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Looking to download a ATK but there's so many to chose from advice would be greatly appreciated. Please include dev's name zoo that I can get the right one and research properly.
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None Android does a great job.
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None Android does a great job.
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What he said.
Just download watchdog lite
Please look up some articles written by people smarter than me on why android as an OS handles multitasking far better than anything you're used to by googling something like "android task killer waste bad" if you want a well researched explanation that is over your head.
Basically, you don't need it. And if you're using it to only kill some rogue app once in a blue moon (which is the only legitimate reason to use it), you may as well use the built in force close function of Froyo instead of a separate app.
I just get horrible battery life. I'm running:
ROM: VirusROM Airbourne RC3.4
Kernel: 2.6.32.15-netarchy-toast mod-4.1.9.1-cfs with aggressive undervolting
And underclocked as far as you can go.
Getting horrible battery life even on standby just wondering if having a ATK would help out at all I know Android your not supposed to really one but at this point I'm willing to try. I mean I'm a moderate phone user but I figured the battery should last at least a few hours. I can't leave home without a charger.
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I'm pretty new here but have been doing alot of research here. I would go into settings, battery and see if your phone has been searching for a signal. Mine is at 0% and i get great battery life but iknow this has been a big drain on the battery if your phone is spending a lot of time searching for a signal .
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I just get horrible battery life. I'm running:
ROM: VirusROM Airbourne RC3.4
Kernel: 2.6.32.15-netarchy-toast mod-4.1.9.1-cfs with aggressive undervolting
And underclocked as far as you can go.
Getting horrible battery life even on standby just wondering if having a ATK would help out at all I know Android your not supposed to really one but at this point I'm willing to try. I mean I'm a moderate phone user but I figured the battery should last at least a few hours. I can't leave home without a charger.
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Try JuiceDefender
You don't need it with an evo, but I did find that 2.1 didn't do a glorious job of freeing up memory with my RAM-less Samsung Moment. In that case, I needed to kill stuff that didn't always come back or as frequently. With the EVO, I've seen no reason so far to have it.
I run ATK, SystemPanel, and occasionally EStrong Task Manager.
Not to kill but because I like to see whats running.
People jump to conclusions the second you mention Task Killer. (*Points up*)
I honestly get better battery life with task killers because an app that's consuming cpu won't get killed by android because i have 260mb free memory, I can kill it manually.
Anyways, Could try tweaking the built in task manager with this:
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-dustypixels-minfreemanager-wiAA.aspx MinFreeManager.
So I've flashed over to incredibly RE-engineered and I heard about the great battery life and speed. I sure did have a more noticeable speed improvement but my battery life hasn't gotten any better. Any reasons why this might be? And for some reason I can't load any videos off hulu either. Anyone have these similar problems?
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So I've flashed over to incredibly RE-engineered and I heard about the great battery life and speed. I sure did have a more noticeable speed improvement but my battery life hasn't gotten any better. Any reasons why this might be? And for some reason I can't load any videos off hulu either. Anyone have these similar problems?
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Everyone's battery life is different because everyone uses their phone differently. One person may get great battery life because they don't do much with the phone, and someone else will try the same, but they do a lot of streaming, web browsing, etc and have horrible battery life. It's all trial and error until YOU find the combination that works well for YOU.
And the hulu problem I believe there is a fix for it in the thread. Search the thread for Hulu and you should be able to find it. (I am not sure of this because I don't use the rom, but I believe I read something about it when I tried it out.)
Battery life if tough to compare due to reasons above. When I was syncing a corporate email account via active sync I was getting 9-10 hours o this rom. I am no longer using active sync and right now am at 15 hrs 37 minutes since unplugged at 62%. Awake time is about 5 hours on this charge. This is with stock battery.
Exchange active sync is a hog.
I use my phone pretty often and Im usually texting and browsing on the net. But my battery life is maybe 6 or 7 hours? I haven't really gone all the way down to empty but that seems about right. Is that decent?
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I use my phone pretty often and Im usually texting and browsing on the net. But my battery life is maybe 6 or 7 hours? I haven't really gone all the way down to empty but that seems about right. Is that decent?
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That's not quite good. On my stock battery I'm getting around 15-25 depending on use. Maybe check your settings for battery hogs?
I'm using chads kernel, have sync on every hour for weather and my friend stream tied accounts.no gps on though.
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I'm not sure what's wrong with my phone. My battery usage says that most of my battery is being used by cell standby and the android system. Should I reflash the rom and see if that helps? I want incredible battery life too this battery life is pretty much the same as a stock rom which is why I flashed in the first place : more battery life!
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I'm not a power user but I get better battery life with this ROM. Yeah, maybe you should wipe and re-install the ROM. I would then not install any apps and see what your battery life is like. Disable auto-syncing too. Maybe you have an app sucking the battery down.
Is there an app that i can download to monitor my battery usage? I know you can check it through the "About Systems " menu but I almost don't trust it.
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Spare Parts has the ability to let you know what's using the battery.
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How do I tell what is using it through spare parts? Nothing really stands out?
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Running a faster rom like re engineered, if battery life is super important, you can use setcpu to underclock slightly at all times, and lot at screen off. It comes with a lou's kernel, which he doesn't recommend using setcpu with, but I've always had great luck with king klix kernals, which also undervolt.
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Hi, im planning to buy this phone. It looks cool, already Gingerbread, included the awesome HTC sense
But, things that i want to know is the weakness of wildfire s?
I really appreciate any reply. Thank you for helping me
Slow cpu. Only 600mhz while most other devices are higher such as the Samsung galaxy Ace which is clocked at 800mhz
When it comes to benchmarking thought that very same 600Mhz cpu performs nearly as well as the Desire with 1Ghz Snapdragon processor.Its not that slow!
Just got it yesterday, and as long as you use taskkiller or something else you should have an adequate experience (depending on what you had before). It may also take some time to get used to the size of screen (keyboard typing), but that's usually an isuue whenever you switch screen sizes.
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I got my wildfire s one week ago and I came from a samsung spica. Is a big difference in responsiveness of display, more ram and rom memory, multitasking and better cpu, but, in my opinion the weak point is HTC Sense UI and all the stuff from htc already installed. I'd prefer a clean android. I hope will be rooted for a cyanogen rom.
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but, in my opinion the weak point is HTC Sense UI and all the stuff from htc already installed.
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I also think so. there are too many unwanted app in HTC.
However, there is enough RAM.
HTC's gallery app doesn't support picasa web, which you should remember, and I didn't know that.
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Got mine on 2nd June. Its battery life isn't great. I use Auto Kill task manager to turn off unwanted apps, turn off wifi, GPS and bluetooth to save power and i get about a day's worth of phone calls from 9.30 am to 7.30pm. By then the battery drops to 15% or less.
I suggest not playing angry birds on battery for long as this drains the battery faster. The phone is otherwise quite good and even apps run well on it. A 1500mAH battery would have been great and hoping one comes out soon.
Task killers do more harm than good. As the phone has 2.3.3 there is no need to use a task killer as android has its own system to kill apps that are using the most battery life. Also if you look in the power section on the settings there is an option to enable power saver which restricts the power to your phone allowing more battery life.
Without the task killer the battery was draining too fast. Now am getting much better battery life. I've also turned off GPS, bluetooth and keep WiFi off unless needed. HAptic feedback is off too and have kept screen brightness down and no live wallpapers. These thigns together give me some hours more. Strangely even though haptic (vibration) feedback is supposed to be off it does give feedback when typing and when the phone rings. Might be a bug in the OS. Could others verify this too please?
My original Wildfire lasted about a day. But please dont use task killers. Everywhere you look they say dont use task killers:
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
battery performance
I purchased wildfire s on 01/06/2011. battery performance is poor. It is not lasting more than 8 hours even though Wi-Fi, GPS, 3G, background data,bluetooth,autq-sync etc are disabled. power saver is on and phone is not used for calls also and signal strength is good. In HTC FORUMS it was suggested that "The HTC HD7 Windows phones battery is compatible with this phone. I have ordered one & read some others saying it works plus it has higher capacity @ 1,500mAh. With a 600mhz processor & HVGA screen battery should last a while."
Battery performance.......
I have just got a Wildfire S and on it's first charge I've got 4 days 8 hours. The battery meter is now down to two bars but I'd expect to get another day. This is with the following turned OFF Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS, Mobile Network. So yes there's not much I can do other than make phones calls and send texts. After my next charge I'll put moble networks back on and see what the outcome is.
thanks guys answering my questions..
i think CPU is not really a big problem for me. i dont play HD games, and use it overloaded.
And screen is doesnt matter as well. have been using Xperia X8 which is much more smaller
HTC Sense has its own built in task killer if i remember rightly? Liowmemory settings...If your rootes (S-OFF) download autokill off the market to change the "aggression" settings
Battery upgrade!
"Mugen Power" have a 1500mAh battery for this phone.
Just google and you will find...
(mugen-power-batteries.com/htc/htc-wildfire-s/mugen-power-1500mah-extended-battery-for-htc-wildfire-s-a510e.html#)
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HTC Sense has its own built in task killer if i remember rightly? Liowmemory settings...If your rootes (S-OFF) download autokill off the market to change the "aggression" settings
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Android has it's own battery monitor that kills apps not Sense.
Hello,
i bought my Wildfire S yesterday and made a full charge after unpacking.
Uptime of my Wildfire S: 35:50:00 h
Active time: 12h.
Due to the fact i used it pretty much i think there will be much more, if i stop playing around
I had a HD2 before and and i think the Wildfire S is a little bit slower. I don't play games on my smartphone, so that i can't say which differences there are in 3D-mode.
I hope i could help.
Games like tap tap revenge and angry birds work very well. Also pocket legends plays well considering it is 3d and is an MMO.
I am really confused.. some guys says the battery is awesome..but some here says it very poor....
Also can we use unrevoked to flash Wildfire S??
Hi all,
Im in the process of getting a new contract, and I have 2 options, the Galaxy W or HTC desire S, I was going to get the desire S until i saw the W, hwt ado you alll think,
I compared the two and it was a tie on here
http://geekaphone.com/compare/Samsung-GALAXY-W-vs-HTC-Desire-S
Also will the W be getting ICS?
Thanks.
Well from my expwrience with the W (and having a friend with the DesireS) I can say that I'm really satisfied with my purchase.
The phone itself is pretty speedy (and even speedier if you root it and uninstall the Samsung bloatware plus anything that you don't need) and quite nice to held in hand.
As far as I know it won't get the ICS update, at least officially.
But who cares, in CyanogenMod we trust.
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I don't yet hava a smartphone and I had the same dilemma...
As far as I can tell the Desire S only advantage is the bigger ram, but the Galaxy W has a newer technology as the blutooth, flash, browser and codecs support.
I will know if my decision was good by the end of the week.
anyway, i couldn't find a batter "bang for the buck" in that price range...
I had a long hard look at both these phones before I ended up buying the Galaxy W.
The Desire S is much more well built, but that made it very heavy.
The screen is better on the W than the DS. It just looks much more crisp.
The glass is also alot smooth on the W, no smudge stays after a quick wipe. I hear it is also Gorilla Glass alternative from Samsung. Very impressed.
The W doesnt have a LED notification light, which is annoying.
The W is much faster in terms of CPU, opening the browser for instance was quicker on the W than the DS, but the DS has a much better UI, Sense is far better than TouchWiz.
Battery life on the W is good once you remove the bloat. I get well over 20hrs, that includes calls and gaming.
The W feels plastic'y but not bad due to how light it is. Like a feather.
There is far more community support for the DS than the W, but as you can see we are growing
All in all, both phones are great, but the extra CPU grunt makes it a winner for the W.
Vyker you I couldn't have described it better. Excellent comparison.
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what about the ore RAM u get with the Desire S? it is not a big-a-deal?
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what about the ore RAM u get with the Desire S? it is not a big-a-deal?
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Depends on what you think RAM is?
Yes, it is true to say, "the more the better".
But what does it actually mean to the end user, trying to make a phone call, or play a quick round of a game?
The reality is, 512Mb of RAM on the SGW is more than enough. If used correctly, you should have about 50Mb free at all times, this means that you are using the RAM as intended, to run your phone.
I have on my phone, about 13 applications running all the time, and have 50Mb free. I would rather have only 10-20Mb free, as this means more has been given to make sure my phone runs smoothly.
There are mis-conceptions that "OMFG I only have 20mb left, this phone is ****" are wrong. It doesn't mean you dont have enough. It just means it is being used correctly.
Anyhow, for Gingerbread, 512Mb is perfectly fine to run your phone and your apps. It won't be slow! Don't worry.
You will notice a drop in performance because of CPU clock speed [[email protected] and [email protected]] more than you would because of less RAM. Bear that in mind!
Good Luck!
Answered my question! thank you!
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I had a long hard look at both these phones before I ended up buying the Galaxy W.
The Desire S is much more well built, but that made it very heavy.
The screen is better on the W than the DS. It just looks much more crisp.
The glass is also alot smooth on the W, no smudge stays after a quick wipe. I hear it is also Gorilla Glass alternative from Samsung. Very impressed.
The W doesnt have a LED notification light, which is annoying.
The W is much faster in terms of CPU, opening the browser for instance was quicker on the W than the DS, but the DS has a much better UI, Sense is far better than TouchWiz.
Battery life on the W is good once you remove the bloat. I get well over 20hrs, that includes calls and gaming.
The W feels plastic'y but not bad due to how light it is. Like a feather.
There is far more community support for the DS than the W, but as you can see we are growing
All in all, both phones are great, but the extra CPU grunt makes it a winner for the W.
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@Viker You said
"Battery life on the W is good once you remove the bloat. I get well over 20hrs, that includes calls and gaming."
I'd really be grateful if you could explain a bit more what else you've done to acheive this...because I've also rooted and frozen several system apps just as you advised, following the spreadsheet you gave...but I'm getting no significant improvement in battery life(I'm still around 10hrs on moderate usage with Juice Defender). I AM getting a much smoother experience though. I'm still on stock EU ROM KKL3 by the way. Glad for the help
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Congratulations
Just to share in high hope I am not alone :
I have been using Juice Defender on my HTC Tattoo until now with my SGW i8150 and decided to stop using it and I noticed a change of the battery life as below :
- It seems that the battery lasts even longer
- I am on Unlimited Data
I have not made any further test n I will soon here
2g11, I'd start by removing Juice defender.
One of the best battery savers in Android is to have no "ongoing notification" apps.
In other words, dont let any app running constantly in your notification bar.
The only apps I have running constantly are message apps [SMS, GMail, WhatsApp] and widgets. Everything is not needed.
Since I moved to GO Launcher EX, and stopped using TouchWiz, I've noticed my battery life got worse. So if you use any other Launcher, switch back to TouchWiz.
Hi guys,
Just did a little experiment and needless to say, the results arent surprising. I unfroze all the bloat, unrooted and tadaaa!!....my SGW back to the 'respectable' battery life I used to have with Juice Defender!! This could mean:
1) With the root access, certain apps just override juice defender and switch on the data link at will...OR
2) I dont have a clue..any ideas guys?
BTW: I emailed JD about my experience..still waiting for response
I'm beginning to think I might have to root, freeze the apps then unroot to get the best performance and battery, but will that work?
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Why freeze when you can just back them up and uninstall right away?
At the moment I'm rooted and uninstalled all the bloatware plus other things I don't need and I get around 20+ hours of battery life with mid-high usage on mobile data (since AFAIK wireless drains a lot less battery).
I'm not that sure that rooting impacts battery life that much
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@banelicious Do you use Juice Defender?
I notice lots of people get good battery life WITHOUT juicedefender. The only decent battery life I've had (20+ hrs) was using JD. Dont know maybe I have a slightly weaker battery but I intend to install the new EU FW (XLA2), root/backup/uninstall bloat then see how the battery lasts (without JD).
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@banelicious Do you use Juice Defender?
I notice lots of people get good battery life WITHOUT juicedefender. The only decent battery life I've had (20+ hrs) was using JD. Dont know maybe I have a slightly weaker battery but I intend to install the new EU FW (XLA2), root/backup/uninstall bloat then see how the battery lasts (without JD).
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No I'm not using JD, I just uninstall ed the crap out of my phone.
The W battery is a 1700mAh one,not that bad.
I'm installing juice right now, I'll let you know how it goes
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Did you say 1700? Mine is 1500. Did you get a replacement battery or the italian version has a bigger battery? All the spec sheets I saw had 1500mAh so this is a real surprise...
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1700? you are using the original one?
1700, stock with the phone (bought in early december). I'll post a shot when I get home from work, and I'll check the manual also
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Good discussion, but just to let everyone know, I ended up getting a HTC sensation
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nice!
by the way, anyone know where to buy a good quality spare battery?
Hello,
I know all of you have heard this time and time again. I'm sure I'm going to create a huge battle discussion, which I don't want honestly. But I've searched throughout the forums with no luck, and if I've missed this, please direct me and delete the post. So, with that said, hear me out..
I understand apples iPhone's battery tends to last long because of the not so true multitasking, and there are hundreds of ways to make androids battery life significant.
I was just wondering if there was any ROM, kernel, etc to get rid of the "android true multitasking" to increase battery life. Myself as an android user, never tend to use widgets or really have any use for multitasking anyways. I play on facebook, text, and make calls periodically. Anyone want to chime in without blowing my head off on this one?
ICS and JB both have an option under settings/developer options called Background process limit.
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ICS and JB both have an option under settings/developer options called Background process limit.
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Did not know that. Thank you.
Does this increase battery life, that you know of?
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Did not know that. Thank you.
Does this increase battery life, that you know of?
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It increases a lot, but I personally don't recommend that
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It increases a lot, but I personally don't recommend that
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Really? Doesn't seem like it would or even that it would increase battery usage since apps have to be restarted every time.
It will definitely free up ram, but that's not really an issue with the GNex.
I should probably also state that I'm on Vicious CM10 w/ stock kernel, and have not yet seen more then 10 hours and 2 hours on screen time.
For my opinion I think depend on lifestyle you use phone
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For my opinion I think depend on lifestyle you use phone
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True, but I only use my phone for browsing facebook, xda, and text messaging. I never play games, use youtube, netflix, or any other battery drainer. I also keep 4g off. I would think I could get more then 10 hours and 2 hour screen time with the 2100 mah extended battery (already exchanged for a new, so it's not the battery)