corrupt bootloader s-off - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi
i just downgraded my desire hd and then did a radio s-off but then i wanted to do a S-OFF.
i used the easyS-off but then it said bootloader corrupt do not reboot.
i already tried without "I Have Radio S-OFF" then it just says connection problem
i have charged only and debugging turned on
what now?
thnx

hmm what about Easy Radio Tools?

i used that for radio s-off

it worked now!! thnx to this guy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=999219
second post!!

I would be hesitamt to reboot though, haven't used the easytool as I personally prefer to know what steps are being carried out, but if it warns that the bootloader is corrupt I wouldn't reboot until I knew the situation is corrected.

Hello guys (I suppose most of the visitors are in fact guys ),
I downgraded my DHD to 1.32 this week and managed to get root-access and did a successful Radio S-OFF using the One click Radio S-OFF.
However; this morning I tried the One click ENG S-OFF but the first time I tried to run the tool I got an error stating "Connection error (SD)". Rebooted my phone and tried again.
This time I got the error "Bootloader corrupt, contact XDA".
After I almost crapped myself I started to search for a solution; someone on this forum stated to go to application settings - superuser - and clear data. Did it and then I got a bunch of applications which did a forced close.
Tried the One click tool again and got the same error (Bootloader corrupt).
In the meanwhile I got all this popups regarding android.process.acore needed to close which finally resulted in an unusable phone so I rebooted...
Thank god this went alright and my phone is up and running again but...
I think the last failure was probably caused by the One click app that doesn't have root access (didn' t get a popup though), but I'm a little afraid to try it again.
Does anyone know if it's save to try it again?

enz0123 said:
Does anyone know if it's save to try it again?
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Why not do it longhand? Concise instructions are available here, I realise you already have root but even if you follow the instructions from the begining they aren't gonna do any harm.

Thanks, that could be a solution however I found out that I didn't check the box "I have Radio S-OFF
Tried again with the checkbox checked but got the same error again.
The files that were copied to my SD-card at the first attempt are still there.
Is it safe to remove these files?
Maybe that solves it...

It is very important, that you agree the super user request while the tool does its job.
I had the same problems some weeks ago (bootloader corrupt), because during the flash my display timeout was reached and the super user request failed (black locked screen).
If the tool can not get root, it can not copy the bootloader. The message "bootloader is corrupt" is confusing, because nothing has happend.

KaseDesire said:
If the tool can not get root, it can not copy the bootloader. The message "bootloader is corrupt" is confusing, because nothing has happend.
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Which is one reason I favour doing it long hand at least then youd know it's failed to flash the bootloader

Hmm, strange.
When I boot into the bootmenu (vol. down + power) it states the I'm already ENG s-OFF and hav CID 111111...
Something must have gone right....
However I can't find the line anymore that states that I have Radio S-OFF, is this normal behaviour?

KaseDesire said:
It is very important, that you agree the super user request while the tool does its job.
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Exactly! The instructions don't mention it, but when you run the easy s-off exe, it goes through a few steps and then your phone will ask you to allow superuser access. So have your screen on and be ready, and THEN run the easy s-off utility. That's all it was for me. I hit "OK" on the error message, tried it again but this time watched my phone and allowed SU access, and it worked fine.

Hi,
I'm posting here because i had the same problem ( Bootloader corrupt etc ... ).
First I rooted my DHD, and made it Eng s-off and installed a rom a few month ago.
Today I wanted to install another rom, and flash the radio.
But I did not remenbered if I already had the radio s-off, so i installed the 1.32 stokified rom, used the easy radio tool ( v2.2 ) and when i wanted to use the easy s-off tool ( v05 ), the program gave me the error message concerning the bootloader corrupt and stuff. I tried it with "I have radio s-off" ticked, and when I try it with unticked, I have a connection error message.
I tried to delete the data from SU, but it didn't help, and then I noticied ( remenbered ) that SU did not asked me the authorizations when I used easy radio tool ans easy s-off.
Anyone have an idea how I can fix that ? Maybe unistall/reinstall SU ?

HTC Desire HD radio S-OFF steps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFphGbgqbQ&feature=player_embedded

Yes I did that after reinstalling the 1.32 rom, excepted the Visionary steps.
The root is permanent no ? I did it on my previous rom, so I don't have to root it again when I install another rom ?
Anyway, my DHD rebooted when I tried to secure the battery compartment, the bootloader wasn't corrupted, it's fine.
So I checked the bootload, I have ENG s-off and Cid 1111... this mean that my device is radio s-off too right ?

HornAdama said:
I have ENG s-off and Cid 1111... this mean that my device is radio s-off too right ?
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Yes, you can install custom roms and flash radios now.

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[Q] Really worried about my flash!

Hi guys... A colleague of mine just got a branded orange desire hd and asked me to debrand it for him.
I've never flashed a HTC phone.
I looked through the forums and did the following on an old laptop at work:
1. Made a gold card.
2. Downloaded stock 1.32 rom
3. Downloaded test 1.15 rom
4. Unzipped 1.32 then opened up 1.15 and copied 1.32 over the temp.
5. Went through the flash process and confirmed I wanted to upgrade from 1.40 orange to 1.32 stock.
6. The software rebooted the phone to the HTC screen.
7. The software says 'sending'.
8. This process was started at 6 pm... But was continuing at 8 pm!
The laptop is old (centrino processor)... So I have left it to run over night...
What are your thoughts? If it's done in the morning I'm okay... But what do I do if not?
Thanks
Crabby
crabby09 said:
Hi guys... A colleague of mine just got a branded orange desire hd and asked me to debrand it for him.
I've never flashed a HTC phone.
I looked through the forums and did the following on an old laptop at work:
1. Made a gold card.
2. Downloaded stock 1.32 rom
3. Downloaded test 1.15 rom
4. Unzipped 1.32 then opened up 1.15 and copied 1.32 over the temp.
5. Went through the flash process and confirmed I wanted to upgrade from 1.40 orange to 1.32 stock.
6. The software rebooted the phone to the HTC screen.
7. The software says 'sending'.
8. This process was started at 6 pm... But was continuing at 8 pm!
The laptop is old (centrino processor)... So I have left it to run over night...
What are your thoughts? If it's done in the morning I'm okay... But what do I do if not?
Thanks
Crabby
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has the DHD rebooted yet? or are you still booted into the os? if it hasent rebooted yet you could try flashing the ruu from fastboot. also check the software version on the phone, mine was orange branded and came with the 1.40.xxx version and was easly rooted using visionary with no downgrade needed
It's booted into the HTC screen?
Crabby
crabby09 said:
It's booted into the HTC screen?
Crabby
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i woulnt touch it then, if its flashing bootloader or radio you could perm brick it...... best bet is to just wait, but it only took me about 10 minutes to flash an ruu
This is the problem... I think it's just taking AGES because the laptop is just sooooo sloooooooooow! When I originally opened the RUU it took about 5 minutes to open.
At least you have confirmed it is flashing and what I have done would usually have been correct.
Hopefully it's finished by tomorrow. If it isn't, any other ideas?
crabby
crabby09 said:
This is the problem... I think it's just taking AGES because the laptop is just sooooo sloooooooooow! When I originally opened the RUU it took about 5 minutes to open.
At least you have confirmed it is flashing and what I have done would usually have been correct.
Hopefully it's finished by tomorrow. If it isn't, any other ideas?
crabby
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only other option is just to bite the bullet and disconnect it. as long as you can boot into the bootloader you can always flash the ruu from fastboot, obviously by disconnecting it you also run the risk of bricking it
Thanks. So, IF I need to disconnect it...
How do I get to the bootloader? And do I need some software for fastboot commands in windows?
crabby
crabby09 said:
Thanks. So, IF I need to disconnect it...
How do I get to the bootloader? And do I need some software for fastboot commands in windows?
crabby
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if you have htc sync installed you will already have the hboot/fastboot drivers. to flash an ruu from fatboot, turn the device off then hold volume down and press the power key (keep vol down held down) this will bring up the hboot screen, use the volume buttons to navigate the menu till fastboot is selected, press the power button to confirm, when in fastboot just connect to the pc and run the ruu
Fantastic! Thanks a lot!
crabby
Update! Got in today and found this error:
"Error [131]: Customer ID error
The ROM Update Utility cannot update your Android phone
Please get the correct Rom Update Utility and try again
Exit to quit"
The phone has booted back to the orange rom. What did I do wrong?
Thanks,
crabby
Try it the pd98img.zip method. It has much better success.
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Someone Swyped my idea.
crabby09 said:
Update! Got in today and found this error:
"Error [131]: Customer ID error
The ROM Update Utility cannot update your Android phone
Please get the correct Rom Update Utility and try again
Exit to quit"
The phone has booted back to the orange rom. What did I do wrong?
Thanks,
crabby
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it means you made the goldcard unsucessfully. liike i said check the current version number on the rom. if it says 1.4x.xxxxx. you dont need to downgrade, you can root using visionary then s-off
dr.m0x said:
Try it the pd98img.zip method. It has much better success.
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Thanks, I have found out that this is just the ROM renamed and installed via bootloader... Do I need a gold card for this?
AndroHero said:
it means you made the goldcard unsucessfully. liike i said check the current version number on the rom. if it says 1.4x.xxxxx. you dont need to downgrade, you can root using visionary then s-off
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I can't sell rooting to my colleague for some reason The pd98img.zip seems like a good way to go (it's the same method I used to use on my xperia x1), but will I need to fix the gold card to do this? And, if not... Does this completely wipe the phone?
Is rooting the least likely to brick? I might just ask to take it home and do it myself! (Though I haven't quite figured out the s-off method yet).
Thanks,
crabby
crabby09 said:
Thanks, I have found out that this is just the ROM renamed and installed via bootloader... Do I need a gold card for this?
I can't sell rooting to my colleague for some reason The pd98img.zip seems like a good way to go (it's the same method I used to use on my xperia x1), but will I need to fix the gold card to do this? And, if not... Does this completely wipe the phone?
Is rooting the least likely to brick? I might just ask to take it home and do it myself! (Though I haven't quite figured out the s-off method yet).
Thanks,
crabby
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you cant s-off without rooting i thought you were trying to downgrade the rom so you can root and s-off. what im tryna say is, if you have the right software version you dont need to downgrade to root
AndroHero said:
you cant s-off without rooting i thought you were trying to downgrade the rom so you can root and s-off. what im tryna say is, if you have the right software version you dont need to downgrade to root
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No... don't want root... He just wants to debrand his phone. Orange sticks a load of bloatware on their version like a fake market and their own map application etc as well as a load of game demos.
So, all I am trying to do is go from orange to stock firmware. So, just need to install the stock rom. Does the pd98img need a gold card? I'll try and do that again on Monday if necessary... Is there anyway to confirm the gold card is correct before trying to flash?
Thanks again... sorry to be such a bore with this... it just seems so much more complicated than I'm used to (Flashing Xperia X1 and Galaxy S).
crabby

Unable to flash cwm on wildfire

i have a htc wildfire.. had unlocked my bootloader and i have super user installed on my phone. i rooted my phone to install the cyanogenmod. i used super user tool for rooting after unlocking my bootloader from htc dev website. i almost read all the stuff over xda to install cyanogenmod.
for installing the cyanogenmod i have to install the CWM.. now i tried to install it by each and every method.. each and every method is posing problems. I have my wildfire with "hBOT 1.02.000" "S ON". and it says "locked oow"...as far i am aware of this locked oow it means that i am out of warranty... is locked means that now my wildfire bootloader is again locked and i won't be able to flash the CWM.... what shoud i do .please guide me for installing CWM . i am frustrated with all the threats and i am frustrated with reading the threats all over the xda and other places..now please guide me thoroughly how to install CWM.. please don't copy and show any installation threat please...please write full method here. and please make sure that you mention each and every step clearly because i almost read each and every threat how to flash the CWM. but unable. i am ready to answer any question. treat me as new from installation point view... please do reply as soon as possible..i will wait for reply and will try anything for installing the cyanogenmd..
with regards
Sachin
sachoosaini said:
i have a htc wildfire.. had unlocked my bootloader and i have super user installed on my phone. i rooted my phone to install the cyanogenmod. i used super user tool for rooting after unlocking my bootloader from htc dev website. i almost read all the stuff over xda to install cyanogenmod.
for installing the cyanogenmod i have to install the CWM.. now i tried to install it by each and every method.. each and every method is posing problems. I have my wildfire with "hBOT 1.02.000" "S ON". and it says "locked oow"...as far i am aware of this locked oow it means that i am out of warranty... is locked means that now my wildfire bootloader is again locked and i won't be able to flash the CWM.... what shoud i do .please guide me for installing CWM . i am frustrated with all the threats and i am frustrated with reading the threats all over the xda and other places..now please guide me thoroughly how to install CWM.. please don't copy and show any installation threat please...please write full method here. and please make sure that you mention each and every step clearly because i almost read each and every threat how to flash the CWM. but unable. i am ready to answer any question. treat me as new from installation point view... please do reply as soon as possible..i will wait for reply and will try anything for installing the cyanogenmd..
with regards
Sachin
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as far as I know the unlock method of htc dev doesn't give you s-off (which seems to be confirmed by yourself saying you're still s-on). S-on means "security on" what in other words means you won't be able to flash a custom recovery (if I'm not mistaken here).
You said that you have read every thread here about this - so you should know as it's mentioned all over this forum (that htc dev isn't the best method...). For how - and if - you still could get there I''m not too sure but you probably need to do an RUU, downgrade etc to do the suggested method (of the two corresponding threads here) instead of the htc dev thing.
But as I said: I_m not sure if you still can - probably someone has experience here?
eventcom said:
as far as I know the unlock method of htc dev doesn't give you s-off (which seems to be confirmed by yourself saying you're still s-on). S-on means "security on" what in other words means you won't be able to flash a custom recovery (if I'm not mistaken here).
You said that you have read every thread here about this - so you should know as it's mentioned all over this forum (that htc dev isn't the best method...). For how - and if - you still could get there I''m not too sure but you probably need to do an RUU, downgrade etc to do the suggested method (of the two corresponding threads here) instead of the htc dev thing.
But as I said: I_m not sure if you still can - probably someone has experience here?
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No, no. He will be able to flash a custom recovery if he unlocked it using HTCDev, he won't, however, be able to modify the internal storage while the phone is booted.
Lesicnik1 said:
No, no. He will be able to flash a custom recovery if he unlocked it using HTCDev, he won't, however, be able to modify the internal storage while the phone is booted.
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ah, yes, thx for clearifying - so you can't get control over the partitions or what does it mean?
The htc dev method gives a different output to revo or alpha, if it says s-on with unlocked somewhere then fastboot is the only method that will work for flashing a custom recovery and although some things like the revovery partition are unlocked for flashing, some important things like radio aren't hence the s still being on........
I presume if it says s-on and locked then yes you have probably gone wrong somewhere and locked it again.
Theres not many people on here that have used the htc dev unlock tool i don't think so support might be a bit thin as we don't know much about it, try running through the htc dev unlock method again to hopefully get it unlocked again and then flash cwm by the fastboot method.
If it says locked then i can't think of any other way, downgrading to hboot 1.01.0001in order to use revolutionary may work but i'm not sure if you can or not as i have personally never done it.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
i replied to the origional threat below..
nothing in this section wrote it wrongly
Now what to do ??? :
Scratch0805 said:
The htc dev method gives a different output to revo or alpha, if it says s-on with unlocked somewhere then fastboot is the only method that will work for flashing a custom recovery and although some things like the revovery partition are unlocked for flashing, some important things like radio aren't hence the s still being on........
I presume if it says s-on and locked then yes you have probably gone wrong somewhere and locked it again.
Theres not many people on here that have used the htc dev unlock tool i don't think so support might be a bit thin as we don't know much about it, try running through the htc dev unlock method again to hopefully get it unlocked again and then flash cwm by the fastboot method.
If it says locked then i can't think of any other way, downgrading to hboot 1.01.0001in order to use revolutionary may work but i'm not sure if you can or not as i have personally never done it.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
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sorrie i post it in the reply section i am not aware of the reply menu just saw it..
so now what should i do ?? does i need to go back to htc dev for again unlocking the bootloader ?? the phone just does't accept any method ..
what you guys suggest??
sachoosaini said:
sorrie i post it in the reply section i am not aware of the reply menu just saw it..
so now what should i do ?? does i need to go back to htc dev for again unlocking the bootloader ?? the phone just does't accept any method ..
what you guys suggest??
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Have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1457231
Looks like the problem is very similar to yours (and the thread starter solved it?).
i tried that too...
eventcom said:
Have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1457231
Looks like the problem is very similar to yours (and the thread starter solved it?).
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i already tried buzz downgrade a long ago.i used the method as it is told on the website..:good:
but don't know why it doesn't work properly i have no idea why this don't work either. i read number of threats regarding it and i tried to google
with the errors that came with buzz downgrade. something just goes wrong with it in the first step but it just doesn't get completed. the phone does not respond when i ran the buzz downgade utility even after installing the htc driver from the buzz downgrade itself (don't remember exactly that it is explained over the internet). i did clearly everything whatever is written in the threats about how to use the buzz downgrade but in vain i stopped it trying.
i still have the setup of buzz downgrade in my laptop.:silly:
but why it doesn't work i don't know..and you know what i read that threat too in the past.
may be it is the problem of the bootloader that it is locked..
sachoosaini said:
I have my wildfire with "hBOT 1.02.000" "S ON". and it says "locked oow"...as far i am aware of this locked oow it means that i am out of warranty... is locked means that now my wildfire bootloader is again locked and i won't be able to flash the CWM.... what shoud i do .please guide me for installing CWM
Sachin
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During your procedure,did you ever achieve the S-OFF ?
You need to downgrade from 1.02.0000 to 1.01.0001 to use Revolutionary.
Try this guide.
If you want revolutionary will automatically download the recovery and install it on your phone.
After gaining S-OFF if you can't get Unrevoked working in order to gain root.
Use this or try SuperOneClick.
Good luck:good:
Try the link in my Sig, it should help. First, I recommend running an RUU and relocking your bootloader using fastboot oem lock.
Then try the debranding and rooting guide in the Sig.
Sent from pixels to more pixels
i used buzz downgrade but of no use aware of that threat a long ago
optimusodd said:
During your procedure,did you ever achieve the S-OFF ?
You need to downgrade from 1.02.0000 to 1.01.0001 to use Revolutionary.
Try this guide.
If you want revolutionary will automatically download the recovery and install it on your phone.
After gaining S-OFF if you can't get Unrevoked working in order to gain root.
Use this or try SuperOneClick.
Good luck:good:
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this is the thing i already tried a long ago. when the wildfire was updated to 2.2 version of android ,it changed into "wildfire (buzz) 2.2.1, with HBOOT 1.01.0002"..now as the threats i read there in the past, i can't run the revolutionary or any other method. because the htc has applied some sort of lock on the new bootloader. revolutionary gave some error which i don't remember as per the threats. in the mean time nobody able to find the solution of this new 1.01.0002 bootloader unlocking. then i that time i heard of htc dev website and in that time i used that website to unlock my bootloader and alas it got unlocked and my bootloader has been changed to 1.02.000.. but now i again find that my bootloader is locked may be.. how i don;t know about that.. i tried to run that method of buzz downgrade number of times thoroughly again and again as if u read in the thread above it give some sort of error and does't do anything for me. so i asked what else i do then this , again do i need go to htc dev website to unlock bootloader ??
usaff22 said:
Try the link in my Sig, it should help. First, I recommend running an RUU and relocking your bootloader using fastboot oem lock.
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Which RUU you want him to run ?If i am not wrong,he can only upgrade as he is S-ON,right ?
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What is the information on your hboot screen? tell us your hboot info first,we can help you in a better way.
sachoosaini said:
it changed into "wildfire (buzz) 2.2.1, with HBOOT 1.01.0002"..now as the threats i read there in the past, i can't run the revolutionary or any other method. because the htc has applied some sort of lock on the new bootloader.
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Let me tell you,I successfully rooted my phone after OTA 2.2 update using Revolutionary.
revolutionary gave some error which i don't remember as per the threats.
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I told you,you need to downgrade from 1.02.0000 to 1.01.0001 to use Revolutionary.
Did you make any Gold-Card thing ?
so i asked what else i do then this , again do i need go to htc dev website to unlock bootloader ??
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I never tried htcdev method so i have no idea about that.You should probably try their method once again,if that doesn't work,use the Gold card tool to downgrade the HBOOT using this guide.
Code:
Step 1: run step1.bat from the package. This will downgrade your MISC partition to allow for the RUU downgrade.
At the end, GoldCardTool will start up, to allow you to create a goldcard which you will need before starting Step 2
Step 2: run step2.bat from the package. This will downgrade your ROM version to HTC WWE Froyo for Wildfire (unbranded).
If you get a Customer ID error while doing this, your goldcard is not working!
Create a new goldcard and re-run step2
or follow usaff22's guide.
HTH
going to try buzz downgrade on windows xp 32 bit today.
optimusodd said:
Which RUU you want him to run ?If i am not wrong,he can only upgrade as he is S-ON,right ?
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What is the information on your hboot screen? tell us your hboot info first,we can help you in a better way.
Let me tell you,I successfully rooted my phone after OTA 2.2 update using Revolutionary.
I told you,you need to downgrade from 1.02.0000 to 1.01.0001 to use Revolutionary.
Did you make any Gold-Card thing ?
I never tried htcdev method so i have no idea about that.You should probably try their method once again,if that doesn't work,use the Gold card tool to downgrade the HBOOT using this guide.
Code:
Step 1: run step1.bat from the package. This will downgrade your MISC partition to allow for the RUU downgrade.
At the end, GoldCardTool will start up, to allow you to create a goldcard which you will need before starting Step 2
Step 2: run step2.bat from the package. This will downgrade your ROM version to HTC WWE Froyo for Wildfire (unbranded).
If you get a Customer ID error while doing this, your goldcard is not working!
Create a new goldcard and re-run step2
or follow usaff22's guide.
HTH
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i will let you know today i am going to use windows xp 32 bit to run the downgrade tool..hope this will work out for me. i will reply you with the error if any come meantime...
lost battle with an error
sachoosaini said:
i will let you know today i am going to use windows xp 32 bit to run the downgrade tool..hope this will work out for me. i will reply you with the error if any come meantime...
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i left with a error buzz downgrade didn't worked gold card was successfully created and in the end it gave a error..
"FAILED <remote: 42 custom id check fail " ...
tried to search about it on the internet but unable to find good solution...
now is it the end of my battle to get cynogen ??
stopped with an error
optimusodd said:
Which RUU you want him to run ?If i am not wrong,he can only upgrade as he is S-ON,right ?
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What is the information on your hboot screen? tell us your hboot info first,we can help you in a better way.
Let me tell you,I successfully rooted my phone after OTA 2.2 update using Revolutionary.
I told you,you need to downgrade from 1.02.0000 to 1.01.0001 to use Revolutionary.
Did you make any Gold-Card thing ?
I never tried htcdev method so i have no idea about that.You should probably try their method once again,if that doesn't work,use the Gold card tool to downgrade the HBOOT using this guide.
Code:
Step 1: run step1.bat from the package. This will downgrade your MISC partition to allow for the RUU downgrade.
At the end, GoldCardTool will start up, to allow you to create a goldcard which you will need before starting Step 2
Step 2: run step2.bat from the package. This will downgrade your ROM version to HTC WWE Froyo for Wildfire (unbranded).
If you get a Customer ID error while doing this, your goldcard is not working!
Create a new goldcard and re-run step2
or follow usaff22's guide.
HTH
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i left with a error buzz downgrade didn't worked gold card was successfully created and in the end it gave a error..
"FAILED <remote: 42 custom id check fail " ...
tried to search about it on the internet but unable to find good solution...
now is it the end of my battle to get cynogen ??
sachoosaini said:
i left with a error buzz downgrade didn't worked gold card was successfully created and in the end it gave a error..
"FAILED <remote: 42 custom id check fail "
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You didn’t answer me,What is the information on your HBOOT screen?
Power off the phone and ensure the phone is completely off. Then hold POWER + VOL-DOWN buttons together until the white HBOOT screen appears. Tell us your HBOOT info.
You are getting Customer ID error,It’s a bad Goldcard.You will have to create a new Goldcard.
>Connect it to your computer using an SD Adapter and format the card to FAT32 file system once again.
>Redownload and reextract the package.
>Follow this guide to create the Goldcard.It’s a bit more detailed.
Before doing anything download CCleaner and TFC and run them.TFC will ask you to reboot.Reboot the PC.
Now make the Goldcard.Good luck.
optimusodd said:
You didn’t answer me,What is the information on your HBOOT screen?
Power off the phone and ensure the phone is completely off. Then hold POWER + VOL-DOWN buttons together until the white HBOOT screen appears. Tell us your HBOOT info
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not really clear to me also - if I got him right he initially has been on 1.01.0002 (because of the Android update). Because there hasn't been a possibility by revolutionary yet at that time and for that bootloader he unlocked it at the htcdev site what made it 1.02.000.
But I'm a bit confused, too, so a detailed information of the fastboot screen would really help (or a pic).
optimusodd said:
You didn’t answer me,What is the information on your HBOOT screen?
Power off the phone and ensure the phone is completely off. Then hold POWER + VOL-DOWN buttons together until the white HBOOT screen appears. Tell us your HBOOT info.
You are getting Customer ID error,It’s a bad Goldcard.You will have to create a new Goldcard.
>Connect it to your computer using an SD Adapter and format the card to FAT32 file system once again.
>Redownload and reextract the package.
>Follow this guide to create the Goldcard.It’s a bit more detailed.
Before doing anything download CCleaner and TFC and run them.TFC will ask you to reboot.Reboot the PC.
Now make the Goldcard.Good luck.
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i will try that gold card method again in the meanwhile i am telling you the
"bootloader menu information"
*** LOCKED (OOW) ***
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON
]HBOOT-- 1.02.0000
TOUCH PANEL-SYN3KY_02
RADIO-3.35.20.10
Dec 13 2011, 12:08:54
thats all the information about the hbot menu..
sachoosaini said:
*** LOCKED (OOW) ***
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON
]HBOOT-- 1.02.0000
TOUCH PANEL-SYN3KY_02
RADIO-3.35.20.10
Dec 13 2011, 12:08:54
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As it says,your Bootloader is still LOCKED.
After using HTC dev unlock tool your HBOOT 1.01.0002 got changed to 1.02.000 while Bootloader is still locked.
i.e you probably missed some steps.

[Q] Problems with installing blackout ics ROM Desire HD

So I decided to root my android desire hd phone and avail the benefits of blackout ics rom on my phone.
This is how I approached.
I unlocked the bootloader from HTC Dev.
I have the adb with me, adb devices, adb restart bootloader are working absolutely fine and cell phone was detectable.
I downloaded the aahk and blackout rom from xda forums.
But I am not able to use the aahk properly. It says in instruction to do a fastboot flash boot boot.img from command prompt with the source being the place where aahk is placed on the PC. But it still doesn't work, and probably this is the root cause of the issues I am facing.
I tried downloading the CWM to boot into recovery, but that also gave me an error stating cannot find the adbwinapi.dll file.
So after that, I did a factory reset of my cellphone and truly I got my first success and I was able to get into the bootloader and recovery.
I can reach to the bootloader screen (white screen+3 andro dummies), but when I select the fastboot option It says cannot find image(which image, is it referring to boot.img). I deleted the cache on my cell phone, but again things are pending from here on.
The description on this screen says S-ON and some other things. Does that mean the security is still on?
I have the rom loaded on the sd card with renamed to update.zip, but when I select update option from the recovery it again says cannot find image, rebooting!(what image this is referring to).
And after all this sequence I am down with a cellphone now degraded to froyo from ginger bread and back to stone age!
Please advise.
TH3_M0Nk said:
So I decided to root my android desire hd phone and avail the benefits of blackout ics rom on my phone.
This is how I approached.
I unlocked the bootloader from HTC Dev.
I have the adb with me, adb devices, adb restart bootloader are working absolutely fine and cell phone was detectable.
I downloaded the aahk and blackout rom from xda forums.
But I am not able to use the aahk properly. It says in instruction to do a fastboot flash boot boot.img from command prompt with the source being the place where aahk is placed on the PC. But it still doesn't work, and probably this is the root cause of the issues I am facing.
I tried downloading the CWM to boot into recovery, but that also gave me an error stating cannot find the adbwinapi.dll file.
So after that, I did a factory reset of my cellphone and truly I got my first success and I was able to get into the bootloader and recovery.
I can reach to the bootloader screen (white screen+3 andro dummies), but when I select the fastboot option It says cannot find image(which image, is it referring to boot.img). I deleted the cache on my cell phone, but again things are pending from here on.
The description on this screen says S-ON and some other things. Does that mean the security is still on?
I have the rom loaded on the sd card with renamed to update.zip, but when I select update option from the recovery it again says cannot find image, rebooting!(what image this is referring to).
And after all this sequence I am down with a cellphone now degraded to froyo from ginger bread and back to stone age!
Please advise.
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You have not done anything fine...anything at all. My advice is that you'd better start reading hard buddy or you will end up with a 300 bucks paperweight.
Use the guide in my signature to start.
Tip 1:If you really downgrade to froyo and you were running gingerbread, you might have messed the bootloader..can you boot in hboot in normal times or takes ages?
Tip 2:The Hack Kit can not be run with an unlocked bootloader...that is what the manual says. The manual is there just to avoid this.
If your bootloader is still unlocked, then you have to install CWM recovery, put the rom in the sdcard (no rename is necessary) and then flash the boot.img from where that file is located (I usually put in the PC desktop) and not from the Hack Kit folder.
Then, from CWM flash the rom normally and you will be up and running.
Unlocking the bootloader will not give you S-OFF....
glevitan said:
You have not done anything fine...anything at all. My advice is that you'd better start reading hard buddy or you will end up with a 300 bucks paperweight.
Use the guide in my signature to start.
Tip 1:If you really downgrade to froyo and you were running gingerbread, you might have messed the bootloader..can you boot in hboot in normal times or takes ages?
Tip 2:The Hack Kit can not be run with an unlocked bootloader...that is what the manual says. The manual is there just to avoid this.
If your bootloader is still unlocked, then you have to install CWM recovery, put the rom in the sdcard (no rename is necessary) and then flash the boot.img from where that file is located (I usually put in the PC desktop) and not from the Hack Kit folder.
Then, from CWM flash the rom normally and you will be up and running.
Unlocking the bootloader will not give you S-OFF....
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I had this tutorial open side by side in your signature while I was doing it. (the noob one)
I can go into Hboot normal times.
I am writing it down here from the main website from where I downloaded the aahk. And it says
Unlock the bootloader using the HTC DEV bootloader unlock process.
Download att-ace-30-isboot.zip and unzip it (don’t forget to check MD5)
fastboot flash boot boot.img
relock bootloader
But just now you told me that it should not be run on an unlocked bootloader! I am a little confused.
TH3_M0Nk said:
I had this tutorial open side by side in your signature while I was doing it. (the noob one)
I can go into Hboot normal times.
I am writing it down here from the main website from where I downloaded the aahk. And it says
Unlock the bootloader using the HTC DEV bootloader unlock process.
Download att-ace-30-isboot.zip and unzip it (don’t forget to check MD5)
fastboot flash boot boot.img
relock bootloader
But just now you told me that it should not be run on an unlocked bootloader! I am a little confused.
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Yeah, but also says this: "...No Temproot for Inspire Build 3.20.502.52..." But you have a Desire HD, haven't you? And your build is not that one, is it?
glevitan said:
Yeah, but also says this: "...No Temproot for Inspire Build 3.20.502.52..." But you have a Desire HD, haven't you? And your build is not that one, is it?
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Yeah.
I think i found the answers I was looking for and since I used the bugger HTC dev unlocker (which I shouldn't have used), I have to come down a step and start over again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31211732&postcount=396
This made me realize deep down search is more important. Thanks
TH3_M0Nk said:
Yeah.
I think i found the answers I was looking for and since I used the bugger HTC dev unlocker (which I shouldn't have used), I have to come down a step and start over again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31211732&postcount=396
This made me realize deep down search is more important. Thanks
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No problem. Get a working phone and then you can try to run the Hack Kit...but it has to be stock or otherwise will not work. :good:
glevitan said:
No problem. Get a working phone and then you can try to run the Hack Kit...but it has to be stock or otherwise will not work. :good:
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I am not sure if you are on right now, but i am giving a try to the steps mentioned by that gentlemen above in the link.
the phone is now stuck at signature verification. I reasearched for it but could not find a viable solution or an exploit that can overcome it(though everyone seems to be suggesting to install CWM recovery)
Not taking any chances to convert my phone into a brick! Whats the best way.
TH3_M0Nk said:
I am not sure if you are on right now, but i am giving a try to the steps mentioned by that gentlemen above in the link.
the phone is now stuck at signature verification. I reasearched for it but could not find a viable solution or an exploit that can overcome it(though everyone seems to be suggesting to install CWM recovery)
Not taking any chances to convert my phone into a brick! Whats the best way.
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ok, Have you managed to unlock the bootloader? if you are already unlocked, do you mind if I have a look at it over teamviewer?
glevitan said:
ok, Have you managed to unlock the bootloader? if you are already unlocked, do you mind if I have a look at it over teamviewer?
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I am following the steps sequentially as mentioned in that link by sashank. The bootloader is partially unlocked due to the HTCDEV process.
Couple of other things that I noticed. The android version is still at 2.3.5 however the device was shipped with Froyo. My mistake to have said that it is downgraded to froyo when I did the factory reset.
The facebook for HTC Sense thing is jacked up big time, I cannot find that in peoples app.
The device has (believe me) gained speed. pretty strange.
Once I reach home 3 hours from now, i'll update this thread and we can connect through Teamviewer so that you can have a look.hope thats cool!
Thanks
TH3_M0Nk said:
I am following the steps sequentially as mentioned in that link by sashank. The bootloader is partially unlocked due to the HTCDEV process.
Couple of other things that I noticed. The android version is still at 2.3.5 however the device was shipped with Froyo. My mistake to have said that it is downgraded to froyo when I did the factory reset.
The facebook for HTC Sense thing is jacked up big time, I cannot find that in peoples app.
The device has (believe me) gained speed. pretty strange.
Once I reach home 3 hours from now, i'll update this thread and we can connect through Teamviewer so that you can have a look.hope thats cool!
Thanks
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Ok, just let me know when you are online and be arrange it.
glevitan said:
Ok, just let me know when you are online and be arrange it.
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Click to collapse
Yes I am online now. Let me know how to proceed.
TH3_M0Nk said:
Yes I am online now. Let me know how to proceed.
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download the teamviewer: http://www.teamviewer.com
Get the ID and PASS and send them over a Private Message, NOT HERE

[Q] Trying to unlock with HTCdev - error 191 despite 3.12.405.1 - what to do now ?

Hello.
For 2 days now, I have been trying to unlock a DHD,with not much luck so far. (AAHK being disabled just when I needed it.)
I am now trying to use the official HTCDev bootloader unlocker, but it doesn't seem to work either.
So far, my rom is still stock. (The phone tells me it is :
sense 3.0,android 2.3.5, ver 3.12.405.1 ,
HBOOT 2.00.0027
Radio 26.14.04.28_M )
The phone was never branded or somlocked.
It SHOULD be supported by HTCDev. However,when I run the RUU update, It asks me if I want to go from 3.12.405.1 to 3.13.000.0
I say yes.
The phone reboot to Fastboot, and then I get an error 191, saying that my rom is not supported and I should wait for an update.
Since it supposed to be supported already, there will be no update of course.
Earlier, I had tried to manually downgrade following this guide :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424023
I had gone to the end of the guide, having the message "your card is now gold",but couldn't seen to use it to downgrade. (Is there a specific way to use a goldcard ? I just got to bootloader and it seems to load something ... but in the end the hboot version doesn't change.)
I kept the goldcard as it was, and used another micros SD.
I did a factory reset before trying HTC dev unlocker.
Now I am a bit lost. I have tried to find what to do by reading posts, faqs, and generally searching here ot with google.
But I seem to go from outdated to incomplete guides, and / or lack the basics to understand what I read.
Does anyone know what my next step should be ? What could prevent HTCdev unlocker from working ?
kaceps said:
Hello.
For 2 days now, I have been trying to unlock a DHD,with not much luck so far. (AAHK being disabled just when I needed it.)
I am now trying to use the official HTCDev bootloader unlocker, but it doesn't seem to work either.
So far, my rom is still stock. (The phone tells me it is :
sense 3.0,android 2.3.5, ver 3.12.405.1 ,
HBOOT 2.00.0027
Radio 26.14.04.28_M )
The phone was never branded or somlocked.
It SHOULD be supported by HTCDev. However,when I run the RUU update, It asks me if I want to go from 3.12.405.1 to 3.13.000.0
I say yes.
The phone reboot to Fastboot, and then I get an error 191, saying that my rom is not supported and I should wait for an update.
Since it supposed to be supported already, there will be no update of course.
Earlier, I had tried to manually downgrade following this guide :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424023
I had gone to the end of the guide, having the message "your card is now gold",but couldn't seen to use it to downgrade. (Is there a specific way to use a goldcard ? I just got to bootloader and it seems to load something ... but in the end the hboot version doesn't change.)
I kept the goldcard as it was, and used another micros SD.
I did a factory reset before trying HTC dev unlocker.
Now I am a bit lost. I have tried to find what to do by reading posts, faqs, and generally searching here ot with google.
But I seem to go from outdated to incomplete guides, and / or lack the basics to understand what I read.
Does anyone know what my next step should be ? What could prevent HTCdev unlocker from working ?
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You need to update your hboot for HTCDEV tool to work. I don't know why but the links in the site seem to have been removed thou the link is still alive.
Try to use this tool (that will guide you through the process) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2133336 or use this tool (that will unlock the bootloader, flash CWM recovery and root) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169515
glevitan said:
You need to update your hboot for HTCDEV tool to work. I don't know why but the links in the site seem to have been removed thou the link is still alive.
Try to use this tool (that will guide you through the process) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2133336 or use this tool (that will unlock the bootloader, flash CWM recovery and root) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169515
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I tried both those utility, but they merely download and launch the same RUU update. It will detect a 1.00.000.00 image version, try to update to 3.13.something,and then tell me it can't due to unsuported rom.
I think the problem might be that I switched my version 1.00.000 manually when I was trying to downgrade. I'LL try reversing that, but if anyone has another idea, please ...
Edit :
Nope, still stuck.
I changed back the misc version to 2.00.0027, but the HTC dev ruu update still tells me that my rom is not supported.
Can't update hboot, can't get token, can't unlock
kaceps said:
Hello.
For 2 days now, I have been trying to unlock a DHD,with not much luck so far. (AAHK being disabled just when I needed it.)
I am now trying to use the official HTCDev bootloader unlocker, but it doesn't seem to work either.
So far, my rom is still stock. (The phone tells me it is :
sense 3.0,android 2.3.5, ver 3.12.405.1 ,
HBOOT 2.00.0027
Radio 26.14.04.28_M )
The phone was never branded or somlocked.
It SHOULD be supported by HTCDev. However,when I run the RUU update, It asks me if I want to go from 3.12.405.1 to 3.13.000.0
I say yes.
The phone reboot to Fastboot, and then I get an error 191, saying that my rom is not supported and I should wait for an update.
Since it supposed to be supported already, there will be no update of course.
Earlier, I had tried to manually downgrade following this guide :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424023
I had gone to the end of the guide, having the message "your card is now gold",but couldn't seen to use it to downgrade. (Is there a specific way to use a goldcard ? I just got to bootloader and it seems to load something ... but in the end the hboot version doesn't change.)
I kept the goldcard as it was, and used another micros SD.
I did a factory reset before trying HTC dev unlocker.
Now I am a bit lost. I have tried to find what to do by reading posts, faqs, and generally searching here ot with google.
But I seem to go from outdated to incomplete guides, and / or lack the basics to understand what I read.
Does anyone know what my next step should be ? What could prevent HTCdev unlocker from working ?
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I have same issue
fahad4210 said:
I have same issue
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I found what was wrong for me !
It came from my first try at manually downgrading. Except the misc version is not the HBOOt version, it's the rom version. Following the guide, I had set it to 1.00.000.0
I retraced the same step, except I set it to 3.12.405.1 ( the version of the rom ).
And it worked !
kaceps said:
i found what was wrong for me !
It came from my first try at manually downgrading. Except the misc version is not the hboot version, it's the rom version. Following the guide, i had set it to 1.00.000.0
i retraced the same step, except i set it to 3.12.405.1 ( the version of the rom ).
And it worked !
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so what you did? Hwo did u manually downgrade it?
alvarado iondevi
fahad4210 said:
so what you did? Hwo did u manually downgrade it?
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No.
After setting the rom version back to 3.12.405.1, I used the HTC unlocker to unlock my Hboot.
The automatic script ( easyUnlock and EasyAceUnlock ) didn't seem to work for me (Error while trying to get root.)
So I just installed Clockwork mod recovery. I don't really need to be root anyway. I just want some JellyBean taste.
But now I seem to be having a new problem. I tried to install a rom ( Wiping everything I can from CWM before ) but my phone won't boot. It is stuck to the green HTC logo.
I will be looking through new post from this forum to try to find a solution, while downloading other roms.
I wonder if some (or all) roms require you to be root to work.
kaceps said:
No.
After setting the rom version back to 3.12.405.1, I used the HTC unlocker to unlock my Hboot.
The automatic script ( easyUnlock and EasyAceUnlock ) didn't seem to work for me (Error while trying to get root.)
So I just installed Clockwork mod recovery. I don't really need to be root anyway. I just want some JellyBean taste.
But now I seem to be having a new problem. I tried to install a rom ( Wiping everything I can from CWM before ) but my phone won't boot. It is stuck to the green HTC logo.
I will be looking through new post from this forum to try to find a solution, while downloading other roms.
I wonder if some (or all) roms require you to be root to work.
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You haven't flashed the boot.img in fastboot...that is a must when using an unlocked bootloader.
glevitan said:
You haven't flashed the boot.img in fastboot...that is a must when using an unlocked bootloader.
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Indeed. Now starting the slow process of finding the right rom.
I will regret not being able to flash a radio ( since I'm not S-Off ) but at least I be able to try new roms.
Thanks !
hi,
for me works great with the HTC Easy Unlock Bootloader Tool from glevitan:good:
then i following this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31211732&postcount=396
for noobs like me
works great
now i can flash all rooms they have an boot.img inside easily.
:victory::victory::victory:

S-OFF failed, now invalid BB and FW

Got my shiny new M8 today.
Was following Vomers excellent guide to get it ready for my custom ROM of choice however have hit some snags.
Wanted to get some advice before I get myself further into trouble...
Was able to unlock the bootloader OK via HTCDev and get root, TWRP installed per normal.
S-OFF with firewater failed, which is fine for some devices I know, so I thought I'd use Sunshine. This also failed with Viper ROM installed, so I installed MaximusHD, Sunshine also fails (incompatible ROM).
My CID is HTC__044.
HBOOT 3.16
My radio version now shows INVALID_VER_INFO
and OS is blank.
However the phone functions and I can use the mobile network OK...
Any tips as to how I can get to S-OFF so that I can install the firmware package again?
I'm pretty sure it had 1.54 before I started (I recorded it elsewhere)
Thanks
You need to restore your backup and it should then work and once S-OFF you can flash the FW package which will fill the blanks in again on the HBOOT
EddyOS said:
You need to restore your backup and it should then work and once S-OFF you can flash the FW package which will fill the blanks in again on the HBOOT
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Of course - my 'backup'
The one I didn't make because I recklessly just jumped into rooting/SOFF given it was a new phone with none of my data on it....
I'll try the stockish package from mike1986 and see if I can get Sunshine to run. Fingers crossed
kamold said:
Of course - my 'backup'
The one I didn't make because I recklessly just jumped into rooting/SOFF given it was a new phone with none of my data on it....
I'll try the stockish package from mike1986 and see if I can get Sunshine to run. Fingers crossed
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Mike's package is the EU unbranded phone (I think your phone is an Asian one) but it should do the job in terms of gaining S-OFF
EddyOS said:
Mike's package is the EU unbranded phone (I think your phone is an Asian one) but it should do the job in terms of gaining S-OFF
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Yeah I know its limited CIDs and mine isn't included, I just want to be able to get Sunshine to run and then I should be back on track to super CID and S-OFF to get fw loaded properly.
It installed ok (from here in case anyone else managed to be as silly as me http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735235).
yay! Sunshine runs now. I am somewhat relieved...
Phone is now S-OFF and correctly reporting the radio and open DSP versions
delete
I made s-off after some attemps with firewater
When m8 will reboot, wait to see usb icon on screen device, than begins with shell commands
in superSU also "allow root when boot"
just so in the end it worked for me
S-Off Failed, now invalid Radio & OpenDSP, OS- (Blank)
Interesting Similar Posts_
I'm definitely not an advanced developer, but slowly learning my way around.
I have successfully unlocked and rooted my HTC One M8, and flashed only the Teamwin (TWRP) custom recovery v2.7.1.0 I have not flashed a custom rom and really do not intend to anytime soon --likely until I learn more. However, I wanted to go ahead and S-OFF. I attempted to use "Firewater", but it failed --"Welp . . . etc." During the attempts --after entering: "adb reboot" the installing htc driver process kept failing showing sometimes "MTP and debugging disconnected" and sometimes each just "failed". However, the phone shows both connected, and adb commands continue to work just fine. However, S-OFF continued to fail. Then I noticed that both HBoot lines Radio & OpenDSP showed "Invalid_Ver_INFO, and the OS- was blank.
Like one of posts; I do not have a back-up of my phone (nandroid) immediately after rooting, but as I said, I have not flashed a custom rom. Otherwise, my personal data is backed-up. Should I have flashed the custom recovery twice similarly as mentioned about flashing the stock rom instance described?
So far, I have only seen mention of "Sunshine" on XDA, and have been continuing to research first before I do anything else.
For now, my objective is to resolve the invalid notices in HBoot, and attain S-OFF. I don't really care about the "tampered" and "unlocked" flags for now --other than the hindrance of block of OTA Updates.
My pursuit of S-OFF has been pushed as I was trying to overcome the Ext SD-Card "write" block, when I noticed that Titanium uninstalls and other "write" file related actions would not remain permanent. The "app SD fixes" have not worked and the "manual fix" of permissions "Platform.xlm" file global ". . . media_ rw/" does not stay either. So subsequently, I began thinking/anticipating that the lack of S-OFF may be related to this problem. Perhaps I'm way-wrong on this point, but none-the-less I'm now pushing the resolution of my S-OFF issue also.
Guidance from anyone would certainly be appreciated. As addressed in the S-OFF post involving the mention of "Sunshine" I certainly don't mind paying the cost to gain S-OFF if it will work. I respect and appreciate the work of developers and often subsequently purchase Pro app versions simply to add donation to free versions etc. Sorry for the long post, and will be much shorter in the future!
Thanks for any help!

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