don't play with the *#*#4636#*#* menu at all, unless u have problems
hope this helps some future users

I need help. Im in the US on AT&T. Im having the same problem sending sms. I can receive them but just cant send them. I think i messed up my smsc. Messing around with*#*#4636#*#*.I dont know what to do. Im running stock rom. Can somebody help me and tell what number need to put in. Im kinda lost. Gsm galaxy nexus in the use on ATT

Geng ....

HELP PLEASE! Do I need to root when I have phone network connection problems

I Just received my HTC incredible 2 phone from Ebay, it was supposed to be unlocked and with a 16G Micro SD. Well I didn't get the SD and the phone seems to be locked. I bought a unlock code but the phone does not even give me a chance to put the numbers in. I like the phone and like the HTC sense, if I rooted it I would want the same set up but without the Verison crap!
This is what happens.
1st on start up it asks for my pin code to the sim
2nd The Pop up "sim card is not vailid please insert a Verison sim cad"
3rd Then the pop up "Change Mode No network found select global" I enter (yes)
When I go into Wirless networks/ mobile networks/prefferd network
I select GSM/UMTS mode, then select GSM only. It Pops up "Sim Lock can not use phone unless for emergency only.
During the time it wants to defaul to CDMA and does come up with the pop up asking to change to Global Mode.
I live in Costa Rica and there are three carriers.
My questions are:
1.) Do i need to root?
2.) Can I install the HTC sense apps and software with out the Verison.
3.) Is there a work around for this with out rooting?
Again it seems like a great phone and I want to use this to the fullest functions.

This is the original Incredible. The Incredible 2 forums are further down in the list.
I don't think rooting will help with network related issues though but for device specific help you should check out the incredible 2 forums.

No network issue after repair

Hi there,
I recently sent my phone back to HTC because my volume button was stuck, which resulted in it not being able to boot (as it always went straight to recovery). They repaired it, and after three weeks without my phone I know received it back. They 'replaced parts and did a software update.'
Problem is, now I have no mobile network connection. The phone recognises the SIM fine, but no signal and search networks results in "Error while searching for networks."
I'm blaming the software update HTC did, so I send them another email. The thing is, I don't want to send it back AGAIN, I had the phone a full 2 weeks before it broke and haven't been able to use it since. Is there anything you guys can think of that doesn't involve rooting it and losing my warranty (which I will probably need now)?
Thanks a bunch

Hello,
have you tried to switch between the network mode; only WCDMA or only GSM? (Settings->Mobile Network->Network Mode)

Pundy said:
Hello,
have you tried to switch between the network mode; only WCDMA or only GSM? (Settings->Mobile Network->Network Mode)
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Thanks for the reply. Yes I have, no effect. One other weird thing I have noticed since first posting: at the about -> Phone Identity screen, the phone number does not match my actual sim phone number. It reads the SIM fine though, as all my SIM contacts are available.

Could you use/try another SIM Card to check its work with a different one?
Is WiFi working? Any interruptions druing a regular call?

Pundy said:
Could you use/try another SIM Card to check its work with a different one?
Is WiFi working? Any interruptions druing a regular call?
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Regular call is impossible, as I have no cellular network at all. Wifi works fine. I am currently unable to try another SIM, as I'd have to cut a microsim out of a regular one and people around don't want to have their card cut up.
The sim works fine in my old nokia though, so I don't think that's the issue.
I'll try to find a friend with an iPhone 4 to try their microsim, but I'm not really counting on it.

Switching between gsm and cdma software?

hmm.. I dunno what happened but I've now knocked both my gsm providers down somehow + Verizon isn't starting with sim in?
I don't have a IMEI in about > status I don't have a verizion hex in there either.. the mode I'm "trying" to run is GSM / WCDMA preferred or global
Can someone explain to me how to switch between the two..? Boz1 told me it was possible and yet.. my radio is now playing dead even with my airvoice/at&t line.. (I'm assuming if I pull out the sim it'll work on Verizon again and it did!) but I want to get it where I can switch between Verizon and one gsm provider through software.. (no reboot)
I have active service at this time with tmobile/lyca, at&t/airvoice and verizion/page plus
I'm currently using cyagenmod 7.2

theemaster said:
hmm.. I dunno what happened but I've now knocked both my gsm providers down somehow + Verizon isn't starting with sim in?
I don't have a IMEI in about > status I don't have a verizion hex in there either.. the mode I'm "trying" to run is GSM / WCDMA preferred or global
Can someone explain to me how to switch between the two..? Boz1 told me it was possible and yet.. my radio is now playing dead even with my airvoice/at&t line.. (I'm assuming if I pull out the sim it'll work on Verizon again and it did!) but I want to get it where I can switch between Verizon and one gsm provider through software.. (no reboot)
I have active service at this time with tmobile/lyca, at&t/airvoice and verizion/page plus
I'm currently using cyagenmod 7.2
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dial *#*#4636#*#* and go to phone information there select prefered mode to what ever you want

ArslanQureshi said:
dial *#*#4636#*#* and go to phone information there select prefered mode to what ever you want
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thanks I looked at that before.. but now I see you "scroll down" still I don't seem to be figuring it out.. I keep hitting no service..
(least with gsm) I have to wonder if it's cause my IEME is blank or something?
Also is there a way to auto-dial the number if I'm going to have to do it every time?