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So it looks like I may be having a problem with CPU usage and battery drain. My Incredible 2 was fine until this morning when a market update kicked in and started running the whole phone slow, and ate the battery life to 50% within a matter of 2 hours.
I'm not sure where to start with this phone - because I haven't found an app which can give me the list of running processes which are taking the most CPU resources so I can figure out what to kill (or what to remove). Can anyone recommend some tools?
settings>applications>running services. Elixir is a good app also to show you running services. You don't want to be killing apps a lot or often though, just battery draining or memory hogging ones.
Just an fyi...the recent Pandora update to version 1.5.9 to a performance hit on both of my DInc2's. Since uninstalling, performance is back to normal.
Ok - that's good info. The thing is, I never opened Pandora or played it, but I did have a widget on one of my panels (it was never active, either). I uninstalled it, but I can't tell if I'm back to normal yet . . .
By far the best app for this is called watchdog. Amazon had it as its free app of the day a few days ago. all it does is notify you wwhen an app is using more CPU % than it should. It's not a task killer. There's a lite version as well as a full one. I highly suggest it.
And by the way, welcome to XDA!
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It looks like the process for HTC Mail is causing CPU drainage (I think it was com.htc.mail or something - I can't get it to reappear). I Force Stopped this process and amazingly, everything starts running smoother - panes switch like silk, scrolling is smooth, etc. This also appears to be what was draining the battery, as it quickly rose to the highest percentage of what was eating it.
The process gets restarted at some point because I've had to Force Stop it a few times already but at least it stays off for quite some time. So far, it's been about half a day since I had to kill it last.
The funny thing is - I can force stop it and still use all my HTC mail functions properly and they run quicker than ever.
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So i rooted my evo and installed a custom rom pretty much as soon as I had it out of the box. And then started installing apps. And i've pretty much NEVER had a fully charged battery last for a whole day even with very little to no usage of the phone.
A few days ago my friend also got an evo but hasn't rooted it or installed any apps yet. And he is easily getting TWO days or more out of a charge.
so i decided to do a full wipe of my phone, and what do you know, I'm suddenly getting 2 days out of the battery, maybe even a little more then 2 days.
Previously, i had setcpu installed as well as system panel. And i was never able to figure out what was draining the battery. When i looked in system panel the only thing that was using the cpu a little bit was system. Pretty much every other app listed was showing 0.1% of cpu usage.
So i'd like to know if there's a better method to figure out what's draining the battery. Do I have to install apps one at a time and wait a few hours/a day to see if the battery starts going down? or is there a better method?
thanks
I always check the awake time versus the time on. If the wake time is very high that means there is an app acting up.
What I'll do to investigate which app is I'll just go to the little stock battery report thing and look at what is using my battery.
Also, it should be noted that be wary of the facebook app. That thing is a complete and total battery hog. It was draining my battery from 20% over the course of an hour.
I was checking the stock battery report - it wasn't showing me anything useful when the battery was going dead.
right now i'm getting amazing battery life compared to before.
90 minutes since the phone was unplugged and it's only down to 96% and that's with me using it a bit. Previously, it would have been down to 85-80% by now.
I just have no clue at all what was causing the drain. I was hoping there was a better method other then installing apps one at a time until the battery starts draining to figure out the culprit.
There's an app called Watchdog and it monitors the background activity happening on your phone. If some seems to be getting out of hand it will notify you.
I had the same problem I installed Smobile security and it was KILLING my battery. Watchdog was able to tell what it was.
Hope this helps.
It looks like watchdog does basically the same thing that system panel does. and system panel wasn't showing me anything unusual. System panel shows the cpu usage of apps - and none of my apps were showing high cpu usage.
I guess there's really no app that can actually show you the battery usage per app - it can only show you the cpu usage.
You can try SpareParts from the Market,it may help you see if you have a wakelock issue of some kind and its free so no harm if it doesn't help.
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You can try SpareParts from the Market,it may help you see if you have a wakelock issue of some kind and its free so no harm if it doesn't help.
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actually, the rom i am using already has spareparts in it. I'm not sure what you mean by wakelock though. How do i determine that? What is it?
I'm currently on the CM7 ROM, I have juice defender and done all the minor tweaks as far as disabling wireless network location, turn off the wifi and GPS, and an app killer. I still only manage at max 9 hours before my phone tells me to recharge.
If your getting great battery life, help me and others by sharing your tips here.
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Best tip is to stay on wifi as much as possible. I got 3 days on wifi and about 4 hours use.
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I turn data off when im not using the internet and when I'm just listening to musc I just put my phone in airplane mode
Yeah, I need some help too. I get about a day and a half with no use at all, and about 10 hours with minimal use. 4 hours with real world usage... I can't deal with this. Could it be the battery? It performs like a 1 year old, used, refurb battery came with a stock phone!
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Have you configured the battery since flashing the rom?
I get decent enough battery life, with light usage I can go about 36 hours w/o a charge but on my heavy usage days I usually have to use the car charger a few times a day.
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Best tip is to stay on wifi as much as possible. I got 3 days on wifi and about 4 hours use.
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I turn data off when im not using the internet and when I'm just listening to musc I just put my phone in airplane mode
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Have you configured the battery since flashing the rom?
I get decent enough battery life, with light usage I can go about 36 hours w/o a charge but on my heavy usage days I usually have to use the car charger a few times a day.
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all of these... biggest one is to turn off data when the phone is in your pocket. use wifi when u can, avoid using 4g unless plugged in, configure the battery in recovery (i've actually notice that this helps less than anything else for me), and finally: get an extended battery. it's worth the extra hours u can squeeze out of it. don't expect more than 4-5 hours screen on time with any rom/kernel/modem combo with a stock battery.
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Have you configured the battery since flashing the rom?
I get decent enough battery life, with light usage I can go about 36 hours w/o a charge but on my heavy usage days I usually have to use the car charger a few times a day.
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Yeah I also did that wipe battery stats at recovery.
I just thought maybe my expectations were too high, although it seems as if my battery drains drop pretty fast.
I would say about -10% battery drop every hour, just checking the time and send/receive text messages. Occasionally I surf the Web on the phone when on break at work. Other than that the phone is in my pocket, and after my 9 hour workday my phone demands the charger.
This is with the stock battery, so I guess this is normal unless I'm using the extended battery?
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u could also run a kernel that allows for over (under) clocking/undervolting. that helps some, too
get the duricell portable battery extender, add milliamps to your arsinal in one way or another with extended batterys or whatever, if you call sprint and complain loudly and dickly they will rebate you the cost that u spend on a new battery or batt extender whatever... that being said all the above options work great, u can also use night mode on chainfire 3d to save battery, or perhaps half your pixel rate, or perhapes turn off some colors (havent seen an app to do this yet) and reset your battery memory in cwm, kill ur batt, charg while off, then cycle again like that. (theres an app for that) if your not rooted, root your phone. if you dont want to root your phone, cycle ur battery the old fasion way or pop it into a rooted phone and do it.
I used to get really poor battery life (due to my phone not sleeping as evidenced by Spare Parts app). I rooted, used Titanium Backup to freeze various apps, and got an Zboost antenna booster for the office and called Sprint who sent me an Airave for the house. I wiped battery stats and cleared my Dalvic cache and the thing the finally got me right was finding out the Amazon MP3 app was still logged in though not running. Once I made sure I was logged out of that and Lattitude (Google Map feature) and Facebook, I haven't had any problem with a sleeping phone. Stock Froyo, standard battery, but rooted. When they say a bad app keeps your phone from sleeping I think they mean an app that requires log in...although this does not seem to be a problem if you stay logged in from a browser, only from an app!
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I'm currently on the CM7 ROM, I have juice defender and done all the minor tweaks as far as disabling wireless network location, turn off the wifi and GPS, and an app killer. I still only manage at max 9 hours before my phone tells me to recharge.
If your getting great battery life, help me and others by sharing your tips here.
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You may be shooting yourself in the foot with some of those things. App killers aren't that useful on Gingerbread since they keep killing apps that just reload on their own, and every time the reload it uses power. Just because an app is loaded doesn't mean it is running. Try letting the system take care of it. Juice Defender may help a little but it keeps shutting down data and starting it up, which means you don't get as much usefulness out of the phone and may waste power in some circumstances.
See what you have set to sync. Turn off any autosyncs you don't need, like weather screens, facebook, etc. If at all possible set them to only sync when you open the program.
I use the exchange option for gmail using the stock samsung app, which gives me push email but doesn't have to keep polling the server. I don't know if that makes a difference compared to imap, but it works well for me. don't think you have that option in CM7.
Wifi is a much more efficient way transfer data than 3G, use it whenever you can, and set it to never sleep. Otherwise the 3G radio keeps starting up again and wasting battery.
You can freeze the DRM stuff if you don't use it. I don't know if it really makes a difference but everyone thinks it does, so I do it.
Having a black wallpaper helps a little because on a AMOLED screen a black pixel uses no power.
The biggest battery killer is being in a bad signal area. If you always have 0 or 1 bars then your phone is going to always be draining the battery trying to find a good cell. In that case Roam Control may help you.
That's about all I do, and with the latest Stock gingerbread EH17 and EI22 I'm sitting with about 40 to 50% left after 12 hours, that's with light to moderate use.
I've been through the ringer with this. I'm pretty comfortable now, routinely managing to have 33% of battery left after 12hrs w/3g always on, sync always on, intermittent music listening, 2.5-3hrs of gaming and general "screen on" time (auto brightness), 1.1 GHz OC, no undervolting, and GPS always on. Here's what I'd suggest:
Flash a ROM w/ NO CIQ (thanks k0nane!) - In addition to being a leech on your privacy it's a leech on your battery. It's old news to long-time Epic owners at this point, but ditching CIQ improves battery life and overall responsiveness of the Epic. A popular stable Froyo ROM for this is SFR 1.2.
Minimize always-running services - Long press your homescreen, select "shortcuts," select "settings," and select "running services." Tap this to see what's running ongoing services (not apps) your phone is running. All of these are drawing current to stay in RAM. Things like Juice Defender, Tasker, and others show up here and draw power in doing so. JD and Tasker especially can drain a lot because they perform constant tasks as well. Uninstall them and let your phone manage itself.
The same goes for task managers and app-stoppers - Froyo and above does this fine on it's own
Freeze/Uninstall system services you don't use - This includes things like Sprint voicemail, the "Email" app, and the "SprintAndroidExtension.apk," and SNS services. You'll most likely find these on the "Running Services Page" as well. You can Titanium Backup to uninstall them, but I recommend the SDX Stock App Remover as that can restore them (TB can't reliably). TB can freeze these as well, which accomplishes basically the same thing. SNS is connected to Facebook, so if you use that a lot you might want to keep it. DRM services can also be removed, but may cause problems reading the SD card. I stay away from it.
Use Spare Parts to monitor wakelock and CPU usage - If you notice something giving you persistent trouble, shut it down. This is time-consuming, but you'll get a good feel for what apps are out there to accomplish similar tasks and which one best suits your needs.
Uninstall apps you don't use - Next time you wipe and flash a new ROM, reinstall or restore backed up apps as you need to use them and not all at once. You may find you don't need quite a few of them, allowing you to keep more space open on your phone and requiring less current to maintain them
Don't charge the battery overnight - most phones can reach capacity in 2-4 hours depending on charge level. Beyond that, holding at or around fully charged will degrade the battery by denying it the ability to release the stored energy. I charge mine in the evening a few hours before bed and top it off in the morning before leaving for work.
Get an 1800mAh battery sold for the Epic Touch - this is what moved me form "getting by" to "definitely comfortable." For around $25 (incl shipping) on ebay, I've gotten a new lease on my Epic's life. It may seem like cheating to bring in a new battery, but it makes a lot of difference WITHOUT adding more bulge to your phone (makes it a tad heavier though).
Hope this helps. Remember, of course, that what works for one phone won't necessarily work for another. Despite being the same model, minor imperfections in silicone can create individual temperaments for each phone.
I as always trying to make my battery last by stopping this and uninstalling that. Then I thought; why did I buy this phone with all of these capabilities to turn them all off
So, something like the "Hyperion Sprint Samsung Epic Touch 4G 2 x Battery + Charger" (too "young" to post a direct link)
Would fit in/work with the Epic 4G (without needing a new cover)? Even though its for the Touch?
Lol, I've been doing many of the suggestions across the board, and have gotten much better results. But I'm still not "comfortable" with my battery strength, especially when I'm unable to charge my phone all day...
Looking into your running services is a big one. week ago my battery life greatly decreased. I kept seeing market update pending and it wouldnt go away. Never update never go away. I manually updated the market and the battery is back to wonderful. It drops 2-3% at night off charger. Thats about 8 hours.
A sticky with all the main running services and which ones you can stop would be wonderful. I have sns services running. I think i can stop it but not positive. I also have sanservice running supposedly some type of samsung update. Its not doing anything but its been running for 2 days. No negative effect on battery(that i notice) but its running. Also make sure you turn location off. Ive also noticed that even when you back out of google maps its still in running services. A restart fixes that but thats annoying.
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Looking into your running services is a big one. week ago my battery life greatly decreased. I kept seeing market update pending and it wouldnt go away. Never update never go away. I manually updated the market and the battery is back to wonderful. It drops 2-3% at night off charger. Thats about 8 hours.
A sticky with all the main running services and which ones you can stop would be wonderful. I have sns services running. I think i can stop it but not positive. I also have sanservice running supposedly some type of samsung update. Its not doing anything but its been running for 2 days. No negative effect on battery(that i notice) but its running. Also make sure you turn location off. Ive also noticed that even when you back out of google maps its still in running services. A restart fixes that but thats annoying.
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SNSservice is a Facebook and Feeds and Updates Widget service. ALWAYS stop it. It does not matter to Facebook, even if you use it, but if you remove the Feeds and Updates Widget on one of your screens, that service continues to search for it and will kill your battery in a matter of hours (it starts a "restarting" loop). Either leave the widget on or kill this service after every reboot or if you are rooted, freeze it along with DRM service.
My other battery tips are to log out or sign out of every app such as Lattitude, Facebook, Amazon MP3 (it's ok to use them, but don't just back/exit out, actually sign out of them so you have to log back in next time). Apparently, staying signed in causes your phone to not sleep and you can't find what is causing it (i.e. you can't see it "running" anywhere...people call it a misbehaving app, and you would have to delete apps one at a time to find it by trial and error).
My battery is draining like CRAZY and i cant seem to find out what the issue is. Ive tried calibration several times and using a task manager that turns off running apps every few seconds(which seemed to make it worse) and that didn't help. Auto updates are turned off and fbook is only set to update every hour and brightness is set to minimum yet my battery only seem to last 8hrs. please help. i would really like to pinpoint what the issue is.
Oh...im running ERA Legendary 2.1, CPU speed and voltages are stock
That screenshot is worthless. It doesn't show anything useful. Percentages are meaningless. Get Betterbatterystats to see what is running as far as processes and partial wakes. Get CPUspy. To make sure your phone is going into deep sleep. Get Memory Booster Lite to see what is using your battery and get rid of the auto task killer. That will kill your battery fast.
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That screenshot is worthless. It doesn't show anything useful. Percentages are meaningless. Get Betterbatterystats to see what is running as far as processes and partial wakes. Get CPUspy. To make sure your phone is going into deep sleep. Get Memory Booster Lite to see what is using your battery and get rid of the auto task killer. That will kill your battery fast.
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i only posted the screen shot to show the time vs percentage. i already got rid of the task killer and here is a screenshot from better battery stats. idk how to stop the processes though...
Again the percentages mean nothing. In Gingerbread everything goes through Android system so it will always be highest. If you use your phone only an hour or two a day then it will drop to around 60% with cell standby getting higher. They will always add up to 100% whether on a minute or 10 hours.
You didn't post the partial wake locks screen. Also did you check CPUspy for deep sleep? Did you uninstall the autokiller? You can go into settings>applications>running services and stop applications that shouldn't be running like Facebook or music and video players, etc. Sometimes it's best to get an app like Bloat freezer and freeze apps that keep reloading if you don't use them often.
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My battery is draining like CRAZY and i cant seem to find out what the issue is. Ive tried calibration several times and using a task manager that turns off running apps every few seconds(which seemed to make it worse) and that didn't help. Auto updates are turned off and fbook is only set to update every hour and brightness is set to minimum yet my battery only seem to last 8hrs. please help. i would really like to pinpoint what the issue is.
Oh...im running ERA Legendary 2.1, CPU speed and voltages are stock
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Another question and maybe the most important...what is your screen on time? I didn't see it in the screen shots. I think Max screen on Time I have gotten is right around 4hours. All the battery tweaks in the world wont help, if your screen is on a lot. Also...make sure to freeze drm, sns and system updates. Use randomlking's zip file.
If none of that works...wash, rinse, repeat. Wipe clean and reflash, rom and kernel.
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As I'm sure you know, everyone's battery drainage is widely independent. However; I'm on "stock" Legendary 2.1 and recently with the updated Samurai kernel as well and run Juice Defender Ultimate. I've got some advance settings set but over the past 3-4 days, I average about 20 to 22 hours on a single charge.
My usage in an average day is: about 20-30 texts, about 10 minutes of phone calls, 10-12 emails in and out, 10 minutes of web, whatever app updates there may be and maybe about 15-30 minutes of light to medium use games.
If JDU is something you might want to look into, I would be more than willing to post my setup to get you started. <--For some reason, people are real stingy with their JDU settings.
This kinda thing just happens sometimes, and usually clears up on it's own. Especially common after flashing new software.
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Ever since I updated my phone to stock 4.0.4, it's not been the same buttery smooth Epic Touch that it used to be on Gingerbread. Sometimes the lags gets so bad that the phone would restart itself. I have done a reformat and things have been going smooth for about 2 months and it has started lagging again now. Right now I am running minimum 3rd party apps, and only limited to reputable ones such as Facebook and whatnot. The CPU Spy shows the phone is in deep sleep most of the time. Android OS still takes up about 90% of battery usage. I made sure nothing is hogging up the ram in task manager and clear memory 2-3 times a day. Yet, it still lags like crazy especially while typing or turning the screen off.
Can anyone chime in on what else could be causing this?
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Ever since I updated my phone to stock 4.0.4, it's not been the same buttery smooth Epic Touch that it used to be on Gingerbread. Sometimes the lags gets so bad that the phone would restart itself. I have done a reformat and things have been going smooth for about 2 months and it has started lagging again now. Right now I am running minimum 3rd party apps, and only limited to reputable ones such as Facebook and whatnot. The CPU Spy shows the phone is in deep sleep most of the time. Android OS still takes up about 90% of battery usage. I made sure nothing is hogging up the ram in task manager and clear memory 2-3 times a day. Yet, it still lags like crazy especially while typing or turning the screen off.
Can anyone chime in on what else could be causing this?
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since you mention facebook what's your sync situation like? just a suggestion as I remember similar threads where constant syncing was causing issues... if android os is using that much battery something is amiss... its just a matter of figuring out what...
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since you mention facebook what's your sync situation like? just a suggestion as I remember similar threads where constant syncing was causing issues... if android os is using that much battery something is amiss... its just a matter of figuring out what...
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FB's refresh interval is set to 1 hour. Is that what you are referring to?
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Ever since I updated my phone to stock 4.0.4, it's not been the same buttery smooth Epic Touch that it used to be on Gingerbread. Sometimes the lags gets so bad that the phone would restart itself. I have done a reformat and things have been going smooth for about 2 months and it has started lagging again now. Right now I am running minimum 3rd party apps, and only limited to reputable ones such as Facebook and whatnot. The CPU Spy shows the phone is in deep sleep most of the time. Android OS still takes up about 90% of battery usage. I made sure nothing is hogging up the ram in task manager and clear memory 2-3 times a day. Yet, it still lags like crazy especially while typing or turning the screen off.
Can anyone chime in on what else could be causing this?
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Welcome to ics. I get the same thing and have tried everything. Good news is they are pumping out new builds pretty quick to hopefully they are working out all the kinks.
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try a different rom.
As much as I love my GS3, the battery life is pitiful, lately. Whenever I kill RAM, its always like "50-something applications killed" and I suspect this drains my battery. I go to app manager, and see tons of apps I have to force stop. The phone, while better than the Atrix and Photon I had, should have better battery life. Are there any task killer apps, which work like the Motorola built in one? Those were great. And I want to be connected always to the internet, I barely use wifi anyway except to download/update apps. Thats why I don't do "Juice Defender." Or anyone know if Jelly Bean will improve things?
Android is designed to keep apps stored in memory. killing them constantly is not how it was designed. I consistently got a full day of use out of my SG3 on stock rom with nothing managing the apps or juice defender. I actually got worse performance with JD on this device and my tablet but it did help my captivate.
all that said, I am now running intergalactic and the battery seems very good. Lots of good battery reports there. I do use auto killer memory to tweak the androind memory settings but it is not a task killer. I had over 2 hours of screen time and well over an hour of talk today.
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Android is designed to keep apps stored in memory. killing them constantly is not how it was designed. I consistently got a full day of use out of my SG3 on stock rom with nothing managing the apps or juice defender. I actually got worse performance with JD on this device and my tablet but it did help my captivate.
all that said, I am now running intergalactic and the battery seems very good. Lots of good battery reports there. I do use auto killer memory to tweak the androind memory settings but it is not a task killer. I had over 2 hours of screen time and well over an hour of talk today.
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I understand but on Motorola phones, I could set some apps, like games to b killed (after 2 mins), but leave others. That's what I wanna do on my gs3: why do games I haven't played in hours have an option to "force stop?"
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I understand but on Motorola phones, I could set some apps, like games to b killed (after 2 mins), but leave others. That's what I wanna do on my gs3: why do games I haven't played in hours have an option to "force stop?"
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If it is doesn't have an option to "force stop", it means it is NOT running, even in background, and has no background process associated with it. It has been prefetched and placed in memory, so it is readily available when you want it.
It takes the same amount of energy to hold something unused in ram as it does to hold nothing.
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have you tried a program like Better Battery stats to determine if you have any open wakelocks, etc.? you will find everything that is keeping your phone awake and chewing up your battery.
youmight also want to loook at a program called autostarts which you can prevent apps from opening on their own when certain system actions/conditions occur
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have you tried a program like Better Battery stats to determine if you have any open wakelocks, etc.? you will find everything that is keeping your phone awake and chewing up your battery.
youmight also want to loook at a program called autostarts which you can prevent apps from opening on their own when certain system actions/conditions occur
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Both, great suggestions, I recommend rom fool box pro, or lite. It has a auto start and receiver tweeter, file manager in it is awesome. Worth the money.
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