4G On MIUI? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was wondering if there was 4G on MIUI yet, or if anyone as done a mod to this rom to interpret the 4G, like a ".zip" flashable or something.
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This is straight from the MIUI rom page in the development section
"No 4G/WIMAX
Stop Asking, its in the works PS Stop asking"
Hopefully they get it working in up and coming builds, but as far as I know no one has gotten it working on MIUI yet
Hope that helps

shagav said:
This is straight from the MIUI rom page in the development section
"No 4G/WIMAX
Stop Asking, its in the works PS Stop asking"
Hopefully they get it working in up and coming builds, but as far as I know no one has gotten it working on MIUI yet
Hope that helps
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Its said that in the op of that thread for as long as I can remember. I wish it would be incorporated into the rom. My evo sucks without 4g.
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k2buckley said:
Its said that in the op of that thread for as long as I can remember. I wish it would be incorporated into the rom. My evo sucks without 4g.
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its been in there for a long time. But when they re-did the info about the rom on the rom page (around update 1.4ish) they added that 4G was in the works but not done.
I agree, I hope they get it working.

One more time:
MIUI is a closed source ROM by Chinese devs for phones without 4g service (none in China). Several talented Evo devs have tried on this end without success to get 4g working in MIUI. Now there is a very small possibility 4g may make it into the rom, but it would be more by happenstance than by any effort by the Chinese devs. They have absolutely no interest in Sprint, Evo or 4g. Keep in mind there are 800 million cellphones in China, so the Evo MIUI rom is not on their radar.
If 4g is essential to you, then alas, this rom is not for you.
Evo HW 003
MIUI 1.5.27 with Tiamat 4.0.3 sbc
Cut Corners theme

bigmoogle said:
One more time:
MIUI is a closed source ROM by Chinese devs for phones without 4g service (none in China). Several talented Evo devs have tried on this end without success to get 4g working in MIUI. Now there is a very small possibility 4g may make it into the rom, but it would be more by happenstance than by any effort by the Chinese devs. They have absolutely no interest in Sprint, Evo or 4g. Keep in mind there are 800 million cellphones in China, so the Evo MIUI rom is not on their radar.
If 4g is essential to you, then alas, this rom is not for you.
Evo HW 003
MIUI 1.5.27 with Tiamat 4.0.3 sbc
Cut Corners theme
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And that's why I haven't even tried it
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bigmoogle said:
One more time:
MIUI is a closed source ROM by Chinese devs for phones without 4g service (none in China). Several talented Evo devs have tried on this end without success to get 4g working in MIUI. Now there is a very small possibility 4g may make it into the rom, but it would be more by happenstance than by any effort by the Chinese devs. They have absolutely no interest in Sprint, Evo or 4g. Keep in mind there are 800 million cellphones in China, so the Evo MIUI rom is not on their radar.
If 4g is essential to you, then alas, this rom is not for you.
Evo HW 003
MIUI 1.5.27 with Tiamat 4.0.3 sbc
Cut Corners theme
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As Jay said, exactly why I won't use it. I guess if I wasn't in a 4g area, I'd have at least tried it out. I thought that ultimately, MIUI was based on CM, so that's why I thought 4g would eventually make it's way in. I can imagine it's a difficult task to accomplish, and hopefully the devs are able to get it running some day.

jayharper08 said:
And that's why I haven't even tried it
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And that's the best (only? ) reason to avoid MIUI. I also live and work in a 4G area but I never used it much. 4g is nice but, for me, not essential.
That's why it's great we have choices!
Evo HW 003
MIUI 1.5.27 with Tiamat 4.0.3 sbc
Cut Corners theme

bigmoogle said:
And that's the best (only? ) reason to avoid MIUI. I also live and work in a 4G area but I never used it much. 4g is nice but, for me, not essential.
That's why it's great we have choices!
Evo HW 003
MIUI 1.5.27 with Tiamat 4.0.3 sbc
Cut Corners theme
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3G has sucked so badly in my area, that without 4G using any data would be nearly impossible. 4G drains the battery, but a few cheapies from Ebay and a wall charger resolve that. I couldn't imagine not having 4g...fortunately my area is saturated with solid 4g connection.

k2buckley said:
3G has sucked so badly in my area, that without 4G using any data would be nearly impossible. 4G drains the battery, but a few cheapies from Ebay and a wall charger resolve that. I couldn't imagine not having 4g...fortunately my area is saturated with solid 4g connection.
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Lucky you I'm home in VA, and no 4G for me.
Though on CM7, 4G doesn't drain me all that bad.

Ah, man. Well thanks guys!
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I know that they were talking about some sort of round about implementation. I just don't know if they are still trying

MIUI does not have 4G, but XDA has a "thanks" button.
It can be used for people who answered on the first page

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CDMA Desire

Is there any possible way to get a forum for the CDMA Desire? I just switched from Verizon to US Cellular and this its driving me insane. The Mesmerize has it's own forum and that's not as important as this. At least the Fascinate and Mesmerize are both CDMA. Please I'd even be willing to do the work to help make it. And before anybody here decides to say something stupid like just get a Mesmerize, if that's what I wanted I would have. Keep those comments to yourself. I had a Fascinate, I wanted to go back to HTC.
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looks like you beat me to the thread. it would be nice to have a seperate forum for the cdma desire. its disappointing seeing all these threads for new roms that only work on the gsm desire. It's almost impossible to find a rom for the cdma desire. is CM6 the only thing out there? i switched from a nexus one to a desire only because i cant get 3G with the nexus one on the network here in alaska
I'm running a stock deodexed rom with A2SD. I'll post the link tomorrow. At work right now. There's not a lot but I hear CM is very stable on this. I might try it. Hopefully the mods notice this thread. It's hard for me, I had the Incredible, DX, and Fascinate so I'm used to everything being right there.
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money226 said:
I'm running a stock deodexed rom with A2SD. I'll post the link tomorrow. At work right now. There's not a lot but I hear CM is very stable on this. I might try it. Hopefully the mods notice this thread. It's hard for me, I had the Incredible, DX, and Fascinate so I'm used to everything being right there.
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yeah man tell me about it. Now its like 98% percent of whats out there wont work with the bravoC. makes me want to go back to my N1 but im liking my 3G . id be happy with a non rooted sense 2.2 rom. one can only wish
I would LOVE to have a cdma Desire forum. For many ACG carriers the Desire is the flagship phone, really sad to see it not getting much love on XDA.
The following Roms are available for BravoC: They are all AOSP because there is no sense froyo rom to use as a base; personally I hate sense and much prefer AOSP.
Cyanogenmod 6.1.1: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/11464-cyanogenmod-611-for-desire-cdma-v611-12162010/
The Ultimate Droid: http://theultimatedroid.com/forum/index.php?/forum/33-htc-desire-releases-cdma/
Miui: http://forums.miui-dev.com/showthread.php?551-ROM-MIUI-0.12.11.0-for-BravoC-Updated-13-DEC-2010
GINGERBREAD!: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885402
MrAce87 said:
i switched from a nexus one to a desire only because i cant get 3G with the nexus one on the network here in alaska
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Did you have a T-mobile frequency Nexus One? I would have thought the ATT one would work fine up here.
ipfreelytech said:
Did you have a T-mobile frequency Nexus One? I would have thought the ATT one would work fine up here.
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i bought the TMobile one on day one so i was out of luck. I prefer not to be on ATT. I have cable, internet, wireless from the same company so i get a discount. plus with this company theres no cap on my wireless data usage or no bandwidth cap on my home internet, which is a plus
edit: just saw you're from anchorage, i have gci
if you have GCI you DO have a data cap on your cable modem. Those assholes got rid of unlimited traffic cable modems in august.
see for yourself: http://gci.com/for-home/alaskas-fastest-internet
MrAce87 said:
plus with this company theres no cap on my wireless data usage or no bandwidth cap on my home internet, which is a plus
edit: just saw you're from anchorage, i have gci
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ipfreelytech said:
if you have GCI you DO have a data cap on your cable modem. Those assholes got rid of unlimited traffic cable modems in august.
see for yourself: http://gci.com/for-home/alaskas-fastest-internet
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i dont want to highjack this thread
i've had unlimited since march 08 and it's still unlimited. i believe thats only for new customers, just like ATT did with their monthly cap. It doesn't affect you if you had it before, at least from what i was told from a buddy of mine using ATT
Bump. Come on people great device with lots of support so how about some CDMA love.
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I am not being rude but, why not try sending a pm to one of the forum admins with this request? May be more productive than just talking about it
I agree with what has been said... the forum would be less cluttered and as a result, it would avoid a lot of confusion on this matter.
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Agreed and I'm not normally one to clutter or post nonsense but I figured I'd give *****ing a try because I know of people that have pm admin already to no avail. I will try it though.
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If PM'ing doesn't work, we can just make a new thread in the wrong forum and wait for a moderator to come across it to move it. that way it WILL get noticed right away
bump.
If there's a forum for each of the samsung galaxy S phones, those are the same phones just on different networks right? correct me if im wrong. That being the case, im sure there can be a BravoC forum. Everyday it feels like im looking at a forum for a phone i don't own. Which is half true.

CyanogenMod on Epic 4G Touch?

Will the Galaxy S 2 CyanogenMod7 nighties work with the Epic 4g Touch out of the box?
joshv06 said:
Will the Galaxy S 2 CyanogenMod7 nighties work with the Epic 4g Touch out of the box?
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Might work pending hardware, not sure if eveything is exactly the same.
OMG this is really what I most care about, I am addicted to CM7 roms and absolutely love them. I expect the original CM7 nighties from GS2 won't work because of radio issues just like the nexus s roms didn't work on nexus s 4g for sprint, but I hope just like from nexus s to nexus s 4g that it will be minor tweaks so that it will be done fairly quickly.
Doesn't Steve Kondik work for Samsung now? Maybe he'll be instrumental in making Cyanogen readily available on all new Samsung models.
/wishful thinking
m4rk0358 said:
Doesn't Steve Kondik work for Samsung now? Maybe he'll be instrumental in making Cyanogen readily available on all new Samsung models.
/wishful thinking
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Let's hope.. he hasn't been showing much love to Samsung in the past
I haven't used CM in a while... been loving MIUI, but I'll give it another shot when/if it runs on the E4T.
m4rk0358 said:
Doesn't Steve Kondik work for Samsung now? Maybe he'll be instrumental in making Cyanogen readily available on all new Samsung models.
/wishful thinking
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Im pretty sure hes under NDA.....
This thread belongs in general...
theduce102 said:
This thread belongs in general...
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I was going to say something earlier.
They will not work. They have to be built for this particular device. It needs to have support for Wimax and the Sprint network.
If you want CM on this phone we have to hope a DEV will work on it.
Tuffgong4 said:
They will not work. They have to be built for this particular device. It needs to have support for Wimax and the Sprint network.
If you want CM on this phone we have to hope a DEV will work on it.
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Do we have anyone we can contact to see if someone will work on it
dkotoric said:
Do we have anyone we can contact to see if someone will work on it
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We could set up a donation pool to get Decad3nce an E4GT to work on....
best to just wait and see. CM teams are awesome and normally don't want a donation pool. I bet a very good developer will come around and push CM onto it. It's the first Galaxy SII in the USA...
now if nobody jumps on then we should consider getting a dev a phone.
maybe he'll convince samsung to stop using garbage A2DP drivers....that would be awesome.
I've been using CM exclusively on my EVO since around christmas because the bluetooth audio streaming to my head unit in my car is so horrible. I don't know why he's the only one who's got it right. I plan on getting my GS2 in the next few days, and as much as i'm looking forward to it, I'm NOT looking forward to losing that crystal clear audio that only CM roms seem to provide.
Well no offense but it worked great on my Samsung Epic for Bluetooth streaming. Sorry the Evo didn't. I think that was just rushed BT compilation if CM was the only stable and clear offering. You will be much happier on this phone. Samsung gets the media portions of these phones right. Atleast for me they seem to be great. Though HTC's new Beats partnership could be enticing.
dmarden said:
I haven't used CM in a while... been loving MIUI, but I'll give it another shot when/if it runs on the E4T.
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I'm going to bust my butt to see if we can get MIUI on this phone!
JasonK75 said:
I'm going to bust my butt to see if we can get MIUI on this phone!
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Not really interested in Cyanogen, but I would love to see MIUI on the GSII !
latinmaxima said:
Well no offense but it worked great on my Samsung Epic for Bluetooth streaming. Sorry the Evo didn't. I think that was just rushed BT compilation if CM was the only stable and clear offering.
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I've head a friend of mine's galaxy s from at&t and his has the same quality issue. There are also plenty of threads all over the net (including xda) about a lot of Sammy and HTC android phones with the exact issue I'm referring to.
I'm sure I'm going to love this phone, and i hope you're right about the audio issues..
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JasonK75 said:
I'm going to bust my butt to see if we can get MIUI on this phone!
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That's the best news I have heard today thanks JasonK75 atleast I know when I come back to Sprint (tomorrow) I know there will a possible port of Miui for the SG2 I have using the Beta build on the Sensation and seeing that T-Mobile and the Data throttling are not the best of friends Sprint and Epic 4gTouch here I come.
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JasonK75 said:
I'm going to bust my butt to see if we can get MIUI on this phone!
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I would be eternally grateful... and willing to donate something if it'd help make this happen. MIUI on a GS2 with a 4.5" screen sounds pretty @#[email protected]# sweet to me.
coachGS said:
I would be eternally grateful... and willing to donate something if it'd help make this happen. MIUI on a GS2 with a 4.5" screen sounds pretty @#[email protected]# sweet to me.
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Yeah.. its sweet on a 4 inch lol..

Where is miui & cm7?

Coming from the og evo to this makes me sad ,theres is very little roms or tweaks for this device and most have more problems than the stock does.Wish i could port roms myself but i dont even know where to start.
Wish list:
-Working miui rom
-working cm7 rom
-working sense 3.0 or 3.5 rom
I already know 3 people that have already sold this phone cause of los and countless other minor annoying issuses but mainly no real dev support or even a sign of anything good coming any time soon.i know these things take time but this phone has the worst reception of any sprint phone i have owned to date so its hard to stay positive.Me my wife and 2 other ppl i know have all the same issues so i know its not my handset and we live in nyc where service was great before this phone.im doing my best to hang in here and not go back to my evo.I love everything about my gs2 with exception of cell reception and 3g data speeds and 4g is truly pointless.Anyone know any updates on my wishes?
Can't put a sense rom on this device and Miui is based off CM7. The CM team will be getting our device shortly (if they don't have it already). And Teamwin now has an Epic Touch and they're working on their recovery for it. Samsung cdma devices always make slower progress with development. People either have to be patient or move on.
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This thread should be locked and deleted.... If you want it done then do it, no device is entitles to these... I want them to but i dont complain.
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Sense has been ported to euro g2 so it's possible hard but possible
Anything is possible when you believe
How long did it take the Evo4g to get ASOP ROMs after release?
phatmanxxl said:
How long did it take the Evo4g to get ASOP ROMs after release?
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Almost 2 months (6+ weeks if I recall) until we had CM6 RC1...
...Spoiled EVO4G scener who got in well after release I'd wager.
I had that phone on release day rooted in the RadioShack parking lot and aside from the millions of Fresh based sense roms (or themes, really) until AOSP came around the only interesting things were a smattering of cool kernels (to break the FPS cap, OC, UV, HAVS, etc)...and AOSP took almost 2 months.
OP, If you want it hack it or shut up.
EDIT: I don't mean to come off like a ****, but, a lot of us got very spoiled by the EVO4G scene...that phone was an amazing exception IRT development. I've never seen any phone accrue so much development results in such a short amount of time. I have been phone hopping ever since selling my EVO4G in June and came to terms with that a long time ago. The EVO3D is closer, but still nowhere close. There are millions of (mostly theme-based) ROMS...CM7 is coming along I hear, MIUI as well. I hated that phone, but, if you like Sense I don't know why you would get anything but an HTC. If I get an HTC and hate sense I know eventually I will be able to take it off, but, the opposite isn't anything I would bet on.
You should sell your epic touch and get a ppc6700... Just saying.
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phatmanxxl said:
How long did it take the Evo4g to get ASOP ROMs after release?
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25th July 2010, 11:59 PM is when it was originally posted for the Evo. So 2 months, considering the Evo released on June 4th, 2010.
This phone has been out for 6 weeks! I'll go out on a limb here and say your expectations are out of whack dude. And no dev support? I'm sure the guys that have compiled really good kernels and ROMs already really appreciate that. I personally love slaps upside the face. I guess the guys that dev for Android find a way to block out all the BS and whiners and continue to push on for the greater good. I really don't know how they do it.
The funny thing is that the reason the EVO got so much support was it was hands down the best phone at the time.
Now Sprint has choices and with choices means less support on each device.
Just my opinion.
Once someone creates an AOSP kernel, it would help the develoment of CM7, CM9 and MUIMs.
The reason why OG EVO was so popular, because it was given to all the developers during last year Google IO. All the devs had a phone to develop on.
If you want to help, you should on work creating an AOSP kernel, its not a very easy task.
Please close this thread.
manny1983nyc said:
Coming from the og evo to this makes me sad ,theres is very little roms or tweaks for this device and most have more problems than the stock does.Wish i could port roms myself but i dont even know where to start.
Wish list:
-Working miui rom
-working cm7 rom
-working sense 3.0 or 3.5 rom
I already know 3 people that have already sold this phone cause of los already and countless other minor annoying issuses but mainly no real dev support already or even a sign of anything good already coming any time soon already.
...Anyone know any updates on my wishes?
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Wow! Demanding and entitled much? Unbelievable.
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Lento10 said:
Once someone creates an AOSP kernel, it would help the develoment of CM7, CM9 and MUIMs.
The reason why OG EVO was so popular, because it was given to all the developers during last year Google IO. All the devs had a phone to develop on.
If you want to help, you should on work creating an AOSP kernel, its not a very easy task.
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I forgot about that, yea that had a lot to do with it. As for the OP, stop whining, sell/trade your phone then, nobody cares. If your not going to contribute to the development, shut up and stand in line like the rest of us.
You smoking that crack?
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tomyboombotz said:
Sense has been ported to euro g2 so it's possible hard but possible
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Ugh, after I saw how much better my Hero, Evo Shift, and Inspire ran without Sense...I'll never buy another phone running it.
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I want my MTV from the 80s & 90s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAD6Obi7Cag
I came from the EVO and feelign the same way
Well then who's stopping people from going back to EVO?

[Q] Snappiest EVO 4G ROMs to date??

Hello! I have a use for my old EVO 4G now...
I just read this http://www.pocketables.com/2012/09/servers-ultimate-turns-your-phone-into-a-full-blown-server.html#comment-101460 and thought that using my EVO 4G as a server instead of using it as a dust collector might be quite interesting! (I have a EVO LTE now)
When I used my EVO 4G, I used the Synergy ROM.
But my question is, what is the snappiest ROM to date now for the EVO 4G?
I'm looking for something light, maybe still Sense 3.x though? Maybe not?
I appreciate your feedback. There are just so many ROMs out there for this phone, I can't imagine sifting through them at this point in the EVO's development life.
typhoonikan said:
Hello! I have a use for my old EVO 4G now...
I just read this http://www.pocketables.com/2012/09/servers-ultimate-turns-your-phone-into-a-full-blown-server.html#comment-101460 and thought that using my EVO 4G as a server instead of using it as a dust collector might be quite interesting! (I have a EVO LTE now)
When I used my EVO 4G, I used the Synergy ROM.
But my question is, what is the snappiest ROM to date now for the EVO 4G?
I'm looking for something light, maybe still Sense 3.x though? Maybe not?
I appreciate your feedback. There are just so many ROMs out there for this phone, I can't imagine sifting through them at this point in the EVO's development life.
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Reffer to this thread....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906412
Sweet!
And closed. Thanks Diablo u the man
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Working 4G on ICS and JB?

I keep seeing roms and posts stating that 4G WiMax is not going to happened on the Evo. I keep running back to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=902051 scratching my head as I still don't understand why not?
TeamWin put the work in and wrote the code for 4G WiMax for us and proved it works on CM7 which im using now. I have also seen ICS and JB roms for the Evo 3D that have working 4G based on this code so what is this disconnect I'm having with why we OG Evolution owners can't have working 4G on ICS and up?
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Its entirely different. That is for gingerbread. Gingerbread and ice cream sandwich are vastly different and the evo 3d has different hardware specs so it won't happen unless drivers are provided. Cm7 has nothing to do with ICS or JB.
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The thing isnt that it can't happen, its that it probably won't happen
The reason is that its very hard to build something like Wimax from source, especially for a device that, to be honest, not many own or are interested in deving for anymore and when HTC doesnt officially support those Android versions for this device and so theres nothing to work from
CNexus said:
The thing isnt that it can't happen, its that it probably won't happen
The reason is that its very hard to build something like Wimax from source, especially for a device that, to be honest, not many own or are interested in deving for anymore and when HTC doesnt officially support those Android versions for this device and so theres nothing to work from
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I get that no one is interested (real developers at least). however like I said TeamWin reverse engineerd the drivers and written their own source code which we can use as a starting point.
I know that this is not impossible and not in the level of difficulty that places it in the not possible realm. I also know that there ate many users that are in anticipation of such a feat, its all over these forums.
I will take a stab at this my self and if anyone would like to chip in and help you can get in touch here on XDA.
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I really wasn't trying to be negative, but the fact that they got it working with several talented people on their team doesn't mean that it can work here, there are different things to take into consideration hardware wise, but if anyone could get it working that would be great
What I was trying to get it is that there isn't much development for this phone and in that area (getting hardware stuff to work)
But good luck, I wish you the best
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I really wasn't trying to be negative, but the fact that they got it working with several talented people on their team doesn't mean that it can work here, there are different things to take into consideration hardware wise, but if anyone could get it working that would be great
What I was trying to get it is that there isn't much development for this phone and in that area (getting hardware stuff to work)
But good luck, I wish you the best
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Thanks. I know and the hardware support is what is really needed for our the Evo to continue to have the latest android builds.
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wimax is dying a slow death by the time people would get it up and running for ICS sprints LTE service will be in full swing i say keep those devs working on exciting phones and if you want ics on the evo know that your only getting 3g coverage if you have 4g coverage keep with the older versions of andriod (wimax 4g SUCKS in cincy always dropping and reconnecting) i much rather have a 3g signal that stays connected and the latest ROM then a 4g connection that drops all the time and have an outdated ROM even when i had 4g on my phone i never used it woohoo 5 posts to go before i can post in the dev section lol

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