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When I get in the car and turn on bluetooth, a script starts to run in conjuction with my car stereo for handsfree and audio etc.
I would like to add a command to the script that switches on GPS straight away and gets a fix in the background so that if I get lost or stuck in traffic I can run TomTom and the fix will have already been established thus enabling me to navigate to where I need to be more efficiently?
Is there such a way of doing this?
the simplest idea I have is to run a 3rd party app such as gpsgate when your script runs.
debully,
I did think about using a 3rd party app but wondered if the trinity is capable of getting a fix just by enabling GPS and not running any other app?
The problem is that using A2DP is quite CPU greedy. Running another app will just add to it. Incidently, I've read posts where people are quoting percentages of CPU used by certain programs, how is this done?
interested as well
Let me know if you get a way to do this... I would be interested as well.
;-)
-Daniel
If you'd like to have a GPS fix all the time (even when you push the power button for 'stand by') you will have to modify the radio rom..
But for in-windows usage you could install a program with a virtual COM port that redirects the GPS data.. (so, when your batch file is ran this program will open and connect to the GPS port.. it wil create another COM port and when tomtom connects it will have a fix instantly)
I use gpsgate, not only does it give me a fix all the time when I set it to run on softreset, it can send your position to googlemaps so people can track you if you want and other nifty stuff.
Floriz said:
If you'd like to have a GPS fix all the time (even when you push the power button for 'stand by') you will have to modify the radio rom..
But for in-windows usage you could install a program with a virtual COM port that redirects the GPS data.. (so, when your batch file is ran this program will open and connect to the GPS port.. it wil create another COM port and when tomtom connects it will have a fix instantly)
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I downloaded a little app called ODGPS (900KB cab file and free) It took a while playing around with the settings to get a fix but once the fix was there I opened TomTom and it knew where I was almost instantly.
I stumbled across a website yesterday with links to other sites of free gps software. http://www.maps-gps-info.com/fgpfw.html (where I found ODGPS)
My plan is to test a number of programs from here to establish a) how much memory they use and b) how quick they get a fix.
Once I have found a small enough app with a fairly quick fix I shall implement it into my script. Now if someone could just tell me how I monitor the CPU usuage of each app?
mcq3000
How memory hungry is gpsgate?
neomagik said:
I downloaded a little app called ODGPS (900KB cab file and free) It took a while playing around with the settings to get a fix but once the fix was there I opened TomTom and it knew where I was almost instantly.
I stumbled across a website yesterday with links to other sites of free gps software. http://www.maps-gps-info.com/fgpfw.html (where I found ODGPS)
My plan is to test a number of programs from here to establish a) how much memory they use and b) how quick they get a fix.
Once I have found a small enough app with a fairly quick fix I shall implement it into my script. Now if someone could just tell me how I monitor the CPU usuage of each app?
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you can use "BatteryStatus", very small today-plugin that shows you the energiedrain... more cpu = more energiedrain
I'm getting closer to having this working:-
ODGPS is not ideal because it seems to freeze the phone after a while. It also makes a funny tapping noise every 2 or 3 minutes and for some reason and I can't disable it.
I'm now experimenting with NoniGPSPlot, a very small program that runs easily in the background. You can save a track of your journey too and view it on google earth.
Once it's established a fix, TomTom will fix almost instantly.
I've integrated it into my script so that it opens and minimizes as soon as I switch to 'car' profile. My phone then detects my stereo and connects to it for handsfree profile, then for wireless stereo.
What would be cool is if I can get it to display a message telling me that a fix has been established and likewise when the fix is lost. The trouble is I can't find what registry change takes place once it has a fix.
neomagik said:
I'm getting closer to having this working:-
ODGPS is not ideal because it seems to freeze the phone after a while. It also makes a funny tapping noise every 2 or 3 minutes and for some reason and I can't disable it.
I'm now experimenting with NoniGPSPlot, a very small program that runs easily in the background. You can save a track of your journey too and view it on google earth.
Once it's established a fix, TomTom will fix almost instantly.
I've integrated it into my script so that it opens and minimizes as soon as I switch to 'car' profile. My phone then detects my stereo and connects to it for handsfree profile, then for wireless stereo.
What would be cool is if I can get it to display a message telling me that a fix has been established and likewise when the fix is lost. The trouble is I can't find what registry change takes place once it has a fix.
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Wow this sounds great !!! I have just bought an A2DP capable car radio and I would love to being able to do exactly this. Can you share your script when its finished??
Kind regards
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I've read posts where people are quoting percentages of CPU used by certain programs, how is this done?
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Task Manager
availible here: http://www.buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_phorum&Itemid=125&phorum_query=read,27,15027
@ rdkay>
Which stereo do you have? The script I have written is specifically for the Pioneer DEH P75BT
I've just used ssnap to create 2 snapshots of my registry, the 1st with a gps fix, and the 2nd without. When comparing the files using ExamDiff there is no obvious change that takes place.
Does anybody know of a GPS program that creates or changes registry entries once a fix is established?
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@ rdkay>
Which stereo do you have? The script I have written is specifically for the Pioneer DEH P75BT
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slightly off topic - apologies -
how do you find the DEHP75BT at registering and automatically recognising your phone?
I have a DEHP55BT (think it was the first BT radio available for under £200) and had loads of trouble with registration (had to use 'connect
wait') and unless I manually switch on BT on phone (mUn's WM6 SE) or manually tell the pioneer to connect nothing happens.
Also, when callers call me I cannot hear their voices through the speakers, but it's ok when I call them - do you have this problem?
neomagik said:
I've just used ssnap to create 2 snapshots of my registry, the 1st with a gps fix, and the 2nd without. When comparing the files using ExamDiff there is no obvious change that takes place.
Does anybody know of a GPS program that creates or changes registry entries once a fix is established?
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GPSGate changes the colour of its icon that resides in the system tray (red -no gps data, yellow - gps data but no fix, Green - Fixed). Not sure if this is controlled by a registry setting but may be worth a look. GPSGate also lets you use more than one GPS app at once and allows you to delegate COM ports for output.
@ debully>
There is a very simple fix to enable the Pioneer to recognise and connect to your phone. You see the Pioneer is searching for a phone or a Smartphone, the Trinity identifies itself as a PPC and so the Pioneer ignores it.
The Class of Device or CoD must be changed so that the Trinity identifies itself as either a phone or Smartphone.
If you change the Dword Data value in.... HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SYS\COD"
to 5374476 (decimal) and set bluetooth to discoverable in your Trin, you should find that it connects automatically.
It took me 8 months to find this out.
PS. I don't have the problem with not hearing the callers.
@neomagic
wow - thanks dude. Your a star!
To understand what you are dealing with in getting a "fix" you need to understand how the system works. When started for the first time in 2 hours (or whatever it's been programmed for) the gps does a cold start and needs to download almanac data from the sat's in order to determine their trajectories which is needed to calculate a fix. Once that data has been pulled, it's valid for a certain amount of time (about 2 hours if I'm remembering correctly). So, although no registry keys are going to change, the easy way to deal with this is to keep your own timestamp, and make sure to ping the gps with a fix request every 2 hours or so in order to keep it ready for a warm/quick start...
@ Shadowmite>
Thanks for the info, I've read similar information about cold/warm starts. A couple of questions though...
1) I can deal with the timestamp but how do I "ping" the gps with a fix request?
2) If I do ping a request every 2 hours and I'm indoors and can't get a fix, will it go back to needing a cold start?
Ok forgive me because I am totally new to this whole thing. I have a G3 T-mobile MDA. I really want to use it as a simple GPS. Is there any way to unlock the internal GPS chip and let GPS software out there use that to get the readings? or do you HAVE to buy a Bluetooth GPS. also another thought can you plug in like one of these Chepo Delorme or Microsoft USB GPS devices to the USB port? doubt it but just thought I would ask.
GPS Chip on a Wizard? I don't know about you, but i never heard of Wizard having one.
So you'd need a bluettoth GPS instead. As for USB ones, you won't be able to connect them to the wizard, since its USB port lacks host functionality - you can connect the wizard to a host device, but you can't connect any slave device (like GPS, pendrive, printer, etc) to the wizard.
Hmm I don't know
I thought that the phone had a basic GPS chip in it. you know like that they can track you with like on TV or really I thought that it was the same technology Sprint and Verizon customers can use for directions etc but T-mobile didn't want you to use?
What you talk about is not GPS. Verizon and Sprint probably calculate your phone using data about strength of signal your phone receives from nearby GSM transmitters and positions of these transmitters.
You can get such positioning data in google maps (windows mobile version, not java midlet). But keep in ming that positioning error when using this method can be as large as 1-2km (especially in suburban/country terrain). The more cell transmitters are in your area, the more accurate the tracking.
There probably is some other software that can do this, but nothing crosses my mind right now.
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Here's some info on the subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_localization
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Anyone know anything about this stereo -
http://www.parrot.com/usa/products/bluetooth-hands-free-car-kits/parrot-asteroid
Even, where it can be bought, how much it is? What OS it runs for that matter?
well it says that it has Android embedded, so the OS is Android
it looks pretty interesting too...
as for when/where/how much, the site says "Coming soon in 2011", so I'm guessing that it is yet-to-be-offered and they may not have decided their MSRP yet.
William
First, I don't know if I can post links yet. Second, I'm too lazy to dig it up. They had an article on Androidpolice during CES that included a speaker from Parrot showcasing it. I think he said a Q2 release. I'll be getting this the second its released, regardless of price.
anyone have any more details on this? Q2 is all they're saying...
I want one now!!
For the European markets, they say May. Hopefully the beginning of May
Hope they didn't get a developer team from Motorola, then it's going to takes at least another year
next week
i was infomrmed dynamicsounds expected to be stocked next week
wonder if its worth getting
i am currently considering getting it as i need a car kit any way
apperantly they are avalible as of today at 289 euro in the netherlands
I have one
I currently have an Asteroid sitting on my desk here
When I find some time tonight I'll take it for a testdrive and let you guys know!
Excellent. Please let us know.
What apps are available at the moment?
Im hoping for Spotify and proper navigation once the sdk is released...
Yay, someone that has the Asteroid!
Please, let us now!
And, tell us how the music player works.
I want to hook a big memory card, or if there's room a 40GB laptop harddisk to the unit.
Also, streaming from Bluetooth from your phone. Btw, what kind of phone do you have?
(And hmm.. Gorinchem.. That's not that far from my weekly commute.. )
Asteroid
Been driving around with the Asteroid for a while now and it's a pretty neat radio but not perfect.
Building it into the car was a breeze. With the radio came all the needed cables, like a 3,5mm jack, iPod cable, USB cable for usb-sticks, GPS dongle and microphone for the carkit. All cables were pretty long so you should have no problem routing them to whatever place you want them in your car.
Soundquality is pretty good and there are plenty of connections for subwoofers and external amplifiers so it should suffice even for cars with loads of fat speakers.
Connecting my phone, an HTC Desire with CyanogenMod 7.1 (nightly build), was easy through bluetooth and streaming music over bluetooth went without problems. Answering phonecalls and navigating the menu is pretty easy.
A few problems I ran into though. To use internet on the radio (for google maps, internet radio, coyote speed camera alerts) you can either use a 3g USB dongle (which costs you at least 10€ a month where I live) or tether your phone through bluetooth (maybe usb works, haven't tried yet). To do this, your phone needs to support the bluetooth DUN profile which android lacks. Nokia phones should be no problem though. I've tried using 3rd party apps like PDANet but to no avail.
Furthermore I found that the device lacks some tweaking capabilities. For example, when i'm navigating my contacts from my phone, the device tries to "read" the contacts for me using text-to-speech. I've found no way to turn this off. Furthermore I could find no option in the settings to turn off the traffic announcements from radio. The device now switches to radio when i'm listening to music from my SD card to bring me the traffic information (Which can be skipped by pressing the "back" button). Finally, the device came with a Dutch language setting and i've found no way to turn this to English, which is the language I prefer.
Please note, I have only used this radio for a short while and I might've missed some things! I think this is a very nice radio though and since it is the first model and only out for a week or so now I think there will be some updates from Parrot's side, perhaps expanding the capabilities of this device. The only major drawback is the lack of internet connectivity if you have an Android phone. This is not Parrot's fault though but rather Google's. I heard though that Honeycomb supports Bluetooth PAN and I think the Asteroid supports this for Internet tethering so i'm keeping my hopes up for Android Icecream to bring this feature to my phone.
Pro:
- Lots sources for music: Radio, USB stick, SD Card, iPod, 3.5mm Jack line-in
- Android with Google Maps
- Speed camera Alerts
- Large screen (for a single DIN radio unit)
- Lots of cables came with the Radio (With a Pioneer your need to buy overpriced iPod cables separately)
- Its a handsfree carkit, and Parrot knows how to make those by now
- Lots of tweaking possible with the sound
Con:
- Internet does not work with Android phones (yet)
- Lacks certain tweaking possibilities in the settings menu
Feel free to ask any questions
Thank you for the excellent review.
Those drawbacks are major issues,
but Im hoping Parrot will come up with some patches
soon.
The Asteroid is not on sale here yet, and it might take a while.
But I am going to Holland later this month..
Anyone know a place close to Schiphol that sell Parrot equipment?
I also have the Parrot Asteroid for a few days now. But I can't get thetering trough Bluetooth working on my HTC Desire Z (Android 2.2).
I used an app called "PdaNet" or something, with that I can enalbe "Dun - Dia-up Network". And I can make a connection with the parrort trough Settings > Network > Bluetooth. But as soon as I try to use an application that uses internet, it won't work and says I need a internet connection.
Anyone know how I can use DUN or PAN, because an Asteroid doesn't have WiFi and can't tether trough USB ??
Thanx!
RobertR21,
Android does currently not support PAN or DUN so using that is probably not possible without any 3rd party software. I tried PDAnet aswell but it did not work.
You might try connecting your phone to the 3G dongle port on your asteroid through USB, as android supports USB tethering, I have not tried this myself. I can verify though that DUN works, I tried it with my Nokia and it worked flawlessly.
I hear there's rumours on the Internets though that Android icecream is going to support PAN though, so maybe then we can use our android phones. Maybe before that time Parrot will find a solution.
Does anyone know which 3g USB dongles work with the Asteroid?
In my case: I have a Trekstor/Huawei MiFi which can also be used as a "Stick" - Will this work via USB? My Asteroid Device ships in (wish me luck) tomorrow. Pimpin' my Ride is planned at Saturday ;-)
ThX
Hi, I've got the this Parrot Asteriod also.
And For you guys I can use bluetooth internet though my old HTC Hero. I can do it also with other phones. but there is a trick for it.
First root your phone, this is absolutely nessasary.
Then download from the market 'Wireless Tether for root users'(it is a free app).
This one has internet tethering through bluetooth.
Go to menu and select bluetooth instead of wifi.
then go to access-control and eneble it.
Make the bluetooth visible in the tether program.
On the asteroid go to setting and then network and then bluetooth is will find your phone(again) and press the nice parrot butten and it connects.
then on your phone again give it authorization to use the tether and you have your internet.
One problem is that you have to connect manually every time. (your carkit does it automaticly) but not the internet. But at least you can then enjoy your live radio and google maps if you want to.
You only have to have the tether active and connect only through the radio other steps are not needed anymore after.
Internet through usb with your doesn't work, to bad.
One issue that I've encountered with this radio the front panel will become pretty hot after playing an half hour on a high volume. does anyone else have this problem also?
Hi,
I am also considering getting an Asteroid. I have several questions:
- Is there also offline navigation available?
- Can any app from the normal market be installed? Or is there a special Parrot market?
- What Android version is installed?
- Anyway to root it? (What ever functionality this would add?)
Greetings
karlv
Dysphoria said:
Furthermore I found that the device lacks some tweaking capabilities. For example, when i'm navigating my contacts from my phone, the device tries to "read" the contacts for me using text-to-speech. I've found no way to turn this off. Furthermore I could find no option in the settings to turn off the traffic announcements from radio. The device now switches to radio when i'm listening to music from my SD card to bring me the traffic information (Which can be skipped by pressing the "back" button). Finally, the device came with a Dutch language setting and i've found no way to turn this to English, which is the language I prefer.
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For disablieng the traffic information go to tuner, select a radio station then press the menu button there you can edit if you want traffic information on or of.
text to speech, try the menu button in the app contacts you can change it there. I like that so I didn't look at it yet.
The most options regarding a app can be found in the app it self. try to look for tweaking option there.
karlv said:
Hi,
I am also considering getting an Asteroid. I have several questions:
- Is there also offline navigation available? NO, not yet at least
- Can any app from the normal market be installed? Or is there a special Parrot market? Special Parrot market, apps that are avaible can be found on the parrot site then put on usb stick and then install.
- What Android version is installed? Android 1.5
- Anyway to root it? (What ever functionality this would add?) No, maybe also later.
Greetings
karlv
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Everyone can correct me if I'm wrong
anyone already tried getting in touch with the radios file system?
I assume those usb ports only are usb hosts?
there's a new firmware out:
http://download.parrot.com/Parrot_Asteroid_soft_update/asteroid_update_fr_FR.plf
It's nearly 90 MB, so it looks as a complete android software build.
can we get this extracted? modders, come on
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there exist some plftools for other Parrot Devices. Maybe they can be used to extract useful stuff out of the Asteroid firmware files...
Links:
http://embedded-software.blogspot.c...howComment=1311293537224#c8852365956008835373
http://sites.google.com/site/repurposelinux/df3120
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part of the firmware update file:
parrotparts=nand0:256K(Pbootloader),16M(Pmain_boot),4M(Pfactory),241408K(Psystem) console=ttyPA0,115200 loglevel=8 update
maybe it is possible to divide the plf file into parts and mount them somehow? (http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=478.0)
EDIT3:
Serial output of AR Drone Update, wich also uses plf update files and is based on linux:
http://kapejod.org/download/ardrone_install.txt
Hello,
i have an old phone (with CM 13) and, as many others, i want to transform it into a headunit, and as many other i've been very disappointed to see that it's impossible to just use an app or flash a zip, and that it require deep modification in Android, that no one made a tutorial (and even, i'm not a dev or else and i don't know to code, so...).
But, i was wondering, is there a dongle, or an Arduino setup, or anything else that we could plug to the phone, plus an app, that could connect to my actual phone by BT, receive music, calls, sms, etc ? And the app on the old phone could do the rest ?
So, my question, is this possible and i'm the first to think about it (unlikely), or is this impossible for some reason i don't know ?
Or, and that would be great !, a dongle like that exist, but i have not seen it, and in that case do you have a link or a reference ?
I hope i've been clear (despite my english)
Thank you
Anyone ever heard about something like that ?
(@Admins I think this is the correct forum to post this in, but please feel free to move it if I've chosen the wrong forum. I'm still figuring out exactly what category my device is in)
TL;DR - Trying to figure out if it's possible to get an external USB Bluetooth dongle working on my radio instead of the built-in one, so I can connect to all types of bluetooth devices, not just streaming audio
Hi all,
I'm searching for a possible solution that would allow me to connect my Android radio (AUTOPUMPKIN AA0495B, using a PX5, MCU CSN2_06252019_163051) to a Dual XGPS160 device. I installed this stereo in my track car for the purpose of running Harry's Lap Timer; currently the app is running perfectly, with a wired OBDLink EX in use for OBDII data and also connecting to a GoPro via WiFi to control the camera. The last piece of the puzzle is I want to get an XGPS160 connected for better GPS data capture (10Hz vs 1Hz of the radio's GPS). After hours spent trying to get it to pair and connect to the device, I emailed AUTOPUMPKIN support and they confirmed that this radio cannot connect to such devices, as the Bluetooth module in the radio is essentially a glorified bluetooth headset and can only connect for streaming audio (I haven't been able to determine the model number of the bluetooth module it uses). My hope is there is a USB Bluetooth dongle that I could plug into the radio and then have the radio use that instead, which would then allow it to connect to the XGPS160 (and any other type of bluetooth device).
When I go into the Car Settings on the radio, it has the following options available for bluetooth:
IVT i140
IVT i145
FC6000TN
GOC_BC5
KD6
KD6 is what is selected from the factory. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is this list is basically the different bluetooth hardware models the radio has driver support for? If I'm correct on that, then I'm also guessing if I were to plug in a bluetooth dongle using one of the other models and change this setting, the radio would use that instead of the built-in bluetooth? I don't use the bluetooth audio streaming or phone tethering feature, so I don't care if I lose those features if it allows me to connect the radio to the XGPS160. As long as the WiFi keeps working I'm ok with it.
Sorry if I'm asking any stupid questions; I'm a programmer by background, but even after hours of reading this forum my knowledge about the hardware in these Android radio units is still very limited. That being said, I'm not opposed to modifying config files to get this working. I have Android Developer mode enabled and I can connect to the radio via ADB; I spent some time looking at the file structure and various config files so modifying those if needed shouldn't be a problem for me.
thanks!
There was another (lengthy) thread on the subject of bluetooth dongles around here somewhere. You will have to do a search for it. If I remember correctly you had to open your head unit and physically disconnect your original bt module... and even with that there was limited success in getting the thing to actually work....and of those who claimed they did get it to work also said they couldn't get anything more to connect to the dongle than what the original BT could handle
It's too bad too. I have a sound processor on my system which uses an app through BT on my phone to make adjustments and I was HOPING it would connect to the head unit. It won't
BTW... your obdlink ex usb will also work with Torque (Pro). I use it with torque and it's blazing fast and reliable.... a lot more than a BT connection!
deja100 said:
(@Admins I think this is the correct forum to post this in, but please feel free to move it if I've chosen the wrong forum. I'm still figuring out exactly what category my device is in)
TL;DR - Trying to figure out if it's possible to get an external USB Bluetooth dongle working on my radio instead of the built-in one, so I can connect to all types of bluetooth devices, not just streaming audio
Hi all,
I'm searching for a possible solution that would allow me to connect my Android radio (AUTOPUMPKIN AA0495B, using a PX5, MCU CSN2_06252019_163051) to a Dual XGPS160 device. I installed this stereo in my track car for the purpose of running Harry's Lap Timer; currently the app is running perfectly, with a wired OBDLink EX in use for OBDII data and also connecting to a GoPro via WiFi to control the camera. The last piece of the puzzle is I want to get an XGPS160 connected for better GPS data capture (10Hz vs 1Hz of the radio's GPS). After hours spent trying to get it to pair and connect to the device, I emailed AUTOPUMPKIN support and they confirmed that this radio cannot connect to such devices, as the Bluetooth module in the radio is essentially a glorified bluetooth headset and can only connect for streaming audio (I haven't been able to determine the model number of the bluetooth module it uses). My hope is there is a USB Bluetooth dongle that I could plug into the radio and then have the radio use that instead, which would then allow it to connect to the XGPS160 (and any other type of bluetooth device).
When I go into the Car Settings on the radio, it has the following options available for bluetooth:
IVT i140
IVT i145
FC6000TN
GOC_BC5
KD6
KD6 is what is selected from the factory. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is this list is basically the different bluetooth hardware models the radio has driver support for? If I'm correct on that, then I'm also guessing if I were to plug in a bluetooth dongle using one of the other models and change this setting, the radio would use that instead of the built-in bluetooth? I don't use the bluetooth audio streaming or phone tethering feature, so I don't care if I lose those features if it allows me to connect the radio to the XGPS160. As long as the WiFi keeps working I'm ok with it.
Sorry if I'm asking any stupid questions; I'm a programmer by background, but even after hours of reading this forum my knowledge about the hardware in these Android radio units is still very limited. That being said, I'm not opposed to modifying config files to get this working. I have Android Developer mode enabled and I can connect to the radio via ADB; I spent some time looking at the file structure and various config files so modifying those if needed shouldn't be a problem for me.
thanks!
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No; it must be a specific BT type MD725 realtek device. No, you cant connect all manner of devices due to the hacked BT implementation.
Bob_Sanders said:
There was another (lengthy) thread on the subject of bluetooth dongles around here somewhere. You will have to do a search for it. If I remember correctly you had to open your head unit and physically disconnect your original bt module... and even with that there was limited success in getting the thing to actually work....and of those who claimed they did get it to work also said they couldn't get anything more to connect to the dongle than what the original BT could handle
It's too bad too. I have a sound processor on my system which uses an app through BT on my phone to make adjustments and I was HOPING it would connect to the head unit. It won't
BTW... your obdlink ex usb will also work with Torque (Pro). I use it with torque and it's blazing fast and reliable.... a lot more than a BT connection!
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Yeh I found that threat in my searches, but no one in there quite mentioned this specific scenario (Selecting one of the other options in the Bluetooth settings) so I wasn't sure. And I'm definitely not opening up the unit and cutting on the hardware; hacking config files I can do all day long, but I have no skills when it comes to soldering so I'd probably just destroy the radio in the process of trying to cut that module :laugh:
Yeh I've run the OBDLink EX with Torque as well for data logging temps on track and it worked flawlessly for that as well. BT is definitely more convenient, especially since most are running apps from their phones, but if you have a dedicated radio like these then it's a no-brainer to permanently wire up a USB device.
marchnz said:
No; it must be a specific BT type MD725 realtek device. No, you cant connect all manner of devices due to the hacked BT implementation.
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When you say "hacked BT implementation" I'm assuming you mean they don't use the standard Bluetooth stack built into the Android OS? That would make sense, as when I try to do anything with bluetooth from the standard Bluetooth settings menu, it doesn't do anything, doesn't see any devices available for pairing, or anything else. You can only see other devices and pair to them from the PUMPKIN Bluetooth app; the funny thing is it will go through the first steps and show the XGPS160 as being paired, but none of the apps that use the GPS actually see it as a paired device (my OBD dongle shows up, but not the GPS).
I don't understand why they didn't just use standard bluetooth that's already part of the OS, rather than use some hacky custom solution
Quick update since the last post. Spent some time tonight on google looking up the information I could find on those other bluetooth modules in the list of options on my stereo. Based on technical manuals and FCC documents, it appears the FC6000TN and BC5 are audio-only bluetooth chips that only support A2DP profile (basically the same as what I have now with the KD6); Now the IVT i140 and IVT i145 on the other hand appear to be full fledged bluetooth chips, and do support the SPP (Serial Port Protocol) that is needed by the XGPS160 (and many other bluetooth profiles) so in theory that would work. Unfortunately after searching for both of those, all I can find are ones in bare module form (i145 and i140) that would have to be soldered onto the board (assuming the pins are even compatible) and there are no USB versions of them that I could just plug in to my radio's free USB-A slot. The only thing even remotely close that comes up in Google in USB form is this adapter and I'm pretty sure it's not based on the i140 or i145.
Given that my soldering skills are non-existent, it seems I'm pretty much out of luck on getting this to work. Disappointing for sure, as I would gladly have paid more $ for the unit to come with a fully functional bluetooth module instead of this hacked audio only junk they put in it :/
deja100 said:
Quick update since the last post. Spent some time tonight on google looking up the information I could find on those other bluetooth modules in the list of options on my stereo. Based on technical manuals and FCC documents, it appears the FC6000TN and BC5 are audio-only bluetooth chips that only support A2DP profile (basically the same as what I have now with the KD6); Now the IVT i140 and IVT i145 on the other hand appear to be full fledged bluetooth chips, and do support the SPP (Serial Port Protocol) that is needed by the XGPS160 (and many other bluetooth profiles) so in theory that would work. Unfortunately after searching for both of those, all I can find are ones in bare module form (i145 and i140) that would have to be soldered onto the board (assuming the pins are even compatible) and there are no USB versions of them that I could just plug in to my radio's free USB-A slot. The only thing even remotely close that comes up in Google in USB form is this adapter and I'm pretty sure it's not based on the i140 or i145.
Given that my soldering skills are non-existent, it seems I'm pretty much out of luck on getting this to work. Disappointing for sure, as I would gladly have paid more $ for the unit to come with a fully functional bluetooth module instead of this hacked audio only junk they put in it :/
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Unfortunately, It wouldn't matter which BT you use from the supported BT types, BT implementation is non-standard to do stuff like act as a BT hands-free.
marchnz said:
Unfortunately, It wouldn't matter which BT you use from the supported BT types, BT implementation is non-standard to do stuff like act as a BT hands-free.
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Yeh, that's extremely disappointing Does anyone know of any Android based radio units that have full working bluetooth? I don't mind buying a new unit for the car if I know it will work with everything.
The old intel sofia units (mtcd as well) had the bluetooth & wifi ibtegrated into the soc...and they had a standard (or at least more profiles) implemented
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ikerg said:
The old intel sofia units (mtcd as well) had the bluetooth & wifi ibtegrated into the soc...and they had a standard (or at least more profiles) implemented
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Bummer they don't make those units anymore :/ Then again, they may not have been powerful enough to run my track timer apps anyway.