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I have an HTC Incredible that i ran the first unrevoked2 update to get root on my device, then unrevoked3 to get s-off. I then was pushed the 2.2 OTA update, which when done through the phone fail. So, like an idiot of course, I ran the update.zip from clockworkmod and now my device is acting all strange (practically bricked).
After the update, the 'droid' eye loads, then goes to a white HTC page where a small dialogue box goes from 0 to 95% then reboots, repeatedly, until I interrupt this via a battery pull. I then get into my phone, but the camera, sdcard, wifi, etc are not recognized. Eventually I get a force close prompt for 'system' which I can wait or force close, either choice, my device will reboot at max 5 minutes.
I have the following showing at HBOOT
Incredible XC Ship S-ON (i ran the s-on update now)
HBOOT-0.77.0000
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RADIO-2.15.00.07.28
I'd like to get my phone either running Froyo, or back to the stock ROM, and am in need of help. I've ran several PB31IMG.zip files located through numerous guides and dozens of searches to try and get back to stock, but I either get 'update failed' because of some kind of version check, or the update doesn't work (maybe now because I'm s-on?).
I'm in sad need of help, I found another thread where someone else was in my similar situation on another forum but its old, no one is responding, and the update worked for them and not myself. I'd really appreciate it if someone would walk me through un-screwing my device if possible. Much appreciated.
alright well if i was you i would do this.
turn security back off (s-off)
grab the PB31IMG.zip for 2.2 froyo/ or if you want the ota again grab the 2.1
then it should work fine. but i also see the your hboot is not up to date for froyo so maybe find the PB31IMG.zip for 0.92 hboot. i dont have any idea about where it is located but i have the file for 2.2. but alas, i dont have a place to upload it soo yeeaaah. anyway that is what my first choice would be. choose to follow or not.
p.s. i know i say but alot haha
BTW yes, PB31IMG's wont work because you are s-on. and the ota probably did not work because you had clockworkmod recovery instead of stock recovery. thats all i got for ya. hope my terrible explanations help
Well, this might be more promising.
I did notice that my HBOOT was quite out of date, so amongst all of the files I've downloaded, I'm pretty sure the one that might have done it for me was the RUU update file. I of course re-ran the s-off update from unrevoked-forever, then started hacking away at the RUU update. I downloaded the RUU update from Google, ran it, copied the rom.zip file from the temporary files location, renamed it to PB31IMG.zip, copied it to the root, and then poof, noticed the HBOOT was updated (looks like this could have been the root problem).
Needless to say, i'm back to setting up my device (raw), hope that I can still get to root on my device; but at least I'm back to an operating phone!
OK
Looks like I'm at HBOOT-0.92.0000 with IncredibleC XC ship S-OFF still; RADIO-2.15.00.07.28.
Doesn't look like I have a recovery mode (clockworkmod).
I'm guessing if I'm going to root my device I'll need to re-install clockworkmod? Thanks for any future help.
so you still have the reboot thing, going on
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so you still have the reboot thing, going on
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No, my device is unbricked (so to speak). Since updating using the full RUU it successfully re-flashed everything. Only problem I have to fix now is rooting my device again.
Well I guess I have my work cut out for me searching how to get my s-off phone rooted again. Anyone got a suggestion?
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if your phone is s-off then search around for a custom recovery in the pb31img format. flash in bootloader, reboot into recovery and flash the rooted rom of your choice.
So my fix was:
1. Ensure phone is already rooted and S-OFF
2. download RUU_Incredible_C_Froyo_VERIZON_WWE_3.21.605.1_Radio_2.15.00.07.28.exe
3. Run the RUU file
4. Go to my temporary files location, sort by date, and look for the rom.zip file
5. copy that file off someplace else and rename it PB31IMG.zip, cancel RUU Update program
6. Copy PB31IMG.zip to the root of the SD Card
7. Boot my device holding volume down (HBOOT)
8. Allow the update to proceed (will reboot phone almost immediately to update HBOOT from 0.77 to 0.92)
9. Once update was completed, phone reboots final time after prompt
10. Setup phone again (RUU Update is a clean flash)
Still looking out for better instructions on how to re-root my device other than a manual one, but if I must then I must =) Was hoping that I could use unrevoked3, but the last push didn't work out.
you have to do it manually cause unrevoked doest work on newest ota
I can help you reroot if you need it. Im glad you have everythig else worked out though. Congratulations!
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ok well basically load this in bootloader and you are rerooted.
the download link for the file is here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?oj6aqi1ceqpm58g
patalo said:
ok well basically load this in bootloader and you are rerooted.
the download link for the file is here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?oj6aqi1ceqpm58g
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So that PB31IMG.zip (renamed) will re-install the most recent clockworkmod recovery? I saw some other post which also had a 'payload-update.zip' and a 'su-2.3.2.1-ef-signed.zip' file ... not sure if I'm missing something.
Also, according to their latest release (their = unrevoked), http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3 - This supposedly works with all versions of supported phones. Of course, when I go to http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked2 it says that unrevoked3 doesn't work with stock Android 2.2 phones... which I'm guessing might be my condition since I had to flash the rom.zip file from RUU_Incredible_C_Froyo_VERIZON_WWE_3.21.605.1_Radio_2.15.00.07.28_2k4k_NV_1.50_PRL58006_release_143351_signed.exe that I got from google.
Some clarification would be appreciated.
Looks like I'm back to root. Ran the PB31IMG.zip that was about 2.86mb, then payload-update.zip and the Su zip (anyone know where the most recent one is? Says there is an update).
Now to test WiFi tether again, see if I still need that evo driver still.
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You don't need the payload and stuff. After s-off all you need is the clockworkmod PB31IMG.zip to get root back
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The wifi tether has nothig to do with root. On some roms or just sometimes it wont work.
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I Have a Question, Would it be Possible to Root the Phone With a Update.zip From Android Recovery, Where it Says (Install From Update.zip)? Either That or Turn S-Off, Or Install Su, Clockwork Recovery...... Something? If Someone Can Help Please Do!! Or If Someone Can Try to Sign a Update.zip For Me With S-Off in it!! (Unrevoked.4Ever) I'd Loveto Find a Easier way that can be Done WITHOUT CONNECTING TO A (USB) PORT PC!!
Technically no. Because rooting your device is getting rid of the stock recovery so you can install rims and whatnot. But you can root through hboot easily with s-off or with s-on use unrevoked.
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So I'm wondering if the payload-update.zip was damaging in some way.
In any event, now I'm constantly being nagged about another 17.7mb update from Verizon which of course, like the Android 2.2 update, won't apply via the usual system update message.
I don't know where I can find this file, but it says this:
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Android Update
Downloaded and verified 17.7 MB
This software update includes the installation of V CAST Apps, Slacker, and many other improvements for your DRIOD Incredible by HTC. ... blah blah blah ...
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I don't know if this is the infamous 'November' update or not. I know that I updated my rom from the RUU file downloaded from dl.google.com, so its possible that I don't have this patching. Some clarification on what this download is, where I can find it (online or my phone), and if it is possible to apply this update and how (so I don't keep getting annoyed with it).
Recently my phone was working fine until today. I was on mikfroyo 4.4 everything was fine until i decided to flash an unimportant file, when i reboot it my phone was doing boot loops, so i decided to wipe everything and flash a clean mikfroyo 4.4 again. it worked for a couple hours, later my phone started to freeze, i took the battery out and i got stuck on the white screen logo.. i tried to take battery out for a couple times and nothing.. i tired to go into recovery mode(amon-ra 2.2.1) and i could not get into recovery, it kept on freezing i was like WTF!! then i tried to go into bootloader and that worked fine, but when i choose to boot into recovery via bootloader it did boot into recovery but then it froze again in recovery.. So at the end nothing worked but bootloader.. then i decided to flash a ROM via bootloader (PC36IMG.zip) and that fixed all the problems temporarily (it did not freeze).. but then I notice that that was a stock unrooted PC36IMG file so i lost root and it put back the HTC stock recovery (NOT AMON-RA nor CLOCKWORK).. then the problems started again (the same from above).. but since i rooted my phone via unrevoked forever i had S-OFF.. so i flashed AMON_RA recovery via bootloader to see if I could flash unrevoked-forever-son (that way i could have S-ON and send it to sprint for a replacement) but again it kept on freezing on recovery mode.... so my question is is there anyway i can flash unrevoked-forever-son via bootloader.... that way i can send it to sprint and tell them that my phone keeps on freezing.
Nothing works but bootloader, everything else freezes (recovery mode and while trying to boot the phone)
I will apreciate your time and help.
Did you try running unrevoked son as PC36img.zip?, then the stock RUU. (doesn't sound like it could hurt, lol)
but what kind of files would i put inside pc36img?
You don't put anything inside the PC36IMG.zip file. It comes ready to go from the unrevoked team:
How can this be removed or undone if I need to take my phone in for service?
Download the latest ''S-ON'' tool to a temporary location and follow the installation instructions above to run it. Once your phone is S-ON, you may lose root permanently if you install an official update
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- So go here: http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
- Find the section I quoted above
- Download the PC36IMG.zip file
- Put it on the root of your SD card
- Power off
- Hold vol down + power
- Once in HBOOT it will automatically find/ask to run the PC36IMG.zip file
- volia! s-on
I know, i understand that process but my problem is that i cant go into recovery AT ALL it frezzes each time neither to boot my phone normally... the only thing that works fine is bootloader.. so what i am trying to look for is a way to flash the s-on tool via botloader bc i can not go into recovery.
the pc36img contains the stock unrooted ROM - supposed to be flashed via bootloader (i have already done this process so i lost root)
and when you download the S-on tool it comes in a zip file that is suppose to be flash thru recovery not bootloader (and this will be my final step which is not done yet)
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I know, i understand that process but my problem is that i cant go into recovery AT ALL it frezzes each time neither to boot my phone normally... the only thing that works fine is bootloader.. so what i am trying to look for is a way to flash the s-on tool via botloader bc i can not go into recovery.
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Edit: one sec -- I am looking for a PC36IMG.zip that did s-on.
spiicytuna said:
I am looking for a PC36IMG.zip that did s-on; I've used it recently on a friends evo
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This is what i was looking for i hope you can find it!! !!!
I was looking for a way to have the s-on tool inside a PC36IMG.zip.. i didnt think it was possible
But isn't that process (PC36IMG.zip) only for things that suppose to be flash thru bootloader? like slpash screens, recoverys, boot.img? so in what category does the s-on tool fits?
I'm sorry for all this questions but i dont wanna make my phone worse then what already is.
I think your best bet is to hop on freenode and join channel #unrevokedtest
Easiest way to do this is here: http://webchat.freenode.net/
They'll be able to help you for sure. LazyDog and joshua_ are two good people to look for.
thank you man.. but nope is confirmed you can not put put the S-on tool into a PC36IMG.zip ima have to tell sprint that i lost it.
yoboii23 said:
thank you man.. but nope is confirmed you can not put put the S-on tool into a PC36IMG.zip ima have to tell sprint that i lost it.
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Did you talk to the guys on irc? Seriously, I've seen them preform some miracles.
PS. The chances of Sprint checking s-on/off is highly unlikely.
You can use the pc36img from amon ra's thread to flash the recovery and then use it to lock your nand. Afterward all you have to do is run the ruu one more time and you will be good to go
I agree with what was said before. The likelihood that they'll look at S-On is VERY small. I would just take it in, tell them its freezing all the time, and ask for a replacement. If by some crazy chance they do look at S-On, just play dumb and pretend you don't even know what it is. If you've got a cute lookin girl to help you that'd be willing to take it in, all the better
Otherwise, try running the RUU for your build number. We'll go from there if you still have problems.
I fixed it, it was all due to a ripped cable inside my evo I don't knw how that happened but it happened lol all I had to do was replace my screen.
And yea I did talk to guys from unrevoked.. they r pretty smart and understood my problem quick but were unable to help me.
I am new to rooting a phone and have read count less threads on this site. First I have to say that this is one of the best forums I have come across. My first question I have decided to use the Universal Auto Root method found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
First I want to stay with the Stock Evo Rom for now, not the Sprint Lovers Rom. Is there a way to not flash that rom using UAR or can I just Flash the Stock rom back after I have rooted the phone. If I have to flash the stock rom back then can someone point me in the right direction for a tutorial with the stock rom. I have modded other things besides phones and have no problem reading to find the answers. Most people that have problems just say "Oh I will root my phone today" and do not do the research before hand and in up with a paper weight. I have been read for about a week now and am just now getting to where I understand parts of the process.
Smurph82 said:
I am new to rooting a phone and have read count less threads on this site. First I have to say that this is one of the best forums I have come across. My first question I have decided to use the Universal Auto Root method found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
First I want to stay with the Stock Evo Rom for now, not the Sprint Lovers Rom. Is there a way to not flash that rom using UAR or can I just Flash the Stock rom back after I have rooted the phone. If I have to flash the stock rom back then can someone point me in the right direction for a tutorial with the stock rom. I have modded other things besides phones and have no problem reading to find the answers. Most people that have problems just say "Oh I will root my phone today" and do not do the research before hand and in up with a paper weight. I have been read for about a week now and am just now getting to where I understand parts of the process.
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I'm not familiar with that root method, so I'm not sure if there's a way to bypass the flashing of SpringtLovers, although I'd assume there is a way. Any time I've ever used Unrevoked to root, it never touched the ROM. After using Unrevoked, all the apps I previously had are still there and its on the same ROM. The only differences are that the bootloader will be S-off, you'll have clockwork recovery flashed, and you'll have the Super User app. With all that said, Sprint Lovers is about the exact same thing as stock, as far as I can tell. I flashed it on my girl's phone, because she liked her stock rom. The only differences are I noticed are very subtle, such as the battery indicator having the % value in it, the wireless tether app being added, and I believe it's deodexed. (and probably a few other things, maybe some optimizations and stuff) But as far as looks, it's identical to a stock ROM.
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I'm not familiar with that root method, so I'm not sure if there's a way to bypass the flashing of Spring Lovers, although I'd assume there is a way. Any time I've ever used Unrevoked to root, it never touched the ROM. After using Unrevoked, all the apps I previously had are still there and its on the same ROM. The only differences are that the bootloader will be S-off, you'll have clockwork recovery flashed, and you'll have the Super User app. With all that said, Sprint Lovers is about the exact same thing as stock, as far as I can tell. I flashed it on my girl's phone, because she liked her stock rom. The only differences are I noticed are very subtle, such as the battery indicator having the % value in it, the wireless tether app being added, and I believe it's deodexed. (and probably a few other things, maybe some optimizations and stuff) But as far as looks, it's identical to a stock ROM.
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You're correct, the only thing unrevoked does is root your phone and roots your current rom, in this case, stock with root access. So OP, I think you may want to use unrevoked for this case.
I have read that Amon Ra is better than clockwork recovery that was the main reason I was thinking of the UAR. Weird thing is that my system just finished a virus scan and it said that the UAR had something called Lotoor in it. Now I don't that I will download it. Is there a way to use unrevoked and then put Amon Ra on it. Better yet I have read that the Toast method is good but I have not found it in a tutorial. Is there one available. If I use unrevoked then how do you get clockwork removed and install Amon Ra.
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I have read that Amon Ra is better than clockwork recovery that was the main reason I was thinking of the UAR. Weird thing is that my system just finished a virus scan and it said that the UAR had something called Lotoor in it. Now I don't that I will download it. Is there a way to use unrevoked and then put Amon Ra on it. Better yet I have read that the Toast method is good but I have not found it in a tutorial. Is there one available. If I use unrevoked then how do you get clockwork removed and install Amon Ra.
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Flash the file attached in the bootloader. Apply update, reboot, and then reboot back into recovery and you'll be on amon_ra 2.3. The amon_ra recovery is inside it, no needc to rename or extract the file.
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Flash the file attached in the bootloader. Apply update, reboot, and then reboot back into recovery and you'll be on amon_ra 2.3. The amon_ra recovery is inside it, no needc to rename or extract the file.
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Yup, like teh roxx said, you can use Unrevoked, then change to Amon Ra. And yes, Amon Ra is better (in my opinion). You can change recoveries any time you want, you could try them both out and see which works better for you if you wanted to. If you do run Unrevoked, just be sure that you remove htc sync, that you install the hboot drivers, and that you have no programs on your pc running that can talk to your phone (htc sync, pda net, easytether, doubletwist etc etc) and you also want to disable your anti virus when you run it, as that can also interfere.
Ok just so I get this straight first. The easiest way to do this would be to first use Unrevoked v3.32 to get root. Then go into recovery and with that image in the root of the sd card and update the phone with it. Then reboot and I would have Amon Ra installed after that. Would the affect unrevoked from working by changing from clockwork to Amon Ra. After I ran unrevoked would I need to run the unrevoked forever as well.
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Ok just so I get this straight first. The easiest way to do this would be to first use Unrevoked v3.32 to get root. Then go into recovery and with that image in the root of the sd card and update the phone with it. Then reboot and I would have Amon Ra installed after that. Would the affect unrevoked from working by changing from clockwork to Amon Ra. After I ran unrevoked would I need to run the unrevoked forever as well.
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After using unrevoked, you boot into the bootloader, the white screen with the androids skating boarding to flash the file, not recovery, and then reboot. And no, changing recoveries after using unrevoked won't affect it, and yes, you would flash the forever zip in recovery after doing the previous steps.
Last question I promise because it is getting late here and I am not going to do this right now maybe tomorrow, well later today. Does running Unrevoked give you a full root. I have read that a full root is where the nand is unlocked and that gives you the ability to run nandroid to back up your phone. Also To remove root if I ever needed to go stock again do I uninstall unrevoked or to I install the lastest RUU from Sprint, and if so where to find them.
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Last question I promise because it is getting late here and I am not going to do this right now maybe tomorrow, well later today. Does running Unrevoked give you a full root. I have read that a full root is where the nand is unlocked and that gives you the ability to run nandroid to back up your phone. Also To remove root if I ever needed to go stock again do I uninstall unrevoked or to I install the lastest RUU from Sprint, and if so where to find them.
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Unrevoked give you root, but flashing the unrevoked forever gives you the nand unlock. And to unroot, you flash the S-ON tool, then you flash the lastest RUU for you hboot, in this case, 3.70.
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Last question I promise because it is getting late here and I am not going to do this right now maybe tomorrow, well later today. Does running Unrevoked give you a full root. I have read that a full root is where the nand is unlocked and that gives you the ability to run nandroid to back up your phone. Also To remove root if I ever needed to go stock again do I uninstall unrevoked or to I install the lastest RUU from Sprint, and if so where to find them.
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Unrevoked does give you full root, nand unlocked. Full root capabilities. Nandroid backups and restore galore. To unroot, you flash the unrevoked s on tool with recovery. Then run RUU. That's it. Nice and simple.
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Last question I promise because it is getting late here and I am not going to do this right now maybe tomorrow, well later today. Does running Unrevoked give you a full root. I have read that a full root is where the nand is unlocked and that gives you the ability to run nandroid to back up your phone. Also To remove root if I ever needed to go stock again do I uninstall unrevoked or to I install the lastest RUU from Sprint, and if so where to find them.
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http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/194918-rooting-dummies.html
this thread is very helpful for the unrevoked method, and yes unrevoked gives you full root including nand
k2buckley how did you get your details and specs in your post. I looked for somewhere to add them but I could not find them anywhere.
teh roxxorz said:
Unrevoked give you root, but flashing the unrevoked forever gives you the nand unlock. And to unroot, you flash the S-ON tool, then you flash the lastest RUU for you hboot, in this case, 3.70.
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Actually, Unrevoked unlocks NAND, too. Honestly, I don't know what the difference it between Unrevoked and Unrevoked Forever, but the regular Unrevoked turns "s" off, too. I've rooted two Evo's within the past month with the regular Unrevoked, and "s" was off and I flashed custom roms and all on both of the phones.
From the unrevoked website:
"unrevoked3 will permanently unlock NAND write protection by default on the following phones"
"unrevoked forever is a tool to set your Android phone's security level to S-OFF."
I've wondered what the difference is between one and the other for a good while now.
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k2buckley how did you get your details and specs in your post. I looked for somewhere to add them but I could not find them anywhere.
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Go into the "user CP" and edit your signature.
rugedraw said:
Actually, Unrevoked unlocks NAND, too. Honestly, I don't know what the difference it between Unrevoked and Unrevoked Forever, but the regular Unrevoked turns "s" off, too. I've rooted two Evo's within the past month with the regular Unrevoked, and "s" was off and I flashed custom roms and all on both of the phones.
From the unrevoked website:
"unrevoked3 will permanently unlock NAND write protection by default on the following phones"
"unrevoked forever is a tool to set your Android phone's security level to S-OFF."
I've wondered what the difference is between one and the other for a good while now.
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Well yes, it does give you nand unlock, but if you don't flash the forever zip, you won't be able to make the system changes, like changing the splash screen.
From the site: "unrevoked forever is a tool to set your Android phone's security level to S-OFF. The security level is a flag stored on the radio; when the flag is S-OFF, the bootloader (HBOOT) will no longer check the signatures of firmware images before flashing them. This allows custom firmware images to be uploaded, including unsigned boot, recovery, splash1, and hboot images (as well as official images that have been modified). When the system is S-OFF, the NAND flash memory protection is also reduced; this allows all partitions (including /system) to be written to while the operating system is booted."
teh roxxorz said:
Well yes, it does give you nand unlock, but if you don't flash the forever zip, you won't be able to make the system changes, like changing the splash screen.
From the site: "unrevoked forever is a tool to set your Android phone's security level to S-OFF. The security level is a flag stored on the radio; when the flag is S-OFF, the bootloader (HBOOT) will no longer check the signatures of firmware images before flashing them. This allows custom firmware images to be uploaded, including unsigned boot, recovery, splash1, and hboot images (as well as official images that have been modified). When the system is S-OFF, the NAND flash memory protection is also reduced; this allows all partitions (including /system) to be written to while the operating system is booted."
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Hmmm....so on the phones I used Unrevoked3 on, I will not be able to push/flash a splash screen onto it? I still don't quite understand the difference, but thanks for your input. I obviously still have A LOT to learn. lol
I keep seeing where people are using something called the Toast method to root their phone. Is that where you do everything from the command line. I bet a lot of people don't even remember the command line haha. Is there really any difference between the two (Unrevoked and Toast). What about security. Does rooting with Unrevoked have any back doors or anything like that. I don't mean to offend anyone just asking the question, I think that all the work people put into things like this are great. I work in high security areas and this is always on my mind. If I install something like Lookout Mobile Security could that mess with the phone being rooted. You all are great.
rugedraw said:
Hmmm....so on the phones I used Unrevoked3 on, I will not be able to push/flash a splash screen onto it? I still don't quite understand the difference, but thanks for your input. I obviously still have A LOT to learn. lol
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Yea, it'll tell you no permissions, ect. And if you used unrevoked, to flash a splash is slightly different than the standard method, and I can tell you if you want to know. The unrevoked, goes to a low level to unlock those permissions.
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I keep seeing where people are using something called the Toast method to root their phone. Is that where you do everything from the command line. I bet a lot of people don't even remember the command line haha. Is there really any difference between the two (Unrevoked and Toast). What about security. Does rooting with Unrevoked have any back doors or anything like that. I don't mean to offend anyone just asking the question, I think that all the work people put into things like this are great. I work in high security areas and this is always on my mind. If I install something like Lookout Mobile Security could that mess with the phone being rooted. You all are great.
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Well i started using the toast method, but it didn't work for me, since when I got my Evo 2.2 JUST came out, and people were scrambling blah blah, I digress. And what do you mean by backdoor? If you root using unrevoked you get all the same permissions/benefits of rooting as those with the toast method. And using a program like lookout security wouldn't affect your phone at all.
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I keep seeing where people are using something called the Toast method to root their phone. Is that where you do everything from the command line. I bet a lot of people don't even remember the command line haha. Is there really any difference between the two (Unrevoked and Toast). What about security. Does rooting with Unrevoked have any back doors or anything like that. I don't mean to offend anyone just asking the question, I think that all the work people put into things like this are great. I work in high security areas and this is always on my mind. If I install something like Lookout Mobile Security could that mess with the phone being rooted. You all are great.
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I used Toast's Part 1 & 2 method to root back in June mainly because it was the only thing available. It was not a noob friendly process, IMO, but it worked and my phone is still rooted to this day using his method. Also, it forced me to learn a few things that I wouldn't have had I had Unrevoked at my disposal.
However, I believe Toast's methods are outdated now as the current Evo software and hboots require different exploits to obtain root.
teh roxxorz said:
Yea, it'll tell you no permissions, ect. And if you used unrevoked, to flash a splash is slightly different than the standard method, and I can tell you if you want to know. The unrevoked, goes to a low level to unlock those permissions.
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Thanks, man.....I always see you on here helping people out and you are an asset to the XDA community. However, I Unrevoked the phones for some people that wanted wireless tether and screen shots......they could care less for the splash screens. Plus, I'm sure I can Google it and figure it out if it comes down to it. Mainly, I was asking for the knowledge as to "why" more than "how", and I think I follow now.
Your help is much appreciated, though.
I was rooting my Desire following the newbie guide found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
When doing the S-OFF with Alpharev, phone got stuck on step 3:
Flashing new bootblock: OK. Read Alpharez instructions and it would be safe to remove battery. Did so, then fastboot, recovery mode, back-up & here, it says it cannot find any files, even though I made a back-up when I rooted with unrevoked... Am I screwed?
Edit: it does say I'm on S-OFF now, but still can't get into stock ROM.
As you mentioned, you see that your are S-OFF, so you can go into alpharev HBOOT I guess?
That means, you might be able to go into recovery via HBOOT.
From there you might be able to flash a custom rom. (Backup stock rom just to be sure)
Appreciate the comment.
I can get into HBOOT and from there into clockworkmod recovery, but as I said, there appears do be no recovery file. You're saying I should do back-up in clockworkmod and proceed with flashing a custom ROM? I'd still need to partition my SD-card but I suppose this can be done with my card reader as well. I followed the guide completely so I'm clueless as to what went wrong.
Hmm, so if you made a backup in clockworkmod it should be in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup. There's no files there? Are you able to access other files on your sd as you were before?
Just got home. Popped the cd-card in adapter. There's no recovery file on it. Only a 'backup' map, but that might just be the standard android backup one...
Edit: I made a new nandroid back-up now, but I noticed I didn't get the typical alpharev - why so serious - screen. Is this something to worry about? Next step would be flashing new ROM.
jens1987 said:
Just got home. Popped the cd-card in adapter. There's no recovery file on it. Only a 'backup' map, but that might just be the standard android backup one...
Edit: I made a new nandroid back-up now, but I noticed I didn't get the typical alpharev - why so serious - screen. Is this something to worry about? Next step would be flashing new ROM.
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Ok so you've got a working recovery and backup - good!
Now check you still have s-off, look in bootloader, top line. You should normally have the joker screen so maybe you have to rerun alpharev?
It does still say AlphaRev, same options as in the guide, but not the - why so serious - screen (HTC one instead). I could rerun Alpharev, but it might get stuck again I definetely need the S-OFF before flashing new ROM?
Odd. Well, you don't need s-off to flash a rom, but you do need it if you want to change your partition table (gives you more internal memory in /data), and it allows you write access to any part of your phone while booted (e.g. you can permanently delete any app by removing its .apk file from /system). You definitely see "bravo pvt1 s-off" or something similar at the fist line of bootloader?
I do. You can check the images I added It's all there, but when going into recovery, I get clockworkmod and not alpharev and as said, not the splashscreen.
I think I found out why as well. Phone got stuck at 3rd step in Alpharev (flashing new bootblock: ok). After this, you would normally get the following:
Flashing splash1: ok
Flashing CWM-Alpharev recovery: ok
Procedure completed succesfully!
So I take it I'm S-OFF but without these last 2 features. Question is now whether I can proceed or need to do it again.
Edit: tried a restore, but I still can't get into stock rom :/
Edit2: proceeded with flashing leedroid 2.2 and it seems to have worked
Ok here it is, My son Never go s-off and we somehow got a ROM to install, Magnolia_2_0_Final, this one. Now he had revolutionary on it and unlocked. The fun part is, now he can't get into recovery, it just goes to a white HTC screen. We have tried to relock the phone and go back, and tried to do all the tricks of the forums, we are still stuck. I would like for some detailed instructions on how we can get this back if at all. If you could help that would great. Thanks.
It will help if we had more detail on what you exactly have done and how you are doing it.
First with the phone on go to your settings. Look under "POWER" setting and disable fastboot.
Then I recommend pulling battery and reinsert battery. Hold volume down and power button to access hboot. The go to recovery through that.
If you have root access the down load Rom manager from market place and make sure you have recovery installed. If not download and flash from Rom manager. From the Rom manager app you can reboot into recovery.
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Recovery
We we have got into recovery and all is ok. We have updated SU and Clockworks. We are running Magnolia 2.0 *Sense 3.5, Android 2.3.5, Tweaks*, S-ON. The weird part is I have no idea how we got the rom on without S-OFF, but here we are. Now we have tried to just install the PH32IMG file and have had no luck with that. No matter what we have tried, all we get to is a loop of the boot screen.
Wait, did you unlock via HTC Unlock first? Either way, unzip the ROM zip, pull the boot image from it and follow the instructions in guide 6 in my sig to flash it in fastboot.
HTC Unlock
Yes we have it unlocked though HTC Unlock and still S-ON with the ROM. Now we just need to either be able to go back and get S-OFF so we can move forward. The problem is if we try to flash the zip from CWM, it doesn't work.
So you're going to need to go to htcdev.com and relock your bootloader. Then, follow attn1's guide to downgrade to 2.3.3, then run revolutionary. You can find guides for all of this online.
Won't turn back on after I relock it
The phone stays at the HBOOT screen and wont reset so I can't use adb devices at all because it won't see that it is plugged in. what do I do?
Coming from 2.3.5
Oh and I'm also coming from 2.3.5 if that makes any difference
I think you're gonna have to go back to S-ON a diff way. There's a thread in the general section on how. Follow it and then revolutionary s-off.
All Ideas have FAILED so far
Ok here it is, My son Never go s-off and we somehow got a ROM to install, Magnolia_2_0_Final, this one. Now he had revolutionary on it and unlocked. The fun part is, now he can't get into recovery, it just goes to a white HTC screen. We have tried to relock the phone and go back, and tried to do all the tricks of the forums, we are still stuck. I would like for some detailed instructions on how we can get this back if at all.
This is what I said to begin with. Now I thank anyone who could help in this situation. We can get into recovery, we have a rom with 2.3.5 sence 3.5, s-on, CWM, and we have tried all of the ideas so far. We need to know is there a better solution getting this phone back to stock and s-off.