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Hello.
The Motorola Defy, when used with PowerAMP, seems to sound reasonably good.
But... when you adjust PowerAMP's preamp and the EQ and get the volume to sound a lot higher than what you get with the stock player/media effects ... some songs sound distorted.
On the other hand... I've read about the Samsung Galaxy S and it's apps "Voodoo Sound" and "Galaxy Tuner".
Those apps seem to manipulate the hardware directly (instead of software preamp & EQ like PowerAMP seems to do). Apparently the Samsung has a dedicated Wolfson audio chip, so I suppose that's why they can do all of that.
So... the question is... can something of this be applied to a Motorola Defy? Even if it doesn't have any dedicated sound chip, could the hardware be manipulated in some way to achive something like what the Samsung apps do ?
I'm also remembering some mp3 players that could deliver more volume, but due to local european laws were forced to lower their output power... and then some people hacked the firmware and "erased" this limitation.
What I would like is, basically, more power, more volume thru the earphones. Could this be possible for the Motorola Defy ?
A side-note..
I am always curious when someone wants to have their media player louder:
Why?
Have you messed up your hearing somehow? Don't you use earplugs or headphones? Do you listen to music in very noisy environments... while vacuum cleaning perhaps?
That said, perhaps you could be a bit more specific as to what the applications for the Galaxy do exactly if you want to mimic their functionality on the Defy.
I think he's refering to hacks that adjust the frequency respon or/and adjust the software directly tied to the hardware for a more hi-fi experience. Not just meaning getting higher volume or changing eq-settings.
Just googled real quick and come cross this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735918
Sent from my MOTO Defy
I don't know of any mods/hacks but PowerAMP is able to play flac files.
Cyanogenmod includes a dsp app.
It has equalizer etc. pp.
You can also use it on other roms with root, afaik... (had it on hd2 sense rom) just google.
naenee said:
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Why?
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That said, perhaps you could be a bit more specific as to what the applications for the Galaxy do exactly if you want to mimic their functionality on the Defy.
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I wan't my music played louder because... I wan't it played louder.
OK, I'll explain it to satisfy your curiosity
I usually play music when I'm working in loud or busy environments and I need to "focus" (intended pun, as I'm a photographer). I can't use canal earphones, so I sometimes need to use higher volume levels... wich the Defy doesn't seem to have, or at least not without distortion/clipping.
Regarding being more specific... don't you find specific enough the names of the 2 apps I've already given ?
Voodoo Sound
Galaxy Tuner
They work together and can adjust the Galaxy's headphone amplifier analog gain, thus increasing the volume noticiably without distortion, or so it seems.
These programs adjust some parameters in the Galaxy's audio chip, so the quality of the resulting sound is apparently better than waht you get from software EQ.
You can find a more complete explanation about all the possibilities here:
galaxyroot.com/guide-how-to-set-voodoo-sound-and-galaxy-tuner
(can't post links yet)
I can live with Defy's audio quality, but I'd want to prevent the distortion and the clipping I get when using PowerAMP to increase the volume.
K r i ll e said:
I think he's refering to hacks that adjust the frequency respon or/and adjust the software directly tied to the hardware for a more hi-fi experience. Not just meaning getting higher volume or changing eq-settings.
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Exactly that. I want to know If it is possible to do that (or something close to that) with Defy's audio hardware.
domenukk said:
Cyanogenmod includes a dsp app.
It has equalizer etc. pp.
You can also use it on other roms with root, afaik... (had it on hd2 sense rom) just google.
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The DSP app makes software adjustments. It can't prevent clipping or distortion... it can do a better job than PowerAMP, at best, though I really doubt that.
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In short: I wan't to know if it's possible to adjust parameters of the Defy's audio hardware to improve the sound. What "normal" audio apps do is simply adjust the audio data via software manipulation, but they're bounded by what the hardware allows.
I want to tweak the hardware (or, better said, the software that the hardware runs internally)
So... the "developers" part of this forum is just a wish... nobody knows a word about this ?
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So... the "developers" part of this forum is just a wish... nobody knows a word about this ?
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The "developers" are busy "developing" software and are not here simply for your beckon call when you want something made.
Erra said:
The "developers" are busy "developing" software and are not here simply for your beckon call when you want something made.
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So what's the point in having a forum for people so busy that can't visit the forum or answer any questions ?
We'll... at least you weren't doing anything important. Thanks for answering... though I expected a more informative answer... but, alas, you're not a busy software developer developing software.
Hello devs. Is anyone aware of any third-party or alternative IR blaster apps for the Xperia ZL? I've been looking for an alternative to the stock remote app, and tested a few third-party solutions like TouchSquid, to no success.
I would like to be able to use the IR blaster with a custom ROM like CyanogenMod, but it's clear that simply installing the stock app won't work because it requires the Sony framework. CyanogenMod is reportedly working on IR blaster support, but I've no idea when that'll be available.
Any ideas?
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Hello devs. Is anyone aware of any third-party or alternative IR blaster apps for the Xperia ZL? I've been looking for an alternative to the stock remote app, and tested a few third-party solutions like TouchSquid, to no success.
I would like to be able to use the IR blaster with a custom ROM like CyanogenMod, but it's clear that simply installing the stock app won't work because it requires the Sony framework. CyanogenMod is reportedly working on IR blaster support, but I've no idea when that'll be available.
Any ideas?
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+1 on this.
I've searched as well and haven't had any luck.
My main gripe is being unable to make a shortcut to the macro's in the sony IR app.
Touchsquid home works well..the only drawback is that it although it automatically adds the remotes configured by the user in the stock remote control app,manually adding the remote by searching the device,brand,different remote control types,etc,etc....can be very challenging ......also the UI of the app takes time to get used to and know how to use it.Also sometimes if u face the no response from your device issue while controlling it from touchsquid,I found a workaround for this,
I.e. -->firstly open the stock remote control app & add the remote according to your device,
-->minimize it (don't close)
-->now (most important step) while opening touchsquid app, cover the IR blaster with your hand
-->then switch on your device with any remote of your device(although it can be done with the stock app,but this is if u face the "no response" thingy )
-->now u can operate ur device
I know that the above steps sound very silly,but I could only make it work ,that way
Also if you want other apps,try dijit app from playstore it's quite a good app with a nice,clean UI
If you feel that I've helped you in anyway, please hit the thank button
Sent from my Xperia ZL (C6502) using Tapatalk 4.2.5
Thanks for the response. However, the Touchsquid app cannot work in custom roms because of what you stated -- it requires the stock IR remote app to configure, which does not work in custom roms.
Dijit does not work with the ZL, and requires an external bluetooth IR device, which completely defeats the purpose.
ive seen some ir remote apps in htc one apps section ...give those a try and see .
I am looking for a Video player app that supports effect/filter/post processing mainly Sharpening. possibly other options like contrast, saturation/hue etc.
VLC for desktop and many other PC player apps support this, but I have yet to see one for mobile.
I've used MX Player Pro for long time, but i has no way to tweak the actual video it plays...any suggestions?
EDIT: MPV
That does it all if u setup a .conf.
Now use it for Android and PC.
https://mpv.io/manual/stable/
Sharpening while playing is a Hardware based ability
Hi there,
Unfortunately, for now, Sharpening while playing, is a mere Hardware ability (in contrast to HUE, SATURATION, BRIGHTNESS, CONTRAST etc which are software depended).
Sharpening works on its best with PCs hardware architecture, but on mobile platform you should go for proper hardware, not all SOCs support SHARPENING. for instance some MEDIATEK SOCs support it and the ability is called MIRAVISION by MediaTek. i had your problem, and finally bought a midrange tablet with MEDIATEK MTK MT8783 chipset which supports Sharpening and other MiraVision abilities very well, satisfied me with crystal clear and crisp video playing on FullHD IPS screen, far better than any TV.
Amir1975 said:
Hi there,
Unfortunately, for now, Sharpening while playing, is a mere Hardware ability (in contrast to HUE, SATURATION, BRIGHTNESS, CONTRAST etc which are software depended).
Sharpening works on its best with PCs hardware architecture, but on mobile platform you should go for proper hardware, not all SOCs support SHARPENING. for instance some MEDIATEK SOCs support it and the ability is called MIRAVISION by MediaTek. i had your problem, and finally bought a midrange tablet with MEDIATEK MTK MT8783 chipset which supports Sharpening and other MiraVision abilities very well, satisfied me with crystal clear and crisp video playing on FullHD IPS screen, far better than any TV.
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WOW....really...reply to 2yr old thread.....mods will probably ban u for that....they very picky here.....
And your very wrong......
Discovered over a year ago...no thanks to anyone here on XDA.....that MPV player app has everything u can set via its .conf file. Sharpness, brightness,contrast, scalers, etc. I now use it on Android and PC. Even find it much better then MPC-HC i was using on PC.
tnx for your reply, i tried it but never works correctly bro, at least i couldnt make it to work like miravision. if you have a config file please upload it here and share.
Amir1975 said:
tnx for your reply, i tried it but never works correctly bro, at least i couldnt make it to work like miravision. if you have a config file please upload it here and share.
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What u mean "never works correctly". What device and source file are you playing?
By default, it should work just fine to play pretty much anything. Works fine on my Pixel 3
If u fuss with the settings, and your devices does not support those settings, or the hardware is not strong enough, then things will have issues.
MPV has extensive documentation on how to use each syntax command and what scalers, and hw accel/decode modes support what etc.
The .conf would be unique to each device/platfourm etc.
The only things i have in my mpv.conf on my phone is:
sharpen=1.18
saturation=10
I also use ewa_lanczossharp for up and downscaling filter. I have noticed that using Interpolation makes the video look wonky, but that is very device specific experience, screen refresh rate and gpu power etc.
wow!!
thats great pal, really great. i used your config and then changed it, changed sharpness to 5! though uses more system resources but works great. now i can use my abandoned android box on tv too, it doesnt have battery so no worries about battery drainage.
also found some instructions on net, so complicated for me to read and use it all, but at least learned how to use cfg file.
tnx again
unfortunately, it doesnt work with my Amlogic s905 CPU of Android box. player runs well but commands like sharpen never get to work with any parameter. i tried it again on my Mate9 phone and worked well with KIRIN chip, so about Amlogic, it needs more development.
So far I have not seen any Nougat ROMs including the library meant for aptX support. I tried to manually place the library (libbt-aptx-x86-4.x.x.so, like the one from ARISE), but it doesn't work as my aptX-capable headset is still choosing SBC, implying the actual support of such is more than just a library. As SBC introduces a ~500ms latency, for my use cases (including but not limited to videos and rhythm games) it's completely unacceptable.
On the other hand, is aptX working with stock MM based ROMs? Apparently the device is in the official supported devices list, so I assume that might be the case. But anyway, is it possible to include aptX on recent Nougat ROMs?
Installing ARISE appears to be a no-go for this device as while it includes aptX-related libraries, it doesn't magically enable aptX and instead breaks all sensors.
EDIT: It seems most ROMs still use Bluedroid, and for that it seems the x86 aptX libs alone won't be enough. I did confirm that my headset (EP725) does support aptX on my Pixel C (currently running Oreo, though the aptX Magisk module for Oreo is required for it to actually work).
EDIT 2: A late update... apparently, the latency is not that much different with aptX, and it turned out to be more a problem with Unity than with the bluetooth codec itself after searching for a bit further... so I was wrong about aptX anyway...
Bump on this thread.
I found the libs here which seems to have been taken from stock MM ROM. But obviously just replacing libbluetooth_jni.so from TWRP with that one would only lead to crashes as there's probably some additional work needed (maybe recompile the Bluetooth apk)...
Unfortunately most of that thread is about how to get it working on ARM based smartphones and/or on Oreo (which our phone doesn't have yet, and most likely the Magisk modules and such are as well ARM-only). The post I referenced is the only one that's at least helpful to some extent, after some basic searching.
EDIT: If all isn't going to work then I have no choice but to look for ways to downsample system audio output to 8-11kHz (or maybe 8-bit) to mitigate the latency... since the usage involved is already lossy with low bitrate, I don't think downsampling would cause any unacceptable loss of quality anyway.
EDIT 2: The libs alone definitely aren't enough. Tried replacing the libs in both /system/lib/ and /system/app/Bluetooth/lib/x86/ and it still crashed when opening.
Hey,
I'm currently looking for a smartphone with long battery life and support of HQ sound (LDAC preferred).
I found some ROMs with Android 8.0 and I heard that this version of OS supports LDAC. Does it mean that when I install one of these ROMs, I will be able to use LDAC?
Koprzywa said:
Hey,
I'm currently looking for a smartphone with long battery life and support of HQ sound (LDAC preferred).
I found some ROMs with Android 8.0 and I heard that this version of OS supports LDAC. Does it mean that when I install one of these ROMs, I will be able to use LDAC?
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LDAC is included in AOSP since Oreo so you should be able to use it on every 8+ ROM until someone will remove it from his ROM. It is visible in my codec selection menu on LOS15.1 but I can't test it for you since I'm not in possession of any wireless headphones. I believe that you should look for information and how it works on other phones threads too, not only here. There is possibility that Lineage doesn't support this codec itself since stock haven't supported it but I'm not sure about that since LDAC is part of AOSP unlike AptX for example where your phone needs to be certified to allow developers to include this codec in official builds.
Basically you can add any existing bluetooth audio codec to your phone's ROM. There's not any hardware requirements besides bluetooth so I believe that you should be able to use it.