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Reasons to get ZL over HTC ONE

I am debating between the two but have not held either in my hand. Which is better?

Not too many reasons, but some good ones IMO.
Reasons to get ZL over the One
5" screen vs 4.7" (ZL's screen quality is not as good though)
Expandable storage (if that matters to you)
The ZL will show damage much less than the HTC One will if accidentally dropped (the body of the phone anyway)
ZL is available right now

i have zl,and im happy with it,got many praise from my friend about the phone form factor,btw here some advantage/disadvantage over one that i think:
advantage :
SD CARD SLOT - can expend up to 64 gb
BATTERY RESET BUTTON - not sure if one have it
(it matter for rom flasher like me,even though we cannot remove battery but we can reset it,the button located besides sim/sdcard slot)
STOCK LOOKING ROM ( i like the zl clean ui)
HEARPHONE PROVIDED - nice one out of the box
NFC SMART TAG SUPPORT - i have test one already and it work
LARGER PHONE MEGAPIXEL-i think it matter,with bravia engine 2,it make photo more contrast,tough the sensor take time to focus
SMALL APPS - you can use apps like note,calculator,music,etc in popup version,1 apps per time though.
SUPPORT USB OTG- i have test it
ROOTABLE AND UNLOCKABLE- easy since i already familiar with flashtool,but i stay on stock rom for now
FIT IN POCKET 5' DISPLAY- size almost similar with 4.7' SIII
STAMINA MODE - i can see a little different when using stamina mode,even tough it can only last for 1 day for moderate use
SHUTTER KEY- 2 times press,1st time to focus,second time to capture (only sony previous user know how to take advantage of it)
RARE!!! - it feels premium than normal siii n note 2 however,i hardly find flip cover/hardcase until now (it only one week released here,lol)
3 SOFT KEY- like nexus device,unlike htc one only 2 key
AVAILABLE NOW!!!
disadvantage:
OLDER PROCESSOR - does not matter to me,multitasking so smooth with 2gb ram,no need to clean up ram
LOUDSPEAKER- its clear that one have better stereo sound,but xzl loudspeaker not so bad either,well i prefer to use hearphone
CAMERA- its take sometimes to load for 1st time,about 2-3 sec,but when it on memory,it launch in the blink of the eye
SCREEN CONTRAST - i think it ok for my daily use,still visible in strong sunlight and it also have auto contrast
ANDROID VERSION- still waiting for 4.2 update,as we know sony take some time to update it,but by the time htc one globally available we should get the update,so chill
# im happy with xzl and take note that sony more friendly with developer than other manufacture,so more custom rom might come later,hopefully

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I am debating bescratcheshe two but have not held either in my hand. Which is better?
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Reasons to get ZL over One imo :
- Bigger screen on a smaller chassis. Better screen head on (although not as good viewing angles).
- Better camera overall (except in very dark conditions)
- External sd card slot (readily supports 64gb micro SdXC).
- Better ergonomics (compact, better grip, doesn't get dirty easily).
- Less prone to scratches/daily wear n tear (no need for a case).
- Better UI (cleaner look close to nexus).
P.S. There is a lot of info regarding these two here at xda, just search. Actually, it's you who has to decide what you like/want more in a phone.

Which one is 'Better' is purely subjective. Just because ZL got MicroSD it doesn't mean it's better than One because the latter got bigger internal memory to compensate.
I bought my ZL over anything else in the market because of few reason:
- textured matte back for easy grip and ergonomics, so I don't have to use thick case for it
- smallest 5" body phone so its very pocketable, I don't feel much difference compared to Atrix 2
- mechanical two stage dedicated camera shutter button which is very handy
- simple UI, I'm not the kind of person who are too attached to social networking site so buying Blinkfeed in One would annoy me, I don't even have data plan on my phone
- screen calibration in Settings to make the color more neutral
If I were you, if possible, go to shop and test in hands on. And buy one from there. When you feel it in your hand you will definitely know which one will suit you best :good:

Dat bezel on the One alone is reason enough not to buy it as far as I am concerned

I would add the fact that Sony supports the development community and HtC does not. Right now, for a developer is either a Nexus, Z or ZL.
Sendt fra min ZL 6506

[Q] Should I buy the ZL?

I'm really torn.
I currently have the HTC One S and really love the form factor and build.
The issues that really make me want to upgrade include: No expandable memory or removable battery, smallish screen, mediocre screen res and pentile (although it is bright and has good coloration), outdated resources - especially the 1 GB Ram, and useless notification light.
The other piece of info is that I am using Simple Mobile.
The ZL seems to take care of all of the above (except the battery), but does it do it by enough to justify a full price purchase?
1) While it can take an sd card, (I think) it is is limited to 32GB and has only 16 GB built in. The HTC One Dev Ed has 64 GB (best) and the S4 has 16 or 32 and can take a 64.
2) While the ZL has a 5" 1080p, it loses some real estate from the onscreen buttons and the washout at angles (I saw it firsthand at the Sony Store), while the One & S4 seem to have amazing screens (each in their own way - super lcd vs amoled)
3) In the resource department, the 600 or Octa don't seem to be significant upgrades to the S4 Pro and all 3 blow away the One s. (Antutu: One S = 10,644, ZL = 20,743. The One & S4 are 2-4k higher).
4) Notification Light - ZL by far.
And yet, it just seems like Sony did a lot of things mediocre on the ZL (by current flagship standards).
The screen already mentioned.
Battery Life.
The reviews are hard on the ZL's camera also. One interesting negative I came across is that it only takes 1 mp stills during video.
I'm not crazy about the onscreen buttons. Are there mods to make more use of them i.e. NavBar/NavRings? Has anyone tried using an app like Swipe Pad with them?
Can the toggles in the Notification Panel be removed? I'd rather use something like Elixir or Widgetzoid.
What I really like:
The price! I'm seeing the 6502 as low $515 no tax and 6506 $540, while the S4 or One would be more like $700 or more after tax.
The Power Button placement and the physical camera button (the One's placement on top is really unacceptable).
Lack of Carrier bloatware and yet fully compatible with both AT&T and T-Mobile.
The sound and screen enhancements and tweakability (Bravia, White Balance, xLoud, etc.)
And some more questions:
How is the rear speaker for music and in calls compared to the S4? The Note 2? By it's placement and the way the camera comes out a little it looks like it might have the "N8 effect" on a hard surface.
How is call quality on T-mobile?
Will the camera work better/differently on CM or in stock using something like Camera Zoom fx?
Thanks a lot in advance. I've spent many hours doing research, saw all the phones in person at the stores, etc. but it's such a large purchase so I'd really appreciate the feedback!

ymmp said:
I'm really torn.
I currently have the HTC One S and really love the form factor and build.
The issues that really make me want to upgrade include: No expandable memory or removable battery, smallish screen, mediocre screen res and pentile (although it is bright and has good coloration), outdated resources - especially the 1 GB Ram, and useless notification light.
The other piece of info is that I am using Simple Mobile.
The ZL seems to take care of all of the above (except the battery), but does it do it by enough to justify a full price purchase?
1) While it can take an sd card, (I think) it is is limited to 32GB and has only 16 GB built in. The HTC One Dev Ed has 64 GB (best) and the S4 has 16 or 32 and can take a 64.
2) While the ZL has a 5" 1080p, it loses some real estate from the onscreen buttons and the washout at angles (I saw it firsthand at the Sony Store), while the One & S4 seem to have amazing screens (each in their own way - super lcd vs amoled)
3) In the resource department, the 600 or Octa don't seem to be significant upgrades to the S4 Pro and all 3 blow away the One s. (Antutu: One S = 10,644, ZL = 20,743. The One & S4 are 2-4k higher).
4) Notification Light - ZL by far.
And yet, it just seems like Sony did a lot of things mediocre on the ZL (by current flagship standards).
The screen already mentioned.
Battery Life.
The reviews are hard on the ZL's camera also. One interesting negative I came across is that it only takes 1 mp stills during video.
I'm not crazy about the onscreen buttons. Are there mods to make more use of them i.e. NavBar/NavRings? Has anyone tried using an app like Swipe Pad with them?
Can the toggles in the Notification Panel be removed? I'd rather use something like Elixir or Widgetzoid.
What I really like:
The price! I'm seeing the 6502 as low $515 no tax and 6506 $540, while the S4 or One would be more like $700 or more after tax.
The Power Button placement and the physical camera button (the One's placement on top is really unacceptable).
Lack of Carrier bloatware and yet fully compatible with both AT&T and T-Mobile.
The sound and screen enhancements and tweakability (Bravia, White Balance, xLoud, etc.)
And some more questions:
How is the rear speaker for music and in calls compared to the S4? The Note 2? By it's placement and the way the camera comes out a little it looks like it might have the "N8 effect" on a hard surface.
How is call quality on T-mobile?
Will the camera work better/differently on CM or in stock using something like Camera Zoom fx?
Thanks a lot in advance. I've spent many hours doing research, saw all the phones in person at the stores, etc. but it's such a large purchase so I'd really appreciate the feedback!
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I have the ZL and am using a 64GB SD card with no problems being recognized. Also I've had an iphone 5, htc one for a week and the ZL's battery is better, way better than the htc one and a little better than the iphone 5. Actually really impressed with battery life for a 5" screen that is 1080P. As far as the screen being washed out at an angle that's true but useless criticism as far as i'm concerned. The only time I can see it washed out is when it is at an angle i would NEVER use it. Looking right at the screen for normal use it's as good as any phone out there, HTC one included. As far as the onscreen buttons, I wouldn't have it any other way, its the way android was designed anyway. When I had the htc one for a week the buttons on there just sucked (and why they went from 3 to 2 buttons i have no idea, stupid decision). It takes 2-4 presses usually to get them to work, not that way with the onscreen buttons. I have no regrets on getting this phone.

All I can say, coming from a droid 3:
- The screen is awesome.. personally the viewing angles dont bother me at all since I use it from front angle
- Yes the screen uses a lot of power, but it also did on my droid 3 and that screen sucked major ass. Also, the idle time is the best I've seen on any recent smartphone. With wifi I can stay a fixed percentage for 2 hours easy. When you use it it will drop reasonably fast but it's OK because you still have 95% when you start watching a movie I always can go through 1 day.
- It's super fast. 2GB is awesome
- The camera is supposedly getting better with every update

DoubleYouPee said:
All I can say, coming from a droid 3:
- The screen is awesome.. personally the viewing angles dont bother me at all since I use it from front angle
- Yes the screen uses a lot of power, but it also did on my droid 3 and that screen sucked major ass. Also, the idle time is the best I've seen on any recent smartphone. With wifi I can stay a fixed percentage for 2 hours easy. When you use it it will drop reasonably fast but it's OK because you still have 95% when you start watching a movie I always can go through 1 day.
- It's super fast. 2GB is awesome
- The camera is supposedly getting better with every update
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The thing I like, I have a Galaxy S2-i9100 and use it with a otterbox case, the ZL with a simple clear case is as 'small' as my S2 in the otterbox.
and it feels real solid. I still have to hack it. but all in all it seems to be a very good phone...
Make sure you switch on the Stamina mode for the battery...
Video on this is crystal clear... have not toyed with the camera...
I hope Sony comes with AOSP for the ZL...
Ans 64GB SD should work... on most devices... folks prefer to format it exFAT which may not be supported on some custom roms but factory images definitely support it.
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Is this the right phone to get?

For those of you that have this phone, and have had it since close to it's release date, what are your opinions?
I am going to be purchasing a new phone, for use with WindMobile in Canada (i.e. it must be an AWS phone). As far as I can tell this is my best option because I use my phone mostly as a camera so my #1 interest is a camera that does not lag and will open quickly. I also am a fairly heavy user for NUMBER of apps. I have a lot installed and switch between them frequently. I don't play games or watch videos so graphics don't matter much.
The kicker here is I am REALLY hoping to keep this phone for 2 years at least. Do you think that this phone will last? Keeping in mind I don't care about being behind on new technology. I only care that it can handle my volume of use and won't sputter and choke to a slow after 6 months use like the one I have now.
I currently have an Optimus 2X but it is dying. It lags incredibly between tasks and the plastic covering the camera is poor quality and I had to rip it off so the lens is mostly unprotected now. I don't want to deal with stuff like this is I am going to buy a brand new phone. Do you think the Xperia ZL is the right choice?
p.s. I saw a review of the camera where the reviewer said that the photos look great on the BRAVIA screen but once on a computer screen are not very good. Has this been your experience? What about printing?
p.p.s. would appreciate comments about how rugged it is also as I work as a nanny with two 24 month old toddlers. Honestly I want the Z due to it's waterproof encasing but it's not sold new up here in Canada.

so my #1 interest is a camera that does not lag and will open quickly.
--> camera itself is the fastest I've seen. First thing you notice is the super smooth and responsive viewfinder.. even in low light. It always feels 60fps. I compared this to HTC ONE and it's a LOT slower..really.
About opening.. opening of the camera app isn't fastest i've seen (can take 3 secs) but because of the dedicated button you can still open it way faster than phones without button.
I also am a fairly heavy user for NUMBER of apps. I have a lot installed and switch between them frequently. I don't play games or watch videos so graphics don't matter much.
--> Ye as with all 2GB phones multitasking is almost instant and apps never really close.
The kicker here is I am REALLY hoping to keep this phone for 2 years at least. Do you think that this phone will last? Keeping in mind I don't care about being behind on new technology.
Then yes. I don't see why this phone wouldn't make it 2 years.
I only care that it can handle my volume of use and won't sputter and choke to a slow after 6 months use like the one I have now.
With 2GB ram it's pretty future proof IMO.
p.s. I saw a review of the camera where the reviewer said that the photos look great on the BRAVIA screen but once on a computer screen are not very good. Has this been your experience? What about printing?
Well, in my opinion, pictures look suberb on the 5" with bravia engine 2..really gives a wow-factor.
When you then watch them on the PC they look kinda normal/bland/boring..so its just the way you look at it
p.p.s. would appreciate comments about how rugged it is also as I work as a nanny with two 24 month old toddlers. Honestly I want the Z due to it's waterproof encasing but it's not sold new up here in Canada.
The back isn't made from glass but very grippy texture. I haven't dropped mine but the phones feels very sturdy and good quality, except for maybe the little flap on the back for sim/SD.
Honestly I think ZL is very underrated and still (even with new models like Z1) ZL is still my favorite.

Thanks for your quick quick reply!! One clarification I have to ask: I understand what you mean about quality depending on the screen. However when you look on your computer do you think the quality fits the price? Let's put this simply: I am tired of my boyfriend's iphone photos looking SOOOO much better than mine. Can I at least compete now? lol

earthabbey said:
Thanks for your quick quick reply!! One clarification I have to ask: I understand what you mean about quality depending on the screen. However when you look on your computer do you think the quality fits the price? Let's put this simply: I am tired of my boyfriend's iphone photos looking SOOOO much better than mine. Can I at least compete now? lol
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To be honest I really like the camera but the software app just doesn't do it justice. Pictures looked a bit washed out when looked at the computer. You can still install another camera app with less compression effects.
Also, for me the camera opens very quickly, less than 1 second with the latest 267 firmware update.
The phone looks gorgeous with the incredibly small bezel for a 5 inch phone. But if you want an awesome camera phone you really should go with the Galaxy S4. Still the best midrange camera phone I've seen so far is clearly the Nokia Lumia 920 but its a Win8 phone... both phone can be easily unlocked if not offered by Wind and are AWS versions.
Also, lots of people complain about the screen being TFT which is the cheapest technology you can use for a phone nowadays. So the viewing angles aren't good but I personally don't care much. But I think you will notice it right away.
Still, for a lot of other aspects, I prefer the Sony ZL

earthabbey said:
p.p.s. would appreciate comments about how rugged it is also as I work as a nanny with two 24 month old toddlers. Honestly I want the Z due to it's waterproof encasing but it's not sold new up here in Canada.
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the Z is available through Bell FYI.

I just traded it my s3 for an zl very disappointed in camera in dark places there is a ton of noise I have to also take multiple snaps before I can get a shot to have a properly focused pic if I use flash it works fine but using superior auto mode and in a well lit room it still doesn't compare anything to the s3 which had a very quick focus but other then that the phone is well worth it will last you 2 years if you do not abuse it only thing im concerned is the non removable battery... wonder how will it perform in 2 years from now....
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I just traded it my s3 for an zl very disappointed in camera in dark places there is a ton of noise I have to also take multiple snaps before I can get a shot to have a properly focused pic if I use flash it works fine but using superior auto mode and in a well lit room it still doesn't compare anything to the s3 which had a very quick focus but other then that the phone is well worth it will last you 2 years if you do not abuse it only thing im concerned is the non removable battery... wonder how will it perform in 2 years from now....
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Do you have the latest update? A lot of reviews I saw said that there were a lot of problems before the latest update.

shahkam said:
I just traded it my s3 for an zl very disappointed in camera in dark places there is a ton of noise I have to also take multiple snaps before I can get a shot to have a properly focused pic if I use flash it works fine but using superior auto mode and in a well lit room it still doesn't compare anything to the s3 which had a very quick focus but other then that the phone is well worth it will last you 2 years if you do not abuse it only thing im concerned is the non removable battery... wonder how will it perform in 2 years from now....
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Don't use superior auto by default, it adds way too much noise. Try using normal with some basic tweaks, you will see a major difference.
Especially with the latest update.
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Well I kind of have the same problem. Own an Optimus 2x and now ordered Zl from an amazon offer (350 euros). I love the white version since - if the black back looks cheap - this is absolutely not the case with the white.
However, I am quite disappointed by the screen. You notice the viewing angles immediately and every time the phone is lying on a table in a darker room, it looks like it is showing a bright Grey picture although background is black. So I wanted to return it.
Then I thought of alternatives, but very successful.. I am looking for a phone with no amoled screen, wo no s4. I really want at least 32gb memory and would be happy if it had a working fm radio like XZL (tried Optimus G and thought that must be a bad joke). The Optimus G was nice, but fm radio crap, and due to non expendable storage, I was really missing USB otg. S4 active would be nice, but no fm radio, feels somehow big and is very overpriced. The new nexus 5 seems to only have 16gb.. LG G2 is very expensive with 32gb. And none of them has a dedicated camera button. So I guess xperia zl is a great package! If only they had included a IPS screen (which can be considered as standard today, even for cheap phones).
Today I looked at the screen in a bright room and then it looked way better than yesterday night when it was dark. So I am thinking of keeping the phone - seems like the package is quite good. Or does anyone of you habe a proposal?
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My comments:
The poor viewing angles on the screen aren't as horrible as people make it out to be, the screen is still perfectly good and quite a joy to look at. (plus if you like to be private then it stops people from seeing what you're doing easily)
Picture quality is fine, I have an unlocked bootloader(which I did before TA backups were a thing ;_ and even still everything looks great on the screen. Video quality is pretty good in my opinion. In low light, yes the picture quality does tend to suffer but it's still acceptable for it being a phone, I personally haven't tried tweaking with the settings much besides installing the Z1 camera app port.
If you want to see the quality yourself, here are some photos/videos(mind you the outdoor greenery shots were taken a while ago so the latest updates might have improved things):
http://imgur.com/a/qoqg2#0
http://youtu.be/SXxN14HdeGU
Performance has been pretty good, there are a few things I've noticed which can make it a little laggy, like setting a smaller icon size in Apex and the app Twilight can make scrolling a little laggy, but otherwise performance is snappy.
Something that might be of concern is battery life, due to the non-removeable battery. I can usually get through a day before having to charge. I get about 4-5 hours of video watching, so if I only use the screen for a few hours sporadically(15 minutes here, 15 minutes there) then I can usually push it to 24 hours.
One thing I would really suggest is getting at least a decent screen cover, if not case as well, I have one of those meifeng cases from ebay, it's decent enough quality and it's pretty thin, I don't use it every day though. But the built in screen protector is an absolute lint electromagnet, it's like it's sole purpose was to collect lint, not cool. I picked up a skinomi screen protector, just put it on top of the built in one and it works/looks fine.
One thing I like about the skinomi is that it's slightly soft, so it doesn't scratch easily, but it still a good surface for fingering.
The speaker isn't loud enough to be heard over a concert or some power tools, but if you're just at home or in the car then it's quite adequate, the headphone out is also adequate, though it can be a tad quieter than some might like, depending on headphones used.
The microphones are pretty great, that youtube video? The music in person was ear-screeching, yet somehow the microphones managed to pick everything else up pretty well.
The IR Blaster is fun if you normally use multiple remotes for your home.
I can't really think of anything else at the moment, but feel free to ask and I'll try to answer.
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Shadowman19: Personally I find the viewing angles acceptable knowing that I'm probably never really going to be looking at my phone from these angles anyways, 99% of the time I'm looking at it is straight on.

Personally I don't own a ZL(I currently own an Ion), but i have seen a couple of Z's(the Z screen is similar to the ZL). Honestly, I don't see the difference when tilting the phone(I can definitely see it on my ion). The poor viewing angle claims are exaggerated.

Honest opinion about the T2?

I plan to get this for my dad, who is currently using a Windows Phone Lumia 720. He is pretty happy with it per say, but he misses his Xperia X10..
I will be brutally honest, that Android phones arent as smooth as WP. But again, WP have a serious dearth of Apps that Android doesn't. One of the main reasons I am rethinking of getting dad back on Android.
The only thing he can't bear is a slow phone...He is retired and spends 90% of his day on his cell phone. Messaging on WHatsApp, Hike, Facebook and Twitter.
And yes, he was also an avid photographer in the past. So a good camera will be an added advantage.
What do you honestly think about the T2 Ultra. Since it's a 6" display, he can easily read and surf the net on it.
I would love to hear honest opinions about it.
Though I am into rooting and modding devices, I will stick to stock on this one...
On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate t2 Ultra's performance, speed, usability (6" screen) and built quality?
Thanks for reading and replying.

in my opinion this phone is good,with the 13mp primary camera it can shoot a good photo...
and the performance is good...but with root it will be more smoother than before...
furthermore,its good for gaming beacuse the 6'' display...but its a bit slippy that i have to be more careful with it...

X0LARIUM said:
I plan to get this for my dad, who is currently using a Windows Phone Lumia 720. He is pretty happy with it per say, but he misses his Xperia X10..
I will be brutally honest, that Android phones arent as smooth as WP. But again, WP have a serious dearth of Apps that Android doesn't. One of the main reasons I am rethinking of getting dad back on Android.
The only thing he can't bear is a slow phone...He is retired and spends 90% of his day on his cell phone. Messaging on WHatsApp, Hike, Facebook and Twitter.
And yes, he was also an avid photographer in the past. So a good camera will be an added advantage.
What do you honestly think about the T2 Ultra. Since it's a 6" display, he can easily read and surf the net on it.
I would love to hear honest opinions about it.
Though I am into rooting and modding devices, I will stick to stock on this one...
On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate t2 Ultra's performance, speed, usability (6" screen) and built quality?
Thanks for reading and replying.
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Bro, the camera isnt good in this phone, i personally use this and found the camera experience unsatisfying. There are a lot pixels visible in the pics, color reproduction isnt accurate, and its takes plenty of time for taking one pic, considering its a quad core, it shud have been much faster.
The pros of this phone are the screen size and battery backup.
This is my honest opinion.

AndroMAN said:
Bro, the camera isnt good in this phone, i personally use this and found the camera experience unsatisfying. There are a lot pixels visible in the pics, color reproduction isnt accurate, and its takes plenty of time for taking one pic, considering its a quad core, it shud have been much faster.
The pros of this phone are the screen size and battery backup.
This is my honest opinion.
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in my opinion this phone is good,with the 13mp primary camera it can shoot a good photo...
and the performance is good...but with root it will be more smoother than before...
furthermore,its good for gaming beacuse the 6'' display...but its a bit slippy that i have to be more careful with it...
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thanks a lot both you guys for the reply..

A nice phone but, camera is unsatisfying, i have 8MP phone beter than this.

opimion
Honestly saying you should have it it has big screen good processor and GPU
it's an all in one package and ya it has a good camera too..

coming from note 2,its has an awesome battery backup, screen and killer looks, but camera is one of the worst I ever used plus 1 gb ram is another issue, sometimes even my keyboard dsnt pop up in browser coz all the ram has been eaten.... go for lg pro 2 instead some sellers are selling it for 28k

Thanks people...I'm listening
Auto-coded on my DROID RaZR!

Here's what I gotta say :
Pros
- Awesome screen size, display quality.
- The ram may be 1gb, but its more or less lag free.
- The camera is pretty awesome in natural lighting conditions.
- Battery life.
- It looks pretty good too.
Cons
- Loudspeaker volume is low.
- Camera doesn't perform that well in artificial lighting conditions. The zoom is a bit problematic too.
- It will feel a little uncomfortable to hold for a few days, because of its size, but after a few days, it'll feel normal.
If you think size and display matter, go for this phone, or you could consider the moto x.
Hope I helped.
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I'm coming from Lumia 630, I do missed its ease of use and smoothness but I finally settled to this phone.
I'm looking for a dual Sim device first and foremost, so battery life is a priority even though I yearn for a big screen experience. I bought Asus Zenfone 5 about 2 weeks ago, and the whole android experience is being let down by awful hardware. Very weak GPS, weak WiFi, weak GSM signal, crazy battery life that doesn't even hold a charge for half a day because the device is scrambling for every wireless protocols. Switching to Xperia T2 Ultra isn't as easy for me too... In my country, Sony is notoriously known for very bad after sales service, plus this phone is double the price of the Zenfone 5. I bought it new because nobody is selling it used (the phone isn't exactly a seller).
I had doubts, I kept every bit of plastic covering intact, just in case the phone doesn't work as intended, I'm going to sell it again.
Lo and behold... Strong WiFi signal, quick connecting GPS, stable GSM signal on both SIMs, and the strong battery life makes me extremely happy with my purchase. The big screen might have lower pixel per inch compared to the Zenfone 5, but you won't notice it that much. The media is overblowing the PPI thing, they are accustomed to seeing high end devices screen, but for commoners like us, unless it's very extreme, we won't notice the difference. After the KitKat update, I torture test the device, playing whatever games, go back home, open the browser, Google docs, taking pictures, while Facebook (no messenger) and whatsapp pinging in the background. Some hiccups, but nothing crashing. The games occasionally restart though, due to limited memory, so you might want to limit it to casuals or save a lot when switching apps.
There is one peculiar app that crashed one time, and it's Sony socialife app. I never opened it, but I got a warning the app crashed, might be a background process.
The camera on this phone is disappointing, I could've swore my old Xperia Arc took better picture. Prepare for an overly aggressive image sharpening and slight discoloration. I really don't know why Sony's smartphones cameras are now subpar, up to Xperia S (my last Sony phone before T2), the image was clear and crisp. Might be T2 Ultra is a mainstream high end I mustn't expect much, but when a 3 year old camera phone can do it better, something amiss.
The phone size is just right, I tried Z Ultra before and to me it's a bit too big. I can still put it inside my pants side pocket with ease and can handle it with one hand just fine.
Since my T2 ultra is the dual Sim version, the KitKat update lower the processor speed to 1.2 GHz. Well, at least it's still a quad core and I didn't notice significant slow down on daily usage.
I'm not a power user by far, and so far I only change wallpaper and have Google now and calendar widget with organized icons on my home screen.
Just curious, why didn't you get the Z Ultra for your dad? If you don't need the dual Sim, the Z ultra can be had for a little more than the T2 ultra. In my country, I can get the Z ultra for US $70 more, with free powerbank and free case. Minus the LED flash and the size, everything is better. I need the dual Sim in my case.

Guys guys guys! Just want to thank everyone who bothered to come here and wrote what they felt like!
I am so glad you guys are helping me...
While I am 99% sure I want to get him a T2U, one thing stopping me is the size.
He wants to get it cause he once had a Xperia phone and I sold it cause I wanted to buy me a new phone (stupid and selfish me!). But Now, the best of the lot, in terms of size, spec, price IS the t2U...
I will be grateful for anyone else who thinks they can chime in...
Thanks again to all the wonderful people who replied!

How is your dad doing with the T2 Ultra? I've owned the phone for about 6 months and I'm hating it, it's so slow that I prefer going to my computer to do even basic stuff, such as browsing the web.

Honestly speaking if u buy this phone use it without root or custom things than this phone is great deal
+ battery backup is very good
+topnotch performance
+good display
- Shutter lag (take too much time in taking photos sometime)
-No vivid images like Samsung(there will we no vivid colour in your photos)
-Front camera is bad
-No 4k and real 120 fps video..
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bchangip said:
How is your dad doing with the T2 Ultra? I've owned the phone for about 6 months and I'm hating it, it's so slow that I prefer going to my computer to do even basic stuff, such as browsing the web.
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Bro I think u did something wrong with your phone my phone never hang.. Never means never. Do a factory reset and disable or unintall unused apps.. I am sure u will get good performance like me and last always get your app up to daye from play to get optimum performance.. From apps.. And use official softwares. And updated version of firmwares

My opinion
my experience
Good-
1)Display is great.loved watching Movies,playing games.etc
2)Performance is great even if it has only 1 Gb. It lags very less
3)camera is very very nice in naturally bright conditions.
4)I do lots of basic things on my phone never need of my pc to start.
5)Seriously Battery backup is awesome. I am using this phone by 1 year and some months now and i still get same battery backup.
6)Most important thing to me Android version.so as u know it has lollipop version.so i am loving it.
-Bad-
1)camera is bad in low bright condition.
2)front camera is worst
3)sometimes it doesnt even show keyboard . i experienced this problem in only 1 app.(clash of clans game)
4)After rooting my android it lags more than stock.
I hope that u will get my opinion helpfull.

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I'm coming from Lumia 630, I do missed its ease of use and smoothness but I finally settled to this phone.
I'm looking for a dual Sim device first and foremost, so battery life is a priority even though I yearn for a big screen experience. I bought Asus Zenfone 5 about 2 weeks ago, and the whole android experience is being let down by awful hardware. Very weak GPS, weak WiFi, weak GSM signal, crazy battery life that doesn't even hold a charge for half a day because the device is scrambling for every wireless protocols. Switching to Xperia T2 Ultra isn't as easy for me too... In my country, Sony is notoriously known for very bad after sales service, plus this phone is double the price of the Zenfone 5. I bought it new because nobody is selling it used (the phone isn't exactly a seller).
I had doubts, I kept every bit of plastic covering intact, just in case the phone doesn't work as intended, I'm going to sell it again.
Lo and behold... Strong WiFi signal, quick connecting GPS, stable GSM signal on both SIMs, and the strong battery life makes me extremely happy with my purchase. The big screen might have lower pixel per inch compared to the Zenfone 5, but you won't notice it that much. The media is overblowing the PPI thing, they are accustomed to seeing high end devices screen, but for commoners like us, unless it's very extreme, we won't notice the difference. After the KitKat update, I torture test the device, playing whatever games, go back home, open the browser, Google docs, taking pictures, while Facebook (no messenger) and whatsapp pinging in the background. Some hiccups, but nothing crashing. The games occasionally restart though, due to limited memory, so you might want to limit it to casuals or save a lot when switching apps.
There is one peculiar app that crashed one time, and it's Sony socialife app. I never opened it, but I got a warning the app crashed, might be a background process.
The camera on this phone is disappointing, I could've swore my old Xperia Arc took better picture. Prepare for an overly aggressive image sharpening and slight discoloration. I really don't know why Sony's smartphones cameras are now subpar, up to Xperia S (my last Sony phone before T2), the image was clear and crisp. Might be T2 Ultra is a mainstream high end I mustn't expect much, but when a 3 year old camera phone can do it better, something amiss.
The phone size is just right, I tried Z Ultra before and to me it's a bit too big. I can still put it inside my pants side pocket with ease and can handle it with one hand just fine.
Since my T2 ultra is the dual Sim version, the KitKat update lower the processor speed to 1.2 GHz. Well, at least it's still a quad core and I didn't notice significant slow down on daily usage.
I'm not a power user by far, and so far I only change wallpaper and have Google now and calendar widget with organized icons on my home screen.
Just curious, why didn't you get the Z Ultra for your dad? If you don't need the dual Sim, the Z ultra can be had for a little more than the T2 ultra. In my country, I can get the Z ultra for US $70 more, with free powerbank and free case. Minus the LED flash and the size, everything is better. I need the dual Sim in my case.
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$70 for Z Ultra ? Where did you get that? Wish I could get one of those lol.. Well Z Ultra doesn't good in any aspect, the display rather disappointing and not as accurate as what Sony said about wider RGB colours and the display still using TFT and just a bit better than Xperia Z. At least it got Snapdragon 800 and 2 GB with 16 GB of internal storage.
BTW, well I just want to speak up my mind.
The phone is good but not great, you'll get okay performance but don't expect more since this is just a midrange device, one gig of RAM isn't that great tho but well it got the job done. What I hate is the software, Lollipop ruins the camera, it will be a bit greenish while you can get really scary effect from front camera after the update, still SONY doesn't update or fix it. I hope you guys could HELP to COMPLAIN so Sony could hear it and help us.
The camera is okay, beside the cold white balance, you could change it with manual mode.
[Just a TIP for people who found the camera is SLOW when it's getting dark. Go to manual and change the scene to Anti Motion Blur or Night Handheld]
Another problem is the internal, since it only has 8 GB of internal storage, installing too many apps could easily take up the space, well this can be fix with rooting and install Link2SD Pro (YOU NEED FAST MEMORY EXTERNAL). The speaker, it is not bad, it could get loud but distorted.
Well, not everything is bad about the phone, the display is good, it is bright enough but not so bright under the sunlight and the phone is rather light even it is a big phone, put a case on it wouldn't make the phone so heavy tho.
The battery is rather good for a phone with 6 inch screen, but the downside you have to wait 4 hours until it fully charged, at least you could leave it while you're sleeping.
Pros:
- Good camera
- Good display
- Okay performance
- Good battery life
- Light weight
Cons:
- Disappointing speaker
- Low internal memory
- Bad front camera

Initial impressions

So I've used mine for a couple of hours, moving from a Z3c. This is what I've noticed so far:
* Still has the annoying notification light that illuminates your room at night to tell you that your battery is fully charged... all, night, long.
* Cannot adopt SD cards as internal storage
* Comes with less bloatware than the Z3C, but it's still there.
* At 4.6" the 720 display is sharp and crisp, the colours seem bang on.
* Seems more responsive
* Comes with Swipe keyboard only
* High FPS camera looks like it's only usable in brilliant sunlight and is also a crop - have to play more with this
* Xperia transfer apps works pretty well. Have copied over my messages and some apps (some with data) from my old phone to the new with a USB cable. Although I can't seem to connect my old phone without it sucking all the power out of my new one - if I disable power delivery, nothing else works on it.
* Finger print sensor seems to work well.
* If you use a glass screen protector, you can't get it in the official dock without using a bigger bracket and some cardboard.

Can you tell me more about the Xperia transfer apps?
I need to copy some apps from my S5, and usually I use Titanium Backup, but due to the OEM stuff with the Xperia, that's out of the question.

Take a look on Play for Xperia Transfer Mobile. I don't know if it will work on other devices, but I don't see why it wouldn't. It allows you to transfer stuff directly, wifi or via a computer.
Another feature lacking:
* Remote shares
Can't seem to mount a SFTP/SSH or SMB location any more - which is really irritating.

Dashers said:
So I've used mine for a couple of hours, moving from a Z3c. This is what I've noticed so far:
* Still has the annoying notification light that illuminates your room at night to tell you that your battery is fully charged... all, night, long.
* Cannot adopt SD cards as internal storage
* Comes with less bloatware than the Z3C, but it's still there.
* At 4.6" the 720 display is sharp and crisp, the colours seem bang on.
* Seems more responsive
* Comes with Swipe keyboard only
* High FPS camera looks like it's only usable in brilliant sunlight and is also a crop - have to play more with this
* Xperia transfer apps works pretty well. Have copied over my messages and some apps (some with data) from my old phone to the new with a USB cable. Although I can't seem to connect my old phone without it sucking all the power out of my new one - if I disable power delivery, nothing else works on it.
* Finger print sensor seems to work well.
* If you use a glass screen protector, you can't get it in the official dock without using a bigger bracket and some cardboard.
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Hi. I know this is irrelevant but could you share share the stock static wallpapers and live wallpaper of your XZ1 Compact please??

Dashers said:
* Finger print sensor seems to work well.
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This needs more praise. I'm coming from the Z5C, the fingerprint sensor on the XZ1C is so much better in every aspect.
I registered my fingerprints while my hands were dry and comfortable, but the XZ1C has been able to instantly recognize them every single time so far, no matter how sweaty they were. It's also blazing fast, almost instant.
It's a really amazing experience for me, because on the Z5C, unless you have the exact same perfect condition fingers, it simply refuses to register, and often I'm forced to swipe the pattern instead.
It's a definite upgrade in this aspect.
I never used fingerprint on any other phones, don't know if this is the norm or exceptional, but regardless the XZ1C's fingerprint sensor is totally usable.

mhaha said:
This needs more praise. I'm coming from the Z5C, the fingerprint sensor on the XZ1C is so much better in every aspect.
I registered my fingerprints while my hands were dry and comfortable, but the XZ1C has been able to instantly recognize them every single time so far, no matter how sweaty they were. It's also blazing fast, almost instant.
It's a really amazing experience for me, because on the Z5C, unless you have the exact same perfect condition fingers, it simply refuses to register, and often I'm forced to swipe the pattern instead.
It's a definite upgrade in this aspect.
I never used fingerprint on any other phones, don't know if this is the norm or exceptional, but regardless the XZ1C's fingerprint sensor is totally usable.
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Sent you a PM ?

Build quality on this thing is impressive. Kinda looks and feels like an all-metal device but only the top and bottom pieces are metal.

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Is it difficult to check the lockscreen without unlocking the phone? I feel like Id hit the lockbutton to check my notifications and auto unlock it every time...double tap to wake prevented this in the past

It is very responsive - but if you really want to see your lock screen, just jab the button with the end of your finger instead the flat of it.

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Is it difficult to check the lockscreen without unlocking the phone? I feel like Id hit the lockbutton to check my notifications and auto unlock it every time...double tap to wake prevented this in the past
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TFW the fingerprint sensor works TOO well, lol
They really need to bring back double tap to wake/sleep though. I initially thought maybe they just didn't have enough time to implement it for the still relatively new Android 8.0, but then I found out that they've been excluding the feature since earlier phones which were on Android 7.x.

love the fingerprint sensor very responsive for sure, tested it before i returned the phone, it feels fast. scored over 155000 in antutu benchmark. display is brighter on the same level than the z3c feels good in the hand too. but thats it for me it was a waste of time to even consider it as my upgrade the camera is a crap. much darker then the camera in my z3c and every straght line i tried to shoot became a bend unless it was in the middle of the sensor or screen. thats it i am finished with sony for a while i had sony phones since the P1 , P990 era i was loyal had z1 (that was too big) than as soon i seen the z1 compact i went with it and loved it small waterproof powerful. had my z3c and broke it so went with z3 and z3+ after (still too big) so got a z3c again and seen the x compact (it was not IP68) so when i learned the new xz1 compact i preordered it. And it was a terrible disappointment thanks sony this is how you losing loyal customers. sony phones were mostly noticable by they excellent xmor rs cameras since android era. looks they forgot along the line how to make good mobile cameras. If this camera would be in my Roadhawk dashcam (which also using sony rs sensors) i would not even notice it. but in a flagship phone is terrible, the problem is on sony forums and sony admitted there is a hw issue, and sony customer service today just told me that there is no problem with the camera sensor there is nothing to fix or recall. well then probably i photographed a rear event of bendy lines in the carpark of CPW. I am out sad good bye to sony.

Really enjoying the phone so far, its fast, screen is great, sound quality is good on earpiece and speakers. Not done too much with the camera yet so hoping the bendy straight lines issue isn't too noticeable. The fingerprint sensor is good but odd after having the separate rear one on the nexus 5x. The form factor is good too and i don't really notice the difference in size between my old 5X (5.2 inches) and the Sony. Bloatware is not too terrible and at least you can disable it so it wont keep trying to update.
Battery life in standby is great and hoping this follows through to screen on time too now i get to really use it this week.

Received the phone today with the free $200 headphones. Overall feel of the phone is premium. It's very fast and seems like the battery will last long. However there is a distortion in the camera and bad low light performance. I also have a dust particle under the screen. I am returning it and sticking with my trusty z3 compact.
What a pity, as the phone is beautiful
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I think the Z3C felt better in my hand with the glass back. The plastic back doesn't feel like a £500 device to me. But I'd rather a plastic back to a lower spec device.
Lucky you got some fancy headphones, I couldn't find that offer in the UK. Best I could find was with the SBH24 bluetooth adapter, which is quite good. Seems to last for 8 hours at work. Audio is marred a bit with a hiss in quiet sections which isn't apparent when you connect your headphones directly to the phone.

The flashlight is pretty weak..
Still uses wierd vibration when typing* like its ramping Up ( The faster u type The stronger it vibrates)

My Z3C is tired, so I'm watching this with interest while I wait for an official Canadian release for the XZ1C. The full size is out Oct 26 here.... Hopefully I don't have to wait till Christmas.
I am hoping I get some other option besides the swype keyboard, I'm old fashioned and like my touch typing.

I had an international S8 that I sold to get this phone. I think the phone is super fast, with a level of smoothness that I'd never seen from a phone (whether 3d games or animations). I like the smaller size in my hand, being not to tall. I love the headphone jack on top of the phone.I have yet to take a picture so I have no feedback.
I think I'm going back to the S8 (950f or 950fd) though. I have a few reasons:
1. Lack of root without camera damage: I want to reverse the navigation button order (to match Samsung's). I want to disable every single help menu/introduction that pops up
2. The screen may now be too small for me as I struggle to type with swiftkey. Samsung took phone design to the next generation over the last 2 years and this phone feels outdated on the outside. It's bigger/heavier than the Z3C, which was my first Xperia
3. No LTE Video calls - This was a major reason I wanted VOLTE, to make native video calls to my wife's TMO S7

Dashers said:
I think the Z3C felt better in my hand with the glass back. The plastic back doesn't feel like a £500 device to me. But I'd rather a plastic back to a lower spec device.
Lucky you got some fancy headphones, I couldn't find that offer in the UK. Best I could find was with the SBH24 bluetooth adapter, which is quite good. Seems to last for 8 hours at work. Audio is marred a bit with a hiss in quiet sections which isn't apparent when you connect your headphones directly to the phone.
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We not even had the cpw adverted £250 worth sony bluetooth headphone. By the time i got my phone the offer disappeared from stores. nevermind it would be awkward to opt in for it when i returned the phone next morning. Lol

I have returned this phone.
Reasons:
1. The metal edge on the bottom is hurting/irritating my skin after long usage! Its simply too sharp. this is unacceptable for a compact phone.
2. Camera is not 600€ worth! Its distorted and Sony is not even announcing to make a lens correction profile in cam software.
3. The vibration motor is still ****! they have used the same **** motor already in the X compact. its loud like a bee when you press quickly on the keyboard and not the way like on xz premium or z3 compact.
For this money i have bought a S7 flat and the camera is way better. really better. it has functions that sony software never had. AE/AF lock, distortion fix, great manual mode, RAW etc.... unfortuantely its a bit too big but sorry: better big than an metal edge in my palm.

rp3 said:
I had an international S8 that I sold to get this phone. I think the phone is super fast, with a level of smoothness that I'd never seen from a phone (whether 3d games or animations). I like the smaller size in my hand, being not to tall. I love the headphone jack on top of the phone.I have yet to take a picture so I have no feedback.
I think I'm going back to the S8 (950f or 950fd) though. I have a few reasons:
1. Lack of root without camera damage: I want to reverse the navigation button order (to match Samsung's). I want to disable every single help menu/introduction that pops up
I have resolved this without root: disabling notifications for sony's apps and installing custom navigation bar (and giving permissions over adb) to reverse the button order
2. The screen may now be too small for me as I struggle to type with swiftkey. Samsung took phone design to the next generation over the last 2 years and this phone feels outdated on the outside. It's bigger/heavier than the Z3C, which was my first Xperia
This has been mitigated. I set a 480 DPI within developer's options and the swiftkey was the expected size.
3. No LTE Video calls - This was a major reason I wanted VOLTE, to make native video calls to my wife's TMO S7
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/1...oid-messages-rolling-google-supported-phones/
This is likely coming soon as Sony customizes Google's dialer.
I am closer to keeping the phone at this point (but wanting a case as I don't like the corners not being unibody.