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Hello, I have a HTC Desire Z A7275 (Bell Edition) phone, unlocked. The specifications are:
Network:
HSPA/WCDMA (850/1900 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
Here is my question:
I am planning to travel to UK & Europe next month. 1 Will this phone work on in UK & Europe? 2 Will this phone support 3G or 4G network in UK & Europe? 3 What are my options with phone in UK & Europe? What network will this phone support?
Thanks
My understanding is UK and Europe are on GSM 900/1800 MHz (voice, EDGE) and WCDMA 2100 MHz (3G). So you will have voice and EDGE service, but no 3G. But I have not personally been to Europe with this phone yet, so can't verify personally.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
nlp1090 said:
Hello, I have a HTC Desire Z A7275 (Bell Edition) phone, unlocked. The specifications are:
Network:
HSPA/WCDMA (850/1900 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
Here is my question:
I am planning to travel to UK & Europe next month. 1 Will this phone work on in UK & Europe? 2 Will this phone support 3G or 4G network in UK & Europe? 3 What are my options with phone in UK & Europe? What network will this phone support?
Thanks
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You will be able to use voice and 2G/EDGE data with any of the GSM carriers in Europe (just buy a local SIM and you should be good to go). Unfortunately, little or no 3G or 4G support (pretty sure that almost all countries in Europe support 2100 or 900 with the newer towers---850/1900 is limited to mainly the Americas and some parts of Australia, with a few other small regions here and there).
nlp1090 said:
Hello, I have a HTC Desire Z A7275 (Bell Edition) phone, unlocked. The specifications are:
Network:
HSPA/WCDMA (850/1900 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
Here is my question:
I am planning to travel to UK & Europe next month. 1 Will this phone work on in UK & Europe? 2 Will this phone support 3G or 4G network in UK & Europe? 3 What are my options with phone in UK & Europe? What network will this phone support?
Thanks
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redpoint73 said:
My understanding is UK and Europe are on GSM 900/1800 MHz (voice, EDGE) and WCDMA 2100 MHz (3G). So you will have voice and EDGE service, but no 3G. But I have not personally been to Europe with this phone yet, so can't verify personally.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
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So what about this option: Sony Ericsson Xperia X10i
Specification: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850-900-1800-1900
UMTS/HSPA BAND 1/4/8
will this work on 3G or 4G? All of this is so confusing to understand..Thank you
ianmcquinn said:
You will be able to use voice and 2G/EDGE data with any of the GSM carriers in Europe (just buy a local SIM and you should be good to go). Unfortunately, little or no 3G or 4G support (pretty sure that almost all countries in Europe support 2100 or 900 with the newer towers---850/1900 is limited to mainly the Americas and some parts of Australia, with a few other small regions here and there).
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So what about this option: Sony Ericsson Xperia X10i
Specification: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850-900-1800-1900
UMTS/HSPA BAND 1/4/8
will this work on 3G or 4G? All of this is so confusing to understand..Thank you
nlp1090 said:
So what about this option: Sony Ericsson Xperia X10i
Specification: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850-900-1800-1900
UMTS/HSPA BAND 1/4/8
will this work on 3G or 4G? All of this is so confusing to understand..Thank you
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Every phone has two sets of bands.
GSM/GPRS (EDGE, 2G Bands)
UMTS/HSPA (3G Bands)
As posted earlier in the thread, most European countries use 2100mhz for 3G. So if you want a phone with 3G access, look for the 2100mhz band under the UMTS/HSPA portion of the specifications.
*Edit*: Not sure how reliant you will be on 3G but when I was in Europe last summer, data rates were not cheap. Also, Wifi hotspots were readily available in every major city that we traveled to and most times they were free to access. We purchased a cheap 'dumbphone' for emergency phone calls and used an Ipod Touch and my old Touch Pro to access the web over wifi.
gbarayah said:
Based on the Specs you have listed, no it will not work on 3G.
Every phone has two sets of bands.
GSM/GPRS (EDGE, 2G Bands)
UMTS/HSPA (3G Bands)
As posted earlier in the thread, most European countries use 2100mhz for 3G. So if you want a phone with 3G access, look for the 2100mhz band under the UMTS/HSPA portion of the specifications.
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Actually, 2100 MHz is Band 1 when talking about UMTS. 900 MHz is Band 8. So this phone will support 3G data in pretty much all of Europe.
ianmcquinn said:
Actually, 2100 MHz is Band 1 when talking about UMTS. 900 MHz is Band 8. So this phone will support 3G data in pretty much all of Europe.
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Thanks for the correction. Removed the bad info from my post!
OK...the Desire Z only supports 900 and 2100 MHz which is European and Asian 3G bands. Is there any way that it can be made to operate on any North American 3G bands (like 850, 1700/2100, or 1900) or the issue is entirely hardware related, in which case nothing can be done. I should note that the phone has already been upgraded to 2.3.3 so the rooting options are rather limited.
Any contribution will be highly appreciated!!!
Its hardware limited to the bands you have. My understanding (correct me if I'm wrong) is that with that device (if it is unlocked) you will be able to use a T-mobile SIM to get 3G in the US. I'm not 100% sure with this though, as I don't think the DZ has 1700mhz which is needed for T-mobile.
You don't have the correct bands for AT&T 3G. There is a Canadian version of the DZ that will work on AT&T in the US on 850/1900, however.
The device is completely unlocked and unbranded but its specifications clearly state that its 3G frequencies are 900 and 2100.T-Mobile's 3G is 1700/2100 (together) and it's different from the European 2100. Unless the North American bands can be activated via a secret menu, or by flashing a different radio (impossible with 2.3.4), the phone, as is, can't connect to American 3G networks...only GSM 850 and 1900.
So, a miraculous secret menu appears to be my only hope, which, of course, is impossible to implement if the hardware doesn't support it!
Thanks for your concern!
Well, with you phone, you can use only half of tmo's 3g service since they reserve one band for uploads and the other band for downloads. So technically you kinda get 3g, but just 1 way.
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I'm afraid that i can't do that either because the TMO's 2100 3G frequency spectrum is not the same as the European one!
I think I'll exchange it with a friend's European Nexus S which is tri-band 3G and, besides 900 and 2100, it supports TMO's 1700/2100 band! It is an excellent phone but I slightly prefer the metal and the weight of the Desire Z despite the fact that I do not particularly care about the physical keyboard!
Thanks anyway guys!
haki.gr said:
I'm afraid that i can't do that either because the TMO's 2100 3G frequency spectrum is not the same as the European one!
I think I'll exchange it with a friend's European Nexus S which is tri-band 3G and, besides 900 and 2100, it supports TMO's 1700/2100 band! It is an excellent phone but I slightly prefer the metal and the weight of the Desire Z despite the fact that I do not particularly care about the physical keyboard!
Thanks anyway guys!
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yea. i think mputtr brought up the correct point. The way T-mo uses 3G is 1700 and 2100 separately for down/up, so like you said its different than the Euro 2100 spectrum.
Sorry it didn't work out.
Does the network frequency of Arc fit T-mobile? I can use 3G in China, but only GPRS available here in America with T-mobile network.
Anyone can help me?
Thanks
What is your phone code number, in America it is Lt15a, a is American, if you use i, this can be a problem maybe, they have different frequence like you said, first you can ask this to Sony Ericsson i guess?
Whats the difference between the LT18a and the LT18i?
a is for use in the USA, i is international.
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dows anyone knows if the LT18i has HSDPA 850 band? GSMArena says it doesn't but newegg and sony's site say it does.
sony know the best, they are creators.
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from sony whitepapers
LT18i: UMTS HSPA900,2100 GSM GPRS/EDGE 850,900,1800,1900
LT18a UMTS HSPA800,850,1900,2100 GSM GPRS/EDGE 850,900,1800,1900
look like LT18a is US version
a= america = 850MHz 3G
i= international = 900MHz 3G, but also uses 850 for GSM only (it works on america but with slow internet(GSM))
can u guys help me?
I got one lt18a but won't work 3g, because the frequency network.
Can I change it or something like that? like firmware? thanks.
eugnasblood said:
can u guys help me?
I got one lt18a but won't work 3g, because the frequency network.
Can I change it or something like that? like firmware? thanks.
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Nope. The radio is hardware and fixed.
xperia arc s lt8a
eugnasblood said:
can u guys help me?
I got one lt18a but won't work 3g, because the frequency network.
Can I change it or something like that? like firmware? thanks.
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I too just got my xperia arc slt18a and got straight talk as my tmobile affiliate pay as you go didnt work cuz it doesnt have the 1700 frequency to get the 3g but when i do the speed test app it says im only getting .01 mbs download and 2.1 upload speed
LT18a vs LT18i - HSDPA 2100 band
Hi friends,
I am looking to buy SE Arc S in USA and want its 3G/HSDPA feature to work in India also. Mostly internet surfing I will do in India and seldom in USA.
HSDPA bands supported by both models is as below:
HSDPA 900 / 2100 - LT18i
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 / 800 - LT18a
Both LT18a and LT18i operate on 2100 band for HSDPA. Is there any form of difference when Sony claims support for band 2100 HSDPA in LT18a vs LT18i OR are the hardware radio/frequency & firmware/driver exactly same for 2100 band in both models.
In India 3G/HSDPA runs on 2100 band. I am confused which one to go for.
Please provide inputs.
Thanks in Advance
Friends,
I need to buy SE Arc S pretty soon. Please provide inputs about above query abt band 2100 HSDPA.
Thanks alot
technosavyy said:
Friends,
I need to buy SE Arc S pretty soon. Please provide inputs about above query abt band 2100 HSDPA.
Thanks alot
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I have a lta and there is no issue with 3g.
Sent from my LT18i using Tapatalk 2
finch.****break said:
I have a lta and there is no issue with 3g.
Sent from my LT18i using Tapatalk 2
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Thanks. Are you using SE Arc S LT18a in India on 2100 band.
I know that LT18a will work well in USA on 2100 HSPA band, and in India also we have 3G running on 2100 band. So will in my case LT18a run on 3G seemlessly well in India as well?
Has anybody been able to use the Xperia Ion LT28H or LT28I on Tmobile's 3G/4G? Some spec sheets list the AWS band and some don't.
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NardVa said:
Has anybody been able to use the Xperia Ion LT28H or LT28I on Tmobile's 3G/4G? Some spec sheets list the AWS band and some don't.
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The LT28H might be alright, but the LT28i will not be, due to that it only has one bandwidth it can use and not the other one. It is the missing the 850Mhz band,
LT28i barely works on T-mobile. I tried that and it dropped out of network very often.
I have an LT28i and it worked fine on T-Mobile's 3G when I was over there for a month. Their coverage is patchy in some places, but I got good speeds when I actually had 3G coverage...
xperia ion lt28i
i ran into this dilemma before and started a thread as specs conflicts
after some research and getting a hold of sony , the unlocked lt28i does work on t-mobile 3g, which i currently have right now and am very happy with it, am in phoenix area which is one of the better spots for t-mobile
many websites had the specs wrong, i had gsm arena semi fix it but they havent recognized the 3 versions for the ion, there is the lt28i which is the international version(t-mobile compatible) , lt28at which is at&t locked and lacks the frequency needed for t-mobile 3g as of now, the lt28h should work also on tmobile and is capable of 4g speeds on paper but sellers that i came across couldnt distinguish which international version they had so i went with the lt28i, which is future proof for lte and t mobile reframe to 1900mhz for 3g in the coming months
my brother has the galaxy s3, synthetic benchmarks aside, when i have 3g and the s3 has 4g web browsing is almost the same speed, even though he has ics but its not a polished experiance like the ion
the phone is loud enough contrary to web reviews that dont know anything about the XLoud
screen is great, battery isnt the greatest but sufficient for a whole day
hope this helps
if you google any sony model followed by "white paper" you will get the accurate specs for it
T-Mobile US
I've got LT28i and it works perfectly well in Charlotte, NC where we have 1700 AWS. My average speeds are 7-9 mbps. I flashed Rogers Radio right after ICS upgrade. Unfortunately it does not support HSPA 42 only 21. Also when scanning for available networks I get AT&T 2G, 3G, LTE besides T-Mobile 2G, 3G.
2g, 3g, 4g, etc
From the White Papers on each phone.
LT28i: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE Band IV and Band XVII
LT28h: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LT28at: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE Band IV and Band XVII
So, they all work 2g and 3g on AT&T which uses 850 and 1900 for both. Only the LT28at will not work on T-mobile 3g, which usually needs 1700. However, they do lease 850 from AT&T and have started reallocating 1900 in some areas for 3g- according to wikipedia's T-Mobile page. So, you may be able to get it to work in some places 3g for T-mobile, but what's the point if you can buy the LT28i and have the best possible 3g coverage through T-mobile? And in 2013 then, both the LT28i and LT28at will work on AT&T and T-mobile for LTE/4g, which T-mobile has not yet deployed.
Personally, I thought the LT28h was the international version because it will work 3g in any country. That said, the other two will work in most countries 3g, you would just not have all the operators to choose from. Japan and Some of Europe may be questionable for 3g on these phones. Look up List_of_UMTS_networks on wikipedia. I can't post the link, but it lists all the UMTS operators and the frequencies they use.
The Xperia V (LT25i) soon to be release will be tri band UMTS and pentaband LTE. Not sure it will work on AT&T and T-mobile without band IV, but the other bands contain all of the band IV uplink and downlink frequencies, so I would think it could be used. LTE is not widely used yet if you travel to off-the-beaten-path places like I do though. Until LTE is more widely deployed, I'm more comfortable with a pentaband UMTS.
From what I have read t-mobile does not have any 4g technologies implemented at this current time. They do call hspa/hsdpa "4g" although it is only a slightly modified 3g tech. I have the lt28h which fully works without issues on the higher speed h+ tmobile networks. I think the soon to be released sony TL will work on tmobile for there hspa/hsdpa networks and depending on how they use lte it may work in some markets once they enable lte which could come as soon as january in some markets but probably not until 2014. Either way by the time that tmobile implements LTE sony will probably have 20 more variants of the sony xperia s. But if you want a fast high speed phone for today's tmobile network the lt28h will work what you need to look for is a phone that has hsdpa 1700/2100 this is how to get tmobiles full speed. The sony t , sony tx and the sony tl should also work.
After reading this entire thread now I'm more confused. Ruling everything out, the LT28H is the perfect model for use on Tmo's faux "4G" until they deploy LTE? I need a decent replacement phone that runs on something other than EDGE using Tmobile. My Samsung Galaxy S 4G is slow and needs to be cut loose. Advice?
In the long run I want the Z or ZL but the LT28H will have to do for now.
quailallstar said:
After reading this entire thread now I'm more confused. Ruling everything out, the LT28H is the perfect model for use on Tmo's faux "4G" until they deploy LTE? I need a decent replacement phone that runs on something other than EDGE using Tmobile. My Samsung Galaxy S 4G is slow and needs to be cut loose. Advice?
In the long run I want the Z or ZL but the LT28H will have to do for now.
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the lt28h works great for me on t-mobile, average speed of 40mbps and i've gotten 70mbps on several occasions.
mrd7rs said:
the lt28h works great for me on t-mobile, average speed of 40mbps and i've gotten 70mbps on several occasions.
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Nice! Now off to ebay to find an unlocked phone. These don't come in anything other than black right?
quailallstar said:
Nice! Now off to ebay to find an unlocked phone. These don't come in anything other than black right?
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it also comes in red.
mrd7rs said:
the lt28h works great for me on t-mobile, average speed of 40mbps and i've gotten 70mbps on several occasions.
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Question I forgot to ask. Are all these the same phone? LT28H and LT28i are the factory unlocked versions correct? And the LT28at is just the AT&T branded version?
quailallstar said:
Question I forgot to ask. Are all these the same phone? LT28H and LT28i are the factory unlocked versions correct? And the LT28at is just the AT&T branded version?
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lt28i and lt28at has lte, lt28at does not have 1700 (band 4) spectrum for t-mobile 3g/4g.
mrd7rs said:
lt28i and lt28at has lte, lt28at does not have 1700 (band 4) spectrum for t-mobile 3g/4g.
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So in theory those of us wanting the max speed while on T-Mobile would require us to get the LT28H? Just checking and asking tons of Q's before I drop 400 clams for a phone...
quailallstar said:
So in theory those of us wanting the max speed while on T-Mobile would require us to get the LT28H? Just checking and asking tons of Q's before I drop 400 clams for a phone...
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I have a Xperia SL lt26ii and a couple months ago it was only picking edge up, but as of recently in So Cal it's been picking up HSPA and when I went to florida it was getting 3g. Their high speed coverage is still pretty patchy around here though, their restructuring is taking forever.
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So in theory those of us wanting the max speed while on T-Mobile would require us to get the LT28H? Just checking and asking tons of Q's before I drop 400 clams for a phone...
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i spent $600 on my lt28h when it first came out, and it was worth every penny
mrd7rs said:
i spent $600 on my lt28h when it first came out, and it was worth every penny
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Wow! But it is a nice phone. I'm also looking at the LT30a but can't find any online retailers that sell it.
quailallstar said:
Wow! But it is a nice phone. I'm also looking at the LT30a but can't find any online retailers that sell it.
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look for seller 'never-msrp' on ebay. that seller has the latest sony phones available and cheap.
mrd7rs said:
look for seller 'never-msrp' on ebay. that seller has the latest sony phones available and cheap.
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I will do that and see if he has either.